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What were your Favorite Left Hooks



 

One of my Favorites 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me acknowledge at the outset that I likely have failed to include some that should be included, so I am depending on you to fill in the blanks. Still, the following provided some indelible memories that are well worth sharing:


1951: The first great left hook I ever witnessed was launched by Jersey Joe Walcott against Ezzard Charles in July 1951 in Ring Magazine’s Fight of the Year. It came out of the blue, as Joe was shuffling in at Charles when all of a sudden he let loose with a short, sneaky, and fully leveraged hook that sent the great Charles down and out. Instructive films of this explosive shot are shown to the day as an example of how to leverage a hook with body movement to maximize full power. This one is my all-time favorite and I tried to emulate it at times as an amateur fighter.

 


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i mentioned this ko somewhere on here not too long ago. theres a morbid looking photo of this punch i have yet to find.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

The Goaty--attributed

Ward hook to the liver in round nine vs. Gatti.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Tuck that right elbow in tight Ted !

A recording of that demo on said very large guinea pig might make entertaining viewing Don.. Yes?

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 1, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Frazier,

round fifteen, first Ali fight: Launched from a different time zone.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Joe

Louis electrocuting Max Schmeling.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

As much as I hated to

see them, the double hooks to the body that SRL turned the Hearns fight around with.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

Any

Micky Ward light hook to the head, explode the liver combination.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Dempsey--

Favorite combination: Hook to the balls, hook to the head.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

Who was the Benny

Leonard era left hook terror, Ted (Benny defeated him)?

Then I’ll play nice and leave the arena to others.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

Tony Balatazar had a great left hook.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

frazier’s knock down of ali is my fav. marcianos finishing touch on walcott is great as well.

some recent ones, tyson ko of carl williams.

arthur abraham had an epic left hook ko not to long ago. forgot who it was against though.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah,all them stick in the brain.For another recent one,Manny’s on Ricky Hatton wasn’t too bad either!

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 27, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

arthur abraham had an epic left hook ko not to long ago. forgot who it was against though.

Khoren Gevor, I’m guessing. That’s a great one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGQfadN_10Y

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by SC on Feb 27, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yea thats it

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Dirrell better not see it.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If only the kid had a bigger nutsack...

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by Brickhaus on Feb 27, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

sweet mother of god

Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD

by battle axe of doom on Feb 28, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Marciano v Walcott is my favourite ever.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 27, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Floyd's

check hook on Hatton is one of my favourites too………Poor Ricky’s been on the wrong end of at least two beauts! :).
Hatton’s landed some good one’s and done some damage to the body in his time as well though.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 27, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

was it a left or right

that Hatton put Castillo down with?

by Sweet science on Feb 27, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Left

That was a beautiful shot.

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by OliGold on Feb 28, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure it was a left.Castillo was more or less the way to being shot by then,imo,but still a great exampple of Hatton’s excellent body punching.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 28, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Just read Oli’s post (properly)and realised he had already confirmed it.:).

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 28, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

1960: At the Polo Grounds in New York City, Floyd Patterson regained his Heavyweight belt when he flew through the air and hit Ingemar Johansson with a left hook from hell that had the Swede’s leg twitching while he lay unconscious. A frightening scene.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

True dat!

It was quite even up to that point. Ingo was holding his own if I remember rightly.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He was indeed.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The

twitching leg ranks up there with all-time unsettling moments.

Didn’t appear anything good could come of that.
I

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Both Ingo and Floyd died of dementia. Terrible end to two greats.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

This is a test of spelling as I am now on Mozilla

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Frazier but let me tell you what fight -

In the 2nd Quarry fight, JQ waives him in and Frazier obliges, fakes the jab and throws the hook about 8 inches past JQ’s head, just spins his chin like a top.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Feb 27, 2010 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, Quarry was too tough for his own good. I mean, a lot of guys are too tough for their own good, but Quarry was way too tough for his own good. Sad story, but you could see his soul when he fought.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Feb 27, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Tyson

vs. many,but specifically Larry Holmes,Trevor Berbick and Razor Ruddock.
Ruddock nailed Tyson with a few too!

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 27, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

My Top 3

would be; 1/Marciano v Walcott.
                  2/Robinson v Fullmer.
                  3/Frazier v Ali.

Although i will have to see the Walcott v Charles one again as i am sure i have it on dvd but can’t seem to picture it.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 27, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

its pretty brutal. youtube has the whole fight.

i cant find the damn picture of it though.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

1968: In May before 12,000 fans at Madison Square Garden, Big Bob Foster destroyed Dick Tiger with a brutal left hook that sent Dick to dreamland. Ring Magazine would call the 4th the "Round of the Year." Two minutes into the round, Foster threw a right that missed and followed with a short hook that caught Tiger flush coming in. Tiger went down hard and was counted out for the first time in his long career. It had also been only his second knockdown in 77 fights.

Tiger would describe his experience to Ring Magazine afterward: "I do not see anything. I do not hear anything. Everything is all quiet, and it is dark. There is no pain, there is no sound. I do not know I was on the floor. Was I on the floor?"

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Foster

also blitzed Mike Quarry—a shotgun blast. But knocking Tiger very cold? Wow.

Guess I should be glad that my friend didn’t make it through the (Quarry) title eliminator.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post. Heck of a telling of that fight.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Feb 28, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Arazier - Ali 1

Frazier – Ali 1 would be my pick – Frazier would probably have a few in the top 20

by BristolOne on Feb 27, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

The only problem with Frazier - Ali 1...

is that it didn’t KO Ali. Great punch, don’t get me wrong, and the fight was probably already lost (for Ali), but Ali got up – and quickly!!

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Point

Yep – funny it sticks in my mind more than other far more devastating Lefts. Infact Cooper had Ali in more trouble from a single shot !

by BristolOne on Feb 28, 2010 6:26 AM EST up reply actions  

1986: Tommy Morrison decked Razor Ruddock with as sweet and lethal a left hook as one can envision. Incredibly, the tough Ruddock got off the canvas but was then swarmed upon and dropped by the tiring Duke. This one occurred at the Municipal Auditorium in Kansas City, Missouri and was a blood and guts affair to the max.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

What did Ruddock

call his hook/uppercut: had a name for it, right?

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

the smash

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Loved them!

They almost cut Hearns in half and SRL followed up with the obvious hook to his thus exposed chin. Brilliant move.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

For a Hearns fan

it was a terrible moment, but one had to appreciate the execution—

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Never really a Hearns fan..

Although I respect the guy’s KO abilities, but he met a master that night. Great, great fight. I watch it regularly. Pacheco’s silly comments p*ss me off, though. It spoils the action, IMO. SRL was, like Ali, his own man and he didn’t need the silly Doc to tell him what to do, that’s for certain!

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

 Pacheco is weird

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Cooper to Ali 1963

No comment neccessary.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Bob Foster to Mike Quarry

Scary timing, power and accuracy. Went down like a sack of shit.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Good choice, Bob......

I forgot that one on my list…. DAMN!

