As odds widen, Pacquiao-Clottey closing in on 45,000-seat sellout
by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2010 3:30 PM EST
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Calvin Watkins of ESPN Dallas reports that the March 13 fight at Cowboys Stadium between Manny Pacquiao and Joshua Clottey is nearing a sellout of the 45,000-seat setup that has been arranged, and if ticket demands increase, more seats could be added.
Whether they fully sell out or not, Pacquiao-Clottey will have the biggest live attendance for a boxing event on U.S. soil in years.
As for betting odds, they're massively in Pacquiao's favor right now. A quick look at some of the figures out there, just for entertainment and discussion:
- Sportsbook.com: Pacquiao -550, Clottey +350
- Bodog: Pacquiao -600, Clottey +400
- Bookmaker.com: Pacquiao -480, Clottey +395
- BetUS: Pacquiao -600, Clottey +400
- 5Dimes: Pacquiao -525, Clottey +415
- The Greek: Pacquiao -500, Clottey +400
- BetOnline: Pacquiao -600, Clottey +400
- JustBet: Pacquiao -435, Clottey +355
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If Clottey wins..
..Would this be the biggest upset since Tyson-Douglas? Considering the guys Pacquaio’s beaten over the past 5 years or so, it would be a pretty monumental upset.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
I guess it depends what you mean by 'biggest'...
Pacquiao – De La Hoya was an upset in a much bigger fight (I find it amazing how quickly people forget that Pac was a 2.5-1 underdog in that one); odds have been wider than these for a number of other big to sort of big fights.
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Maybe I'm nuts
But should Clottey be THAT big of an underdog? Don’t get me wrong, he needs the fight of his life, he needs TO NOT LET UP LATE and fight all 12 rounds(not doing so cost him the Cotto fight), but he’s a talented fighter. I’m far from a betting guy, but these odds suggest to me that Clottey is perceived to have absolutely no chance to win. I don’t agree.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 25, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, I completely agree.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Feb 25, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I believe Clottey has essentially no chance to win.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
It seemed that when the fight was made, the response was, well, this is a perfectly acceptable fight, certainly no PBF-PacMan, but reasonable nonetheless. If people think Clottey essentially cannot win, is it really acceptable? Or are we basically at the point where we believe PacMan is so good that acceptable no longer equals “the other guy can conceivably win this fight”?
by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 25, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Who else was he going to fight? Mosley was still tied up, as was Berto. I do not blame him for not wanting to fight Yuri Foreman any more than I wouldn’t blame him for not fighting Kelly Pavlik. I just think Clottey is in a horrible spot stylistically in this fight. It’s still a very acceptable fight. Clottey’s a top five welterweight and a very good fighter. I just think the fight stinks for him, and I also think he tops out at “very good,” and those are his best days.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
A very fair point
A loss here, and just about everyone says Clottey was a nice fighter, but “very good” was was ceiling. A win would clearly change the way he’s viewed drastically.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 25, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
If he beats Pacquiao, “Upset of the Year” voting can be tallied on March 14.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Paul Williams was trying to land a fight with Kelly Pavlik at 160.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Also...
this fight has really snuck up on me. Hard to believe it is right around the corner. Still on the fence about plunking down the cash for it.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 25, 2010 4:01 PM EST reply actions
I'm considering saving my money on this one
And buying the Sonsona card this weekend instead, which doesn’t have the name power but is a more solid card top to bottom. HBO will replay the fight anyway.
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But more likely
I’ll probably just waste my money on both
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box azteca 4 life. i can actually wait the extra few hours to watch this for FREEEEEEE
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Feb 26, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
but he needs a KO, that’s the only way he can win IMO. And I don’t think he throws enough punches or enough combos to get Pac out of there. I think the odds are appropriate.
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Yeah,
i don’t think he’s fast enough to tag Manny either.He’ll get bamboozled and will be less effective than Cotto was,imo.
Just curious
Cotto-Clottey on March 13 instead of this one: who do like and why?
by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 25, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well i think Cotto deserved the decision in the first fight but after taking a beating in his last fight,it would be hard for me to pick him if they were fighting again so soon after the Pac v Cotto fight.
I’d prob go for Clottey in another close one.
Clottey on points
The temptation is to just say, because that’s what happened last time, but I will resist! I think he can make himself very bad stylistically for Cotto is he works about 30% harder in the ring. That’s all it would take.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 25, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
He's absolutely got to be more active
than he’s ever been, or at least in the fights in which I’ve seen him. Could well be a case of old dog/no new tricks, but if he thinks he’s going to hold his gloves in front of his face for 80% of all 12 rounds and win, he’s insane. If he’s there to win, and not simply collect a check, he try to be more active.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 25, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
This being Clottey’s big fight he must know he has to go for it. Im expecting at some stage he will throw caution to the wind and try throwing shots, will it do anything? I dout it with the speed of Pac, but a wrong move could still change things. Earlier the better because after Pac has figured out timing he will be able to step away more effectivly
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I think that to but he cant win by keeping his high gard up for 12 rounds. He is bigger and stronger and can take a good shot. Might be a case of take 2 or 3 to land one and hope it does damage. With saying that I think like you that it wont amount to anything other than Pac countering and making Clottey look slow.
"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Ali
Clottey’s upper body looks ripped to bits in that picture.
Is Manny gonna demand blood tests or what:)?
Clottey’s upper body is really thick. I don’t think there’s a welterweight out there with that sort of upper body development. It’s really the reason he struggles with the weight sometimes, because he’s not particularly tall or lengthy. Just massive in the shoulders and arms.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he’s another one. Really broad shoulders for a 147-pounder.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
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