Weights: Arreola - 250; Adamek - 217
On the bright side, this is Arreola's lowest weight since fighting Chazz Witherspoon two years ago. On the not as bright side, it's still a far cry from the 225 - 235 range where he looked his best.
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Arreola was promising everyone “high 230s, low 240s.”
Bad Left Hook
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im trying to jump on the arreola bandwagon and i just cant do it
I mean the guy has no work ethic in is never in shape . he to me is just collecting a check and not trying to be great.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
He's never going to be great
But he could be a lot better than he is if he put in some decent conditioning work.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
exactly i mean if the guy thew in a salad here and there he could atleast be a contender
if not atleast a fan fav i think he just needs to get out of a comfort zone and maybe hire a real trainer.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
He definitely needs to do that
His trainer’s as fat as he is, FWIW.
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ya the trainer is like his brother or something its crazy
i seen and interview where they were saying that basically he was running the show if he didnt want to train then they wouldent push him . i think the guy just needs to get a real trainer and a diet guy . bottom line though it comes down to his heart . which i can see how he fights he has all the heart during the fight just doesnt have the stamina or the skill . this guy is just a back yard brawler who is probably happy just collecting a check .
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
He has skills, he’s just gradually let them erode. At this point he’s little more than a brawler. But I don’t think he’s just collecting paychecks, either. I do think he cares and wants to be a guy fans can go to for good fights, which honestly he is. I think he’s — and I hate saying this, because Arreola’s not a bad guy or anything so far as I know — painfully unaware of the work you have to put in to be great.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 22, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He used to be one of Toney's main sparring partners
Which always made me a bit afraid he’s pick up Toney’s bad habits. And he has.
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by Brickhaus on Apr 22, 2010 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At one point I thought he could be a supersized version of Juan Diaz
But it’s obvious he just doesn’t put in the work. Not only in conditioning, but also in actually learning how to fight. He still doesn’t move his head and he still doesn’t know how to clinch. And the one good thing about him as a prospect, his aggressive workrate, has really tempered down as he’s moved up in class. I’m still stupidly picking Arreola to win in the points game, but that’s mostly a function of the way Adamek faded in his last fight.
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juan diaz is really falling apart right now
i could be wrong but is this guy just a case where he has been cruising threw weak fights threw out the years and now just being exposed by good fighters.
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I don’t see much of a factual basis for that statement.
He fought a great fight against Marquez despite losing it – that’s why it was Fight of the Year. He crushed Michael Katsidis, who is a good fighter. People are just down on Diaz because he lost to Malignaggi, but Malignaggi is a lot bigger than Diaz is.
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It’s also fairly easy to argue Diaz DID deserve to win the first fight (the Van Hoy card turned into “Paulie wuz robbed!” way too easily), and Paulie also fought the best he had in a long time in both fights.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 22, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget that he got fairly well stomped by Nate Campbell.
by Verklemptomaniac on Apr 22, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t forget that he got a shitty cutman in that fight
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by battle axe of doom on Apr 22, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
it actually shocked me to see how huge paulie was compared to baby bull. i always had this image of paulie being this little ass guy, and blam he stands next to baby bull for 12 rounds and he’s a giant.
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by battle axe of doom on Apr 22, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got to the point where I just can’t stand Arreola anymore. He isn’t “unaware.” Don’t play that bullshit naivety card. Everyone tells him constantly and he was humbled recently. He disrespects the sport and the event. He disrespects paying customers who want to see him fight by not showing up in even decent condition. He’s a joke.
I hope Adamek destroys him, but I don’t see it happening.
Everyone tells him constantly
No, “haters” say things. Nobody in his camp tells him anything as best I can tell.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Apr 22, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And if you told him otherwise, you’d be out of his camp. Quit trying to give him a free pass because he is so otherwise likable.
OK, calm down. I don’t even disagree with you. When did I give Arreola a free pass? By saying he’s too indifferent and lazy to understand he has to work harder if he wants to be better than he is?
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by Scott Christ on Apr 23, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont see Adamek being able to hold off Arreola. I think Arreola’s weight will sort of help him in this fight but he didnt need to come in to heavy. If Adamek cant back up or hurt Arreola early, Chris will walk through and bomb away.
