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Fight Preview: David Haye v. John Ruiz

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Since the moment it was signed, I've been one of the minority (but a vocal minority, at that) touting Saturday's WBA heavyweight title fight between David Haye and John Ruiz as an upset in the making, a fight that Haye would absolutely be foolish to look past.

What I'm saying is not that John Ruiz is a great fighter, or that he ever was. He's good, highly competent at the least. He's also tough. The only guy to ever stop him was David Tua, and that was so long ago it might not have even happened, other than it gives the Tua fanboys something to YouTube when they need a fix. To put it in perspective, when Tua and Ruiz fought, Tua was 23 years old. Ruiz was 24. Ruiz was still five years away from claiming his first major heavyweight title, when he beat Evander Holyfield in 2001.

Ruiz, now 37, has eight losses on his record. They are:

  1. Sergei Kobozev, 1993, SD-10. This was at cruiserweight.
  2. Danell Nicholson, 1994, SD-12.
  3. David Tua, 1996, KO-1. I think we've been over how much I believe you can read into first round knockouts. Look, I'm not saying that the Tua KO of Ruiz wasn't legit. Obviously it was. Tua was a monster puncher and he caught Ruiz cold, hard and fast. But it was 14 years ago.
  4. Evander Holyfield, 2000, UD-12. Close fight.
  5. Roy Jones Jr., 2003, UD-12. Not a close fight.
  6. Nikolai Valuev, 2005, MD-12. I think Ruiz deserved the W.
  7. Ruslan Chagaev, 2006, SD-12. Close fight.
  8. Nikolai Valuev, 2008, UD-12. Again, I thought Ruiz deserved the W.

If you combine all three scorecards from every one of Ruiz's losses to Kobozev, Nicholson, Holyfield, Valuev, Chagaev and again to Valuev, you come out with an average scorecard of 112-110 against Ruiz. That's how close these fights were on the cards. And we're talking about six fights, half of them in Germany against Sauerland and Universum fighters.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

For my money, Ruiz did more against Valuev in either of his two fights than Haye really did to the Russian giant when he snatched the WBA strap from his hairy clutches and hopefully saved us from more Integrated Sports PPVs where Col. Bob Sheridan extols Valuev's talents, as if the people watching don't know who he is.

I'm not trying to discount Haye. David is the favorite and he should be. I mean, run down the checklist, and it favors Haye almost all the way.

  • Power? Haye.
  • Speed? Haye.
  • Wear and tear (lack thereof)? Haye.
  • Youth? Haye.
  • Height? Haye.
  • Reach? Hey! It's even.

About the only thing Ruiz can really count in his favor would be experience, which is nice and all but has a way of turning into oldness when 38 and the other guy's 29, and the fact that he's faced a lot of top heavyweights over the years, whereas Haye's best wins are still at cruiserweight, and will still be at cruiserweight even if he beats Ruiz.

It's definitely the best test Haye has had as a heavyweight. Tomasz Bonin was nothing, Monte Barrett was on the very last set of legs his career was going to give him, and Valuev isn't so much a heavyweight fighter as a puzzle for opposing fighters to solve.

Ruiz is a legit heavyweight, a big guy, stronger than he often gets credit for, a puncher surely good enough that questions of Haye's chinniness are relevant for this fight.

Honestly, I don't worry that Haye is too cocky, or that he'll be looking past Ruiz. For all his boisterousness, Haye is no dummy. He talked of knocking out Valuev, but instead he was smart (boring as it was) and stayed away from the big galoot. He's a superior athlete, every bit as good a boxer as Ruiz, and he has far more weapons in his arsenal. He's got legitimate power in both hands (I don't think there's a fighter in the division he can't knock out, and I include creaky old Vitali Klitschko in that), and most importantly, tremendous speed for the division.

And I see the speed being the key to the Haye victory. Ruiz is a smart boxer, can punch some, and I think he'll give Haye some good looks early. But I lean toward David because of the speed. You know who the last guy Ruiz faced that was notably fast? Roy Jones Jr., in 2003. Since then, he's fought Hasim Rahman, Fres Oquendo, Andrew Golota, James Toney, Valuev, Chagaev, Otis Tisdale, Jameel McCline, Valuev again, and Adnan Serin. Not exactly the fastest bunch of guys in the game.

I still think John Ruiz has a very legitimate chance, and I'm very interested in seeing how this fight plays out. But I also think David Haye knows exactly what's on the line here, and how disastrous a loss to old John Ruiz of all the damned people would be for his career. He'll be focused, he'll be smart, and he'll get Ruiz out inside the distance. Haye TKO-10

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I can also see Haye winning, although I reckon it might be an earlier stoppage.