MR.BILL

Quarry was out before he hit the floor……

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Feb 27, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Both Quarry

and Tiger went down against Foster as if they’d decided to enter the promised land.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry but....

I find that offensive. Are you suggesting that Mike Quarry and Dick Tiger were both Jewish? Promised Land and gentiles in the same sentence just shouldn’t be allowed on mainstream internet web-sites. Kuh!! ;)

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually,

I had no idea that promised land would be taken in that way..
Especially as neither fighter was Jewish.

Maybe “the after-life” works as well & is free of connotations to a particular religion.
BTW, what does Kuh!!:) mean. I may not be Internet savvy as I should be.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

And, I should add,

(not being about anything Jewish) as I—stupidly??—did not stop to think of such.
I’m not one to throw about either ethnic or religious slander.

Anyway, no need to apologize.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, Don. Don't take me too seriously..

I was being satirical – check certain other posts below.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry--

I’m not always the brightest bulb, Randy.

If I couldn’t read your intent from the second sentence. …
A very good satire it was, and wasted on my block head. Next time—

by Don From Prov on Feb 28, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

No probs...

…sorry to involve you but I couldn’t resist taking a poke at someone else with my evil keyboard! At least it’s pretty civilised here, unlike certain sites upon which I have ceased to waste my time. And all the posters here know their stuff!

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen to that though a buzz bomb attacked us in the CLub but was driven off back to the garbage dump.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

One guess

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha

I think you did a lot of people a favour, Ted. You brought out the very worst in the child and he just did the rest. Showed himself up big-time. Good riddance. End of.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, his shrill and inexpicable criticism of this site surprised me, particularly after he had been welcomed aboard. That was very strange.He once said that ESB should be “re-tooled” to prevent abuse and multi-posting. Well, BLH does just that, but now he goes and disses them. Go figure. So be it.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

MrBill

Heh, heh!!!

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Dirty, yet

effective. Famous picture of that, yes?

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, it’s on my site on the classics Page.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike McCallum vs. Donald Curry ONLY because I was there. Curry was a 3-1 betting favorite and was doing well until the 5th round when a left hook from McCallum came out of nowhere. Lou Duva (McCallum’s trainer) went nuts as usual. It’s on YouTube if anyone is interested. The all-time classic left hook, however, is Ali-Frazier I. How Ali got up from that hook thrown from Frazier’s heels is beyond belief! Ali had one Hell of a chin.

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 27, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

McCaallum v Curry

Great KO!…I have that on dvd.
Julian Jackson must have scored a few crackers too.Can’t think of a specific left hook KO of his but i’m sure there will have been some .
I was gonna say the one he layed on Herol Graham,but that was a right.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 27, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

mccallums the most underrated rated fighter of all time. one of my favorites of all time. this was a great ko. just clipped his chin and curry went out.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Frazier’s hook off Ellis’ jaw (‘70)
2. Cooney’s hooks off Norton’s head (‘81)
3. McCallum’s hook off Curry’s jaw (‘87)
4. Petteway’s hook off Simon Brown’s jaw (‘95)
5. Ruddock’s hooks off Dokes’ chin (’90)

MR.BILL

Runner up: Jose L. Ramirez’ hook shot to TKO Eddie Rosario in round 4 of the Rematch in Puerto Rico in 1984……

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Feb 27, 2010 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

All good.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

RE: Quarry post

Randy Loathsome – All due respect, but the wording of Mike Quarry going down “like a sack of shit” was a bit offensive to me. In my opinion, he went down like a ton of bricks. Mike Quarry, or any Quarry for that matter, and “sack of shit” should not be used in the same sentence.

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 27, 2010 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

Relax... it's all good here........

Hmmmm… Well, I’d credit big brother Jerry more so than Mike Quarry as an overall fighter…… Mike had some skill and was tuff, but he also was always in the shadow of Jerry…… Peace…

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Feb 27, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect.....

Going down like a sack of shit doesn’t indicate, in my laguage, that he was ‘shit’, any more than going down like a ton of bricks indicates that he was a brick, if you get my drift? As for using them in the same sentence, check your sentence.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 27, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

vincent pettway v. simon brown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePW3w3_k9M

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

sonny has another i remember watching but cant find the video to get the actual quote.

hes being interviewed by howard cosell and cosell asks him something like “so are you going to use your left hand” and sonny’s reply is brilliant, he says “i plan on using both hands.”

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The combative piss-taking interplay between Cosell and so many fighters is something I wish still existed. Can you imagine any of today’s fighters really being like, “Well Max, that’s a really stupid question.” Floyd and Roy have bantered with Merchant a bit, I guess.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by SC on Feb 27, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

SONNY HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.. I’m reading a very interesting book at the moment called Redemption Song (Mike Marqusee) about the political impact of Muhammad Ali, and there’s a very intriguing section on why Sonny Liston was so hated.

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by OliGold on Feb 28, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

4 reasons I can think of

Not by me but generally: He was black; a criminal; run by the mob; he was brutal in the ring.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Mmm.

It’s very interesting, Liston was as hated by the black community by the white community. The NAACP themselves told Floyd Patterson not to give Liston a shot, and probably the greatest irony of all is that Clay was lauded as the black community’s ‘great white hope’, until he subsequently became Muhammad Ali and the rest is history.

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by OliGold on Feb 28, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right.

I figure that Liston wouldn’t be so despised by his own as he was then, perhaps. I really liked Liston but he was, in a way, an aberration; a staging post between the ‘good’ black champs like Louis, Charles, Walcott and Patterson, and the genuinely scary, and first modern black champ like Ali. ‘Scary’ because he danced to his own tune and it was an unknown melody. He was connected to neither the white establishment nor to the ‘respectable’ civil rights movement. He was out on his own. Plus he was beautiful.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Liston was also hated by some because of his surly attitude.I liked him though and he had come from a pretty deprived background so maybe had reasons for being like he was.
I think he might have been a bit misunderstood too.
The story about the mafia lowlife who threatened to shoot Liston ‘if he ever did that again’ after Sonny jokingly put his fist to the guy’s chin has always stuck with me.
He was used to a large extent and i felt sorry for him after reading his story.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 28, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He

really was pretty funny. Dogs and children, as the cliche goes, liked him, and that = okay by me. Like many, the man had a tough, tough life.

And you’re right, a lot of that life was just beyond his control.

by Don From Prov on Feb 28, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Dogs And Children.

Never heard that one before but i like it! :).
Sounds about right too.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 28, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Dogs and children, as the cliche goes, liked him

One of my favorite sayings. Been a while since I’ve heard it.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by SC on Feb 28, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that I remember the saying

because for the most part only dogs & children do like me!

by Don From Prov on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Another was “5 and 20”—which meant while looking at a pretty member of the opposite sex, “5 minutes of fun will get you 20 years of greif.”

