Bad Left Hook Live Boxing Results and Commentary: David Haye v. John Ruiz
by Scott Christ on Apr 3, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
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PrintToday at 4pm EDT, David Haye makes his first defense of the WBA heavyweight title against John Ruiz. There will be a full undercard as this is a UK PPV on Sky Box Office. We'll be here with live, round-by-round coverage, scoring and analysis, and then later tonight, we'll be here for Jones-Hopkins II.
Quick Reading: Bad Left Hook's preview ... Bad Left Hook's Last Five Fights analysis ... The Boxing Bulletin's Haye-Ruiz preview ... The Boxing Bulletin's undercard preview
| DAVID HAYE | JOHN RUIZ | ||||
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Main Event |  |
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| Record: | 23-1 (21 KO) | Record: | 44-8-1 (30 KO) |
| Age: | 29 | Age: | 38 |
| Hometown: | London, England | Hometown: | Chelsea, Massachusetts |
| Height: | 6'3" | Height: | 6'2" |
| Reach: | 78" | Reach: | 78" |
| Ranks/Titles: | WBA, Bad Left Hook #3, Ring #3 Contender, ESPN #4, BoxRec #3 | Ranks/Titles: | Bad Left Hook #10, BoxRec #27 |
| TV: | Sky Box Office - 4:00pm EDT | Venue: |
M.E.N. Arena - Manchester, England |
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SC, since you’re doing the RBR, what do you think of putting the RBR info as part of the main article rather than in the comments?
It may be easier to follow it that way rather than scroll through a bunch of comments to see what happens in a round. That’s my thought, what do you think?
It defeats the draw of our blog platform, in that we have live updating in the comments so long as you have an account. I also don’t do blow-by-blow, in-depth details of most rounds, and I don’t provide short comments like, “Haye dominates the round with a stiff jab. Ruiz doesn’t do much. 10-9 Haye.” It’s more a discussion of the fight with scoring.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Fair enough. RBRs in the comments are always fun, but sometimes searching for accounts of rounds during big fights can get challenging.
Maybe adding a picture above each round reports? That seems like it might be a pain in the ass, though.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
actually...
That wouldn’t be too hard to do. But for shows with four fights…I dunno.
Hmm. I’ll try it out sometime on a FNF or something.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I wasn't thinking anything to fancy
Even the site logo might just call attention to it.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
ROUND 6 - John Smith vs. Jim Jones
GO DOWN YOU ROBOT ETC.
10-8 Smith
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Yeah I’m gonna try something with this card.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
above each round report
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
crtl f is your friend here
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was at cyke btw
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But then how are will we rag on drunken commentators, bizzarre ring walk music and each others scoring?
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I think it’s fine the way it is
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
While I would genuinely like to see Ruiz win, I think Haye’s superior athleticism will carry the day. He’ll hurt Ruiz eventually, and I see the fight being stopped in about round 9.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
Does the auto refreshing comment thing
Work in mobile mode? I’m enjoying a 6 hour drive back from Birmingham tonight so sadly I can’t join you all properly tonight.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 3:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bad times
Other than that this mobile commenting stuff works really well.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it doesn’t.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Not in mobile
And I don’t know about others (I’m only on a blackberry when I’m mobile), but once it gets over about 200 comments, I can rarely get it to work at all.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
That's a shame
I have the radio commentary too so I’ll just see how it goes.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Format
I think it works great like it is presented now, and my thanks for providing your coverage as I can’t justify paying for it out of my budget. Sincerely hope its an action fight for the sake of SC,…else he may just up and leave us hangin’. No prediction from me, can’t get a handle on which version of either fighter will show up. This will be Haye’s 1st legit test at H/W, Valuev was just there, he didn’t do anything to retain his belt,…and Haye didn’t do anything to win it. Just wonderin’ if Ruiz has enough left to offset the speed and youth of David Haye, and take the fight to him? A pick ’em fight for me. Peace!!
This fight’s too important for me to blow it off. I’ve sat through Haye-Valuev, Holyfield-Valuev, Klitschko-Ibragimov, Klitschko-Johnson, etc., and done the RBR here. I’ll make it through Haye-Ruiz. Honestly some of the most fun fights to talk about in this format are bad fights, and bad heavyweight fights in particular.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I still have fond memories
Of the rather amusing Golota vs Adamek RBR.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
MARCH BADNESS
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Ruiz stopping Haye
I don’t consider that to be an upset if it happens
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
I’m gonna go with Haye TKO 8 or 9. I have a strong belief that the first time Ruiz takes a few hard punches on the ropes, the ref will jump in, whether it’s warranted or not. Venue will be a big factor tonight.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I can see a pre-mature stoppage in Haye’s favor. All that’s going to lead to is Ruiz crying for a rematch and the WBA agreeing with him.
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That would definitely result in a sternly worded press release from Ruiz.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 4:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If this goes to the cards
Which I suppose is rather unlikely, then the scoring could be painfully bad.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 3:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can see that
IF Haye isn’t as hesitant as he was in his past two fights. Ruiz has a beard, better than Mormeck, better than Barrett, and about on par with Fragomeni (who was knocked out, but the two really went to war in that one in a pretty damn entertaining fight, in part because Fragomeni has no power). If Haye is willing to exchange because he has no fear of Ruiz’s power, he can score a knockout. If not, I suspect this will go to the cards.
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I predict RJJ redux
Remember how Jones danced around and clowned Ruiz? I see Haye using his speed to do the same.
Those were my original thoughts on this fight,Cyke,not that i think Haye has RJ’s talent but considering Ruiz’ age,a dominating performance from Haye is what i expect.
I read on the Boxing Bulletin preview (and i have heard it said before) that if Adam Booth wears a blue shirt,Haye is more likely to box and look for a decision.If he wears a red shirt,Haye will be aggressive and go for the KO…..Seriously,he has done it in previous fights.
I think Booth will be wearing a red shirt.
So wait — in the UK you guys pay about 22 American dollars for this show? Jesus Christ. We get ripped off over here.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Yeah we do
Although part of that is because the pound’s exchange rate has dropped like a rock. A couple years ago, exchange rate was 2:1. But a 15 quid PPV is still a decent deal.
