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The Second Annual Bricky Awards (Part One)

Ethan Miller is a talented enough photographer that he was able to capture one of the ten or so legal punches landed in the Bernard Hopkins - Roy Jones. Jr. rematch.  (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

With the end of the year fast approaching, we'll be seeing a lot of "best of" awards coming out soon, including our very own "best of" awards. I like knowing the best of the year as much as the next guy, but  what about the worst?  For the truly ignominious, I now present to you the second annual "Bricky" awards for the worst in boxing in 2010.

Sven Ottke Award for Worst Robbery of the Year

Winner: Beibut Shumenov SD-12 Gabriel Campillo - As one of the first fights of the year, it's semi-forgotten at this point, especially after Shumenov's domination of Vyacheslav Uzelkov, but that's still a crying shame.  Shumenov throws lots of punches - very hard.  He exerts maximum effort with every single punch he throws.  While he's exciting, there probably isn't a less fluid prominent fighter in the sport today.  Campillo was exactly the opposite, able to use Shumenov's telegraphed punches to his advantage, exhibiting solid slickness, avoiding most of Shumenov's shots, landing tons of effective counterpunches and all around schooling the kid.  One judge, Levi Martinez, got it right with a 117-111 score in favor of Campillo, but the fight really was that wide.  While the 117-111 Shumenov card was easily one of the worst of the year, even respected judge Jerry Roth's card of 115-113 for Shumenov was absurd.

Other nominees:

Devon Alexander UD-12 Andriy Kotelnik - The only thing that keeps this one from winning is that a number of people I respect still managed to score this one for Alexander.  This was the epitome of a hometown decision.  Alexander threw nearly twice as many punches as Kotelnik, but through the entire fight, Kotelnik was the one who landed the hard, effective counters, while very few of Alexander's blows landed clean, and the ones that did had little effect.

Paul Williams TD-4 Kermit Cintron - For three rounds, Paul Williams fought tentatively, landed little and let Kermit Cintron control the ring.  After a mishap described below, the fight went to the cards midway through the fourth.  The only reason there was a decision at all was because of a California state technicality, but the fact that Williams was ahead on two of the cards, including by shutout on one of them, is offensive. So not only did Cintron undeservedly end up with a loss on his record, but the fans were also robbed of what was finally starting to turn into a decent fight.

Jean Marc Mormeck UD-12 Fres Oquendo - Poor Fres just can't catch a break.  A few cards in his career break the other way, and it's possible he could have been viewed as a top 10 contender.  While he very clearly beat Mormeck in France (not long after clearly beating James Toney and getting robbed in that one as well), he also showed he's not quite the fighter he used to be, losing a close (but relatively uncontroversial) decision to Oliver "Methuselah" McCall to close out the year.

Not quite robberies, but close: Marco Huck SD-12 Denis Lebedev; Jean Pascal D-12 Bernard Hopkins; Pablo Cesar Cano SD-12 Oscar Leon; Jorge Arce D-10 Lorenzo Parra; Darren Barker UD-12 Affif Belghecham; Matthew Macklin UD-12 Ruben Varon; Vanes Martirosyan UD-10 Kassim Ouma; Luis Alberto Lazarte D-12 Ulises Solis.

Eugenia Williams Award for Worst Scorecard of the Year

Winner: Daniel Van De Wiele 114-114 draw for Pascal-Hopkins - I personally had this fight scored about as close as any non-judge, non-Quebecois that I've seen.  But how the hell do you get to a 114-114 score in a fight with two knockdowns and at least six crystal clear rounds in Hopkins' favor?  In order to stretch things as far as humanly possible for the hometown fighter, Van De Wiele, whose reputation as a bad judge is as well-deserved as is reputation as a good referee, scored not one but two draw rounds.  No matter how you do the math, that means that he scored at least one clear Hopkins round a draw or for Pascal to arrive at his decision.  While this isn't the most blatant bad card of the year, and it was probably only a few points off from what it should have been, ending up with a card like this calls into question the veracity of his scores as a whole. 

Other nominees:

All of the judges in Alexander-Kotelnik - One card of 116-112 might have possibly been defensible; it still would have been a bad card, but you can make a contrived argument that Alexander won most of the rounds if you score on aggression and forget that the criterion is supposed to be effective aggression.  But all three?  That's just crazy talk.

