Bad Left Hook Best of the Decade - Fighter of the Decade
by Brickhaus on Feb 15, 2010 9:41 AM EST
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Now that 2009 has wrapped up, we can take a look at the best of the decade that just was. Here's the final poll, for fighter of the decade. I'm not going to count obvious ballot stuffing when I tally these up.
Ivan Calderon - Calderon went 33-0-1 in the decade, winning titles in two weight classes and going 17-0-1 in title fights. Bad Left Hook readers voted him the best fighter of two different weight classes this decade. Key wins include a pair of wins over Hugo Cazares, Nelson Dieppa, Juan Esquer, Isaac Bustos, Daiel Reyes, Roberto Leyva, Edgar Cardenas, Alex Sanchez, and Eduardo Ray Marquez. While he never ended up facing several of the other major names in his weight classes, he did go 10-0-1 against former, current and future titlists during the decade.
Joe Calzaghe - Calzaghe went 19-0 in the decade, all in title fights, winning the Ring Championship in two weight classes. Key victories include Bernard Hopkins, Mikkel Kessler, Jeff Lacy, Sakio Bika, Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, and a very, very old version of Roy Jones Jr. For the first half of the decade, it appeared that he avoided challenges, but near the end, he went on to unify with Lacy and Kessler, taking all four super middleweight belts (although not at the same time due to sanctioning body politics), and then moved up to closely beat Hopkins at light heavyweight.
Miguel Cotto - Cotto went 34-2 during the decade, winning belts in two different weight classes and going 14-2 in title fights. While his record isn't spotless, he took all comers, facing fighters who were ranked in the Ring top 10 in 14 of his last 16 fights, and going 12-2 against past, future and current titlists. Key wins include Shane Mosley, Joshua Clottey, Paulie Malignaggi, Zab Judah, Carlos Quintana, Ricardo Torres, Randall Bailey, DeMarcus Corley, Lovemore N'Dou and Muhammad Abdullaev. The losses came to Antonio Margarito in a fight shrouded by controversy, and to Manny Pacquiao, then the number 1 pound for pound fighter in the world.
Bernard Hopkins - Despite the 2000's being Hopkins' third decade in the professional ring, he managed to go 14-3, owning the Ring title in two different weight classes and becoming the undisputed middleweight champion. Key wins include Felix Trinidad, Oscar de la Hoya, Antonio Tarver, Kelly Pavlik, Winky Wright, William Joppy, Keith Holmes and Carl Daniels. All three losses were close, with Jermain Taylor controversially beating Hopkins twice to claim the middleweight championship, and with Joe Calzaghe taking a close win over Hopkins at light heavyweight.
Juan Manuel Marquez - Marquez went 20-3-1 in the decade, claiming belts in three different weight classes and spending much of the decade near the top of the pound for pound lists. Key victories include Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Marco Antonio Barrera, Rocky Juarez, Derrick Gainer, Robbie Peden, Orlando Salido and Manuel Medina. However, what has created much of his legacy were his bouts with Manny Pacquiao, where he officially went 0-1-1, but in which many thought he deserved the nod in one or both of the fights. In addition, he suffered a close loss at the hands of Chris John, as well as a blowout loss to Floyd Mayweather in a fight that was two weight classes higher than where Marquez had ever fought before.
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. - Mayweather went 18-0 in the decade, owning a title in five different weight classes and being lineal champion in three. Key victories include Jose Luis Castillo (twice), Diego Corrales, Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, DeMarcus Corley and Arturo Gatti. If there's a criticism of Mayweather, it's that he hasn't faced the top competition in recent weight classes, although he's helping to quell that criticism with a forthcoming fight against Shane Mosley.
Manny Pacquiao - Pacquiao went 23-1-2 in the decade, owning a title in six different weight classes and being lineal champion in three of them. Key victories include Miguel Cotto, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Erik Morales (twice), Marco Antonio Barrera (twice), Lehlohnolo Ledabwa, Oscar de la Hoya, Oscar Larios and David Diaz. The loss came to Erik Morales (who he later beat twice) and the draws came against Marquez (who he later beat) and Agapito Sanchez. While he's been as great of a weight jumper as we've seen in recent times, the two primary criticisms of him are that he's never really cleared out a single weight class, and that many of his best wins came over fighters who were past prime.
