Rumored fights - Katsidis-Guzman, Andrade-Diaconu and Bradley-Valero
by Brickhaus on Feb 10, 2010 11:44 AM EST
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Just to keep the palates whetted, here are a few rumored bouts floating around...
- Michael Katsidis still has his fight date, despite the withdrawal of Robert Guerrero as his opponent. There are a couple of rumors out there, but the stronger one at the moment seems to be that Joan Guzman may jump in as his opponent. Guzman was last seen getting outclassed by Ali Funeka, but because he officially came out of the fight with a draw, he's still eligible for a title bout. The other rumor is a Juan Diaz rematch, as Katsidis and Diaz have had some trash talk flying back and forth. However, it seems like logistical issues may prevent that from happening in late March, although I wouldn't be surprised if we see that fight eventually. The two fighters have trended in opposite directions since they first fought, and Katsidis came in to the fight with one of the worst game plans I've ever seen.
- In what could be a very exciting crossroads fight, Librado Andrade and Adrian Diaconu are discussing a bout at light heavyweight in Montreal. This would pit two guys who both like to apply pressure and move forward against each other. It makes sense for Andrade as well, as he probably has about as much of a fan base in Montreal (where he trains, and where he's fought three times) as he does anywhere else. A win over Diaconu may put Andrade in line to face Jean Pascal, while a win over Andrade by Diaconu would get him right back in the light heavyweight mix.
- In a battle of regional attractions, it seems that NYC favorite John Duddy may be facing NoVa favorite Jimmy Lange in May. Both guys are a step below world class, but make exciting fights. For this one to have any possibility of happening, both fighters would need to get past opponents in March, including Duddy's fight against 23-1 Michael Medina on the Pacquiao-Clottey undercard.
- It's been thrown around on here a couple times before already, but rumor has it that Gary Shaw and Bob Arum are discussing a Timothy Bradley-Edwin Valero matchup. As explosive as that sounds on paper, this sounds like a publicity ploy to me. It's not in Bob Arum's nature to schedule someone for a dangerous fight against someone without a ton of name recognition if that other fighter isn't also a Top Rank fighter. I realize Valero is probably still chasing Manny Pacquiao, but if he wants to move up to 140, a fight against recent Top Rank signee Kendall Holt makes a lot more sense to me.
- OK, so not a rumored bout, but rumor is that Wladimir Klitschko and Hayden Panettiere might be talking marriage. This is probably just tabloid speculation, but feel free to slag away in the comments. Also amusing is how the picture in the link actually cuts off half of Wlad's head, since Hayden is so short.
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about Bradley v Valero.No way does Arum throw Valero in with the current top dog in his first fight at 140.There are many other options when all he wants is a win over a name guy to push for a fight with Pacquaio.
I’m not sure i agree that Guzman was outclassed by Funeka.He obviously lost that fight though i think only by about 7-5,maybe 8-4 in rounds ( i expect many will disagree with my score).To me,‘outclassed’ is pretty much a shut-out where you hardly win a round.
I realise i’m being a bit petty here over the wording of your article,Brickhaus:).
I think the cuts he suffered early on in the fight really affected him.
Katsidis v Guzman appeals to me more than Katsidis v Guerrero.Mainly because they are both genuine lightweights.
Sort of, I guess
Guzman started his career at 122, and best I can tell he’s had to move up due to his own bad habit of ballooning in weight between fights as much as anything. It would be nice to see him fight more than once a year, either way.
The other name being thrown around now is Brandon Rios.
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I know Guzman has only fought twice at the weight and maybe calling him a ‘geniune’ lightweight was over selling him a bit,but Guerrero has only moved up to 130lbs not that long ago so i would say Guzman is definitely more of a lightweight than Guerrero is,even though he is shorter.
I also think Guzman v Katsidis would be better fight and i’m not a big fan of Guerrero,or Katsidis for that matter.Guzman being involved would def make it more interesting for me.
Boxer v Brawler.
Mitchell is fighting on Feb 13th.
On the (now sadly decimated) Night of Champions card that myself and bazzlad are going to. (BrianBrock is meeting us there too, I think….happy days)
Was supposed to be Chisora/Skelton, Williams/Sexton, Kell Brook, Degale, Mitchell, Billy-Joe Saunders…. I think I’ve missed some. Ah yes, Gavin fighting a shlub.
Anyhow, now it’s Chisora vs Carl Baker (the fat guy that beat Williams in the heavyweight Prizefighter), Cleverly’s European title shot vs Brancalion, Degale, Gavin, Mitchell… No Kell Brook, no Skelton, no Sexton, no Saunders, no Williams.
