Open Thread: Friday Night Fights and Shobox
Two back-to-back boxing shows tonight on American TV, with Friday Night Fights starting at 9pm EDT on ESPN2 and Shobox at 11pm EDT on Showtime.
On Friday Night Fights, former IBF welterweight title challenger Delvin Rodriguez (24-4-2, 14 KO) faces former junior welterweight contender Mike Arnaoutis (22-4-2, 10 KO). Rodriguez lost his last fight to Rafal Jackiewicz, and Arnaoutis was flat robbed in Maryland against Tim Coleman in his last bout. Both desperately need the win.
Shobox features Erislandy Lara (10-0, 6 KO), the young Cuban I already have ranked as the No. 10 junior middleweight in the world. We've seen most of his pro fights on TV already, and he's got loads of talent. He faces 33-year-old veteran Danny Perez (34-6, 17 KO), who has really only lost to good fighters in his career, and is a nice test for a rising fighter. Perez did lose to one nobody very early in his career, but since then has lost to Antonio Margarito (twice), Jesse Brinkley, David Lopez and Carlos Molina. Lara got some seasoning in his last fight from the awkward Grady Brewer, before stopping Brewer in the 10th and final round.
I won't be in tonight. Brick might be. But here's a place to talk fights with your fellow fight fans. It's a nice Friday night. Tomorrow we'll have live, round-by-round coverage of the Haye-Ruiz card at 4pm EDT, and then the Jones-Hopkins rematch (and full undercard) starting at 9pm EDT.
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The weather is great. The fight look great. Let’s get it on!
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Apr 2, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
I agree
This is going to sound a bit mad and out of place, but it has a Manfredo Jr. – Vanda feel to it. Great match-up on paper, but one using his talents instead of engaging, which I have no problem with. I think it goes the distance though.
Rodriguez lost his last fight to Rafal Jackiewicz, and Arnaoutis was flat robbed in Maryland against Tim Coleman in his last bout. Both desperately need the win.
Wasn’t Rodriguez also robbed against Jackiewicz? Both fighters having a hard time with politics, serves for an even better fight. Optimistic or what.
I thought Rodriguez won
But I was in the minority
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I did, too, but yeah. I can’t class it as a “robbery” because the majority of people, it seemed, felt Jackiewicz won.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’ll try and stay up for FNF – I’ve been missing boxing and need a fix. What’s to look out for?
"I'm not God - but I am something similar", Roberto Duran
by FCF on Apr 2, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Very droll
"I'm not God - but I am something similar", Roberto Duran
by FCF on Apr 3, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
After watching Robert Helenius video for the past two hours
I remembered why I don’t do the prospect smackdowns anymore.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
BTW
Joe Tessitore will be calling tomorrow night’s Jones-Hopkins fight.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
With Dougie Fischer
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Boo Boo's fight will get played
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Andrade is fighting Geoffery Spruiell, who is 8-8
I think 8-8 wins you the NFC West, right?
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Andrade vs. Spruiell R1 (of 6)
Andrade is boxing in his PJ trunks. Holy crap that’s mesmerizing. Fast right hand early. Another jab by Andrade. BANG! BANG! RIGHT AND LEFT! Now they clinch. BANG! LEFT HAND BY ANDRADE! BANG UPPERCUT! COMBO! BANG! BANG! BANG! YOU WANT SOME OF THIS?! BANG! BANG!
Sorry about that.
Spruiell goes down but it’s ruled a slip. He was hurt earlier on said BANG combination. Pretty easy round to score.
10-9 Andrade
Sig bet record: 1-0.
BANG!
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Andrade vs. Spruiell R2
Andrade keeping the distance on his punches. Spruiell misses on a wild right and gets caught on the counter. Both fighters having trouble connecting and on cue Andrade lands a left to Spruiell’s mouth. This is kind of a boring round. Andrade ends the round with a somewhat wild flurry of strikes.
20-18 Andrade
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Andrade vs. Spruiell R3
Andrade is close to landing more punches than Spruiell has thrown….in case you’re wondering he’s landed 5-40. Wild swinging right hand by Andrade sends himself to the canvas. It was really wild. Left hand scores for Spruiell. Otherwise Andrade is picking him apart with his somewhat awkward punching. Good left jab by Andrade.
This fight….kind of sucks.
30-27 Andrade
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Andrade vs. Spruiell R4
Spruiell just left the stool without a mouthpiece. He’s got it in now. Spruiell goes inside and chooses to throw punches with no purpose. Consecutive overhand rights land for Andrade. Spruiell is taking some shots now. They clinch and Spruiell lands some wind punches. He’s dominating the air but not Andrade’s face or body.
Andrade does not seem willing to finish this guy. Spruiell is kind of bad.
40-36
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Andrade vs. Spruiell R5
Andrade should be wrecking this guy. Spruiell actually lands a left to the face. Otherwise….all Andrade.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ACTION! Spruiell is on the ropes and Andrade is unleashing….a few punches. He’s landing them. I guess Spruiell can take a punch.
50-45 Andrade
Sig bet record: 1-0.
"Like Jake Lamotta"
WTF!!!
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Andrade vs. Spruiell Final Round
This is an ugly fight. Andrade trying to finish him. A lot of slapping sloppy punches by Andrade. Spruiell fighting back but….he’s not going to get the miracle KO win. Under :45 left in the fight. I’m going to be honest and say I’m not really impressed with Andrade’s performance.
The 36 year old survives. Whatever.
