Joshua Clottey: What He Is and What He Isn't
A lot of times in boxing, hype is just hype. And in a lot of ways, that rings very true this week for Joshua Clottey, who in just four days will share the ring with Manny Pacquiao in the biggest, richest and most important fight of his career.
Truth be told, the fight hasn't generated the usual big fight buzz. This is nowhere near what we saw for both of Pacquiao's 2009 fights, against Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. Those were massive events. This fight -- called "The Event," no less -- just isn't that sort of matchup, and there's a big reason for that.
The casual fans don't know who Joshua Clottey is. The mainstream writers and TV talking heads that don't really know boxing past a few names don't know who Joshua Clottey is, either. They're either counting him out, doing their ignorant "Who is THIS bum?" jive talk, or they're admitting that they don't really care about this fight.
That affords Top Rank, HBO and the other people responsible for selling this fight the opportunity to exaggerate some of Clottey's assets, if not flat-out lie about what he is as a fighter. Top Rank's 30-second TV spot calls Clottey a "devastating brawler." If you're a Comcast customer, you can go into your On Demand menu and find the Ghana-born New Yorker being hyped as a big-punching action star.
These things are just not true.
Of course, that's not to say that Clottey (35-3, 20 KO) isn't a challenge for Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KO). He is an elite-level welterweight, a physically strong, defensively excellent, rugged and extremely durable fighter who will almost certainly be the biggest man (weight-wise) that Pacquiao has ever fought. Clottey likely will come into the ring anywhere from 156 to 160 pounds. Pacquiao has never weighed over 149 once he's actually stepped into the ring for fight night.
But for the genuinely curious, let's tell the truth about Joshua Clottey and what kind of fighter he is.
Past Big Fights
Clottey, 32, has had more hard luck than good or bad luck in his career. He's had a few chances to really emerge as a major player in the welterweight division, and while you can argue he took advantage in all three of his biggest fights, he officially went just 1-2 in those bouts. (His first loss in 1999 to Carlos Baldomir is widely accepted as having been a robbery disqualification. Clottey was leading on the cards at the time the referee called it off.)
The first came against Antonio Margarito in December 2006. Margarito was seen by many as a fierce, unstoppable force, but Clottey won a toe-to-toe battle early on in that fight, before suffering injuries to both hands that took him out of the contest. Judges' scorecards for that fight were wide (116-112 twice and an awful 118-109 card), but it was Clottey who generated a lot of discussion from his performance that night.
Almost two years later, after running through overmatched competition, Clottey got another shot at the big-time, meeting Zab Judah in a Boxing After Dark main event for the vacant IBF welterweight title. Judah looked to start fast, and as usual faded fairly quickly. As Clottey began to take over the fight, a punch cut Judah. Last anyone knew, Judah and his father/trainer Yoel will claim a headbutt opened the gash that had Judah pull out after nine rounds. Clottey won a well-earned technical decision.
10 months later, Clottey met Miguel Cotto. It was pretty well-known that Cotto had to beat Clottey, and then he was looking at a fight with Manny Pacquiao for late in 2009. Cotto escaped with a very narrow victory in a rough-and-tumble fight that saw Clottey knocked down on a jab in the first round, and then later bodyslammed in the corner by the Puerto Rican. A bad cut half-blinded Cotto, and the two both fought hard for most of the night.
Those who feel Cotto deserved the win will point to Clottey's single terrible habit: he gives rounds away. I scored the fight 114-113 for Cotto, personally, and if Clottey hadn't given a couple of rounds to Miguel, it would have been a different story on my card, too.
Power?
A lot of folks are talking about Clottey's power. I don't know if it's a general misconception or owes to the hype being put out there right now, but it's not near what it's being made out to be. Clottey is not Paul Malignaggi or Ivan Calderon. He can punch a little. But Clottey is nowhere near a one-punch KO artist, and really his power is more something the other fighter has to respect rather than something they need to fear.
The 1999 fight with Baldomir was really the first time Clottey faced a legitimate opponent, and after that debacle he faced a good amount of straight-up bums again. A lot of Clottey's stoppage wins are negligible when talking about an opponent like Pacquiao; frankly, a lot of Clottey's record is fairly meaningless. That goes for a lot of guys, but Clottey's record is very heavily padded in the early days.
Clottey, to be honest, only has one notable stoppage win on his entire sheet. That came in 2008 against Jose Luis Cruz, and some argued that that stoppage was a bit premature. It's Clottey's only stoppage win in the last 5 1/2 years, though to be fair, a lesser-regarded warrior than the late Diego "Chico" Corrales might have been saved by a referee during the beating Clottey gave him in 2007.
