Why Francisco Lorenzo is the Real Villain of Dirrell-Abraham

Yeah. Good post, and exactly right.

Aside from the obvious after effects, as soon as the punch landed I knew Andre was in serious trouble. After a beat, he held his forehead from being clocked on the jaw, that was an obvious sign of a severe concussion. It feels like your brain is on fire and trying to leap out of your forehead.

So after watching the AA KO a number of times, Dirrell obviously slips, and AA takes advantage of it by taking a cheap shot on Dirrell while he can’t defend himself. I think that AA needs to be punished for this obvious lapse in judgment. My proposal is that AA gets docked a point for an intentional DQ and all other intentional DQs should be treated in a similar fashion.

but jesus, what awful luck Dirrell has. First the froch fight, now he clearly gets severely concussed through no fault of his own…I hope he can bounce back, cause he’s clearly a special fighter.

Cole is the last ref I would want if I was fighting, except for maybe that guy who kept telling Andrade to go back to his corner when he KO’d Bute. It seems like a slip is a knock down and a knock down is a slip to Cole. Then the doctor applying pressure to Abraham’s cut for an unusually long time. Weird stuff.

Dirrell was looking awesome though! I wish he had fought more aggressively like that against Froch.

Thanks for this post. I missed the fight at a hotel, and this gives me a clearer picture of what happened.

OK, what about the horrible ringside physicians? First, they try to HEAL Abrahams cut by applying pressure for about 30 secs (or maybe more), then they take their sweet time in getting Dirrell to the hospital. 20 mins after the fight, one of these joke “doctors” was in the dressing room talking to Jim Gray about the possibility of “bleeding on the brain”…for gods sake it he really thought that was a possibilty, shouldn’t he have more of a sense of urgency and get the guy on a stretcher and immediately to the emergency ward??

Cole is a disgrace. Never anywhere near position. Frankly, in addition to being incompetent and corrupt, I think he is a coward who is afraid to be anywhere near a punch unless the guys are under 140 lbs.

As for how he got called up for the fight, this was an immediate red flag that something sketchy was happening. Cole stopped the fight to check Abraham’s cut as soon as Abraham caught Andre in the corner with a pair of punches, and when Andre was looking gassed. I was rooting for Andre to win the fight and predicted that he would, but that was a pretty obvious attempt to stop an momentum swing and give Andre a breather.

Than in the Froch fight. He was clearly ahead, he was not going to leave any questions unanswered at the end of this fight.
Unfortunately (and through no fault of his own) in my opinion, that’s exactly what happened. Questions were left unanswered… AD did seem to be getting tired and AA was still dangerous. Still, his health is what’s important here. Let’s hope he’s OK.

What I didn’t like is that AA wasn’t even concerned in how he was…

I mean… boxing is a dangerous sport and no matter what… at the end of the day you don’t want to end someones career with a clear foul…

So which corner did Dirrell slip in, because it was not one of the neutral white ones (I remember it being red….). Anyways it looked like he slipped at a very similar place earlier in the fight. Would be crazy if they intentionally left water on that logo and hoped for AA to get Dirrell in that position. Have him go off-balance then catch him. This is a completely crazy theory but this is boxing, and people have done far worse with far less on the line…..

Well I finally got around to watching last week’s fights on the old Tivo. Some real crazy stuff. I know this is old news, but here’s what I thought about this fight.

1. Dirrell was not acting. Anyone who actually thinks this, get real. He got hit right on the jaw by one of the biggest punchers in the sport. The delayed reaction is completely normal. Montell Griffin did exactly the same thing when he was hit by Roy Jones.

2. The DQ was obviously the right call. You just can’t let stuff like that happen, it’s too dangerous. Cole still sucks though, and was already well on his way to messing up the fight at the time of the stoppage.

3. I don’t think this makes Abraham some sort of evil person. Yeah he had a full second to notice Dirrell on the canvas, but a full second isn’t that long a period of time in the heat of a moment during a competitive sport. I think it’s patently silly to assume he had some sort of conscious malicious thought. The reason why the DQ rule exists is for deterrence, not because everyone who violates it is necessarily acting “intentionally,” even though they call it an “intentional foul.” Because the consequences of getting it wrong are potentially so awful, we impose a duty on fighters to exercise a difficult level of restraint. “If you only punish men enough, the weather will improve.” But Abraham, like Roy Jones and Billy Dib and everyone else who’s violated this rule, was only negligent, not malicious.

4. Relatedly, I think the fact that Dirrell constantly ducks down, wobbles around, leans over, etc. may have contributed to what happened to him. (Note: I do NOT think this means Dirrell deserved to get clocked, nor do I think it excuses Abraham.) But the fact is that there were at least a half-dozen other times in the fight where Abraham was winging low punches in order to get at Dirrell’s head because Dirrell’s head was at Abraham’s waist. It probably made him accustomed to punching low in a way that removed some of his natural inhibitions later in the bout.

5. Abraham’s post-fight comments were classless but I think they may be getting overblown a bit. It was immediately after his first loss as a pro, he had just seen the replay for the first time, and he was talking to Jim Gray. I’ve seen people get just as nasty and riled up immediately after losing a video game, with Jim Gray not in the room. Now, if he repeats the same sentiments now after having had time to think about it, then I will have a much more negative reaction to the matter.

6. Abraham’s corner did not throw water onto the canvas on purpose. Come on now.