Others deserving of a shout out for one reason or another: Ricky Hatton, Shane Mosley, Roy Jones Jr., Chad Dawson, Vic Darchinyan, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Kostya Tszyu, Oscar de la Hoya, Arturo Gatti, Micky Ward, Wladimir Klitschko, Tomasz Adamek, David Haye, Jose Luis Castillo, Winky Wright, Fernando Montiel, Antonio Margarito, Jermain Taylor, Israel Vazquez, Rafael Marquez
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I’m a big Pacquiao fan and voted for him here but i think you make some good points that ‘many of his best wins came against fighters who were past prime’ and ’he’s never really cleared out a weight class.’
Marquez,Barrera and Morales were the best in their divisions (or close to) when he fought them though,were they not?And Cotto was still highly ranked.
I think Morales,Oscar and Barrera were slightly past their prime when he fought them and Hatton definitely was.
It’s hard for me to say if Cotto was.
For what it’s worth i still think he beats them all at their peak,maybe not Oscar.
You guys still doing this best of stuff? Is this the last one because it seems like I’ve read this before?
Every fighter has a game plan until he get's punched in the mouth.
-Mike
This is the last one
I’ll do a roundup post eventually, and no, this isn’t a repeat.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I love me some Joe Calzaghe, obviously, so it was a wrench to go with Pac but he probably deserves it, dammit…
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
You're a bit unwell with your man-crush on Joe....
What happened to you the other day? I tried calling you but couldn’t get through after the event?
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
will msg fb dude
and will convert you to Chunky too, once he tones down that ring entrance…lol
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
You'll have a job.
Although he was really good the other night.
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
I almost fell off my chair as that came through....lol
you referred to him as ‘really good’?! ;)
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
I can revise that comment if you'd prefer? :)
He was good the other night. Credit where it’s due.
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
I agree
the only thing I hold against him is he never fought Chad Dawson. I can see why he didnt, but then eh would have cleared out two divisions.
I think if he’d managed to leave Wales 5 years earlier, and had wins over Hopkins at RJJ at that time, then yes. I love me some Joe as much as anyone and more than most, but I can’t see his record overall justifying him being Fighter of the Decade, IMHO.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
by BrianBrock on Feb 16, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes regarding RJJ, no doubt.
But for Hopkins, I’m not certain that 2008 Hop was any worse than 2003 Hop. He became a different fighter (as did Calzaghe) during the interim, so maybe the style matchup came to favor Calzaghe more in 2008 than it had in 2003. But I don’t think I can say that the quality of the pelt, in and of itself, went down much in those five years, if it went down at all.
sorry Option27
the below was a reply to you, having comp issues/forgot to preview (delete as appropriate)
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
there's always Pac ballot stuffing....
to be fair its not been just the last 4 years, really, although it being as stellar as it has been is going to influence people somewhat. I thought it was close, but then I was trying to justify to mayself making it Calzaghe :)
I just thought about something truly mind boggling….does the fact Pac’s so far clear mean that his fans on here are that much more fervent and devout than PBF’s? Is that even possible?! Truly a mind boggling concept :))
Or maybe they’re more childish :) Or more numerous, but just quieter when debates get going. Intriguing….
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Manny??? Seriously??
You have to go with Bernard Hopkins for fighter of the decade. How do you give Manny fighter of the decade for what his last few victories? Especially with his catch weight tactics.
A drained and old looking Oscar, a over rated already exposed Ricky Hatton and a product of the Top Rank hype machine Miguel Cotto? Shane Mosley should have fought Pac Man that night not Cotto.
Bhop beat a PRIME Felix Trinidad when he was feared by all. A De La Hoya that was still in very good shape. At the old age of 40 and above Hopkins has managed to beat Taylor Twice (yes I said it), Tarver, Winky Wright, Pavlik and gave Joe Calzaghe a close fight. Come on People. What are you thinking?!!!
I personally think any Tito over 154 was past prime
But point taken. I personally have Hopkins #3, but I thought he went 0-1-1 against Taylor. I do think Hopkins had the best first half of the decade, edging out Mayweather in that regard, but Pac wasn’t too shabby even back then either.
We’re getting higher vote volume than usual, but the Floyd to Pac ratio has stayed 1:3 since the minute I posted it, which makes me think that Pacland hasn’t found the poll yet to start stuffing it.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
a product of the Top Rank hype machine Miguel Cotto
Argh! He beat Shane Mosley! That’s not hype that’s quality!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
And the winner is.....Nobody....
Come on man. Did you see the same DRAW that I watched??