Venciclav Nikolov 119-110 for Darren Barker vs. Affif Belghecham - If you're coming in as the opponent, sometimes there's the occupational hazard that a judge or two will fill out his scorecards before the fighters ever enter the ring.  While Barker did well in this fight early, he completely gassed out in the second half of the fight while Belghecham used a strong body attack to consistently pound and pressure the European champ.  Most watching the fight scored it as a toss-up, but there was more than one round where Barker was nearly out on his feet due to sheer physical exhaustion.  How any of those rounds could possibly have been scored for Barker is well beyond my pea-brained comprehension. 

Marty Sammon 120-108 for Andre Ward vs. Sakio Bika - This is a big part of the reason why some are starting to call Oakland "West Berlin".  It's great to see a fighter build a legitimate fan base in what is normally not a strong fight city, but managing to get hometown judges and hometown referees, and ending up with clearly erroneous cards, is just going to hurt Ward in the long run.  Even the other two cards of 118-110 were way too wide, but there literally is no way in Hell that Andre Ward won every round of this fight.

Juergen Langos 120-108 for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. vs. John Duddy - Chavez may have clearly won the fight, but the fight was spirited, and there's just no possible way to have scored every round for Chavez when nearly half of the rounds were toss-ups.  The other two scores of 117-111 and 116-112 were much more appropriate.

Patricia Morse Jarman 117-111 for Beibut Shumenov vs. Gabriel Campillo - With a scorecard like that, you almost have to wonder if she just didn't know which fighter was which.

Andrew Golota Award for Foul-Fest of the Year

Winner: Andre Ward UD-12 Sakio Bika - Like last year's winner (Cristobal Cruz vs. Jorge Solis), this one was actually a fun dirty fight, if you can appreciate dirty fights. Both men are known for their dirty tricks, and the referee decided to be very laissez-faire about it, letting both men do their dirty, dirty thing.  Whenever one fighter pulled a dirty trick, the other soon retaliated.  With tons of holding and hitting, rabbit punching, elbows, headbutts and hitting off the break, the referee mostly let the fight go on with its normal flow, choosing not to penalize the fighters.  By the end of the fight, Ward took control, but Bika didn't let it be pretty.

Other nominees:

Gumersindo Carrasco SD-10 Juan Manuel Bonnani - In a dirty, hard-fought all-out brawl, both men resorted to whatever tactics they could use to gain an edge (although Carrasco was certainly the primary offendor).  You had low blows, headbutts, holding and hitting, and just about everything else, all in a pretty blatant and unartful manner.  But the biggest foul, which probably would have resulted in a disqualification anywhere outside of Carrasco's hometown, was when a member of Carrasco's corner actually rolled into the ring under the bottom rope and pulled down Bonnani by his ankles while Bonnani had Carrasco in trouble.  A brawl within a brawl broke out between the two corners.  We'll have more on this one in part two.

Bernard Hopkins UD-12 Roy Jones Jr. - This was probably to be expected, but the geriatric edition of Hopkins-Jones was easily one of the dirtiest, ugliest, most unwatchable fights of the year.  Unlike the version of Hopkins who looked downright spry against Jean Pascal, this version of Hopkins was in pure spoiler mode.  The elbows and headbutts were flying.  For rounds on end, Hopkins would throw one punch and then jump immediately into a clinch.  Three separate times, Hopkins took time after low blows, and it was pretty darn obvious that at least one of them was completely faked so he could catch some wind.  Hopefully this is the last time I ever need to mention this farce of a fight.

Brandon Rios DQ-9 Anthony Peterson - Okay, so the fouls were all on one side of the equation, but I can't ever remember seeing so many blatant low blows in one fight before.  Fortunately, as it turns out, the world is probably better off if Rios can't reproduce anyway.

Alfredo Garcia Perez Award for Worst Refereeing of the Year

Winner: Arthur Mercante Jr. in Miguel Cotto vs. Yuri Foreman - There's been a fair measure of debate around these parts as to how big of a role the referee should take in protecting the health of the fighters in the ring.  What's undisputed is that the referee at least plays a small part in making that determination (and at worst makes the decision on whether to honor the corner's wishes), and that Mercante completely abdicated those responsibilities in this fight.  In the seventh round, Foreman blew out his knee.  It was clear to anyone that his knee had blown out, and he was just taking tons of punishment from Cotto.  Foreman's corner threw in the towel - Mercante threw it back.  Foreman's corner jumped on the ring apron - Mercante refused to disqualify the fighter.  Instead, the fight went on for two more rounds while Foreman took a completely unnecessary beating, simply because Mercante didn't have the common sense to end the fight.

