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According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Ali Funeka has tested positive for an illegal diuretic after his bout with Joan Guzman. It's somewhat ironic, as Guzman came in well over weight for the fight. Fuenka will be facing a suspension in Nevada, and will likely need to forfeit part of his purse.

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I don’t know if “PED” is the best way to describe this without any context, Brick. The diuretic could have simply been used to help him boil down his weight. Not all banned substances “enhance performance,” some are shortcuts to making weight.

I figure you are just going to accuse me of using semantics, but I actually think the discussion of PEDs is much too vague right now, with people using generalizations to confuse matters. Being specific is part of fighting the beast.

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by jrok on Apr 11, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

You're right

changed it

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by Brickhaus on Apr 11, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a fair point.

In some other sports, the reason why diuretics are banned is that they are often used to avoid detection of other PEDs. If someone tests positive for a diuretic in football, you can probably assume they used it to mask something else, seeing as how you don’t have to make weight in football.

Of course, in boxing, you do need to make weight, so you can’t assume it was used to mask a PED. It’s still illegal, of course, but doesn’t look quite as bad.

by taco pal on Apr 11, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t diuretics also make you dangerously dehydrated if taken along with a stringent workout regimen?

by Waldo Rastel on Apr 11, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. That particular aspect of diuretics, however, is not exactly “performance enhancing.” If anything, it’s the opposite.

by taco pal on Apr 11, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait so since Guzman forfeited his purse too, where does all of the money from the fight go? Sanctioning bodies?

by Waldo Rastel on Apr 11, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

To the NSAC

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by Brickhaus on Apr 11, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

if funeka had won, he surely would have been stripped of his title right?

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by battle axe of doom on Apr 11, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be changed to a NC most likely, so yes.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 11, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

so one guy tried his hardest to lose the weight and eventually resulted to cheating to do so, while the guy basically cheated and didn’t even bother to lose the weight? what a mess…

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by battle axe of doom on Apr 11, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

resorted*

Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD

by battle axe of doom on Apr 11, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Apr 11, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a good and meaningful fight.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 11, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

What was?

Funeka-Guzman II? Guzman took away all the meaning of that fight when he came in cheating. And now, for Funeka, this…

by Fj-3 on Apr 12, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm detector… malfunctioning….

by taco pal on Apr 12, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah okay

I didn’t know this device had a hesitation feature. =)

by Fj-3 on Apr 12, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

so if funeka would have actually won the fight he probably would have been stripped of the belt and the fight called a no contest.

its just not meant to be, ali

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by sonofapsycho on Apr 12, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Not at 135.

He could still probably be quite handy at 140. Not like #1-4 handy, but almost certainly top-10.

Now, Tweek, boxing is a Man sport. There is nothing in the world more Man than boxing. It is Man at his most Man. So when you spar with Ned here, just dig deep into that most Man part of you. (Uncle Jimbo, South Park: Tweek vs Craig)

by Chaos100 on Apr 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could make some interesting fights there

But he probably stood a better chance of being good in the much weaker lightweight division.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 12, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually they let the decision stand if both guys were sanctioned

See, e.g., Toney-Batchelder, which is still a win because both guys flunked their drug tests.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 12, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he wouldn't have been able to keep the belt.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 12, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Refrains from making a "shame, he could have used it to pop out some veins" gag.

Oh fuck, no I didn’t…..

Now, Tweek, boxing is a Man sport. There is nothing in the world more Man than boxing. It is Man at his most Man. So when you spar with Ned here, just dig deep into that most Man part of you. (Uncle Jimbo, South Park: Tweek vs Craig)

by Chaos100 on Apr 12, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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