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Topic

Leonard v Boy Green was one of the most vicious hooks I’ve seen. .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_4IfSckVsw

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Simon Brown throwing combos after Petteway iced him was frigging scary .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Very scary

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Curry v McCrory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh477BpDH6U&feature=related

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

Frazier,Bob Foster, Leonard , Tyson and Don Curry all had brilliant left hooks .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

1984: Juan Meza struck Jaime Garza on the sweet point of his jaw with a savage counter hook, snapping his head violently to the side. His body twisted grotesquely and crashed hard to the canvas, his head bouncing dangerously off the canvas. Garza’s eyes rolled up into his head. He was in bad shape but made a valiant effort pull himself upright after rolling under the ropes. His effort was too little too late. Referee LoBianco reached the count of ten a split-second before Garza fully regained his feet, but he would have been in no shape to continue even if he had beaten the count. This one was in Kingston, NY.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

Good Morning from Orstraya Ted , watched that one a few weeks ago , frigging incredible fight.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Speaking of good hooks to the gonads Cooneys efforts against Holmes was one of the better ones.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

An all-time classic. “Don’t Blink.”

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Joe Louis’ combo against Baer was one of my fave uses of the left hook, Ted . Joe had a really pretty hook. He was really good with the short hook like the one you mentioned Walcott landing against Charles. Jersey Joe manged to ping the bomber with that one a few times as well.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

RE: Hopkins vs. De la Hoya

It wasn’t as glamorous because it wasn’t a head shot, however, that left hook to the body that Hopkins landed against De la Hoya paralyzed him! At least being KO’d with a head shot you don’t (I’m told) feel any pain, but De la Hoya was in big-time pain! The punch hurt me hundreds of miles away in front of the TV.

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 27, 2010 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

Good.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That was my sentiments exactly.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 1, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfvlZjmWa4o

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 1, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

1999: Derrick "D Train" Jefferson almost decapitated Maurice Harris with a devastating hook that was named the 1999 Ring Magazine Knockout of the Year. Jefferson, at 6’6" and weighing 240 pounds, got everything into the shot.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

ah maurice harris. he had philly ties. another coulda woulda shoulda. bad management, bad trainers.

i think he was born in jersey. that might be the reason he never became of much actually

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 27, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Vrptx31_U&feature=related Geezuz Christ thats a left hook Ted. I dont know if Ive ever seen a harder punch landed in a fight. Thats on the level of Norris – Jackson and Hearns Duran .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

That one still makes me cringe. How Harris survived that ppunch I will never now.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Massive left hook

Perfect delivery.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 27, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I have that on tape.I’d forgot about that.Great shot.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 28, 2010 4:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Harris's

mouthpiece looks like it was shot out of a cannon.

Unreal.

by Don From Prov on Feb 28, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Sam Peter vs. Jeremy Williams … Brutal!!!

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 27, 2010 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

That, like Brock over Lawrence, was a decapitation.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I always forget about that one. Just nasty.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by SC on Feb 27, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I know its a right hand but its a fast kayo Aussie tent fighting !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6lNNw0Kq3k Fastest knockout in an Aussie Tent fight Ted , wtf was the bearded bloke doing by the way . Alcohol and fighting is a good comination for some blokes but not this fella. Tent fighting used to be quite big in small town bush Australia but its dying .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta love the tent fighting JC!

My old coach Johnny Lewington played ‘Lenny the tent fighter’ in the Shiralee with Bryan Brown.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 27, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

very LL another beauty

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

King Arthur Abraham in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1eOR1Jejng&feature=related

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Spinks v Marvin Johnson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHjxgPeqKw

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Ding a Ling!

2007: Staten Island was the scene for Darnell ‘The Ding a Ling Man’ Wilson’s scary ending of his fight with former USBA cruiserweight champion, Emanuel Nwodo. The icing came after a short chase. It was a fully leveraged left hook that hit the trrapped and helpless Nwodo flush and rendered him a rag doll as he fell unconscious to the canvas. It was the type of knockout that made you wonder whether he would ever get up; it was chilling.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Decapaitation hooks are the most enjoyable. HHhmmm, does that make me sadistic?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Nah Ted just a fight fan ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS77moBJnTM&feature=related jeezuz thats what you call iced .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Take it easy Ted , I’m going out for lunch with the better half to decapitate some prawns and assault a Coral Trout . Cheers Champ , always a pleasure mate!

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Feb 27, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Just watched

Damned United about Brian Clough: No left hooks thrown, but it was a good movie.

by Don From Prov on Feb 27, 2010 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

RE: Peter vs. Williams

Jeremy Williams’ brother, Jason, shared with me an interesting story about the Peter fight. Jason told me that Jeremy had a special mouthpiece made especially for that fight. He knew he might need to absorb some heavy shots to the head. After Jeremy was KO’d, the ref and medical personnel couldn’t get the mouthpiece out of Jeremy’s mouth. They were all extremely concerned with his health due to a lack of an open airway.

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 27, 2010 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 27, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ray Leonards KO of Davey “Boy” Green. Perfect shot.
GIl Clancy once said during a TV broadcast “Mexicans are born throwing left hooks”. The image of millions of infants throwing hooks has never left me.
“and the arm of the infants were raised in the air,
the day I saw Bo Diddley in Washington Square”
Willie Nile
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by FrankinDallas on Feb 27, 2010 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Bo Biddley was the man!

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Arrgh!

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw Bo at the Lewisham Odeon around 1977...

….on a Rockabilly bill with Carl Perkins and others. Sadly none of the numb-nuts in the audience knew who he was. Sad. Great Gretsch guitars.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Love the White Falcon Randy.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 28, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Bo Diddley Was One Of the True Innovators of 20th Century Popular Music

http://www.dennischandler.com/img/assets/1008/dcg_008.jpg The big B . Heres an interesting story on how Diddley had his second rectangular built in Australia. http://members.tripod.com/~Originator_2/meanmachine.html The Bo Diddley two bits and a haircut beat has been used in so many popular songs it would take me a day to write them all down . Cheers Blokes.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Mar 1, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Bo actually did some amature boxing in Miss.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Marines?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 2, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay

Law enforcement. Bob served a few years in the police department at Albequerqe (spelling?) and Bo was a deputy sheriff for a while. Or that’s the legend.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Bo a deputy sherrif!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 2, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Geezuz Takaloo had dipped to his own left to load up on a hook and was caught in the act . Never seen that one , cheers Goaty.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Mar 1, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Nigel Benn v Anthony Logan

Dropped in the first and on the receiving end of a 22 punch flurry, Benn pulled out a left hook from hell.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 27, 2010 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

A super great affair,

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Benn v Logan

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 27, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

sorry, can’t get the link up

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 27, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Goatsnake – When you “can’t get the link up,” try 100 mg of Viagra. It gets my “link up” every time!

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 28, 2010 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

LOL L.L !!

I’m all over it mate. I’ll get back to ya with a progress report !

 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npnd8T9dNBU

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 28, 2010 6:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Profundo disgusto!

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Tiagra works as well. Good for 18 holes.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

DLH’s left hook that knocked vargas back to the barrio. not a KO shot, but it was still beautiful.

Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD

by battle axe of doom on Feb 28, 2010 1:23 AM EST reply actions  

One of my all-time favourites!