That said, it’ll still be a good crack, and if I figure out why my posts from my mobile never appear on the site, I’ll try to do a RBR from Wembley. With all due respect, I love you guys, but I’m not taking my laptop to Wembley Arena… :)
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
Any rumors on what's next for Mitchell should he win Saturday?
"We've come a long way, and I'm not talking about Virginia Slims, either." - Art Howe
I don’t honestly know. Mitchell is one of the fighters that completely slipped under my radar until really recently.
Bazzlad might be your man for that, he keeps track of the domestic fighters better than I do.
That said, I remember vaguely hearing something about Mitchell stepping up to 140, maybe to fight Khan? Or someone else? I might have that completely wrong, but I think I heard that, or read it, or something. I’m not even sure if he’s the sort that could move up, I really don’t know much about him at all.
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
I'd like to see Bradley fight Maidana, since Khan hasn't got the bottle.
It’d be interesting to see how Maidana fares with a fast, slick boxer rather than the brawlers he ususally dispatches in quick-time. Then we’d really have a gauge on how Khan would get on against him.
However, every time I think about Khan fighting Maidana, I think about a boxing program from a few years ago, where they did an interview with Enzo Maccarinelli. Enzo ended the interview by saying something like, “I want Mormeck, and then I’ll destry O’Neil Bell… they’ve never felt anything like my power.”
As soon as the closed the line to Enzo, one of the guys (trying desperately to think who it was, maybe Jim Watt?) says, “He don’t want no O’Neil Bell. He definitely doesn’t want to go anywhere near O’Neil Bell. Trust me, he don’t want no O’Neil Bell…” just like that. It seemed a really funny way to say it, which is why it stuck in my head. To clarify, he wasn’t saying Enzo was lying, he was simply expressing the belief that Enzo could not have dealt with Bell, in no way, shape or form.
That said, I feel the same way now about Khan. Every time I hear him, or anyone else say, that he wants to fight Marcos Maidana, I feel like looking him in the eye and saying to him, “Trust me, you don’t want no Marcos Maidana. Even if you think you do, really, you really, really don’t want that.”
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
Also, I think Andrade flattens Diaconu.
Probably around the 8th.
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
Guzman was last seen getting outclassed by Ali Funeka, but because he officially came out of the fight with a draw, he’s still eligible for a title bout.
horrible misrepresentation of the fight. watch the first 3 rounds, if anyone was getting outclassed it was funeka. Guzman conditioning is the only thing that cost him the fight….er draw.
funeka btw is looking for a new opponent as reyes dropped out. hbo is talking rematch with guzman now.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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I gave Guzman the first 3 rounds in that fight.Then i thought he came on again in the middle rounds,taking 6 and 7.
The HBO crew were ridiculously biased in favour of Funeka,imo.
I think the thing was that the Guzman rounds were all close, and the Funeka rounds were clear Funeka rounds.
From memory, I think I had it a draw. But I missed a couple of rounds, and relied on SC’s RBR scores to make up my card.
If anything, strangely, I thought it looked like Funeka outclassed Guzman, but I think if my card went either way, it would have been 115-113 Guzman. Weird. I’ll have to look up the thread.
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
they are talking rematch now. if it materializes, id pick guzman. he just needs a good training camp.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on Feb 10, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
IF
it happened, Bradley/Valero would, IMO, make a great match-up.
I think you meant to say a win by Andrade would put him back into the Super Middleweight mix.
Why would anyone let Valero anywhere near Timothy Bradley? That fight is about as wrong a fight as he could possibly take. Bradley is too quick, with too much handspeed and slickness for Valero to handle right now.
No
He’s moving up to light heavyweight permanently. His ring weight for the Bute fight was like 185 or something ridiculous. I doubt he can make 168 anymore, and draining probably contributed to why he’s been more dentable lately.
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But also
I said a win by Andrade lines him up for Pascal, and a win for Diaconu puts him in the LHW mix.
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What exactly were you pointing out when you said...
…one of the worst gameplans you’ve ever seen (by Katsidis)? =)
I remembered thinking his corner was awful that night
Instead of trying to take advantage of the fact that he was the bigger, stronger man, they were trying to have him outbox Diaz from the outside, which allowed Diaz to keep winning rounds. On top of that, his corner kept telling him what a great job he was doing, after he’s losing round after round. I know it was a SD, but the card for Katsidis was a really bad card. If Katsidis drags Diaz into a dogfight, he has a much better chance of winning.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
the trainer’s tirade in the post-fight interview was awful. hate that guy just for that
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Feb 10, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
They told Katsidis to box. And insisted he was easily winning a fight that everyone on earth knew he was losing. Katsidis can’t box. Juan Diaz — who is no speed merchant — makes Katsidis look slow. I think I had it 118-110 for Diaz. The official card for Katsidis in that fight was among the worst in the last few years.
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