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This is the greatest commercial ever
MUST BUY SPECSAVERS
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That's a personal favourite of mine!
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What the hell was with that “Oscars 2007” screen?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Personally i would like to see Haye take on Freddie Roach as his trainer if he comes through tonight.
Booth seems to be doing OK but he might be spreading himself too thin with the promoting,etc.
I think they should at least think about taking Roach on as an advisor as he could just add that bit of refinement to Haye’s skills.There has been talk of him taking him on before.
ETA on Main Event?
Trying to plan out my afternoon here.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good to see Jimmy Lennon. Easily the best announcer in Boxing
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
first fight about to start
Charles Adamu (17-4, 12 KO) defends the Commonwealth super middleweight title against George Groves (8-0, 6 KO). Looking forward to see Groves take this step up.
Jimmy Lennon Jr. is the MC tonight.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
groves looks like a guy who once he steps up in class is going to get blasted in about 30 seconds
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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I think he means to world level.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
yea. like bika
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Give him time
This is only his 8th pro fight, plenty of time to improve.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's looking old
Really, really slow.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Man these guys are swinging pretty wildly.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Seen light 2 straight punches so far
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Adamu-Groves R1
Groves with a right to the body and a little left upstairs. Adamu is covering his face specifically as much as anyone you’ll see. Adamu with a quick charge — actually, “quick” is probably not the way to describe it. “Brief.” They’re both a bit tentative but when they throw, throw with purpose. Right hand Adamu, left hand Adamu, wild shots. And Groves ties up. So Groves is already better at clinching out of potential danger than Roy Jones ever learned to be.
Right hand Groves and down goes Adamu! He’ll come back, but I don’t know how much longer he can last. Another big right by Groves, and body shots. Adamu getting blasted into the corner as the bell saves his bacon. He’s not getting far in this fight. Groves is too skilled (and he’s wild himself), too strong.
Groves 10-8
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Adamu-Groves R2
Groves clearly has some real power, at least up to this level. Adamu isn’t anything special, but he’s always been durable. He’s getting bashed around the ring by Groves. Groves is just all over him. Adamu can’t do anything offensively because he’s worried — and rightly so — that he’s going to get whacked if he opens up. He’s so slow out of his defensive stance when he goes to punch that Groves is having a field day with him.
Groves is having no trouble whatsoever now. Adamu is tackling him trying to hang on. He’s desperate. Beaten and he knows it. Adamu’s legs are about gone and I’m already 100% sure his spirit has left him. Adamu swinging wildly now. He’s going to get past the second round, at least.
Groves 10-9
Groves 20-17
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Anybody know how many more fights before the main event? It’s this one and what else?
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
Ajose Olusegan v. Colin Lynes
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Damn. Wish I didn’t ask
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Groves needs to end this. He’s look good so far. But it turns into a disappointment if it goes much farther.
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
Adamu has never been knocked out
He’s known for being sturdy. If he can knock him out at all, it’s impressive.
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RUIZ!!!
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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There’s your new WBA champion right there
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
Seems to me like Groves is what Froch wishes he was. If Groves doesn’t have a beard, he’ll be in trouble as he moves up. If he does, he could go pretty far. Good offense, lots of awkward angles, moves okay.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Adamu-Groves R3
Groves, to his credit, isn’t getting anxious. He’s not pressing and putting himself in bad spots. At 22 and going for his first title (in a system where the domestic belts actually matter still), that’s pretty nice to see. He’s trying to pick his spots and be calculated with his performance, having settled down since the first, when he was almost as wild and reckless as Adamu was.
Adamu is having his best round and maybe even winning this frame. He’s seemed more comfortable in there and landed a couple shots. Groves may have taken a slight bit of a break this round, but I think the way this has gone, he can afford it.
Adamu 10-9
Groves 29-27
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
did he get that outfit at kmart? wtf spend some money quietman
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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He’s gotta save money for his game room.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
and fine cigars
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
i never seen a fighter from ghana get knocked down this much in my life
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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There was this guy Clottey
Not Josh, another Clottey.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
It is his brother, TWIW
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You haven't watched enough Emmanuel Clottey
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Adamu-Groves R4
They showed John Ruiz coming in and said Ruiz knows this is probably his last shot at a world title. How many times has someone said that before a John Ruiz title challenge?
Right hand Groves, short shot, and Adamu goes down again. Yeah, Groves may well have even won the last round, but I think he took it off a little. Maybe even to get Adamu to open up more, as he spent most of the second round staying away from Groves entirely.
Groves unleashing body shots now. He’s letting it fly! Adamu hurt and down again! He’ll fight on.
Groves comes charging at him with his arms flying all over the place. Adamu getting sparked again, and he’s barely standing up. Groves is RIPPING into him! Jesus, this is getting ugly. Adamu is tough but he just cannot stand up to this guy.
The round ends, but I’m not going to be surprised if Adamu’s corner calls it.
Groves 10-7
Groves 39-34
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
they don't call it
I guess they’re holding out for a hero.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I think the British public WANTS George Groves to be great
Just so they can watch him kick the shit out of James DeGale.
I do think DeGale is the better fighter though. I might be in the minority there. They’re both top 5 UK prospects though.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
groves reminds me a bit of a young kelly pavlik
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Wow, not at all for me
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
sarcasm.
hes got the tall and pale thing going for him though
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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But Pavlik is uglier than a badger on fire. This guy kind of reminds me of the Terminator 2 guy.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
The guy who turns into shit.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Yeah, Robert Patrick. The T-1000. Robert Patrick is one of my favorite actors. He was great on The Sopranos. He’s good in everything. ROBERT PATRICK TKO-1 BERNARD HOPKINS
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
"He'll be back"
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
To me he sort of feels like Carl Froch mated with Jason Litzau.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Good call
He has a lot of the same bad habits as Froch. Didn’t think of Litzau. If he starts doing the Mexican hat dance, that will be spot on.