Other nominees:

Joe Cortez in Amir Khan vs. Marcos Maidana - Only a few days after getting inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame, Cortez once again proved why his best days are long past him.  In the most over-refereed fight of the year, Cortez consistently broke the fighters up, issued warnings and just generally made himself the opposite of invisible, all of which could be viewed as being to the advantage of the house fighter.  In a move that's somewhat understandable but should be well below a venerable referee like Cortez, he deducted a point from Maidana (without a warning) when Maidana threw his elbow back, (probably inadvertently) hitting Cortez during one of his many undue breaks of the fighters.  It didn't end up being the deciding factor, but Maidana would have won on one of the cards without the seemingly unnecessary deduction.

Robert Howard in Abner Mares vs. Vic Darchinyan - This one was almost equally over-refereed to Khan-Maidana, while taking place on the same night, but is slightly less offensive because (a) Howard isn't actually supposed to be one of the top referees in the world and (b) Howard's actions probably favored the fighter who ended up losing the fight.  Howard made his presence known to both the fighters and the fans, marring what was otherwise one of the best fights of the year.  To top it off, Howard made a bad point deduction for a very borderline low blow on a punch where Mares was being pulled down anyway.  In a way, Howard might have made the fight better, because it made it seem like the cards were even further stacked against Mares, who managed to pull off the well-deserved come from behind victory.

Michael Griffin in Bernard Hopkins vs. Jean Pascal - To be fair, Griffin mostly did a fine job refereeing a fight that was uncharacteristically clean for a Bernard Hopkins fight.  But special attention deserves to be paid when a bad call by the referee directly leads to one fighter being robbed of a win.  In the first round, Bernard Hopkins was knocked down at the end of a round he was otherwise winning on what can only be described as an extremely blatant rabbit punch.  This isn't a situation that should have been a judgment call - Hopkins wasn't ducking below the belt, he wasn't pulling Pascal down, and it wasn't a split-second, inadvertant decision.  Hopkins was off balance from a punch, and Pascal threw a downward right hand to the back of the head that sent Hopkins to the mat.  Even in real time, it's not a call that the referee should have missed, and it's all that more unfortunate when the bad call changes the outcome of the fight.

More to come in the next few days....

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I know no one reads the fanshots

But Dafs actually posted the scorecard from Hopkins-Pascal and you can see the strangeness of the card. So only one of the KD rounds is 10-8 and one of the final rounds of the fight is a 10-10 round. The card is awful especially compared to the other two ref. It makes you question what fight he was watching.

"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
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by Waldo Rastel on Dec 22, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

I did read it, thought that card was incomprehensible.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 22, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

just read it only now...

its a strange one, but there have been worse cards this year and there will be worse in the future….

I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)

by BrianBrock on Dec 22, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

BB, Off the subject, but if you live in the U.K, how is it that you like all those U.S. teams on

your profile—unless maybe you are FROM the U.S?

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

The second part awards will include

- worst ring walk
- worst fight strategy
- ugliest in-ring incident
- ugliest out-of-ring incident

Unfortunately, I had to retire the bad hair category for this year, as it was pretty much all repeat offenders.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 22, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Worst ring walk

Two good examples of that from last week. Also WTF Germans! Why do you love the Scorpions so much? More confusing than Hasselhoff!

"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi

by Waldo Rastel on Dec 22, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

There's a clear winner of this year's award in my mind

But I’ll need to write it from home so I can hopefully find video

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by Brickhaus on Dec 22, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

the scorpions rule. listen to sails of charon, and get ready to get your face ripped off

I hate the Texans

by battle axe of doom on Dec 22, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

At least it's not Nena, I suppose

Needs more Die Toten Hosen

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by Brickhaus on Dec 22, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The Scorpions are German. So at least that makes a little bit of sense.

by cyke on Dec 22, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I can squat more when Winds of Change is playing at my gym

It’s scientific fact, man: The Scorpions make you a better person.

by Tedd Welch on Dec 23, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Listening to Scorpions makes me squat in a different way

But to each his own.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 23, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha!!

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Dec 23, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Mercante as worst ref of the year

Hear fucking hear.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Dec 22, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

was awful.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 22, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Really enjoyed that.

Barker-Belgecham was a joke. Barker was literally doing nothing for the second half of the fight. Travesty of a scorecard. It was so clear that Belgecham won the last 5 or 6 rounds of the fight, you didn’t need sight to score it.