Perfection – except Vargas was still strong enough to get up from it. But the look on his face still gives me wood.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

“Vargas back to the barrio.” Good one!

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 28, 2010 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

I have to admit I have a soft spot for Joshua Clottey’s left hook, sometimes it’s a bit sweeping, sometimes its more of a slap. But, there’s just something about it when he gets it on track and in combination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOcDe-Lfsk8

by dervish686 on Feb 28, 2010 2:05 AM EST reply actions  

Julian Jackson was more of a right hand bomber, but he knocked out guys with great left hooks too. Between :54 and 1:10 and 2:03 and 2:10 are two great single shot left hook ko’s from Virgin Islands born knockout artist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npnd8T9dNBU

by dervish686 on Feb 28, 2010 2:15 AM EST reply actions  

Tyson v Berbick

Dropped Berbick 3 times with the one left hook.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Feb 28, 2010 6:36 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, That was in 1986: Trevor Berbick was knocked out by Mike Tyson at the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas.
Berbick was decked twice in round 2. After trying to rise from the second knockdown, he fell another two times. In short, he fell three times as a result of one punch and traveled over most of the ring’s surface in the process.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

2005: Alan "Sweetness" Green proved to be anything but as he starched Jaidon Codrington in Oklahoma in just 18 seconds. Green set Codington up lethall combinations and then finished him off with a left hook to the chin that put him to sleep as he fell through the ropes. The savage victory earned Green the 2005 Ring Magazine KO of the Year. It was first believed that Codrington had suffered fractured sixth vertebrae. However, doctors retracted that diagnosis and Codrington was released after neurological tests and CAT scans of the vertebrae came back negative. Fortunately, he has fully recvovered and is now in the "Contender" series.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

But thenBika finished him off.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

that will go down as a classic one day

Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD

by battle axe of doom on Feb 28, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Great KO.

I have to admit i was also glad to see Vic get his big mouth shut.
Donaire is one of my favourite current fighters.Great technique and good all-rounder(power,speed,etc).
He needs to start fighting some live opponents again though.Hopefully his promoter(Arum?) can get him the rematch with Darchy.I know who my money would be on :).

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Feb 28, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful

shot. I hope Donaire fills his potential (or what I think is his potential)>

by Don From Prov on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Hamed over Kelley - final knockdown

Brutal left hook had Kelley on queer street.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Hamed over Sergio Liendo

2nd round. A genuine left hook from the orthodox stance – as good as any.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Curiosly, Hamed, Jones, and Ali were amoong the few who could rock someone while backing up.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

True

Hamed was sheer power and awkward angles; Jones was hand-speed and awkward angles; Ali was timing and hand-speed. I reckon. What say you, Ted?

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t argue with that at all.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

RE: Rocking someone while backing up

As far as Ali is concerned, I think Sonny Liston would agree with you.

by L.L. Cool John on Feb 28, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a left hook, but my favourite hook of all time is Julian Jackson's right to Herol Graham.

It’s on YouTube and it’s one of the most brutal knockouts I’ve ever seen. Graham is out before he hits the floor.

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by OliGold on Feb 28, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, he was gone alright.

Daft twat went in looking to finish Jackson. Graham’s problem at the time was that he couldn’t draw flies to a turd because he was so defensive minded. For this fight, having ‘softened him up’, as he thought, he decided to go for it and left his chin open to the air and anything Jackson threw.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Has anyone mentioned Cooney over Norton where he alsmost killed him thanks to the referee?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Gatti over Gamache. Oh my God.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Somewhat weird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=movtSx1mPYk

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

The Left From Hell

Someone mentioned Benn and Logan. I think it was Loathsome. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_PTvPPW3Q

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

Great left hook but what ....

… a dreadful display of recklessness from Benn – pre-Watson wasn’t it?

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I think so.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

One thing I'll say for Benn

Is he did finally learn to box his way in and not steam in like this and against Watson. The Logan fight was a wake-up call; the Watson fight a thorough schooling. And he learned. And he’s finally found some peace too. He was such an angry man especially when Eubank’s name came up. Tee hee. But what earned him my total respect was the McClellan fight. I still watch it, not for the long-term damage he inflicted but for the fact it was a great fight and he showed tremendous character. There are few fighters who took the G-Man into deep water like that. I still watch the Eubank vs Watson second fight too. I still can barely believe that Eubank, exhausted, in his own mind a beaten man, and punched to the canvas in round11, was able to summon that uppercut from hell to dump Watson near the round’s end. Watson was near exhaustion too, I feel, but was sure that Eubank was finished. Eubank went down on his knees for a 3 second count or similar and just walks accross to Watson who appears to not barely move towards him and delivers that one punch with goodnight written all over it. Best punch he threw and landed all night. Two tremendous fights involving the best British Middleweights of the time and two great fights ending in the tragedy that none of us wants but we have to accept can be part of this sport.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Feb 28, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what Brit boxing was all about back in th day. Throw in Carl The Cat and you have an Expressway to Hell.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Throw in my man Chris Pyatt who beat Sumbu Kalambay and lost to Steve Collins and John David Jackson.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 1, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Pyatt was very good, indeed.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Threw a nice left hook too.

I became a big Pyatt supporter after seeing him fight Brian Anderson at Granby Halls, Leicester in an eliminator for the British LMW title back in 84. Bruno fought a 4 rd exhibition with Horace Notice on the same show.

Loved Pyatt’s hard, aggressive boxing style, nice combination puncher, but yeah a natural light middle. Great UD victory over Kalambay to lift McClellan’s vacated WBO MW title in Leicester back in 93. Chris also beat tough Aussies Kevin Bones Kelly and Craig Trotter for the Commonwealth LMW title. Fought Gianfranco Rosi for the Euro belt early on too. Chris runs a gym in Leicester now. Good luck to him.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 2, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Calzaghe waiting in the wings

Although without the Super Middle division, maybe he was more a LightHeavy.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It was Goatsnake who mentioned it.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m more impressed by benns hairstyle than the left.

theres another british fight with a great (ajd even better) ending like that. wasnt a big fight at all. ill have to look a bit for it.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 28, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it Takaloo v Wayne Alexander perhaps?

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 1, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxnispnYSQE

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 1, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy mother of God!

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Thought you’d appreciate that one.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 1, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Never Seen That One

Bad blue by Takaloo , he swayed to his left to load up on a big hook and Alexander beat him to the punch . Never hook with a hooker blah blah blah ……. Cheers Goaty

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Mar 1, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yup thats it

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 1, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Brutal!

i remember seeing that at the time.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Tito

must be in here somewhere: He certainly caught a few opponent’’s attention.

by Don From Prov on Feb 28, 2010 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

I think he shook Vargas’ molars a bit.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Feb 28, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

fun video

i dont agree with the list at all but its still fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiqaAehf1VA

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 28, 2010 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Ruddock's "Smash" and Cooney's "Hooks" were wicked...

I still love (I’m a freak) watching Cooney sit Norton down with a pair of Hooks in round 1 from MSG back in 1981. YO!

I also like to review Ruddock’s destruction of both “Smith and Dokes” from 1989 and ’90 with wicked type of smashing hooks, etc….