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Adamu-Groves R5
Right hand buckles Adamu’s knees again. Adamu throwing his hands some, but Groves isn’t concerned with that whatsoever. He’s just looking for more openings to crack Adamu. Groves landing again with good shots, but he lets Adamu walk out of the corner. We’re through another round, and I kind of wish we weren’t. Not that I’m bored, but this is feeling pointless now. I think we know how this ends.
Groves 10-9
Groves 49-43
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Groves needs to end this already
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
It’d be nice to see him finish.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I'd like it to happen
But Adamu has gone 12 with bigger punchers than Groves. I think he’d only been KDed once in his career before tonight though.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
This Groves guy sounds pretty impressive
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's over
A bit early, but whatever. I’m not complaining. Groves was tagging him at will.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Adamu-Groves R6
Groves TAGS him with a right. Adamu’s weird to figure in this fight. He looks old and slow, and sometimes it seems like everything hurts him, but he’s still in there, and has taken a lot of good shots well, too. Groves trying to find big shots now. I think in a way he’s abandoned his style — and there it is, the referee stops the fight after another big right hand.
Maybe a bit of an early hook in a nuts-and-bolts way, but this was out of hand. This was about to be 59-52 or 60-51 on the cards after six rounds. Adamu had no realistic chance of winning this fight.
George Groves TKO-6
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
If I get around to it
I’ll do a bit on my top 10 UK prospects. Groves would come in at #4, behind Gavin, DeGale and Cleverly.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If we’re still counting Cleverly, he’s my No. 1. I really like him.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Agreed. I almost feel that if we count Cleverly, however, then we should probably count Kevin Mitchell.
I personally wouldn’t count Cleverly. I think he’s gone beyond prospect status myself. More of a finished product than the rest, I’d say.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I think of him as being in AAA
to use a baseball analogy. Groves just got called up to AA. Mitchell just got called up to the majors. Gavin is still in A-.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
That’s, like, exactly the way I think of this stuff.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
When I define 'prospect'
I don’t include guys who have gotten a shot at a world title. That’s the point where someone goes from prospect to contender in my mind.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He'll do well against this crop of LHWs
But I think he’ll struggle against top flight guys, and there’s not as much room for improvement with him as with the others. He’s still ahead of guys like Groves, Brook and Sexton for me though.
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Is Brook past prospect stage for you then?It’s just that he isn’t really much further on than Cleverley.
No, he's still a prospect for me as well
I have him at 5 or 6. Can’t decide if I like him or Sexton better.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And I need to watch some Quigg
I’ve heard he’s really good too, but haven’t seen him fight.
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Frankie Gavin is without a doubt the #1 UK prospect for me
I think he has top 5 P4P potential. He reminds me a lot of a young, more aggressive Mayweather.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
How would you all rate Groves as a prospect
On a vague scale of 1-10?
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
7ish. he needs a ton of work
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Sounds about right
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High upside, but high potential to flame out
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yea hes got the size and strength. just needs to learn how to use it properly
also who the hell knows whats going to happen once he gets cracked and is competitive fight
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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That's always an issue with prospects
Chin, desire, heart are almost always untested at the lower levels.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Solid 7
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Groves calls out Paul Smith next. This kid is ambitious.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
and I really hope they do that, too
That could be a damn good fight.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Same
Unless it goes into the late rounds. Then who knows.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Boy I can only understand every third word Groves says.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Haha
I understand almost nothing that Harold Lederman says!
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey Hey Hey
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Adrian
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by Brickhaus on Apr 3, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I DID IT
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by Scott Christ on Apr 3, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Boy, if Ruiz does pull out a kayo, we will never hear the end of it. Ruiz will be sending Scott press releases for another ten years. Haye on the other hand, would find his career in shambles.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
It would honestly be hilarious to me, with the bonus side effect of another Ruiz-Valuev fight! Who doesn’t want to see that?
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 4:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Next Up: Ajose Olusegan v. Colin Lynes
Olusegan (27-0, 13 KO)
Lynes (33-7, 12 KO)
Last saw Lynes in the Prizefighter tournament, where he lost to Gavin Rees in the final. Dave Oakes of The Boxing Bulletin called Olusegan “one of the biggest secrets in British boxing.”
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Really?
Strikes me as a hype job. A lot of flash, not a lot of substance. I feel the same way about Brook in some ways too.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
In other news, BJ Flores has split up with Square Ring
Was disappointed he couldn’t get big fights. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
/sarcasm
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Jason Litzau
Ismayl Silakh
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Flores is his own worse enemy
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He gets all the fine women
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I remember that
Pure comedy.
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by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought Sprott dropped out
I read somewhere that Mariusz Wach was taking his place. Might have just been a bad rumor though.
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Was he hurt? Why would he drop out of a fight where he knows he can at least get lucky at a level higher than he deserves to be at if not an injury?
Not that I know of
Like I said, might have just been a bad rumor. They roll around quite a bit. Takes some discipline to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to these kinds of things.
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s card
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hmm
I said:
<——Drinking black russians in honor of tonight’s card
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What the fuck is that a FEATHER?
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That’s a first. Don Flamenco-esque.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WTF is he holding?
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A feather duster
He’s going back to selling them after this fight
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Ring Marshall? Damn that’s bad
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Every fighter from Nigeria seems to use that name
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
How about the Nigerian Nancyboy
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Let's see if Lynes has anything left
He hasn’t looked great lately.
In other UK news, Alex Arthur signed with Hatton Promotions. Meaning he’ll get an undeserved shot at the Euro title in a month or two.
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Didn’t Casamayor used to bing a sweeping brush into the ring??…..
Oh no,that’s right,he WAS ‘the Brush’.
Great underrated fighter that Casamayor. Future Hall of Famer
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were a fighter, I’m not sure I’d want to repeatedly be referred to as “classy.”
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It strikes no fear into any one
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Lynes 10-9
But if I scored slappy combos over clean punches, Olusegan would have taken that round by a mile
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Olusegan-Lynes R1
Olusegan picking away at him for the first couple of minutes. Lynes just can’t seem to catch him clean. Olusegan takes the round, but it wasn’t exactly exciting.
Olusegan 10-9
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Julio Diaz is toast
I just don’t know if Hgoudjo has mentally recovered from the asskicking he got from Urango though.