As for bad referees, the fella who refereed the Haye-Ruiz fight was abysmal. I remember him giving Ruiz a count for a blatant rabbit punch KD, before then deducting points from Haye, before THEN not giving Ruiz the full five minutes to recover. Ridiculous.

Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.

by Oli Goldstein on Dec 22, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

Very good list Brick. I agree with all your top picks and I’m glad to see I’m not the only one appalled at some of these things. I was especially pleased to see Arthur Mercante Jr in the Worst Ref Job of the year…that was a ridiculous performance. Also glad to see Alexander/Kotelnik in the nominations for robbery of the year.

Fire Steve Addazio
I will not buy any PPV promoted by Bob Arum.

by Apprentice on Dec 22, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

If I have the time to edit

I probably should have included Martirosyan-Ouma in the “almost robberies” category.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 22, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

Big

+1 on Cintron/Williams

and another on Ward/Bika—a fight that I liked and was glad I wasn’t in

by Don From Prov on Dec 22, 2010 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

ah yes, Cintron/Williams definitely deserved to be there as well… I would like to see a rematch and hope that Cintron has undergone intensive psychotherapy so he can finally fight without any sort of weird roadblock

Fire Steve Addazio
I will not buy any PPV promoted by Bob Arum.

by Apprentice on Dec 22, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The Mercante thing is tough. He is not a good ref, and the apple has fallen very far from the tree, but I for one think that there’s been a bit too much negative focus on the Cotto-Foreman fight. Foreman was not getting mauled in there or taking tremendous punishment… he just couldn’t stay on his feet. From the looks of it, it was really his career that was in danger, not his life. That knee just wouldn’t hold, and he didn’t go down on a punch except for the last time, which was a glancing blow (which Mercante used as a good excuse to step in).

Also, there was a misunderstanding of the rules that was driving a lot of the criticism. At the time, I heard a lot of people talking about how the towel automatically ends the fight. Not true. Jumping up on the apron doesn’t automatically end the fight either. Nothing automatically ends a fight. Only the ref, the doc, the fighter or the commission can stop a fight in progress.

I’m not saying it was the best decision to go with the fighter’s wishes and let him fight on, but I don’t think it was as terrible as some think or that it was some life-or-death moment. I’ve seen fighter’s fight on with one arm, one leg, etc. Foreman was still trying to win up until the time it was stopped.

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by jrok on Dec 22, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Serious question, jrok

would you, in the position that he was in, and having had the towel thrown in, have thrown the towel back?

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Dec 22, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

In some fairness to Mercante

Foreman could have retired between rounds, and he didn’t. But I have an issue with him not taking the corner’s suggestion to stop the fight when he was clearly defenseless at that point.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 23, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Mercante is incompetent, plain and simple. People are farid to say that vecuase of who his

father was. But that’s crap. Mercante has been responsible for some truly terrible stuff. Check out this little known one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vTjLYdTv3E&feature=related

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 24, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

afraid

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 24, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

He Must Be Getting Employment Somewhere,

but I haven’t seen him referee a fight since Cotto/Foreman. Nor do I expect to see him soon, if ever again;
we aren’t the only ones who noticed.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 24, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

tHE VERY WORSE OF THE CURRENT WORSE

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

My issue with Mercante was not his refereeing, it was his 'coaching'

Imploring an injured fighter, albeit a game one, to keep fighting because, as he said, “I don’t want to see you go out like that” is not his job. He is paid to protect the fighters from themselves.

by pakinpower on Dec 23, 2010 4:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The so called rabbit punch

I really don’t see how anyone can call the punch that dropped Hopkins in round one of their fight “an extremely blatant rabbit punch” when firstly Pascal threw the punch as a counter shot during an exchange. It wasn’t like they were tied up and he thought “I’ll just cheap shot him here” and punched him in the back of the head. It was a split second reaction so how can it be blatant?
And secondly when you pause the footage on the point of impact, it’s clear that the majority of the impact of the shot lands on the ear which is a fair shot. Also when you pause it you can also clearly see the back of Hopkins head when the supposed rabbit punch is landed and at no point is the part of the head where it is illegal to punch even blocked by Pascals gloves on the footage.
I really don’t see how anyone can call foul on that punch. It certainly wasn’t blatant and it’s stretching it in my opinion to even call it a rabbit punch. It was a well timed counter punch to the point just behind the ear which is a legal shot. I believe Hopkins won the fight but that was a fair knockdown and it certainly most definitely wasn’t a “blatant rabbit punch.” I did a screenshot and posted it on my profile, if someone can provide me with a better screen shot that begs to differ I’ll gladly look at it but I just don’t see it, thats a legal shot.

by notclements on Dec 23, 2010 5:58 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed completely about the so-called rabbit punch.