Gifted fighter
He also got a gift against Clottey…..
A draw against a boxer as good as Shane Mosley
Is still very respectable, even a close loss would have been far beyond the capabilities of a fighter who is simply all hype and no substance.
I scored the Clottey fight 115-113 for Clottey but it certainly wasn’t a gift decision as a convincing argument can be made for either fighter as the victor. In addition to this, the massive cut Cotto had to overcome make that fight rather impressive in my eyes.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Which round did you score even in Cotto-Clottey?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I can't recall
I would also be right in thinking that a fight can be scored 115-113 without a tied round. I may be wrong as it is early (for me!) and I am yet to have the second dose of coffee!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 16, 2010 4:11 AM EST up reply actions
Unless you scored the KD round 10-9
I think you have to have a 10-10 round somewhere to score that fight 115-113.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I may have done
I do that quite often.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 16, 2010 7:09 AM EST up reply actions
Ridiculous.
You can believe that Clottey won a close decision, but to call it a “gift” is absolutely ridiculous. Clottey got knocked down in the first, and had 4 other rounds (4, 6, 11, 12) where he did essentially zero work.
If you give Clottey every single other round in the fight, he would have won by a point. By compubox stats, Cotto landed more in rounds 3 and 10, though. I actually scored round 10 (the closest round of the fight, IMO) for Josh, but Round 3 for Cotto giving him a 114-113 win.
For it to be a “gift” decision, you have to believe that there was no possible way to score either round 3 or 10 for Cotto, and that is simply divorced from reality.
There were 3 defensible cards in that fight: In order of defensibility:
1) 114-113 Cotto (R3 for Cotto, R10 for Clottey)
2) 115-112 Cotto (R3 and R10 for Cotto)
3) 114-113 Clottey (R3 and R10 for Clottey)
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
It wasn't a draw.
It was a Cotto victory. If you saw it as a draw, certainly you would concede that someone, somewhere might have seen one round differently than you did. I scored it 115-113 for Cotto.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I'm not sure that this is addressed to me
As it can be hard to tell who is replying to who sometimes but in case, if it was; I know the fight wasn’t a draw I was speaking hypothetically.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 16, 2010 4:14 AM EST up reply actions
Not addressed to you.
You seem like a reasonable fellow. This comment was addressed to Lefferts01, who scored the fight a draw, but can’t fathom that somebody might have disagreed with him on one round.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Hehe I think he is...unshakable
Euphamisms are fun.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 16, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
You have to go with Bernard Hopkins for fighter of the decade. How do you give Manny fighter of the decade for what his last few victories? Especially with his catch weight tactics.
Hopkins fought Pavlik and Wright at catchweights
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by Scott Christ on Feb 16, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree on a weight not make a fighter starve down to one....
Ok big difference here…. Cotto naturally fights at 147. Had to make 145. Hatton is a fat bitch that should have stayed at 147 although he looked like shit at 147 I honestly think he was over rated and over hyped his entire career. I cant say too much about that weight as he naturally fought at 140. Oscar had to make 145…Hmm a Jr middleweight for the last what 8 years? Come on…Bernard had moved up to Light Heavy and gave Pavlik a gift of actually not forcing him to make 175 he only had to make 170 which is 2 pounds over super middle. Winky was in the same boat he had been fighting a little over jr middle for a few fights. He wanted Hopkins and he didnt want to make 175 so 170 was agreed on. Hopkins had been fighting around Light heavy since the Tarver fight. He had said he should and could have been fighting at light heavy for a while late in his career.
I honestly think he was over rated and over hyped his entire career.
Over rated and over hyped as what? I thought of him as very good, but crucially reliant on his ability to smother his opponent with his strength. I don’t remember any level headed fans or analysts thinking much more of him. It’s also important to remember that he handed out as much of a beating, if not more of one, to Malignaggi, as Cotto did.
Of course you think Cotto is all hype too for some reason or other!
The great fighters (Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hopkins) beat the very good and good ones (Hatton, Cotto, Pavlik, Judah); it’s what makes them great!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 17, 2010 4:37 AM EST up reply actions
‘fat bitch’ is harsh…and over-rated and over hyped when the only two people to beat him are two of the best fighters of the decade, if not the last 20 years?