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Julio been done for awhile already. Needs to hang them up
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Got a feeling Ngoudjo will beat him
This feels more like a bounce back opportunity for Ngoudjo.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Smells like a fight where Diaz quits after 8 and contemplates retirement.
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That’s what the Reyes fight should of been. Or the Cayo one
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
An even better FNF
Andrade-Lucas and Bika-Brinkley got picked up by FNF. That should be an awesome card. I think Andrade will walk over Lucas, but Lucas will try his best to make it entertaining as usual. Bika-Brinkley might be closer than I think, but I think Bika wins a mid-rounds knockout in another entertaining fight.
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Holy shit. Bika-Brinkley is going to be awesome.
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Also, Tony Thompson will be fighting....Owen Beck in a few weeks.
I’m loving Bika/Brinkley. Card is in Montreal I think.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
Yeah
Bute will be sitting ringside, surely.
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Olusegan fights a lot like how Pascal used to fight
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19-19
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Olusegan-Lynes R2
Lynes has that thing that some guys get, guys like Lynes (journeymen who can still fight a little, but not a lot), where he always seems like he’s probably 0.7 seconds slow in making up his mind what he wants to do offensively. It’s kinda like how Marquez looked against Mayweather at times, like you could tell he meant to do something but couldn’t pull the trigger on it, and it’s not really that he can’t pull the trigger, it’s just once he decides to the moment has passed.
Olusegan on the other hand is one of those guys you can tell thinks he’s a lot better than he really is. Sometimes those guys (Jean Pascal) actually get better, but usually not.
Olusegan 10-9
Olusegan 20-18
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this one is going to put me to sleep
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I put some coffee in my last black russian
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I think i’ll give the girl in my avatar a call
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Sara is a good girl. She’ll come over when I call. I’ll wait till the Hopkins-Jones card
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, well if she's a real person...
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I'd bang her
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does she know that you’ve got her as your avatar ostensibly blowing a line?
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
No. I take my chances she wouldn’t visit this site on her own
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Olusegan has good speed, but he would get eaten alive at the world level with his extra wide punches
For sure
Even someone like Kendall Holt would spark him
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Anyone care to hear of a result from the non televised undercard?
or will i keep hush
Not until after the broadcast is over. Just in case. Juuuust in case.
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Olusegan-Lynes R3
Lynes having a much better round. I’m sort of pacing myself with the commentary for this fight, I’ll admit. I’ve got a lot more boxing — and some boring crap — to get through today. I don’t want to burn myself out on Olusegan-Lynes.
Lynes 10-9
Olusegan 29-28
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Mad props on the logo
Looks great and has definitely made following the RBR easier. Thanks. Appreciate that.
David Haye having some kind of dance party.
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Wonder if he’ll cancel when he loses
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No he won't
If he loses – at home, by knockout – he might have to think about a career change.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Did they just call Olusegan world top 10?
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One of the alphabets has him ranked No. 2.
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to be fair
hes not a huge deal outside it
I would say hes top 20
Thank god they didn't do the ridiculous tournament they were proposing
They wanted to do a top 4 fighters tournament, with 4 horrible, just horrible fighters. I remember Olusegan and Jo Jo Dan were two of them, and the other two were guys I haven’t even heard of IIRC
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Based on what?
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
For all of the ABCs (other than the IBO)
One guy puts together the rankings. Literally, one guy. Then the board approves the changes. It’s a system rife with both corruption and retarded decisions.
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Olusegan-Lynes R4
This is a dull pillow fight, to be honest. Why lie? Olusegan and Lynes are caricatures. Fading veteran v. cocky guy.
Olusegan 10-9
Olusegan 39-37
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Is Boxrec still down?
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Some guy in the UK
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Literally some guy though
I remember he got into a flame war with a bunch of Irishmen over listing John Duddy as being from the UK
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For whatever it's worth
Boxrec is not the official records of boxers. There’s some other organization that does that, but they don’t have a website. When the ABCs made the decision a few years back, they decided Boxrec had too many irregularities and was wrong in too many places.
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This fight stinks. Featherman would get clobbered by any legit world-class fighter.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 5:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Eh
He could hold his own against some slower guys if he has a world class chin. Anyone who throws straight punches would kill him.
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Olusegan-Lynes R5
Crowd is starting to turn on this fight. I’m watching it but have decided it’s just not worth describing. I’m
Olusegan 10-9
Olusegan 49-46
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I’m not as behind as I seem. I’m reading other comments and forgetting to post the rounds. This one I didn’t even finish my sentence at the end. Eh.
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The Quietman!!!!! Wooooooooooo
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
……………..and the crowd stayed deathly silent.
by Matt Mosley on Apr 3, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This boring the hell out of me
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It's a perfect setup for a John Ruiz fight
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JOHN RUIZ HAS AN EXCITING NEW STYLE
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Can't be as exciting without stoney in the corner
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JOHN RUIZ LOVES PUPPIES AND ORPHANS
Read all about it in the next press release.
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JOHN RUIZ HAS GAMES ROOM
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by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
uh oh
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Olusegan-Lynes R6
Crowd has totally abandoned this fight. This is going to go 12 rounds. It feels like it’s already gone 10. I’m not saying this is the worst fight of the year or anything. It’s just dull and neither of them are landing any significant shots. I like Colin Lynes but he has very little left, and he can’t deal with Olusegan’s speed, even though Olusegan makes himself slower with his wide ass punches.
Olusegan 10-9
Olusegan 59-55
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I got a question folks
There was talk of Olusegan fighting Mccluskey before. I always thought that was a good fight for Paul. how do you see it?
I’d take McCloskey without much thought. But Olusegan could grind out a shitty decision, I suppose.
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Ruiz is one of those guys that I’ve spent so long hating that I somehow inexplicably start rooting for at the end of their careers. Funny how that works.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It makes sense
It’s natural, I think. Except in extreme cases, like Briggs, Mayorga, Golata, etc… guys you’d want to see lose five times a week if you could.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
There is also some sort of sick pleasure I take in having Ruiz re-emerge as Heavyweight “champion.” Probably not good for the sport, but I’m a masochist.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Olusegan suddenly thinks he's Yuri Gamboa
or Anthony Small
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Small is a good comparison.