I just reckon his speed and power are going to be a bit too much for Ruiz who, although a very strong guy with an excellent chin, hasn’t fought anyone with the power and the precision of Haye in the past decade. I think David’s ability to work a guy out (see the Mormeck fight), and actually be patient when he has to, will see him start relatively slowly and end up getting Ruiz out of there between rounds 6 and 8.

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by Oli Goldstein on Apr 1, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

One result you can bet your life you won’t see is “Ruiz UD.” John would have to damn near kill Haye, knocking him down in every other round, to get all three of these scorecards.

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by jrok on Apr 1, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

ruiz also didn’t win a round vs toney….

Sergei Kobozev is a really sad story btw. he was killed by the russian mob in his prime. he would have been a world champion.

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by sonofapsycho on Apr 1, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

ruiz also didn’t win a round vs toney….

Toney also couldn’t pass a drug test. He’s good at career.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 1, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh? good at career?

and im the sure the steroids in james’ lard ass helped him beat the snot out of ruiz every round…

it wasn’t his lack of 1000x times more skill or anything at all.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
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by sonofapsycho on Apr 1, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So as long as you’re fat, it’s OK to cheat.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 1, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol good lord.

take the blinders off for 2 seconds once in a while.

a little fat, pudgy tub of a goo like james toney was in the fight very clearly did not benefit by any steroid he took.

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-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Apr 1, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I know what you’re saying. I was pissing around. But whether or not he benefited from it doesn’t matter. He failed a post-fight drug test and the win doesn’t count, which is why I don’t care about it. Fatty Toney couldn’t be bothered to follow the rules, or at least be smart enough to not get caught (which isn’t hard, apparently).

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by Scott Christ on Apr 1, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yes, a focused Toney who gives a crap beats Ruiz 11 times out of 10. That’s a style of fighter I don’t think Ruiz could have ever done dick against.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 1, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was prescribed to him. the whole positive test, result change and suspension was a bit of bullshit imo

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by sonofapsycho on Apr 1, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He claims it was prescribed for an injury. I have my doubts, and given the era of sports we’re in, I think that’s understandable. The fact that he tested positive for steroids again later sort of hurts his case, too, I’d say.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 1, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was prescribed steriods for about 8 years on and off. it did more damage than good. it did no good actually. the shit he was taking im sure was prescribed to him as an anti inflammatory.

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by sonofapsycho on Apr 1, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’ve had similar stuff for tendinitis in my shoulder. I do not rule out that he was prescribed the steroids. I don’t know if he was or wasn’t. I don’t know if they helped him or not. I do know he’s a lot more talented than Ruiz ever was, and we certainly agree there.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 1, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an athlete who gets drugs tested every know and then

I can tell you that the fact that a drug was given to you on prescription is never accepted as a viable excuse, unless the governing body has agreed on the advice of your doctor to allow that particular drug, and that must be done well in advance of any test.

This is made abundantly clear by the testers and all the athletes I know check any medication they are put on religiously, and they are just amateurs, their careers and livlihoods don’t rest upon their sports.

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by Drunken cutman on Apr 2, 2010 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got Haye by SD

Haye’s been super tentative at heavyweight. He knows he has a crappy chin, and he doesn’t want it to get cracked. On one hand, I can see him being more aggressive in this fight because there’s no way John Ruiz punches harder than Jean Marc Mormeck or Enzo Maccaranelli, but on the other hand, Mormeck put him down, and I don’t think he even wants to take the risk. With a low output, I can see Ruiz outlanding (but not outboxing) him in a number of rounds and possibly even stealing one of the cards.

The best case scenario would be that Ruiz comes out more aggressive like he has been, and Haye isn’t scared of Ruiz’s power so he fights like he did against Fragomeni. If that happens, this could actually be a cracking fight, and one in which Haye can score a mid- to late-rounds knockout.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 1, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I have Haye KO-6

I hope so anyway, I’m going to Manchester for this one.

Problem is, our driver has choked on us, and now we have a spare ticket but no way of getting there.

Any British guys fancy going? As an exchange for a free ticket, you have to get 4 of us there, from Cambridge. Any takers?!!

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by Chaos100 on Apr 1, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Tickets gone party people !

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by bazzlad on Apr 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Great Prediction SC

Congrats mate , on the money!

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by JC40 on Apr 3, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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