Mayweather's TV Character: Getting Old?

I say yes, it has gotten stale. I also doubt there’s very much he can do about it. Mayweather is outgoing in his way, but he has never struck me as being either interesting or creative. His persona has always been derivative from the beginning. I don’t think he really knows how to create a new character, and being himself isn’t much of a solution either.

Mayweather’s at the stage of his talkiness where, in the Ali progression, he should have gone from being hated for his talk for being loved for it. But watching this over the years, I’ve gone from understanding the rationale behind his act (if not loving it) and still being able to appreciate his skills, to nearing the point of full-on Mayweather-hater.

There is no Floyd Mayweather Jr anymore, just Money, and no matter how shocked May claimed to be at Mosley’s statements about fighting for love, not money, well, honest or not, everyone wants to think their favorite pro athletes are about something more than cash. Next 24/7, I’ll stick with the same routine of the last one, fastforwarding anytime Floyd’s centerstage. Sad state of affairs from the man who did “invent” these.

I do feel like it would have been nice if Floyd had dropped ‘Money’ for this fight, because it’s going to sell no matter what, and he doesn’t have the personality opposite him to make it anything other than repugnant. What is true is that Nazim Richardson is the most interesting thing about 24/7, because he knows his stuff, he’s charismatic and he’s a genuinely intelligent, likeable guy. He’s about the first person to actually seem to just want to talk about boxing on 24/7 for quite a while.

Did anyone else know before this 24/7 that Rock Allen is Nazim Richardson’s son? I had no idea!

I like the hype and controversy that Mayweather brings, i like the act. He plays the villain and what is funny is that people believe that he is a fool. It seems that everybody forgot when Mosley came to the ring being disrespectful during Mayweathers’ post fight interview and now Mosley is cast as the " GOOD Son".He started the disrespect and now that Mayweather has taking it to the extreme theirs a problem? If you don’t start nothing it wont be nothing, is how the saying goes. Don’t be fooled into thinking that Mayweather has no sense because all he talks about is the money. That sport there is “THE HURT GAME” and you would be a idiot to commit yourself to it and get nothing out of it. Like he said Mosley is almost 40 years old and now this will be is biggest fight purse, that’s crazy especially being that his career took off faster than Mayweather. The reality is this belts do collect dust and when you are done the “Hurt Game” what do you have to show for it? There are to many boxing stories in our generation right now to look back at to see where fighters leave that sport as the peoples champ and no money to live the rest of there lives to the maximum as they did while performing in the ring. IE. ALI, and Joe Lewis. Now- Mayweather is going to beat Mosley’s ass and make him seem real old in the ring. He should have took a tune up fight to make sure his timing was still there and this will be the deciding factor in this fight. Nazim Richardson will have the right plan designed for Shane to adhere to but he will stray from that plan and try to knock Mayweather out and its going to be his ass like everybody else. If he gets in there with the impression out not going 12 rounds with Mayweather its over, and basically it is!

Brother Naazim has been the star of this 24/7

My guess is Floyd Mayweather isn’t the arrogant trashtalker in 24/7 or the guy who hands out lunch bags to the homeless. He is neither of those guys. They are both characters that he is doing.

Also, anyone who believes that the Mosley-Mayweather "confrontation" after the Marquez fight wasn’t pre-scripted needs to dunk their head in a bucket of ice water and wake up. It looked like pro wrassin’ in there. I was waiting for Paulie Malignaggi to slide into the ring and bean Shane with a folding chair. This is all theater, folks.

I never really listened that much to Floyd or cared in particular what he had to say on camera. It’s all been pretty much the same for a few years now anyway, and it’s not like he’s quoting Shakespeare up there. I think I might be the only guy here who hasn’t watched a whole "24/7" for this fight and the truth is a rarely watch them anyway. I caught a little of the first one, laughed at the Rocky theme song, and that was about it.