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Watt just made the best comment ever
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Olusegan-Lynes R7
Olusegan 10-9
Olusegan 69-64
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by Scott Christ on Apr 3, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fine analysis sir
Emphasis on anal
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This is the sort of fight I have no patience for. There’s nothing about this fight I like or, at this point, care about.
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Evidently, John Ruiz has a harder head than most guys
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Olusegan-Lynes R8
Lynes has been coughing and hacking this round. Something’s wrong with him, he takes a knee, and it’s over.
Ajose Olusegan KO/TKO-8
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What just happened?
Lynes took a knee and just stayed down for no apparent reason. Wasn’t punched or anything.
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He was coughing and making noises the entire round.
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I wonder if all bets are off because of that?
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As in actual bets? Like gambling?
because they absolutely would not be.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 3, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
It’s just a very suspicious ending.
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Yeah. I’ve gotten absolutely boned by suspicious endings. it’s VERY hard to get any sort of ending that gets overruled.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 3, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bored maybe.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
I was so bored I missed the KO. Body shot?
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No, he was coughing and just took a knee. Somethin’ gone wrong.
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Looked like he might have been wretching
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All I caught was “must be the weight.”
Now they’re saying Olusegan deserves a world title fight. Sure, give him one. He’ll get his ass beat and then the Sky team can go HIS DREAMS ARE IN TATTERS!!
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here's Jamie Moore
Debut at middleweight.
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this happened earlier
Joining in round two to kill some time.
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Here we go
Moore highlights
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Butch : In the seventh, my ass goes down.
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by jrok on Apr 3, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’ll use this time to heat up some pizza.
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Jets! Did you load that crust? Gotta load the Jet’s crust.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 3, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
...nevermind...you went with the shitty stuff.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 3, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I love living in New York
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My dad raves towards the whole family that New York Pizza is the best.
He rarely eats pizza now.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
My new favorite
Not new york style, but it’s just awesome. Pure awesome. Veloce Pizzeria.
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The Sky team just said there’s talk that Macklin’s going to fight John Duddy. Who said it? Macklin’s uncle?
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That isnt happening
and neither are fighting Lee in the immediate future either
I thought Duddy getting wrecked by Chavez Jr was signed already
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Against the same Duddy who lost to who was it again? Lydell? Come on now. The guy just ain’t that good. I understand Chavez isn’t either. But Duddy should have more L’s than he already has
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Duddy has fought better opposition and done better against them.
John has probably regressed as a fighter in the last year, but he still has more than enough to handle that kid.
Better opposition? He has? When? His best opponent has still been the 200 year old Campas who beat his ass. Ever since that fight he’s fought no one and still struggles
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Name one fighter Chavez has fought better than Howard Eastman
There isnt one. Even if he was faded when John beat him
And if you want to look at common opponents take Matt Vanda. Chavez struggled wildly while Duddy completely tooled him.
Duddy by stoppage
Chavez at least rematched Vanda and beat him legit wise. Duddy refused to rematch both Campas and Walid Smichet. Both who deserved wins against him. Not to mention he refused to avenge his loss to Billy Lyell
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong
Lyell went elsewhere and took a beating. John has never been shy about his limitations. He acknowledged that he lost fair and square to Lyell. Hes never made an excuse is entire career. Chavez last performance was an absolute disgrace, and there is no other way of looking at it
We will see in June.
I really would be shocked if Chavez wins
Duddy’s better, and it’s not even close. Duddy is inconsistent, but he’s 3 or 4 classes above Chavez.
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It’s just so idiotic. It would be a real treat if John jumped in the time machine and wrecked Haye. In no way whatsoever is Haye a heavyweight champion right now.
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I think hes done
Its sad because there was a time I thought he was capable of winning a world title. The fights just caught up with him before he got that chance.
“But that was a lifetime ago…”
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Haye will never face either brother. Never
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No he won’t. He coward out twice already. He’ll do it again
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I notice they aren’t showing highlights of “Haye-Valuev.” Wonder why.
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“Used fitness, used physique…”
He used his physique? You fawning weirdo?
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THERE’S ONLY OOOOOOONE CHANT THAT BRITS KNOW
OOOOOOOOOOONE CHANT THAT BRITS KNOW
EVERY GUY
GETS THAT CHANT
BRITAIN IS A CHANTING WONDERLAND
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I know. I liked it for Ricky Hatton, but now it always feels forced to me.
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Especially when they try it for Matthew Hatton or someone like that.
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The Brits have a far more offensive chant for Korea's Park Ji-Sung from Man Utd
He’ll shoot! He’ll score!
He’ll eat your labrador!
That one is so wrong…
Sig bet record: 1-0.
I sincerely disagree. I didn’t think he looked any better than Ruiz did, than Holyfield did, than Chagaev did.
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not that I'm blaming David Haye for it
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Considering he had a 12" height disadvantage and a 100 pound weight disadvantage i think he did pretty well.
Valuev is not 7’3". He’s also not 7’2", which I’ve seen some people claim. He’s 7 feet tall. Haye had a massive size disadvantage, but so has everyone else. It was a terrible fight.
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and that's the conversation winner
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it wasnt his best performance
and he was lucky to get away with the win to be honest, but it was an awkward fight for him.
I enjoyed it as a spectacle even if it wasnt the most exciting fight of all time
It is really awful. HBO can be really annoying with their house fighter bias, but this whole “Let’s go Haye” routineshould be saved for the Olympics. It’s truly bile inducing.
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Yes I remember one time the UK team was like “Get him Ricky. Get him”
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by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
HBO extends their love outside of the US. Miguel Cotto for example.
Although Puerto Rico is a US territory…..
Sig bet record: 1-0.
house fighters, yes
Nothing to do with country.
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At least this hasn;'t happened
From last night’s Kolle-Vanda fight:
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According to his own words Haye is the savior who’s suppose to clean up the division. So far since his arrival all he’s done is beat a washed up Monte Barrett and barely edge out a mediocre on his best day Value.