OH! Morrison’s hook that dropped Ruddock in round 6 back in 1995 was a thing of beauty. How Ruddock got up from that still makes me wonder.. Oh, Yeah….

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by MRBILL40 on Mar 1, 2010 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

Sadist? We all are!

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Not I.

I always thought Kenny looked like Goofy with that silly moustache and Cooney turned him double-goofy. Nice one that. He didn’t feel a thing.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If you count Foreman's swings as hooks....

…he duffed up Joe F with some pretty impressive ones too. For the final KD he looked like he was chopping a tree down in training. He even timed Frazier’s evasions to give him a bit of a cross-beat rhythm to deal with. Coming from Philly, Joe’s musical appreciation wasn’t up to the Texan back-beat concept. Although, technically, George didn’t lift Joe off the canvas, it’s still a pretty impressive way of trying to land on the canvas on the souls of his boots whilst his nervous system was short-circuited. Poor old Joe.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 4:48 AM EST reply actions  

"Chopping Down"--

Exactly what George did to Lyle when he ended their fight.

Slow motion chopping.

by Don From Prov on Mar 1, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Here is my favorite--Walcott waxing Charles with a short, sharp, and sneaky letf hook.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFX0F0qUM-Q

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Hellyeah!! What a punch!

That was sneaky Ted. I love how Walcott just walks straight up to Charles, draws the jab, dips , lets the punch sail over his right shoulder, and throws that natural hook in one fluid movement. Beautiful positioning. Ezzard’s head was almost at Walcott’s left shoulder when he launched that short hook. Awesome. Watched it a dozen times.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 1, 2010 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah. I always tell youn guys who are thinking about boxing to look at this film as an introduction to the perfect hook. I also tell them to put a newspaper under their left arm and start throwing hooks and see how long they can keep that paper in place.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

Old school

Perfect indeed. Cold and clinical. Ezzard fell face-first – don’t know that I’ve seen that too often from a left hook.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Recently, Bute taking out Andrade with a hook to the body was awesome. Remember that Bute had just put him on the canvas with a left hook to the head. So that makes TWO great hooks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuZAX_4Gg54

by FrankinDallas on Mar 1, 2010 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

Charles/Walcott--

What beautifully schooled and smart fighters.
That hook, IMO, is = Robinson taking out Fullmer.

Bute/Andrade: I could watch that body shot all day long.

by Don From Prov on Mar 1, 2010 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

Yep

And how much is Walcott, particularly, not given credit as a fighter? Charles gets credit as a Light-Heavy and a great fighter but Walcott gets nowt. I thought he was boxing brilliantly against Marciano first time too until he tired in the 13th – Marciano had that effect, particularly given JJ’s age at the time

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe lost too many fights, while Charles may have fought the best opposiion of any fighter in history.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he did...

But Walcott was an old-time trier and deserves more from history IMO.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Just Checked

his record.Didn’t realise it was that good!
I can see why he is ranked so highly by so many:3 wins over Archie Moore,2 wins over Charley Burley,2-2 with Walcott,2-0 against Joey Maxim,beat (a faded?)Joe Louis.The 2 losses to Marciano.
Like you say Ted,what a record!

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Rocky Marciano (twice) IBHF/WBHF
Joe Louis IBHF/WBHF
Jersey Joe Walcott (four times) IBHF/WBHF
Archie Moore (thrice) IBHF/WBHF
Rex Layne (thrice)
Joe Maxim (five times) IBHF/WBHF
Jimmy Bivins (four times) IBHF/WBHF
Charley Burley (twice) IBHF/WBHF
Lloyd Marshall (thrice) WBHF
Gus Lesnevich WBHF
Ken Overlin (twice)
Elmer Ray (twice)
Harold Johnson IBHF/WBHF
Bob Satterfield

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Best opposition?

Ali fought Patterson, Liston, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes, not to mention Terrell, Moore, Chuvalo, Norton, Bonavena, Quarry, Shavers, Lyle, Berbick, Spinks, Foster, Bugner, Cooper, Ellis.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh,i won’t argue with that.:)
I mentioned the same thing in the Ali G.O.A.T fanpost in the next thread down.
Came out on top in,by far,the best era of heavyweights ever.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I did an article on another site comparing Louis’s opponents to Ali’s as a friend of mine had contended that Louis had fought so many past or future Heavyweight champs he just had to the greater. Check out Ali’s!! I fully accept the class of many of Charles’s opponents but his loss record ain’t great -and KOd 7 times? Also many of those opponents were a tad long in the tooth and had typically many losses also. As I say below, one could argue all night but I don’t wish to.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That He Was KO'd 7 Times,when Ali was never KO'd,

as you mention,against some of the hardest punchers of all time like Foreman,Frazier,Liston and Shavers says something too,imo.Charles did have twice as many fights though.I think their achievements are definitely comparable and Ali has always landed higher on the reputable all time P4P lists that i have read.
As far as Ali v Louis goes,i have more or less all Ali’s fights from Doug Jones onwards on dvd and have studied his style many times over 15-20 years.
I have quite a few of Louis’ fights too and in my opinion,for all the great fighter that Louis was,i just think he would have been too slow of hand and foot speed to beat a peak Ali.Who knows what would have happened?
When looking at their level of opposition though,well,there weren’t many ‘Bum Of The Month’ candidates on Ali’s ledger :).

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

DeAgostini’s released a ‘Boxers’ collection a few years ago in the UK.
There were about 50 fighters included and i haven’t watched them all but looking though the collection now,i am glad to say that i have the 3 Walcott v Charles fights,between 1951 and 1952 on one set(including the rd 7 KO mentioned earlier),the full Marciano v Walcott fight with the famous rd 13 KO on another set and highlights of Marciano v Charles from 1954 on another(Power Punchers)set.
I am gonna watch them again as i can’t remember the Walcott KO7 Charles one.
I will treasure these for years to come.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I remember that -

it came with a magazine of doubtful accuracy. Sadly, some of those fights had after-fight commentary added by some UK regional sports idiot whose name escapes me. I once wrote to him I was so angry at the rubbish he spoke and the way he delivered it. Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful. Good series of fights though, otherwise. I have a few of them.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Just Having Classic Fights

like them on dvd from 50 years ago,i don’t care much about the commentary.I wasn’t exactly expecting Howard Cossell:).

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough!

Mine are on VHS! But I bet it’s the same set of fights. Mind you, even when a fight has a reputable commentator it can put me off as it colours one’s view of what’s happening – or it can. I can still hear Pacheco’s stupid voice whining that SRL had, in his words, thrown away the first round’ against Hearns. Maybe he could have done better against Tommy, I dunno. Then, the other commentator, when Tommy was out on his feet in the 14th, said that Tommy was going to get knocked out and then, when the ref stopped it, in the next breath he moaned that it was stopped too soon!!! Both Pacheco and the main commentator were convinced, I am certain, that Tommy was going to beat Sugar Ray and any deviation from their script was treated accordingly as if it just couldn’t be happening.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ali was stopped once though..

