Open Thread: Abner Mares on Fight Night Club
by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT
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Fight Night Club is going live on Fox Sports Net and RingTV.com in about 20 minutes, and since watching Kentucky gradually wear down Cornell isn't going to be much fun, we're going to be here to talk some fights.
The main event pits bantamweight prospect/contender Abner Mares (19-0, 12 KO) against Felipe Almanza (17-15-4, 8 KO). Unless Mares is out there to do a carry job like Victor Ortiz was last month with Hector Alatorre, this won't last long, and the real money will be in seeing the lesser guys on the undercard.
Mares is using this fight to tune up for his May 22 title shot against Yonnhy Perez, which will be an enormous step up in competition for him. Mares does have a few decent wins, but nothing close to Perez, and this fight with Almanza really puts the "club" in Fight Night Club.
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The NCAA tournament has helped me realize
I just don’t like Gus Johnson in any context.
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Made a comment in another thread, but the man is simply awful at announcing.
by Waldo Rastel on Mar 25, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah Cornell just met a real basketball team
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I’m almost surprised this is in HD.
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Well, Fischer’s being honest. When talking about the “dangers” of the main event, he’s noting that Mares could do something like break his hand on Almanza’s forehead or a clash of heads could cause a bad cut.
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Derrick Wilson and Ronny Rios are on the undercard
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That Hopkins-Jones PPV commercial really is good. Unique, sells them as what they truly are (complete rivals that don’t like each other). I mean say what you will about the fight, but that’s a good commercial.
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I'm not sure whether this is better than the old format
Now it’s actual prospects in mismatch fights instead of even fights between mostly non-prospects.
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That guy behind Rios
looked like a younger Mexican Bob Arum. Weird.
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Rios looks a LOT smaller in the ring
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Ronny Rios (9-0, 4 KO) v. Andres Ledesma (15-16-1, 10 KO)
Ledesma has lost five straight and 11 of 12. I love how they try to hype these fights. The only people watching this show get what this is.
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Wow
There are like 3 people in press row. Just a bunch of empty seats. Couldn’t even get the media to come out and cover this one.
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How did that guy make a career out of just being in ads
I swear, he’s been in 15 different ads, but his voice is so distinct that he’s easy to recognize. The only actual acting role I’ve ever seen him in was Breaking Bad.
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who you talking about
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Mar 25, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what the fuck
“Ronny Rios comes out with a little more stamina in the second round.”
? Does he???
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Wait, who has compared Ronny Rios to Oscar de la Hoya? He’s almost nothing like Oscar de la Hoya.
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He's American but tries to appeal to Mexicans and fails?
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not cool
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by battle axe of doom on Mar 25, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s good to see fighters stay busy. Mares is a fighter who actually needs to fight more. He was sidelined for awhile. His fight with Yhonny Perez really has my interest.
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, he could use the tune-up for sure. The only real risk is the injury risk, but it’d be foolish for him to fight Perez after nine months out of the ring. It’s a big step up either way, but getting fresh for the Perez fight is smart, I think.
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by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The skills are obviously there on Mares part. He just hit rough patch which I think is now over. I think the Perez fight will be his coming out party.
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Perez in that fight, but I’m very much looking forward to it. I’m interested to see just how good Mares is, because as a prospect I still like him a lot. Like you said, the talent is clearly there. He can fight.
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by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He's very technically sound and has enough talent
But I think Perez will give him loads of trouble. I think they fought in the amateurs a few times as well.
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I think Mares will beat Perez in a competitive but clear cut fight. Mares speed will be the factor. Except for the getting stopped in the 12th round part, Mares needs to work on his stamina and follow the blueprint Silence Mabuza employed. His speed and high work rate had him up going into the 12th round against Perez. Problem for Silence was he was just about on empty. Perez pressed him and got the stoppage. If Mares can avoid Mabuza’s mistakes while using the same strategy, i see no reason why he can not walk out with the win
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by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Rios. I’m not sure how much I like him, but I like him. His power isn’t anything to write home about, which can be worrisome for a prospect (since most of the guys they’re fighting have no beard), but he seems pretty smart in the ring. His upper body movement sort of reminds me of Juan Manuel Marquez.
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I think he looks more like a young Israel Vazquez with his come forward style
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by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah stylistically he’s not much like Marquez, definitely more like Izzy in that way. The way his upper body moves when he’s throwing is what reminds me of JMM.
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by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Lord, left hook to the body. Goodnight.
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Well at least he closed the show
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And then Doug Fischer steals my words
I guess that means I’m being trite.
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Which Rios you like better?
Ronny or Brandon?
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Brandon
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by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Derrick Wilson (5-1-1, 2 KO) v. Adam Ochoa (2-1, 1 KO)
I really don’t think a lot of Wilson. I just don’t.
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a dude from Weslaco, Texas beat him. Wilson sucks
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by battle axe of doom on Mar 25, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t either. I think his win over Huerta was a fluke. Huerta is the better fighter. Problem for Huerta is his chin sucks. And Wilson manage to get to it.
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by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson is quick. I’ll give him that. And he’s still young. Maybe he’ll grow on me. Maybe. Doubt it, though
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by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
He’s got a lot of speed. My feeling is that’s about all he has.
Also he looked good for a round last time I saw him, too, then he fell apart. So let’s see if he does that here, because this Ochoa kid doesn’t seem like a total patsy or anything. (Yet.)
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by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson fights like a young Terry Norris. Without the power or stamina Norris had.
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by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Or the awesome fade
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Hopefully for him without the chin as well
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by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson really is landing some good shots so far. But he hasn’t even shaken Ochoa, which tells me a lot about Huerta’s chin, maybe.
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I’m looking for Wilson to struggle now. He threw a lot of energy into those two rounds, Ochoa has shown a little bit of skill himself, and Wilson’s mouth is wide open now.
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How is Wilson not hurting this guy? He’s landed hard, good shots to the head and the body.
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He doesn't get his weight behind the punches
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He's also slapping with a lot of them
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Ochoa looks like one of them fighters who will pick up some losses early in his career but will eventually turn into a good fighter. He’s young and is not without skill
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by Violent Demise on Mar 25, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah he’s done some nice work. If these guys were just on their own and I could sign Wilson for $50K or Ochoa for $25K, I’d sign Ochoa.
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by Scott Christ on Mar 26, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I got it. Finally. Wilson reminded me of a certain fighter. But i just couldn’t remember. Now i do. He fight, looks and seems to have the same pros and cons as Mike Oliver. I would be surprise if he has a similar career.
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprise I mean
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Good call
Very good call. Even looks similar.
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It’s the braids. But same speed. Not much power. Won’t go to far
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
What?
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Unexpected draw
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Ochoa did some good things. But I didn’t think he did that good.
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t know — Ochoa really did some good work in there which Dougie and what’s his balls didn’t call at all, and of course they aren’t going to show highlights of Ochoa doing anything.
I still don’t think Wilson should have had anything less than a 39-37 win.
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Sucks for Wilson. Good for Ochoa. Result won’t hurt either fighter
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
They'll both just keep fighting on Fight Night Club anyway.
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Till Wilson gets a slot on some Golden Boy fighter PPV and gets knocked out
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
They have Almanza listed at 19-5-3 (9)
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Fisher just said he had a 500 record
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
That was nice
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
yeah this is what I expected
Almanza’s done, and Mares got some decent work in. Live TV sparring basically, but now he’s in shape and ready to go.
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My thoughts exactly. Glad he didn’t injure himself. Mares-Perez is a must watch
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by Violent Demise on Mar 26, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn, I was hoping for another kicking DQ
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