I’m bascially tired of 24/7 always having to be about the good guy vs. the bad guy (played by Mayweather all 4 times he’s been featured.) I could watch a Disney movie for that classic story line. I want to see 2 mean SOB’s go at it with the trash talk. I want them to find a fighter who can one-up Floyd. None of this “He can say what he wants to say, I’ll let my hands do the talking on fight night” BS. We’re gonna see you fight, but if we’re gonna watch a 4 part TV series on you pick up the drama.

But he’s been trained to hype up fights a certain way. You can’t change it. It’s still entertaining. Find me a better entertainer in the sport.

Did Rocky get old after the 4th? Yeah kinda but it’s still Rocky.

we’ve been watching footage of Mayweather’s bodyguards lift weights.

That’s how f’ing boring this countdown has been.

I was sitting there watching it like….“am I really f’ing watching a countdown show where some gorilla sized dudes who are part of his security detail…..are lifting sh**?”

it was part of the contrast bit between Mosley and he….but it was weak. How they strung together 3 episodes is beyond me….blase all the way. like Floyd’s style.

being the greatest of all time is MORE THAN JUST TECHNICAL ABILITY. IT is more than just PPV sales.

And Floyd refuses to acknowledge or understand that. Mosley’s willingness to take on Wright and others makes him great in my mind. PBF facing Marquez and Hatton does not.

Period.

The problem is 1. It’s getting old and 2. He’s not being real to himself. As a man I can’t respect that. But in the ring man o man I’m behind him 100%

Mayweather’s act is confusing to say the least. As much Shit as he talks and as arrogant as he is, he does nothing but box and train. He goes to clubs to spend money and show off but doesen’t drink. You whould almost think that he is lazy. But despite the fact that he has a load of natural talent and ability, he works as hard as anybody. He has perfected his craft and thats what I look at. He is annoying as fuck, but he is true champion.

It’s a freak show that I pass up, including the hyped 24-7 which i bile inducing, Let’s get it on.

How many times are they going to do and say the same thing. Sure, we know you’re a great fighter, but the charcter or personality you’re selling is that of a jackass. It’s refreshing to see someone like Mosley who tries his best to be a class act and a gentleman. We all have our flaws and I’m sure Shane has his, but his personality is refreshing to see on 24/7 nonetheless.

Pulling for Mosley big time in this fight!

To the rambler, thanks

I like the post and I am tired of PBF saying he is this and that. When what he has done is fight smaller fighters with big followings. And you can’t even count the DLH (who was not smaller) fight because all of DLH opponents usually have their biggest pay days & PPV numbers. Floyd is not a main attraction, he is not like Tyson,(who was also the heel later in his career) because it didn’t matter who Tyson fought it was an event, Oscar, Chavez, Ali, Hatton. Those guys were big names and could carry a fight by themselves PBF couldn’t get 2k folks in the small room at the MGM grand vs. Castillio in 2002. But to his credit he has come up with a good marketing plan and he has a formula for making good PPV number etc.. He plays the heel and the large followings of the smaller fighters come from far wide to watch and hope and pray their guy can shut the loud mouth up. But that has yet to happen, and now we have a change in the formula. He has chosen an older fighter with a medium size following, outcome TBA…..

When I htink about guys like Ernie Durando, Reggie Green, Micky Ward, Eugene Hairston, Carl Thompson, Jerry Quarry, Chuvalo, Charley Norkus, and then compare them to this jerk, I get a bile -build up worthy of Brioschi.

The only way I can deal with PBF is to compartmentalize and seperate the person from the boxer.

At times Mayweather has seemed very childish on 24/7, like when he was going to the mall with his bundle of money and saying “Shane cant go to the mall, were going to the mall.”
He can be funny sometimes and realy off putting other times. I think he needs some sort of change up and drop the camera show. He can still hype the fight.
Richardson has been great to watch

Bill and Hillary Clinton’s when they held hands on a well produced video talking about marital reconciliation just after Jennifer Flowers. As with the Clinton’s, America loves dysfunction. And nobody in boxing does that better than the Mayweathers.
 