And I’m not sure about Hopkins giving Pavlik a ‘gift’. He mainly fights at 160 and he had a tougher time with Taylor at 164. He actually came up 10lbs from his previous fight with Lockett to fight Hopkins, and duly went back to 160 after it. Hopkins came down 3lbs from the Calzaghe fight and fought at 170 for Winky prior, so he conceded very little/nothing at all in weight terms.for Pavlik.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Throw out de la Hoya, Hatton and even Cotto
Those were very entertaining high-profile victories over two guys definitely past their primes and one guy who might have been past his prime.
Toss those victories and you’re still left with Barrera, Morales, and Marquez.. Those are the fights that I emphasize when I cast my ballot for Pacquiao. They were three were bad ass, 10 ten p4p fighters when they fought Pacquaio. To be fair, Morales started to decline after the Raheem fight and Marquez wasn’t on everybody’s p4p list before he fought Pacquiao the first time, but it’s not like there was a line to fight him. Pacquiao did suffer a loss and a draw, but that’s no shame against those guys, especially in light of the fact he avenged them.
To be fair to Manny,Oscar,Hatton and Cotto were all naturally the bigger men though.
To ask Manny to fight a peak,welterweight DLH would have probably been too much to ask.
I don’t totally disagree with you, but I’m beginning to move away from the “naturally bigger” argument. I think it was Nazim Richardson who said that Pacquiao’s greatest achievement was convincing the world he is a small fighter. I tend to agree with those who say Pacquiao’s natural weight is junior welter or welter.
I’m not saying that de la Hoya, Hatton and Cotto aren’t naturally bigger and beating them the way Pacquiao did isn’t impressive, just that the weight disparity is a bit overrated.
by AsianSensation on Feb 16, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I tend to agree with those who say Pacquiao’s natural weight is junior welter or welter.
it’s hard to say really but I do know that it’s not welter. He was being fed huge amounts to make 145 so while he may well be very effective there he is not natrually comfortable at that weight. I reckon 135 to 140 is more his thing.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 16, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know that I agree with that
Look at Manny’s legs. They’re way bigger than just about any other fighter out there. The fact that he’s able to add and subtract that weight and use it for increased effectiveness is an accomplishment.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
well summarized, fair concise list.
Pacquiao should be number one. It is the easy answer, but that does not make it wrong. Mentioning that Manny never really cleaned out a division is a criticism that is hard to swallow for me, being that is comes right after the summary of Floyd who had the chance to clean out a stacked jr welterweight division, but ran from it, and that is not mentioned.
I also believe Joe is close. I put him in the top 3. Nice, fair summary of him.
I would also love to put the great Kostya Tszyu in the top ten, but I’m not sure who I could bump.
I tried to raise some pros and cons for each
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Why should he have to clean out divisions?
Moving up in weight to take on arguably, and sometimes definitely, better fighters is more of an achievement in my opinion.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
That was my only criticism of the article.
The necessity of mentioning that Manny hasn’t cleaned out divisions, while omitting the same about Floyd. My top five goes: 1. Manny, 2. Floyd, 3. Calzaghe, 4. Calderon, 5. B-Hop. I don’t dock points for a fighter skipping smaller opponents to go fight champions at a higher weight class, unless it’s a string of obvious powder-puffs like the Kosher Krusher. Then you’ve got legitimate match-making issues that should be discussed.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Gotcha
I have it 1. Manny 2. Calderon 3. Floyd 4. Calzaghe 5. Hopkins
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
I said he hasn't fought the top fighters in the weight classes he's been in recently
Doesn’t that, by definition, mean he hasn’t cleared out those weight classes? And Floyd did pretty much clear out 135.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He hasn't cleared out the divisions
But I don’t see that as a bad thing.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Neccesarily a bad thing
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
JC40
Hopkins
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Agreed, Hopkins no question.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Went with the little man
Although his skills have deteriorated lately Ivan Calderon is probably the most sublime defensive specialist of this decade, bar none. The funny thing is that there are 2 people who have beaten Cotto on this list, Manny and Ivan (amateur bout but still). Almost a crime that he has so few votes….
Agree with you
He does have too less votes but at the same time I think its because of the weight class. Lighter weights get overlooked all the time. I did vote for Bhop and he got my vote mainly because in January 15 2000 he turned 35 years old!! Consider all that he has done from a age where most fighters are getting beat up by young up and comers to make a buck.
Pacquaio really rubs me the wrong way..