As much as I respect you, Brick and love your boxing commentary, I really have no clue where you’re coming from here about this being such a blatant rabbit punch. I thought it was marginal at best. “notclements” is right.

I think Hopkins even gets into the fan’s heads sometimes. He sells his B.S. to the best of us.

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by Matt Miller on Dec 26, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

No Laurence Cole?

How could you not include Laurence Cole as one of the worst refs of 2010? His incompetence in the Antonio Margarito-Manny Pacquiao fight was galling and evident for the entire world to see.

From the two-fingered eye test for Margarito to his willingness to let Margarito take so much punishment without stopping the fight, Cole proved that he is the ultimate member of the Lucky Sperm Club among boxing officials. If it wasn’t for his father being the head of the Texas commission, Cole wouldn’t even receive jobs officiating club fights.

by pk500 on Dec 23, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't think he did a bad job in Pacquiao-Margarito

I thought he missed a couple of knockdowns in Abraham-Dirrell, but he got the big call right there. Considering Cole usually draws a lot of my ire, I decided to lay off of him this year when I saw quite a few of what I consider to be worse performances.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 23, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Mercante Jr. has been in far more "bad fights" than Cole.

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 24, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think Mercante has ever done anything as bad as Marquez-Jaca

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by Brickhaus on Dec 24, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm no expert on referees,

but Cole REALLY fucked that up. That was disgusting.

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Dec 24, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You are kiddin, right? I mean Scotalnd-Jones cost Scotalnd his life. Hurado was almost killed by

Whittaker. Bennett almost killed that guy cited above. Foreman-Cotto was just plain grim. Cole in the JJM -Jaca thing did afine jobrefing, but did a terrible job when he opened his mouth. But Cole, for all his shortcomings, is light years better than Mercante.

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Meant for Brick.

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Typos. Eyes are bad today.

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Hurtado

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

My ignorance may be hanging out a mile, but I don’t believe I’ve heard of any ring deaths/permanent injuries associated with Cole that could have been prevented, at least. I think one kid died, but Cole had stopped the fight earlier even than some would have.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 26, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 27, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Foreman’s corner threw in the towel – Mercante threw it back.

WTF!? Is that even a legal thing to do – or was the ref thinking himself to be above all and any rules?

Then again, we’ve seen a ref admonish a fighter for punching, so I guess anything’s possible…

I don't know much - but I know that I don't.

by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 26, 2010 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

According the New York State rules they were fighting under, the corner technically didn't have the right to throw in the towel.

The ref, the ring doctor, the boxer, and the commission were the only ones who could have stopped it legally. This was a case where the actions of the boxer and his corner were distinctly at odds, and Mercante for whatever reason let it go on. I think the legitimate beef with Mercante’s decision wasn’t so much with whether or not he had the right to ignore the towel (there are good reasons for a ref to not want to use the towel as a signal—fans can throw them for one)—but rather, that he couldn’t see what was so clearly going on: Krusher’s leg was fucked, and Mercante was either incompetent or corrupt in ignoring it.

That and his personal advice and peformance evaluations to Foreman in the ring were crazy unprofessional.

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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Dec 26, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

He should remain un-intrusive. He always has been overly intrusive, both verbally and physically

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r1m9Xv4btY

“Additionally the NYSAC allows him to actually tell the boxer how to fight, move this way, go that way? Are you kidding? That is on tape on You Tube, when I first saw it I could not believe it, yet NYSAC lets him work again.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flNIBHxI6vE

“His reward for a legacy of death and injury is for the NYSAC to give him more work? They appointed him to two more fights after the mess he made in Yankee Stadium. It bordered on megalomaniac lunacy according to every respected boxing writer. "

They certainly have the films of Whitiker v Hurtado,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTsWKpjinco

Cotto v Foreman,

Jones v Scotland,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96UK4vBb_s

Michael Bennett v Andrew Hutchinson, which has to be seen to be believed,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vTjL…eature=related

all the way back to Ruddock v Dokes,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehFuWEkI-Q,

Murray v Green,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fVHQAWh-r0

Lewis v Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpdGF… 1351&index=30

it goes on and on and they do nothing?

I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

by Kid Blast on Dec 26, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

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