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I think Adamek can cut him if he hits him flush early and often…. Arreola doesn’t exactly have the greatest chin…
Adamek has a legendary chin but he can’t get hit flush because there is a huge difference taking a punch at 168,175 and 200… and then at 250…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I'm not sure that this isn't the heaviest puncher he's faced after Travis Walker
who has a shit chin and managed to knock Arreola down. Vitali throws arm punches at this point in his career, and Chazz, McCline and Walker all hurt Arreola, but Vitali didn’t. But Adamek has a a better beard than Walker or Witherspoon, and McCline just flat didn’t show up for the Arreola fight. I’m rooting hard for Adamek, but I still have Arreola winning by late KO, but if his endurance is a little better than it was against Estrada, he can win by decision, and I wouldn’t be shocked if he TKOs Arreola either.
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I have Adamek TKO 11
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I actually mean defense instead of chin…. got ahead of myself.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I admire Arreola’s heart , he’s a spirited fighter but a technically flawed one, Adamek should expose that. Minto was able to tag Chris early and I see the big fella walking onto Adamek’s superior punches and getting busted up in the process.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Adamek by decision
If Thomas uses his mobility and jab he should be able to outbox Arreola . If Arreola is 6 ft 4 then Im blind .
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He's 6'2"
And he always has been. 6’4" is something Goosen pulled out of his ass a few fights ago.
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Arreola makes me sick….wtf all he has to do is stay in shape and he’ll earn more money that he ever could otherwise, and he doesn’t make the effort. Screw him; I can’t root for the guy…..GO ADAMEK!
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Chris would have made a good WBA champ in the 80s . He’s fat enough .
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Adamek by KO 9
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
They weighed in on thursday for a fight on saturday?
I know they’re heavyweights and don’t have to cut weight and then rehydrate but isn’t that unusual?
nope
That’s the usual. It’s more or less just a final hype and photo opportunity.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 23, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Who Cares About Arreola's Weight ?
He is what he is and I’m a fan just the way he is fat ornot !!! Even a fat Arreola should be too much for Adamek to handle although if Chris is really out of shape and gases too early Adamek could win a UD.That said I have Arreola in this one.He should be able to push Thomas around given his advantage in weight.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Apr 23, 2010 7:42 AM EDT reply actions
I mean, it’s not just Chris’s weight. That’s just a number. It’s just an indicator of how hard he trains (or rather, how hard he doesn’t train). We’ve all heard the rumblings about him cutting short runs and pads, skipping workouts, drinking beer, taking it easy. It’s just obvious that he isn’t training to win that highest level. Worse, I think the loss to Vitali stole some of that confidence that is so important. He really got beaten so easily and ugly that it could have him second guessing himself. It is a big opportunity for Adamek, who I think takes the game a little more seriously than Arreola right now, almost certainly trained better, and may have the mental edge.
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Fair Enough
But that said he is who we thought he was !!! Right ?
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Apr 24, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Training Camp
Puhleeze, take Chris away to camp, maybe to Ali’s old camp in Pa. or Buddy McGirts in Vero Beach Fl. anywhere that he is NOT comfortable with his surrondings. Camp is for preparing for a fight,…hard work….sacrifice, hunger for that victory, not for your favorite foods and beverages. I’m a fan of Chris’ come to fight, never say die attitude ON fight nite, prior to that not so much. C’mon Chris just give yourself a chance to fight to your potential, go to a spartan camp where the sole focus is getting ready for a fight. Give yourself a chance to be the best that Christobal Arreola can be,…YOU won’t regret what coulda’ been a few years from now. Peace!!
I agree with this but I want to take it a little further. Arreola need to be far away from anything that could be a temptation. He needs to train in Siberia or ‘Heart of Darkness’ Africa, somewhere that’s far away from temptation and where he has no choice but to focus and train. If he can do this, or his trainer can get him to do this, he could be a great force in the HW. He has (maybe had) all the tools to beat the bros K, but he needs to focus on boxing and not food/beer.
by Waldo Rastel on Apr 23, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
As it turned out, there were a lot of temptations in Heart of Darkness – that was the premise of the story.
Very Clever
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by Drunken cutman on Apr 23, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
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