Excitement?
I wouldn't go so far as to call Joshua Clottey boring, but he's not thrilling by any stretch of the imagination. He keeps his hands up and is often content to wait, wait, wait for counter-punching opportunities. He's promising to be aggressive against Pacquiao, but it would be well out of the norm for him to actually come looking to pressure Pacquiao, so even if he starts out with that, expect him to return to what he's known for the first 15 years of his professional boxing career. "Deliberate" might be the best term to describe Clottey's offensive pace.
But...
I realize that this might sound like a bunch of reasons to count Clottey out, or at least some reasons that might temper your expectations. But there's also the fact that Clottey will on occasion really start fighting hard. He did it some against Cotto, and did it against Judah.
Judah, a fast lefty with good movement, is the only guy he's been in with that even closely compares to Pacquiao, and the 2010 Manny and 2008 Zab aren't that much alike. For one thing, I can't see Manny getting weary, frustrated and quit-happy the way Judah did. Clottey will have to really beat Pacquiao to beat him. For another thing, Judah just doesn't have Pacquiao's offensive firepower, and nobody really fights quite like Pacquiao. He's hard to duplicate.
Clottey can fight, and he's more than just a warm body to put in there with Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao is a major favorite and deserves to be one. But don't ignore Clottey or count him out. If Pacquiao and Freddie Roach are looking past Clottey, they could find themselves in their first real fight since the rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in 2008.
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SC I was at the Margarito v Clottey fight and I was so impressed with this guy. He was beating Marg to the punch and every hit was thunderous which is probably why he was injured. Marg was a perfect opponent for him. Here’s a guy who just comes forward with the philosophy of: I’ll take two or three of yours to give you one or two of mine.
Having said that, I think he may get punished by Pac, especially in the body. And then just the way he fades during the fight is going to make it worst for him. I just don’t see this being a good outing for him.
Every fighter has a game plan until he get's punched in the mouth.
-Mike
Good stuff, SC
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Mar 9, 2010 8:49 AM EST reply actions
I have low expectations but I enjoy watching Pacquiao’s skills in the ring. There’s always that chance that just maybe, just maybe Clottey will actually take this opportunity very seriously and shock the boxing world.
No. whatever, it will be cool watching Manny imitate the Tazmanian Devil.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
I just don’t think Clottey’s right hand is up to snuff enough to beat the Pacman, he’s too left hand happy. I mean he has a good right, don’t get me wrong; but he needs the other guy to cooperate a little bit in order to land it, and Pac won’t be there to receive it.
Clottey really steps into his lead right hand.
I don’t think that as a strategy it’s going to prove effective against a whirling Manny simply because the accuracy will be way down. The couple of fights I’ve seen of Clottey tell me he’s going to get beat up pretty badly, but he certainly is tough enough to go the distance.
It all comes down to speed. The only way to minimize Manny’s whirling style is to constantly be backing up (or do whatever it is JMM does…), and I’m not convinced Clottey uses backward movement as much as impenetrable blocking to set up his counter-punches.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
I think
this was a very fair and accurate assessment of Clottey.
He remains a “don’t count him out, but. …” type of fighter.
Clottey
Might weigh around 160 fight night and Pac will weigh around 147 and Pac will prolly KO Clottey. Pac’s gives difficult angles and sheer workrate is going to tire Clottey. I think Pac has an underrated chin and don’t see any problems coming from the Ghanaian’s “power.” Even though Pac is a very action oriented fighter, Clottey’s best chance of winning is to make this a mind-numbingly boring fight. Having said that, it’s going to be really hard for Clottey to control the action, since he will be simply trying to react to Pac’s actions. Pac’s too good for this fight and I can’t see any way that Clottey wins this fight on paper. However, fights aren’t fought on paper….
I too see almost no way that Clottey can control this fight
And as has been made clear his power proabably isn’t enough to seriously worry Pacquiao, after all Cotto’s didn’t and, while he is an accumulative puncher, he is certainly no slouch in that department, better than Clottey anyway.
I can’t seem to make up my mind about whether Pacquiao can KO Clottey, I think he hits harder and more accurately than anyone Clottey has ever faced before, and that Clottey’s “granite chin” is perhaps only believed in because he hasn’t faced very big hitters in his career. Right now I am leaning towards Pacquiao being given so many chances to completely dictate the action while Clottey is inactive (or just too slow!) that he will catch him with one of those perfect shots and floor him hard.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Mar 9, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about a true KO,
but I do think this fight has a great chance to end via TKO or referee stoppage. Clottey will just put up the shields and try to ride out rounds if Manny is allowed to dictate the fight (which is pretty likely) in much the same way Cotto just ran away for like 2-3 rounds, prompting Kenny to step in.
