Weights from Arlington: Pacquiao 145 3/4, Clottey 147
by SC on Mar 12, 2010 6:28 PM EST
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Manny Pacquiao came in at a career-high weigh-in of 145 3/4 pounds and Joshua Clottey at the 147-pound limit for tomorrow night's WBA welterweight title fight in Arlington at Cowboys Stadium.
Pacquiao, it must be said, did not look as ripped or cut as he did before his November fight with Miguel Cotto, or really before any of his recent fights. That may mean nothing at all, which is likely, but it could be worth something. We'll find out tomorrow. Clottey looked like he always does, in fantastic shape.
First up on the scales were lightweights Humberto Soto and David Diaz, who will be in the main co-feature tomorrow night. Diaz came in at 134, followed by Soto at 134 1/4. They meet for the vacant WBC lightweight title, which Diaz held before losing it to Pacquiao in 2008.
The PPV opener will be Jose Luis Castillo and Alfonso Gomez in welterweight action. Castillo came in at 144, Gomez at 145. Castillo being three pounds under a weight limit is craziness. John Duddy and Michael "Murder Man" Medina made weight for their middleweight bout.
For those who haven't seen the building setup yet, Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated Tweeted this photo earlier.
Some notes:
- Robert Duvall was there!
- Darren Woodson was a co-host! He was all like, "Where my Cowboy fans at?! Where are my Joshua Clottey fans at?! How 'bout Manny Pacquiao?" Predictably, Clottey's reaction was a distant third. Then Woodson's bit was cut way short.
- Bob Arum all but guaranteed 1 million U.S. PPV buys.
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I also noticed he didn’t looked as ripped as he usually does. Wonder what the deal is?
"And so, as, uh, Heavyweight Champion recognized by nine of the fourteen sanctioning bodies..." -Drederick Tatum, The Simpsons
Has he been cutting weight before?
I’m such a boxing n00b, but my first guess would be he was adding size in training and still didn’t need to cut any water, making him look soft. Hydration does that.
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Supposedly he walks around about 150 pounds so he never really has to cut much weight.
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by SC on Mar 12, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
But would he be cutting less weight for this fight than before?
Or is it more likely that he’s trying to continue to add bulk and it’s not 100% lean muscle that he’s adding on, hence the softer look?
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not sure
He doesn’t look in bad shape or anything. Really when I look at him again, he looks thicker in the abdomen than usual. Like, wider.
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by SC on Mar 12, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Meh. Being ripped is overrated anyway. And besides, looking at that picture above, I’m impressed by how friggin’ solid Pacquiao looks at 145.
Another thing, I’ve always thought that the lighting they use for weigh-ins when they have them indoors is very flattering to the physique.
Yeah the more I look at photos of weigh-ins the lighting definitely makes a difference. Good call.
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by SC on Mar 13, 2010 5:06 AM EST up reply actions
Geez! huge difference in size for Clottey… and 5" reach advantage… I always thought that Clottey is bigger than Pac… but I never thought it would be near Dela Hoya-Pac difference
3" reach advantage (70-67)
Clottey looks taller than his listed 5’8" to me, though.
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by SC on Mar 12, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Did Clottey put he shoes back on before the head to head pics? I remember Manny giving his shoes to the guy next to him. Would explain the height difference.
by Polish Rifle on Mar 12, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
I dont like Pac being nice to his opponent… Usually he batters them slowly… well except for Marquez which they have an almost equal exchanges.
And Barrera, who he just tore through twice.
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by SC on Mar 12, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Im not sure he likes Barrera much, coverage for his pre-fights then was not like recently… He likes Cotto, Diaz and respects Dela Hoya… Look at Morales III, Hatton.
Actually, Roach says that in their rematch that nobody wanted, Manny didn’t go for a finish on Barrera because, he told Freddie, he respected him too much and didn’t want to embarrass him. Of course that blatant cheapshot from Barrera late in that fight might have changed his mind a little.
God, Barrera could be a real dick.
One of my favorite things was when Morales raised Manny’s hand after their third fight. As a Morales fanboy who respects but sort of loathes Barrera, I thought the next year’s Pac-Barrera II fight with the cheapshot sort of showed exactly why I like Erik Morales more than I like Marco Antonio Barrera.
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by SC on Mar 12, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
great post
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Mar 12, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
I understand that Barrera used anti-Indian slurs against Morales? That’s really kind of despicable, especially if you consider the sociological backdrop.
Obviously it’s wrong for anyone to use slurs, but it’s much, much worse if the person using them comes from the social/ethnic class that has benefited from that particular injustice in the society in question. Here in the U.S., we’re conditioned to think of all Mexicans as being working class and having the same ethnic background, but when you realize that Barrera actually grew up affluent, it adds a lot of nuance to that picture.
Good point
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
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by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 12, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Cheap Shot
It Didnt look Cheap to me cause the Ref was just getting in when Barrera Hit Him. Mp Also took a Cheap Shot to JMM in their first fight the 3rd Knockdown whe Marquez was holding on to the Rope and had one Glove on the Canvas MP hit him. they should have Deducted a Point off just like when Barrera hit Marquez when he was own.
To be fair Marquez is still partially supported by the ropes
And if you’re in a mad punching frenzy you proabably don’t stop to think “oh but that glove is touching the canvas, I had better just pop over to my neutral corner now”. Also that punch was a lot softer than the others, as if Manny pulled it as he realised Marquez was going down again.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Mar 12, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Pacquiao is a winner.If you don’t like it,that’s your problem.
Make up all the excuses you want.
by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 12, 2010 7:11 PM EST reply actions
No Excuses
Just like Barrera gave him a Cheap Shot, he did the Same to JMM. Nobody Said MP is not a Winner
Well, Duval being there is a very bad sign for Clottey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 12, 2010 9:08 PM EST reply actions
Clottey laughing is not a good sign either.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 12, 2010 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Final Warning
I have been saying it all along, Clottey is way bigger, not kind of bigger or a little bit bigger. WAY BIGGER! Clottey in an upset but I think it is going to be a war, fight of the year and we are all going to want a rematch. Clottey by SD.
Another thing against Clottey is that he doesn’t know his replacement trainer.
I read an interview with Clottey the other day and he couldn’t even remember the guy’s name!
by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 13, 2010 3:10 AM EST reply actions
I wonder how much wieght they both will gain
Pacquaio doesn’t want to put on too much weight because he doesn’t want to lose his speed (even though it would be hard to slow him down) Clottey however has more room to hydrate
They reckon Pac about 150lbs,Clottey about 160lbs,on fight night.
If Clottey comes in too high,his size will work against him,imo,with Pac’s speed.
by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 13, 2010 4:59 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised
If Pacquiao comes in at exactly the same or very near it.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Mar 13, 2010 5:17 AM EST up reply actions
Pacquiao will prove to be too much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdFmPVyERvw
Pacquiao will be too busy for Clottey. I really believe Clottey is star struck
Nice Basement ^^
Nice video too :)
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Mar 13, 2010 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
Someone mentioned earlier that Pac didn’t look as ripped at the weigh-in as he usually does but i read Roach quoted as saying that mid-week Pac was 144lbs and that he was gonna have two pretty big meals on the weigh-in day to come in at 145 approx.
by Matt (Yorkshire) on Mar 13, 2010 5:02 AM EST reply actions
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