Only his chin and bravery kept him standing against Holmes. But that was a totally shot fighter. Ali had one of the best chins in Heavyweight history, that’s for sure. I don’t feel it’s neccessary to wonder whether Louis would or would not have beaten Ali in the ring but I do tend to think that Louis was made for Ali. As for ‘Bums of the Month’, I could list Richard Dunne, Brian London, Karl Mildenberger, Al Lewis – okay, not exactly ‘bums’ but not great opposition. But, like Louis, Ali just about fought every top ten Heavyweight of three decades and a few Light-Heavies too.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

Ali was done before the 1st Spinks fight and the Holmes fight was 2 years after the 2ND Spinks fight!
He should have probably retired after the Thriller In Manilla,imo.Yes i forgot he was retired in the Holmes fight but i think everyone knows that wasn’t even 50% of the best Ali in there.Still a stoppage though,as you say.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:Spinks

I mean,Spinks was 6-0-1 going into that……..and he won!

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I always thought

that the two ATG heavyweight sluggers who were best matched up to beat Ali were Frazier and Dempsey. But a lot of folks on here can see more than I do.

by Don From Prov on Mar 1, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

And Marciano?

I was of the opinion at the time that only two types of fighter could beat Ali: An even better version of himself; or a pressure fighter like Marciano or Frazier who could take punishment and throw punches all night long. Frazier proved my point, I believe.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

a prime rocky, tyson, frazier and dempsey and louis all beat ali imo.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2010 6:40 AM EST up reply actions  

My thinking was a mobile, samller but powerful

“hooker” = most troublesome “punchers” for Ali. But Marciano, not a pure hooker, could have been a handful. And as sonofapsycho does, many think another slugger who would beat him is Louis (though I think of Louis as more boxer/puncher—but that may be nit-picking).

Thought there was some evidence in his career that a smaller, mobile boxer like Tunney would give Ali problems.

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I would agree that a Frazier or a Marciano would have the best style to beat Ali.Maybe Louis too.It’s sometimes hard to tell from watching old black and white film just how good a fighter was.I wouldn’t agree that Tyson would have beat Ali but would certainly have given him a hell of a fight.
Not sure about Dempsey eiher.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 2, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

a prime tyson was much faster and had much better defense than dempsey, frazier and rocky.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think possibly all of them would have been capable of beating Ali once,but in a trilogy,i would pick Ali to win at least 2-1 against em all,as he did against Frazier.
But then,i’m an Ali fan :).

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 2, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i can tell.

especially after that reasoning.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I've always maintained - and I have less reason now to doubt myself -

that Ali would have beaten the mentally fragile Tyson before the weigh-in.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yea cause tyson lost fights and ali won fights at the weigh in all the time….

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

To elaborate: Tyson was a bully....

and Ali always destroyed (and humiliated) bullies. That’s one of the three main reasons I love the man as a fighter. The other two reasons? Beautiful athelete to watch and he had the heart of a lion.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I would agree with whoever said

that Ali did not = a great matchup with Ali. I think Ali wins.
Tyson was faster than either “hooker”—Dempsey or Frazier—but he also lacked their stamina, non-stop attack, and their heart.

IMO.
But it’s all conjecture. I still go with the two great “hookers.”

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry--

that Louis did not = a great matchup with Ali.

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i think tyson had the stamina pre prision. just the fights razor proves that. plus the tyrell biggs slaughter. he had no problems in the boncrusher and tucker fights as well.

tysons chin and heart is undermined by many as well.he took beatings by holyfield and douglas and never gave up. he also fought with torn ligaments in his leg in the danny williams fight for 3 rounds. i read a quote from a doctor saying he was amazed that tyson could even stand up let alone fight for 3 rounds with the injury.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are good points.

He had stamina, just, IMO, not GREAT stamina, and great stamina is what a short and short-armed heavyweight is going to need when he faces a great fighter. From early on, people would say of Tyson that he seemed to run out of ideas after five rounds. What ideas? He, like Dempsey, Frazier, and Marciano only had one basic idea: Get into striking distance and let loose. Yet Tyson became less consistent as rounds went on. Look at early Tyson and early Frazier and see how they react to someone who tries to clinch: Joe shrugs them off, Tyson often welcomes clinches. I’m not saying he wasn’t dangerous late, just that he could not keep steady, unrelenting pressure on like others.

Heart? Well there is “fighting on,” and there is refusing to accept that one is beaten. IMO Tyson did generally fight on, but I think he was mentally whupped more than once. And I also think he was vulnerable in later rounds as he wound down. Finally, he took a great punch, but punches seemed to “add up” on him more than—say—a Marciano. Again, all opinion, and MT was dangerous.

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d take any puncher who could box a lick over Wlad the Impaled

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Each is the other's nightmare scenario

I’d probably favor Tyson too though. He’s the one recent fighter I could see having no problem getting inside of Wlad’s jab.

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by Brickhaus on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Pre-prison Tyson

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by Brickhaus on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

“Charles did have twice as many fights though…”

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ted,you saw Louis live at the arena didn’t you?

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 2, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Ted

babysat for Joe Louis, and Jack Dempsey!

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL-sorry Ted,i was not trying to be funny……Don succeeded at that though!
I just mentioned it because i think know you would have more insight into that era than most.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

He did see him, Matt.

He’s mentioned it before and if he sees your post, I’m sure he’ll answer.

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheers Don,

i’m sure he’s a busy man:).

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 2, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I did until youtube hit the scene.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 3, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No, not Depmsey. Give me a break.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 3, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

At the Chicago Stadium. I belive it was against Godoy who sirprisngly gave him a good fight. I was a young whipersnapper and my dad took me.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 3, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, mate

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 3, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Does not even begin to compare to Charles. See above. Thank you for your cooperation.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

looking at that you can see whose is more impressive but i don’t agree that Ali’s doesn’t compare.8 HOF’s surely compares with any boxing resume.Plus Charles did lose quite a few of his biggest fights.
I agree though,Charles’ is better when you list all those.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

No point in arguing it further......

but I’d be interested to know, Ted, where you place Charles in GOAT P4P?

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not nearly as high as Ali, but very high as a light heavyweight. Probably the highest.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

JERSEY JOE WAS A GREAT CUTIE.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, indeed.

Is it just me or did Ezzard make too much use of the top of his head to Walcott’s face?

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

GDay Loathsome you outrage against common decency

Watch old Ezzard against Joe Louis Randolph , Ezzard was as good with his head as Holyfield . He butted Louis like a billy goat for 15 rounds . Then again watch Ali pull his opponents head off continually in clinches or lean on their heads with his forearm. Frazier landed more low blows against Ali in three fights than you could count on an abucus , Marciano was incredibly dirty as was the young Foreman and the young Tyson . Larry Holmes thumb and his use of the left as a blinding prod to disguise the right was also highly illegal . Holyfields head as a weapon ….. My point is that the greats always added a bit of spicy underhanded dirt to their game. It aint beer n skittles in there. Cheers mate!

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by JC40 on Mar 1, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, man, good to see you.