60-54 Andrade
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Every time I see Andrade, I'm less impressed
He’s quick, but he’s sloppy as all hell.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Tessitore has become the king of overselling things
Saying Spruiell being in this fight could be his Jake LaMotta or Chuck Wepner moment is just retarded.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Tessitore
Has always been a hyperactive mattress salesman. Jake Lamotta, he says!
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
We need to get SC into the announcing booth
“GO DOWN! GO DOWN YOU F*CKING ROBOT!”
Sig bet record: 1-0.
No one have slammed on Bernard Hopkins
Try actually fighting the top dogs, dog
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He needs to fight Dawson or shut up
I’m fine if he doesn’t fight Dawson, but he can’t talk about how he’s the best and has beaten everyone if he doesn’t.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Wow Andrade refuses to look special on FNF…..and Dan Rafeal is just annoying me today
Bruce Seldon > Ali
But he's the best
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
he must be he is the only reporter who deserves to cover the great Hopkins-Jones fight
Bruce Seldon > Ali
I meant Andrade
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Quick Question
Anyone know what time the Vanda fight is in MN? and if there is anyway to follow along with it?
Bruce Seldon > Ali
Not that I know of
I don’t think it’s televised. FIghting Kolle, right?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Groundbreaking anaylsis by Teddy Delvin lost in Poland to a Polish fighter because the fight was in Poland
Bruce Seldon > Ali
Well, it's sort of true, though
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Rodriguez is a big welterweight
And Arnaoutis is usually a 140 pound fighter
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
FWIW
10-9 Arnaoutis, but I wasn’t paying attention closely enough to feel 100% comfortable about that
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Rodriguez has some of the worst accuracy of any fighter at this level
It’s almost like he’s trying to hit gloves and elbows
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And then Teddy says he actually if aiming for the glove
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I have muted Teddy. Jesus. “Right hand is the southpaw killer.” No shit Ted.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
10-9 Rodriguez,
20-18 Rodriguez, but that first round could’ve gone either way
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
19-19
But there hasn’t been much of consequence landed. Rodriguez is busy as usual, but not landing shit, which is why he lost the Jackiewicz fight. Arnaoutis isn’t doing much generally.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Ugh
14% and 9% landed. They’d almost be better off blindfolded.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Punches landed thru rd 2:
19 for Delvin, 5 for Arnaoutis
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And what Teddy was saying is BS
Delvin does this in all his fights. Throws 100 punches a round and lands 15 of them.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
“Arnaoutis is gonna have to be a little bit like Captain Kirk… he’s gonna have to get in his ship and go where he doesn’t like to go.”
That analysis was highly illogical.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
29-28 Rodriguez
He probably outthrew Arnaoutis 2 to 1, and Arnoutis didn’t land much either. Rodriguez isn’t particularly effective either, but at least he’s controlling the fight.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Joe and Teddy was once my favorite announcing duo
Now they’re worse than anything HBO offers.
Doesn’t help this fight is boring.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
If you were listening to each for the first time right now, you'd still think Joe and Teddy were better
They’re just repeating themselves too much
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Teddy keeps talking about hands but not feet. For Teddy THERE ARE NO FEET. Everyone is just vapor from the waist down, like a genie.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
His favorite fighter was In-Djinn Chi
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
39-37 Rodriguez FWIW
Mike landed the best punch of the 4th, but Delvin landed the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th best punches.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I have Delvin pitching a shutout so far. Not sure what round guys are giving Mike.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I thought Mike landed the two best punches of the first round
But I can go either way, and I wasn’t paying as close of attention as usual because I was ordering dinner.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I guess that’s arguable, maybe.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I have no dog in the fight
Other than the 5 points I have riding on Rodriguez
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And Delvin didn't land a clean punch either really
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
48-47 Rodriguez
Which probably should be 49-46, as everyone is pointing out to me.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Andrade IS from Rhode Island
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I feel lazy
I’m super tempted to call that a 10-10 round
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I don't know if you guys know this, but Rodriguez and Arnaoutis have been
On the losing end on some controversial scorecards.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Little known fact: Arnaoutis actually has his chin inside his right glove.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
if that were the fact he would be getting helped off the canvas by the doctors by now
Bruce Seldon > Ali
Would explain why he’s barely landed a jab, though.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHA
For anyone out there searchin for Kolle-Vanda results out there like I am I just found the reason that information is not coming out.
From a blog promising round by round coverage:
WE ARE IN A DELAY DUE TO A COLLAPSED RING. It collapsed just before the scores were announced for the Copp-Tierney fight. The ring is being reset and carefully inspected during this unscheduled intermission.
Bruce Seldon > Ali
Wow
Good thing it wasn’t a Gabe Brown fight
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Yeah that punch looked legit. Delvin kind of Abrahamed that call…..
by Waldo Rastel on Apr 2, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Arnaoutis needs to release the kraken.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Does Rodriguez have any power? Because I’m not seeing any tonight.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
He has decent power
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 2, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He just rubbed some ’tussin on it.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 2, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OFFICIAL RESULTS
117-110
119-108
118-109
Delvin Rodriguez – UD12 and remains the USBA Welterweight Champion
Sig bet record: 1-0.
David Haye thinks beating John Ruiz will be a major statement in the heavyweight division
…..
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Why's this guy still out?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Teddy can regain some of his lost credibility
when he produces that email he claims his friend had seen about Manny asking what would happen if he failed a drug test. The man knows his boxing but loves to hear the sound of his own voice… but when he makes that kind of statement, he needs to back it up.

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