Let’s face it. Sex made Tiger interesting. Disaster sell news. Blood sells movies. Floyd is a marginal entertainer with limited range. His act is tired ….but as long as the Gosselins and Kardashians are celebrated, don’t expect it to end anytime soon.

he’s run out of material, and something more important, there’s a lack of sincerity about his act anymore. Mayweather loves to play villain — but he doesn’t love it so much that he doesn’t want people to know it’s just play.

Honestly I always thought Mayweather’s act was apparent. It amazes how many casual boxing fans react strongly to Floyd Mayweather Jr.‘s character. He was kind of stale a while back because he never seemed genuine or sincere to me. I don’t know him personally but he’s more WWE than boxing. The sad part is that people really thinks that he’s an a**hole because the believe and trust their television sets.

I don’t have to play the buffoon like the system wants . . . I don’t have a self-esteem problem, Floyd does.

 - Bernard Hopkins on Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Not sure about the country, but I’ve been tired of it since I first heard him speak. The shit he says is what idiots in my high school used to say, and most of the rappers I worked with in NY. It’s just annoying to me wether it’s an act(which I’m sure it is) or if it’s really who he is. If he was a sincere asshole, I think my respect for him would go up as person. It has nothing to do with his amazing boxing skills and work ethic which I respect. So as the Rambler stated, my way of dealing with Floyd is to separate the 5 year old jackass from the skilled boxer to prevent the intestinal and gall juices from heading north.

I think what’s so annoying to me is that he exudes the mentality of a child playing tough guy or a spoiled rich kid which is a marketing ploy to attract the ignorance of the hip-hop culture, something I was a huge part of until it turned into what it is now. For someone who has to struggle at times to feed my kids I’m not entertained when someone older than I starts flashing money while babbling like a debutante, “We’re going to mall. Shane can’t go to the mall.” It seems like some of that repetition is getting to him and frustrating his need for people feeding his ego which I’ve seen outside the 24/7 series.

Naazim
I agree that Naazim was far more interesting by just being himself. I connect with much of his philosophy, honesty, intelligence, and would prefer a 30 minute show of just him speaking about the sport. I frequently skip around when 24/7 is on, or wait until it comes on demand so I can fast forward through the crap.

What’s retarded to me is that Floyd and his camp don’t seem to give a shit about a fan such as myself who would be interested to see more about Floyd’s actual training from him and his camp. Every time Roger Mayweather or Floyd Sr. are asked a question, they go on a harangue about how the person asking it doesn’t understand boxing, or they just spin it into talking about something else. Instead of hurling insults and acting like they are better than everyone else, it would be nice to hear them share some of the wealth of knowledge they actually have, but they don’t, not even a brief look into some of Floyd sr.’s bouts with some of the greats.

I can relate this to the movie industry. 20th Century Fox demanded that Alien vs Predator be a PG 13 film so they could target teens, even though they were cautioned by people I know not to do this because they would lose the horror fan base, which is exactly what happened. Similar to how I see Floyd who’s targeting simpletons. All of this stuff is marketing though. You try and reach the demographic you are targeting that will yield the most ROI and it’s a system of gains and losses that is calculated as much as it can be. Floyd’s marketing plan is to piss off people who aren’t even boxing fans so that they will want to watch the fight to see him get his mouth shut.

What it comes down to is that Floyd and his cronies either think this is the only way for him to attract who they think will make him the most money, or he’s not intellectual enough to mess with his opponent in a more eloquent way. Ali used to insult the hell out of his opponents, but he had a style to it and even the press would laugh and get into it. Different time, different people, different social climate, but it doesn’t make it any better.

During all of this 24/7 stuff, something popped up that amused me. Back in the late 90’s when I used to go to Harlem to get my haircut, my friend told me about Elliot Ness. Only difference was he called him the KO Master, not the Knockout Artist.