Damn cleaning up a division sure ain’t what it use to be
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
And it only took him two years to do that!
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Well he is about to become a time champion. Paper or not
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
3 time champion
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
3 time champion
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
…jesus christ this entrance. All it needs is some lightning and skulls.
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“Haye will match Ali.”
“Old school hard man.”
WTF?
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by Scott Christ on Apr 3, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now that's old school
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Let's keep it PG guys
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
sky sucks
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by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What an awful song to walk out to
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I feel like Bridget Jones is coming in.
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Maybe next time he should walk in to "I'm every woman"
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by Brickhaus on Apr 3, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just heard Watt saying that in my head. I laughed.
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“Look at those trunks, chap, as they mold around his muscular haunches. Oh how I’d love to take that gum shield out…”
Hilarity
TThe guys on the radio are pretty poor too though
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wasn’t paying attention, but that would be funny. I love the nationalism. I don’t know why everyone got pissy when the Brits boo’d our anthem, but then again I usually boo it from my living room myself.
Because it’s classless. Imagine if we did the same.
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No matter how good a shape Ruiz is in, he always looks like someones alcoholic uncle
by IRodC on Apr 3, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’ve heard Lennon speak German, Thai and Russian among others. The man is a legend. Met him once in Vegas. Man was in a hurry. But still took time to take pictures with my sons. Not just one picture with all of them. But one with each as well
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
Called it
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ugh i’m assuming ruiz got demolished already?
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Apr 3, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruiz might be coming uut too aggresively for his own good
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No one
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Apr 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the hell are you talking to? lmao.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Not fucking true.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Because you’re putting words in peoples’ mouths, or misinterpreting things that were said. We all picked Haye to win. Some of us (myself) said Ruiz is a legitimate heavyweight. That’s as far as it went.
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Ruiz came out with a stupid strategy
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I was hoping to drink heavily during this fight
Doesn’t look like there will be enough time to do so
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They should deduct a point from Ruiz there IMO
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Haye-Ruiz R1
Well Ruiz is coming out fast. BIG RIGHT HAND DAVID HAYE AND DOWN GOES JOHN RUIZ!
Wow. Ruiz is in bad shape, too. He’s not going to last. He’s done. He’s up but he’s out of it. Shots to the back of the head from Haye, CLEARLY to the back of the head, and Ruiz is down again.
Ruiz is finished. Was Haye docked a point?
Haye firing again. Landing and blasting Ruiz. About a minute left. Haye isn’t going to finish him in one. Ruiz seems like his legs are coming back to him, but whatever. Ruiz hits him after the bell, too. Haye makes a face like someone just farted in his mouth.
Haye 10-7
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OK, so it’s technically 9-7 Haye. Why they counted the second knockdown is beyond me, but whatever.
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Ok I think John was just pacing himself
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
lol
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I thought Ruiz buzzed Haye a little bit near the end there
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Wait...was the rabbit punch a knockdown?
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes
And Haye was docked a point, apparently. So…?
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I don't think so
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If this ends up being the best heavyweight fight of the last few years
I’ll shit my pants
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These announcers are such ball shiners it makes me want Ruiz to win.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
There is no doubting the power of Haye
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by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 6:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Haye-Ruiz R2
Ruiz still coming straight at Haye. Haye would be better off to calm down and just jab him and set him up. Ruiz takes a big right hand this time. It hurt him, though. Not bad, but no doubt he felt it.
Ruiz has stalked Haye this entire round and Haye has not looked nearly as explosive. There really is a decent chance Ruiz was caught cold on that nasty right hand more than anything. Not that it wasn’t a vicious punch.
Far better round for Ruiz, obviously, but Haye takes it.
Haye 10-9
Haye 19-16
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Ruiz is too slow to get him
unless it’s off a counter
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John Ruiz is looking like a gigantic version of David Diaz right now
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R2 10-9 Haye, 19-16 Haye
I thunk. Unsure about R1 scoring.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
white
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All he’s doing is walking him down, IMO.
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Haye-Ruiz R3
Ruiz jabbing and fires the straight right, barely missing with it. He isn’t backing off from Haye at all. I mean, I’m nicer re: Ruiz than most anyone, but this surprises me even. I thought he was finished in the first. He’s making a fight of it now.
Haye landing more again in the final minute of the round, and landing well. David is just such a dynamic fighter compared to Ruiz, whose toughness is carrying him now. He’s having trouble establishing anything offensively, similarly to the Jones and Toney bouts.
Haye 10-9
Haye 29-25
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idk how the scoring in this fight works at this point
Haye- All the rounds
Ruiz- None of the rounds.
Haye is only moving his feet in one direction
One would think that Ruiz might eventually catch on and throw a right hook
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At least he isn't hugging
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU BEFO'
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announcers are nauseating. just get down on your knees already fellas
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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I would prefer the sky guys to HBO;s team
even if the bias is ridiculous
Ruiz round I think
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Haye-Ruiz R4
So now we’re at a point where Ruiz knows:
1. Haye can hurt him, and bad
2. Haye’s faster than him, by a lot, but
3. He’s gotten himself steadied and back in the fight
So now what does he do? He’s walking Haye down very well, but Haye appears entirely comfortable fighting going backward. Ruiz does land a right there, and another one gets in. Ruiz is having a really good round, in fact, so I think we’re seeing what Ruiz’s plan is. Haye may have taken the round off, but Ruiz has clearly thrown him off just a bit.
Ruiz 10-9
Haye 38-35
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R4 10-9 Ruiz, 38-35 Haye
Haye looks like he took that round off.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't understand why Haye doesn't just blow him out of the water.
Is it because he hates me? I think it’s because he hates me.
I’ve been wondering again after watching this entire card. Is the Rabbit Punch simply legal in England? Or in some legal gray area? I can’t figure out why they were counting Ruiz in the first round.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Surprised!