If there’s a stoppage, it’ll be somewhere in the 7-9 rounds. Pacquiao will have exhausted Clottey and there won’t be much in the way of recourse for The Grandmaster (Hitter?) by then.
Still, Clottey might have figured out a run-and-gun style, and if he has then this could be a really interesting match.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Clottey
has all the tools. Hes bigger, hard to hit, great chin – etc. His trainer knows Pac man and that counts for something. I dont think Cotto was as bad as Pac made him look. He had a bad camp and has never been the same fighter he was. Clottey’s fight with Cotto was Clottey’s to lose by the 10th, but he couldnt finish. So often he just disappeared for long spells… and its not because of his fitness. If he can channel his inner Buster Douglas, and come out aggressive without giving Manny a chance to settle in, he could pull off a huge (bigger?) upset. With an opportunity like this in front of him, and Manny being distracted by elections/partying/hype – I think Clottey has a shot. The only thing keeping him from being the top guy everyone says he can be is his mindset.
great chin
Is it? Which fights do you base this assumption upon?
Hes bigger
Only by one and a half inches, and three inches of reach. He’s not really so much bigger that it will be noticably to his advantage IMO. Also I would definitely coinsider Pacquiao the more powerful puncher, even at 147.
His trainer knows Pac man
I don’t really know about Clottey’s trainer but I find it hard to believe that a training advantage should be given to him when Pacquiao has the Roach!
Clottey will make Pac look bad, because thats what he does
I actually think that, while Clottey’s covering up, Pacquiao will have so many opportunites to show off his tremendous hand speed that he will look good, very good in fact
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Mar 9, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Clottey goes the distance. Even Roach thought this fight would go the distance.
Clottey will likely weigh 160 on fight night. And is a RIPPED 160. Very fit guy.
His trainer used to corner Pac. Was part of his camp for a long time.
Clottey makes everyone look bad. He fights a frusterating style. Its a big part of why no one wants to fight him. Even if you beat him, it dosent help you. Pac is just stuck without any other options.
Do I think Josh will win? No. Do I think he has a chance? Yes – IF he pulls a Buster Douglas and gets hyper focused/nothing to lose aggressive. There were parts of the Cotto fight here he put it in cruise and its why he lost.
Clottey always seems to put it on cruise control
for long stretches in his fights. I mean, even when he’s active it’s not an inspiring pace.
If Clottey just tries to cover up and counter the whole night, Pacquiao is going to systematically dismantle him to the same degree he did Oscar and Cotto. The only guy in recent history to give Manny any trouble is Marquez, and Marquez had the hand-speed to counter before Manny-motion took effect. Not sure Clottey can replicate that particular gameplan, and if there’s no way to deter Manny from his established gameplan, you’re going to get put down hard.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Clottey makes everyone look bad. He fights a frusterating style. Its a big part of why no one wants to fight him.
Margarito fought him. Judah fought him. Cotto fought him. Mosley was ready to go and then HBO pulled the plug on that fight. Now Pacquiao’s fighting him. Who else needs to fight him?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Clottey goes the distance.
Sure, but I think this is more to do with his defense than his chin and that against Pacquiao it may well be a whole different story.
Clottey will likely weigh 160 on fight night. And is a RIPPED 160. Very fit guy.
And? Sure he is ripped but his KO percentage is only 51% and his height and reach shouldn’t make too much of a difference seeing as they are quite small advantages and Pacquiao’s footwork will negate them.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I've said since the night of the fight
that Ricky Hatton had the best gameplan against Manny. Stand in the pocket and hit him as hard as you can while he’s coming in. Don’t worry too much about defense, make the fight a true slug-fest. Manny’s just ‘stupid’ enough that he’ll oblige, making most high-level fights a relative toss-up (70/30 odds or something like that).
Clottey might just stand in front of him for 2-3 rounds and exchange. Not saying it’s a great idea, but it might end up being better than the last half dozen guys who have faced Manny.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
The Dallas newspaper today said that Pacman arrived in a private p lane loaded with an entourage of 113 people. Clottey, on the other hand, flew commercial to Dallas, with only 3 other people. The four of them took a cab to their hotel. This sure tells a lot about these two.
It tells us that one of them is really rich!
And a bit foolish with that cash of his!
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Mar 10, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions

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