Well, there’s dirty and there’s illegal and there’s gamesmanship. Any illegal action which does damage or attempts to hurt is dirty in my book. Holding doesn’t qualify. As an outrage to common decency, I think I’m qualified to tell you that. Is that gamesmanship? BTW, I never noticed that Frazier hit Ali low. I know Marciano’s elbow would follow through but he had short arms and an untidy style. Tyson fouled a lot but he lacked courage. Foreman fouled? Pushed opponents off and swung their heads down, I guess.Larry Holmes’s thumb was well-known. Holmes copied Ali’s trick of waving the left glove in front of the face to cover the followiing right but illegal? Not sure.

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

A Young Big George In Action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyiFIdbN2H4 Pretty dirty Randy me old mate lol

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by JC40 on Mar 2, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Wild - but dirty??

What did he do?

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah! Yes, I remember he caught him on the floor!

Can’t see it on this footage. He wouldn’t be the first. The ref didn’t seem to mind….

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 2, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Jersey Joe.

One of my favourite old timers.Loved his style.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Norton's "Glazed" look in '81...

Bob,

Norton’s glazed look in his eyes after Cooney boy unloaded a series of hooks and a couple of rights upside Norton’s head gave Norton that particular look….. Scary, but also funny looking…. I guess I’m sadistic to a degree…… I ought to be tortured on the rack for that….. The Pit and the Pendulum…. Edgar A. Poe… Hehehe….

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by MRBILL40 on Mar 1, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Well, yeah!

My favourite moment is Tyson KD by Buster and him shoving his mouthpiece in to the side of his mouth, upside down and back-to-front. Laaarrrf?

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 1, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

May I turn the crank?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Warning: Must be over 21 to watch.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gxn4_arturo-gatti-vs-joey-gamache-februa_sport

Gatti vs. Gamache.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 1, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

In Slo-Mo,

that’s pretty hard for me to watch.BRU-TAL!

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 1, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

god damn i do miss me some gatti. true blood and guts warrior

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by battle axe of doom on Mar 2, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Cooney and Morrison

 What was about them two white H/Ws,..both of em’s left hook were devastating, I remember Bert Sugar saying in the Carl “the truth” Williams fight, Morrison’s left hook is like a lightning bolt. And Mr. Bill I’m with you on that one about Cooney’s left blasting Kenny Norton,….BRUTAL. Peace!!

by Iron Beach on Mar 2, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

Hi Beach. I once talked to Tommy about that one (in Latana, MA over breakfast) and he said that if the ref had not stopped it when he did, he was all done becuase he had gassed,

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 2, 2010 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

tommys stamina and china chin were no question his weakness’ in his career.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Ibeabuchi/Byrd

It was kind of halfway between a hook and an uppercut, but that left Ike Ibeabuchi hit Chris Byrd with is still one of the hardest, cleanest, nastiest shots I’ve ever seen. Just the way the sweat flies off of Byrd is amazing.

And, of course, the immortal “He knocked him stupid!”

by Verklemptomaniac on Mar 2, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yes,

that Ike punch was a beaut. Ike, IMO, showed how a true HW was supposed to handle CB.

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Have to agree with Prov SRR to Gene Fulmer

I believe that was probably the most perfect left hook from all aspects. Was that the 4th fight between SRR and Fulmer? The left hook was a thing of beauty!

by The Pinoy Pikey on Mar 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

The one Tito layed on Vargas in the opening round.

by es milano on Mar 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

See above. I got that one. It was a cruncher. Ruined Vargas.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 2, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Some more fave left hooks

Vincent Pettgrew vs Simon Brown (knocked spark out!)
Alexis Arguello vs Alfredo Escalera (left-jab turned into left hook)
Wladimir Klitschko vs Sam Peter (Wlad turns his left jab into a left hook better than any heavyweight ever).

Dan Adams

by DanAdams on Mar 2, 2010 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

haha @ pettgrew.

youtube link of brown and pettway is in here somewhere.

its a one of a kind ko. scary stuff.

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-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wlad’s one-hand pummeling of Ray Austin was pretty nasty.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by SC on Mar 3, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Arguella/Escalera--

Yes. Alexis turned that jab over over on Mancini too. He could throw.

by Don From Prov on Mar 2, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Not the best, but still a doozy

Calzaghe decking Chrith Eubank in the first 15 seconds or so was a good punch. Eubank was known for a granite chin too.
Apologies if any one has already noted this one.
Randy!… How are you?

by Phill on Mar 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

eubank was well past his prime at the time though.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 3, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, he was, but that’s one of the prices great fighters have to pay when they extend their stay. It’s not JC’s fault; he did what he had to do.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 3, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Sonofapsycho

Like I said, not the best and yes, Eubank may have been past his best, but Calzaghe hadn’t quite reached his best, plus…. who else did you see do that to Eubank so quickly and so early into a fight?

by Phill on Mar 3, 2010 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

nobody comes to mind but my point was it wasn’t that great a feat being eubank was well past his best. first things to go are reflexes and ability to take a shot.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Mar 3, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Don.. Fair point.

Randy, great thanks. You’re being picky about that punch either.. Just wrong ;-)
Good to hear from you, by the way.

by Phill on Mar 4, 2010 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

Hang on, mate....

Was it a left he threw? If so, it wasn’t his lead hand, being a southpaw. That’s the equivalent of a right from an orthodox stance. No? Unless he was in the orthodox stance at the time…..?

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by Randy Loathsome on Mar 4, 2010 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Typo

“not being picky”

by Phill on Mar 4, 2010 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

I get ya Monsieur Randy

The question being asked does exclude our southpaw cousins. Their left hook is a right hook. Joe had a good one. James Kirkland throws a mean right hook, so did Moorer.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 4, 2010 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

Goatsnake/Randy..... now you're really confusing me!! (and that ain't hard)

Lads, the way I saw it is Joe punched Eubank in the “boat” with a left hand… Eubank was sent sliding across the ring on his derriere (that’s for you Randy).

by Phill on Mar 4, 2010 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

Merci

So, a southpaw threw a left which is eqyuivalent to an orthodox figter throwing a right, not a left-hook! Point made; confusion avoided.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 4, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

???????????

So, if a southpaw throws a right hook, that’s technically left, all jokes aside, I truly never knew that.. well, you live and learn and keep learning. Thanks for the clarification.

by Phill on Mar 4, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

I was speaking metaphorically.

The southpaw right hook is their equivalent to the more common orthodox fighter’s left hook.

The fanpost question excludes our avoided southpaw cousins. That was my point. Although Kirkland does throw a hard left hook from the southpaw stance. Benn and Tyson used to throw mean right hooks from an orthodox stance.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Mar 5, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

A hook can come from either hand,as far as i am aware,but is much more common from the lead hand.
A left is a left,a right is a right.Doesn’t matter if you are orthodox stance or southpaw.
A southpaw can still throw a left hook and a wide right thrown by an orthodox fighter would still be a hook,imo.

by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 4, 2010 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

Sothpaws throw right hooks

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 4, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Duh!