..But all things considered, he was the guy I voted for. Joe Calzaghe’s done great things, Floyd’s done great things (no matter what anyone says about ducking etc) and Bernard is Bernard, however I think that what gave Manny the edge for me was the fact that he beat the best little guys in the world, and now he’s beating the best big-little guys in the world. Yes, Morales was certainly faded, and yes, Barrera was probably on the slide by the time Manny got to him, however I will not buy the argument that Cotto was a spent force by the time that fight came around, nor will I buy the argument that Hatton was a spent force by the time that one came around. Simply put, Manny Pacquiao’s achievements are stunning, and in a very good decade, he just about pips the lot of them.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
Martin Luther Mayweather
OK seriously, I just heard on ESPNs show PTI, that lil’ Floyd now compares himself to MLK and Malcolm X because of his efforts to make the world a better and more fair place for all of mankind through his efforts to institute RDT. Never mind that he really has nothing in place to accomplish this procedure other than his unfounded accusations, why let a little thing like facts get in the way. All Hail The Savior, RUFKM. Peace!!
nothing to do with Pacquiao
Floyds contributions to society have nothing to do with Manny Pacquiao or even the sport of boxing except for him paying out of pocket for golden gloves in Michigan.
I also dont agree with him comparing himself to such great minds as Dr. King and Malcom X and what they did for humanity.
Floyd mayweather is very charitable outside of the boxing ring and this has nothing to with the sport or Manny pacquiao. To comment on the rest of your post Full blood and urine testing for the sport of boxing are needed. People are putting their lives at stake in the ring. Why shouldnt it be mandated?
Why shouldnt it be mandated?
I know this isn’t a popular viewpoint, but it’s a lot more expensive than urine testing, and thus would make small fights financially less feasible. Also, frankly, other than EPO and blood doping type substances, I just don’t think PEDs do a whole hell of a lot in boxing. Pretty much every study I’ve seen on HGH says it’s 90% placebo effect. Steroids don’t help boxers because they make the fighter retain water weight, and they still need to make the scales.
I know it’s not the popular viewpoint, but I think the cost just isn’t worth the benefit.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
That said
I see no reason why it shouldn’t be mandated for big fights.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
MLK and Malcolm X
He doesn’t even understand how different they were; the guy’s being an idiot.
Disclaimer: This isn’t Mayweather “hate”: I would point this out with anyone!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Agree.
To compare yourself, simultaneously to those two individuals while somehow attempting to convey their similarity is pushing the bounds a bit. Both were accomplished political activists, but that’s absolutely where the similarities end.
And for the record, I don’t think Floyd has a career in politics after his fight day.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Maybe as the Mayor of Grand Rapids!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 15, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
I thought I remembered hearing some interview where he compared himself to Gandhi as well
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Is it a slow boxing week? Is it in the run-up to a fight? Are people not normally talking about the fight? What’s the surprise?
by Waldo Rastel on Feb 16, 2010 4:52 AM EST up reply actions
Lefferts01
I’m not against blood and urine testing, petetion the commissions of each state, each country and make it a legally mandated procedure. However to use this as a reason to get on the pulpit and draw attention to YOURself does nothing to advance the cause. It serves only to draw attention to YOURself. And there is NO defence for likening YOURself to MLK,…that is beyond wrong Peace!!.
Mayweather just stop talking please....
It should be a legally mandated procedure. Do I think Mayweather is doing this for the good of the sport…..NO. But hopefully it will take boxing in the right step. I read that transcribed interview with the Chief executive or President or whoever he was from USADA and that amazed me at the timing you can get rid of steroid traces…..
Do I think Mayweather is doing this for the good of the sport…..NO. But hopefully it will take boxing in the right step.
That’s where I’m at too. If I have to say, “Hey Floyd Mayweather made this happen,” even though I don’t think he did it for anyone but himself, and for reasons I don’t agree with, then that’s perfectly fine so long as it happens.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Feb 16, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Totally Agree
When he is in the ring I am a huge Floyd Mayweather fan. You have to love his ring intelligence, hand speed, crafty defense and of course his overall talent and ability. Outside the ring I wish he was deaf and had no vocal cords……Maybe for once his mouth will do something good and who knows maybe even save a life or two.
i’d take Margarito out of the hounerable mentions straight away if it were me,
damm this is hard one to pick, the obvious choice is Manny, however im gna go with B.Hop, the way he’s carried on fighting at the level he has at the age he has deserves some cred. The way he demolished Pavlik opitmimises him in a way, picking up the form book and tearing it 2 shredz :)
voted pacquiao obv
baby bull should be in the honorable mentions
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
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