The ref didn’t jump in there. Ruiz will be TKO’d if he lets that happen in the corner again.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I think they meant
as much violence as a chess match.
by tichbou on Apr 3, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha ruiz patting back of his head. what a dipshit
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-Sonny Liston
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The second punch was a rabbit punch
But it was the first one that hurt him
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LOL
The ref didn’t hear the bell ring
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Haye-Ruiz R5
Huge right from Haye, and another one lands! Ruiz stays up, though. John’s caught in the corner, eats another right, and fires one back. Now he works himself out of there. Ruiz walking him down again. We’re seeing a pretty interesting fight, and for damn sure it isn’t boring like so many heavyweight title fights.
Ruiz lands a bit, gets a quick warning for using his elbows. Haye with a left hook, but blocked by Ruiz. Stiff jab by Ruiz. They’re complimenting Haye’s jab and going bananas about his boxing and “blinding hand speed.” This is a much closer round than they’re letting on. Haye is moving around the ring and not fighting much at all. He takes the round rocking him early, but RUIZ HIT AND HE’S DOWN AT THE BELL!
Hey, idiots — the round is over. They send Ruiz back to fight. Now they ring it again.
Ruiz’s nose is definitely broken.
Haye 10-8
Haye 48-43
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R5 10-8 Haye, 48-43 Haye
Rabbit punch again.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A punch did land behind the head, but Ruiz was already going down from a clean shot. It happens.
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That was a clean knockdown and the rabbit punch was after the fact.
Ian Darke is a great announcer, but he is humping Haye.
Sig bet record: 1-0.
If rabbit punching is legal in England
Haye better make sure he never fights Sam Peter in the UK
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Why the hell is the announcer counting instead of the ref
The count shouldn’t be going on when he’s telling Haye to get to the corner
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they are not really intentional imo. its more ruiz stumpling all over the place
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Yeah, I get the same feeling. Ruiz is constantly falling all over.
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Haye-Ruiz R6
You’d think Ruiz might change his plan a little bit, but I guess he really has no other ideas other than clutching and grabbing, and it’s too late for that. He’s still coming right at Haye. Haye with another shot, and RUIZ IS DOWN! More rabbit punch complaints.
Haye letting his hands fly now. Ruiz is going to bitch about this fight forever. Haye’s mouthpiece came out, now it’s replaced.
Ruiz still won’t back off. Haye is really taking over. He’s been pretty sensational tonight. Big right hand, then the referee jumps in for…some reason, and THEN the bell sounds.
Haye 10-8
Haye 58-51
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HUH!!!???
THe ref just stopped the fight it looked like, but the bell rung so he let the guys go to the corners?
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R6 10-8 Haye, 58-51 Haye
Wlad would eat this guy alive.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Shocked again the ref didn’t step in. I was sure he would right then.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
What the fuck is Haye doing…
Ruiz is done… get him out.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Yeah that's what I was thinking
Honestly, he keeps letting John back in.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
the fight
guys….
is the fight on a live stream anywhere…. or is it just on sky sports?
Haye-Ruiz R7
This might be the end of John Ruiz’s career, but given that he’s got things to complain about, probably won’t be. He’ll keep going until he loses to someone he really shouldn’t because he’s gotten way too old.
He’s tired. He’s taken a pretty good beating. He’s been down four times. He’s had to chase Haye, AND he’s gotten hit by him.
Ruiz gets in a good body shot, and clips him upstairs with a right. How Ruiz keeps “bouncing back” with rounds where he doesn’t get his head taken off is perplexing me.
Haye 10-9
Haye 68-60
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R7 10-9 Ruiz, 67-61 Haye
Ruiz is a pretty tough dude.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well Haye is no Tua…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
David Tua’s 19-second knockout of John Ruiz might be the most overblown thing in the last 15 years of boxing.
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what wankers these guys are.
they seem to think any power shot haye lands is supposed to knockout his oppenent
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Haye-Ruiz R8
Right hand by Haye, Ruiz has to retreat again. Ruiz with a lazy jab now. He’s pawed that jab out there when he feels Haye might be ready to go after him again. Haye also has gotten him to lazily walk right in and get hit plenty. Tactically, I think he’s done a brilliant job in this fight.
Another huge right stings Ruiz, and he takes it. Rest of the round is back to the stalk-and-walk. Ruiz did some more decent things this round, but Haye is winning this fight on big punches.
Haye 10-9
Haye 78-69
Bad Left Hook
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When he gets excited, he sounds like Groundskeeper WIllie
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Ruiz needs to go back to his old style for any chance to win. Clinch and hit John
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
It’s way too late for that. What’s he going to do, win a decision?
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I think i would like to see ruiz pulled out
Hes taken a lot of big shots clean tonight
He's probably taken as much damage in this fight
As he has in the last decade combined
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Haye-Ruiz R9
More of the same, but then Haye hurts him again with about a minute left in the round, and apparently the towel came in. It’s over.
David Haye TKO-9
Bad Left Hook
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Yeah I think so
About time, too.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Dubious stoppage
But no complaint from Ruiz, so no complaint from me.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oh, didn’t see towel. Good call, honestly.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 3, 2010 6:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“The former Boy Scout, who used to knock out all the bullies…”
Jesus Christ already.
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press release coming next week that ruiz has fired his entire training staff because they stopped a fight he was winning and he demands an immediate rematch…..or step aside money
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Nah — he won’t say he was winning, he’ll say he still could have won, and that he felt the tide was turning and that he was hurting Haye.
Bad Left Hook
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"David Haye proved everything tonight."
Yes, congratulations for TKO’ing a 38 year old man in the ninth round.
SC, prepare for some RUTHLESS paperwork from Mr. Ruiz. A stack the length of your arm. Hope you like reading about rabbits, dude.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
"Haye has proved everything, every doubt that anyone could have had is now gone"
I’m impressed that Haye can box with his dick in the commentator’s mouth.
by tichbou on Apr 3, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My goodness… they are circle jerk champs….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Card starts in about 2 hours
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Check in about 10 minutes on Yahoo / Ring
to see if they’re playing the untelevised undercard for free. I want to see how Frankie Gomez looks.
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i wanna see haye vs solis.
my favorite tubby bastard will slaughter haye.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Not sure Solis is mobile enough to catch up with him these days
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I would like to see that one to
I would like to see Solis lose some weight though
lose-lose situation for Haye. Win, and you TKO’d “a 38 year old man”. Lose, and you’re nothing. Haye did what he had to do with a guy who has only been beaten real badly what? Once vs Tua? Twice, if you count RJJ, maybe.
