Ricardo Mayorga being Ricardo Mayorga at a NYC presser for his Shine MMA fight with Din Thomas.

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Mayorga looking fat.

He better hope Din stands up with him for a while.

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by lcollins1 on Apr 16, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions

The skillsets are far more lopsided, on paper in favor of Mayorga,

but the thing that MMA has proven time and again is that a truly massive striking advantage doesn’t get a chance to breathe against a solid grappling advantage. So while, in MMA terms Mayorga may have 10/10 hand strikes, he’s probably got 2/10 grappling and Thomas is likely 5/10 in striking with 6/10 grappling.

It’s funny how MMA works. You can’t express the vicious striking without at least solid grappling defense. Otherwise you get flattened and pummeled into submission.

Should be interesting and fun, though.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Apr 16, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions

mayorga is definetly superior with hand strikes but his overall striking arsenal is very limited when you factor in kicks, knees, and elbows

by montiel3 on Apr 17, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, without question Mayorga is purely one-dimensional.

The single easiest skill to train up to proficiency in MMA is handstrikes, but it’s also the most difficult of all the striking techniques to master for a plethora of reasons. Transitions (wrestling, not jiu-jitsu) are the hardest part to learn. This is why the great strikers come in and get decimated so many times in MMA (even the muay-thai kickboxers get whaled).

Learning how to do an arm bar or a rear naked choke is pretty simple, and learning how to defend those attacks is also pretty straightforward. But learning how to move from one position to the next is the most difficult (and most important) component of MMA, bar none.

But ultimately, if you can have only one form of striking in your arsenal, you have to go with classic boxing.

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by misterjonez on Apr 17, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Very interesting

You really seem to know you stuff when it comes to MMA.

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Apr 18, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions

It's my favorite sport, and I've been watching it

since the first UFC came out on VHS. Got banned over at BloodyElbow for some ludicrous reason (had been a stand-up member of the community without as much as a stern word in like two years of commenting, then woke up one day and a bunch to the ban notification and a bunch of comments deleted).

I’m a little bit biased, or at least I was since I wrestled in high school, but the bias has been proven over and over again in the progression of the sport, that wrestling is the most important part of the game. A great boxer with mediocre wrestling can be hell on his opponents. But a fairly good wrestler is more than capable of simple keeping the fight wherever his opponent doesn’t want it. I guess it’s kind of like great footwork and speed in boxing, just another expression of controlling the terrain of the fight. Manny doesn’t engage in slugfests unless he wants to, because he determines where and when the fight will happen. Same with wrestling transitions in MMA.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Apr 19, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Banned huh?

That a great shame, I would hate to be banned from BLH.

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Apr 21, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Mayorga has that punch-elbow follow through that he's gotten away with a few times in boxing

only it’s legal in MMA. It will be interesting to see if Thomas gets close enough for him to use it.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice point.

I remember when Brock Lesnar fought Randy Couture he did something like that, throwing straight punches and finishing with the elbow a couple of times. He actually connected with one and wobbled Couture.

If you can effectively execute that strike, it increases your effective range from purely boxing range (medium/long) to near clinch range (short). Dirty boxing is incredibly effective in a cage, but only if you’re good enough at wrestling to pin your opponent to the fence. Check out Shane Carwin vs. Frank Mir for a brilliant example of how to execute this (simultaneously it’s a great example that passivity equals death in MMA).

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Apr 21, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Just another hype job to sell tickets.

I’ll be suprised to see Mayorga make it past the 1st rd. Sure he’s got a puncher’s chance but we’ve seen this act before in just about every fight of his.

I am curious though as to what type of ‘chop’ he hit Din with there. It sure seemed to back Din up, maybe it was similar to one of those Bruce Lee punches where it’s inches away from the opponent.

On a side note, who the hell spells “Dean” as “Din”?

by SmittytheCutman on Apr 16, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions

haha that chop almost knocked him out

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by J Theory on Apr 16, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions

It was surely just a work? The ring leader who kept whooping and hollering most likely orchestrated the whole thing

by LtfcPete on Apr 16, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions

First gif...

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.

by Sam Cupitt on Apr 16, 2010 2:37 AM EDT reply actions