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a hook is a punch thrown, usually by the lead hand, with the elbow bent into a 'hook'.

Hence the name. An orthodox fighter will tend to throw a left-hook and a right-cross. Yes, he could throw a hook with the right but because the right is the rear hand, it’s less likely to hit the target – a right-hook could well be out of range, hence the arm would tend to be straighter. A left is hooked because it has to be. The shorter distance to the target requires that the elbow is bent to land the punch.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 5, 2010 3:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t Tyrell Biggs break his right collarbone in a fight, but ultimately won the bout using only a left hook and left jab? I seem to remember watching that on TV back in the ’80s.

by FrankinDallas on Mar 4, 2010 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

Frank

Danny Williams did a similar thing too. Against a guy called marc potter, he dislocated his shoulder. He showed reall guts by boxing on one handed. He won too . Then nearly fainted.. (with pain I suppoe!).

by Phill on Mar 4, 2010 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esaddoboxing%2Ecom%2Fboxing%5Fforum%2Findex%2Ephp%2Ftopic%2C52127%2E0%2Ehtml

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 4, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting, Phil. Didn’t know that about Williams. I’ve had a broken collarbone and I damn sure wouldn’t want to hit and/or get hit.

by FrankinDallas on Mar 4, 2010 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

Frank,

Me too, fell of a skate board!!

by Phill on Mar 5, 2010 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

Lettrelough on Gonzalez in Columbus, Ohio shootout!,

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 5, 2010 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

So--

Who is the pfp hardest left-hooker of all time?
Hardest heavyweight left-hooker of all time?

Best/most effective pfp left-hooker of all time?
(Hmm…. Criteria: Versatility, speed, accuracy, power, quickness [sneaky?]—other?)
Best heavyweight left-hooker of all time?

by Don From Prov on Mar 5, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Joe Frazier has to be in there somewhere. Also, Finito Lopez.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 7, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

aRE YOU ON THE PISS OR WHAT?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 7, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh?

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, being on the piss in Irish means your drinking hard. Sohow do you say it in France?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Pissed

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahahaha

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

mICKY wARD HAS TO HAVE A LOOK SEE AS WELL. MAN, HE DID IN BURTON, GREEN, QUIONEZ, NEARY, GATTI, LOPEZ AND OTHERS WITH THAT LASER SHOT TO THE BODY.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 7, 2010 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

Best Hookers at Heavyweight

GDay blokes , as far as heavyweights there’s been a few . Frazier had the best hook because he could throw it from anywhere and didnt need to be set ( see the one he dropped Ali with ) . Dempsey and Tyson also come to mind as far as shortish attacking heavyweights with great left hooks as does Bert Cooper . Floyd Patterson has a great left hook as well as did Joe Louis . Out of the tall boxers Ali , Holyfield and Wlad Klitschko all have very underrated hooks . The one Ali dropped Bonavena with was a peach , almost Robinson like in the way Ali landed it as a counter while moving backwards. In the 9th round of the first Frazier fight Ali lands 3 or 4 left hooks in a row in an almost Roy Jones like display.Wlad K has always been able to hook off the jab like Ali , he just doesnt do it any more since he became more defensive in his style post Brewster 1 . LMAO Ted , Old ‘Enry did have a great left hook , I’m with Loathsome on that one , shame he had a glass jaw , no size and would bleed if he fell into a full swimming pool ;-) . Razor Ruddocks shovel hook was a bomb as was Gerry Cooneys sledgehammer . Lamont Brewster has probably had the best hook of the last 10 or so years . Tommy Morrison couldnt fight but he did have a great left hook . Cheers Donny I’ll have to have a think about the best hookers under heavyweight mate . Take it easy blokes .

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by JC40 on Mar 7, 2010 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

You tell him, JC40.

I can’t be arsed

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Bert Cooper had a Philly Left hook. As did Gypsey Joe Harris.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Henry Cooper

had a Wembley left-hook and that’s special.

I want a bigger juke-box.

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Southpaw Hookers

Hagler probably had the best right hook I’ve seen a southpaw have while Pernell Whittaker had pound for pound probably the best jab I have ever seen . I wonder if being a lefty made his jab better than it would have been if Pea was orthodox. Michael Moorer also had a great jab and hook for a lefty .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Mar 7, 2010 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Whatever Hagler caught Hearns with has my vote - he turned the Hitman into the Hurtman and that's splendid in my book

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a savage right that was fully leveraged and turned the poor Hitamn into a Rag Doll.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Truly...

..it didn;t help that Hearns had adopted the Topsy hair-cut. He did look silly.

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If you watch the film of that fight, keep your eyes on Hagler as he stays focused during the fire storm and keeps his own eyes on Tommy. Man, that was something.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said earlier:

Hagler was a tough SOB – staying cool under pressure from the Detroit Rag-Doll was just another day out for him.

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Cooney and Morrison both had great hooks.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

"Would bleed if he fell into a full swimming pool--

Great line, that. Henry could hook as could Sonny, and to me the short left of Louis was an actual moment of art (unless on the receiving end), but PURE has to equal Dempsey and Frazier. My impressions are that Dempsey might have had the bigger punch, but JC40 dissecting Frazier is right on point: Everyone knew that hook was coming; no one stopped it.

by Don From Prov on Mar 8, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Henry Cooper's left hook..

wasn;‘t known as Henry’ ‘ammer for nothing. It was tested and had 5 times the acceleration of a Saturn rocket – whatever that was. It only travelled inches also. he made his early living as a plaster that pumped up his left like Einstein’s brain.

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

Henry didn;t bleed as often as the legend has it – check out the record. He bled against Ali because Ali screwed his crosses as they landed.

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefull,

the Saturn Rocket is not a product of Detroit.

That particular brand is not known for its acceleration.
My hook has actually been measured and found to have 1/2 the acceleration of an Edsel.

by Don From Prov on Mar 8, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

The Edsel

That was some ugly mother, no?

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Very ugly but now worth a fortune

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 8, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugly mother?

Yes, like myself.

Worth a fortune? That’s where the Edsel and I part ways.

by Don From Prov on Mar 9, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

It strikes me as odd that that Hank would call his son after some ugly car like that.

I’m confused. I think.

I want a bigger juke-box. Telecasters rule the world - in the right hands. Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!

by Randy Loathsome on Mar 8, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully,

(I can get one post right today).

by Don From Prov on Mar 8, 2010 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

Hope so

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 9, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

The

period was supposed to be highlighted. Ha ha ha. My little editing joke.

Geez. I’m done for the day.

by Don From Prov on Mar 9, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Well, I have promted you from Proof reader to editor.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 9, 2010 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

I'm

looking for production manager.

by Don From Prov on Mar 9, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

So doesn't Pacquiao's left hook to Hatton make the cut?

Or anybody’s list of favorites as well? Or it isn’t technically a textbook left hook?

Btw, this might be the most-commented non-Fight thread post in Badlefthook, don’t you think? As a fanpost, this sure is! =)

by Fj-3 on Mar 13, 2010 4:25 AM EST reply actions  

But it might be worth a double post.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

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