Three times
Tua, Jones, Toney. But Haye’s the first to really give him a sustained beating.
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True
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Apr 3, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Doing what he had to do was stopping Ruiz early
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Apr 3, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true - he had to beat him handily.
It was one-sided. That’s enough.
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Apr 3, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Haye just admitted the rabbit punch that got a point docked was “a bit of a cheapshot by me.”
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Over/under has to have a .5, so make it 3.5
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Wlad I hope!
I wouldn’t be suprised if Pac turned out to be the incredible hulk in a very good disguise. - Sigidy
by Drunken cutman on Apr 3, 2010 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hayes becomes officially the world third best heavyweight. However, he can get better matchups, as good contenders may see him as a winnable fight. Who is next? Adamek? Chagaev?
Valuev rematch
Unless he steps aside. Then probably Chagaev after that.
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Chagaev-Meehan is an eliminator
I’m assuming Chagaev will beat Meehan
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I know, and I assume the same. But Kali Meehan anyway.
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Not sure if you fellas are kidding around but it’s pretty freaking obvious to me that Valuev,then Chagaev are not going to be Haye’s next fight’s.
He will drop the belt or pay step aside before he would fight Valuev again after he already clearly beat him and got a decision in Germany (usually unheard of).
If i have a small criticism of the writer’s on this site,it is that you put too much emphasis on these joke alphabet titles.
Haye will take the fights which make the most sense.
He says he wants to retire in 18 months before his 31st birthday.I know Oscar said this too but if he does stick to it he has been quoted as saying he wants Vit,then Wlad,then one defence of the undisputed before retiring,if all goes to plan.
The two Klit’s,Solis and/or the Adamek/Areolla winner would make the most sense.
As M A Barerra showed in the early 2000’s,alphabet belts mean very little when compared to lineal/Ring titles.
Fans know who the best are and Haye should just give up his belt if he has to,before taking on boring,meaningless fights.
you put too much emphasis on these joke alphabet titles.
If I went and counted the number of times either SC or Brickhaus have criticised the alphabet titles on this site I literally think it would run to over a hundred each.
Haye has built most of his recent popularity on being a “champion”, he isn’t very likely to drop his belt any time soon.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Apr 4, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying SC and Brickhaus aren’t aware how ridiculous the sanctioning bodies are but i know guys like Dan Rafael and The Ring hardly ever even mention them.They just say ‘so and so is fighting for a title belt’,and that’s how it should be,imo.Top ten WBA ‘contenders’,for example shouldn’t be given be even mentioned as legit opponents unless they’ve earned their ranking.
The reason i mentioned this in the first place is that i don’t think Chageav should be being mentioned as a potential Haye opponent.
If i have a small criticism of the writer’s on this site,it is that you put too much emphasis on these joke alphabet titles.
I have a large criticism of this criticism. When have I ever put emphasis on the alphabet belts? I just note that they exist. They do exist. Also, the fighters do care about them. Putting emphasis on the belt would mean I think the belt itself matters. I do not, in any single case, think that the belts of the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF matter. I simply note that they exist, and that they are recognized as being important to the people fighting for them in most instances. The fighters largely do care about the belts.
Some guys (Chad Dawson and Ricky Hatton are great recent examples) are keenly aware that these title belts really don’t mean anything, and that if there’s a better fight for them out there that will get them stripped of a belt, screw it, fight that guy. But a lot of guys just do what the sanctioning bodies want them to do. I don’t know what Haye will do, but the WBA would probably prefer to have him rematch Valuev (which is a contractual clause), then fight their mandatory.
I’m not saying SC and Brickhaus aren’t aware how ridiculous the sanctioning bodies are but i know guys like Dan Rafael and The Ring hardly ever even mention them.They just say ‘so and so is fighting for a title belt’,and that’s how it should be,imo.
I say “so and so is fighting for the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO belt,” which isn’t much different. I just name which one it is. I’ve never once hyped the belt as a major reason to care about a fight. We recognize the Ring titles as the championships of boxing. We have a whole thing on the left sidebar of the site that never moves. We do not call anyone “champion” if they don’t hold the Ring title. They’re “titlist” or “titleholder” or “beltholder.”
There is almost no difference in how we see or discuss these title belts as compared to Rafael or The Ring. In fact, I’d say we try to stick to those same standards — the belts exist, X is fighting Y for one of them, and that’s that.
The reason i mentioned this in the first place is that i don’t think Chageav should be being mentioned as a potential Haye opponent.
I don’t either, but he will be. Ignoring it won’t make it go away. Haye can drop the belt if he doesn’t want to fight who the WBA eventually orders him to fight.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
It is with relief that I thank god and David Haye that Ruiz can not claim to be on a par with Ali courtesy of a third belt.
That would have been sick.
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
Mr Loathsome…..you are in danger of being BANNED by virtue of using the words “Ali” and “Ruiz” in the same sentence!
It was Ruiz who said it!
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Apr 3, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Haye's been a natural heavyweight since before he won a cruiserweight title
Adamek is an overgrown cruiser
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Yup - I said that years ago
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by Randy Loathsome on Apr 3, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruiz might be a 38 year old has been but Haye did the job and its bloody nice to see a heavyweight with balance and foot speed . Hayes corner once again had a great fight plan . Ruiz has two left feet and fights with his weight over his front foot so he is an obvious candidate to be jabbed to death . Jones and Toney both jabbed Ruiz head off . Being a glass half full kind of bloke Im glad Hayes bringing a bit of excitement to the division . Whether he can beat Wlad or Vitali is another matter but all in all Haye did the biz and it was an exciting fight so Im not whinging .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Cheers Matt
After watching Vitali v the " safety pin" Johnson or Wlad treating Chambers with way to much respect that fight was a breath of fresh air .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Epic thread y'all
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not 1. Damn autoformat.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Good day all round
Haye over Ruiz;
Clijsters thrashed V Williams;
Chelsea hammered MU.
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
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