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Joel Casamayor-Joan Guzman added to Marquez-Diaz PPV

Joel Casamayor will return on July 31 to face Joan Guzman. (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn / Getty Images)

BoxingScene.com has reported this morning that a fight between former lightweight champion Joel Casamayor and ex-122 and 130-pound titlist Joan Guzman will take place at 140 pounds (knock on wood) on the undercard of the July 31 PPV rematch between Juan Manuel Marquez and Juan Diaz.

I don't know how else to say this, so I'll just say it: I love this fight. It's like two movie or comic book villains fighting each other instead of fighting a hero or messing with the innocent. I'm a longtime fan of Casamayor, partially because I just find him amusing (and think he's one of the most overlooked of his era), and Guzman used to be someone whose skills I really admired.

It's Casamayor, who is one of the dirtiest players in the game and has been for years, against the loathsome Guzman, who sunk to a new low for fan respect when he weighed in a full nine pounds over the lightweight limit for his March rematch with Ali Funeka, which he won by split decision.

It's also a fight between two guys who I don't think are particularly good anymore, and a fight between two guys who really aren't junior welterweights.

Guzman (30-0-1, 17 KO) has wasted a lot of talent over his career, as this was a guy who really could have been a pound-for-pound contender. I remember when they were both at 130, and Manny Pacquiao was starting to really get his career on a major roll, and there were a lot of people in 2006-07 who thought the absolute worst fight in the world for Pacquiao was the slick, smart Guzman. I was one of them, too. But he's not that fighter anymore. He's slick enough for the overrated Funeka to have trouble against, but Guzman is slower and much easier to hit than he used to be. At 34, he hasn't really taken proper care of himself, and he doesn't seem like he trains all that hard. He had a window to really be one of the absolute best in the world, and he let it shut.

I don't know if anyone besides me saw Casamayor (37-4-1, 22 KO) in his last fight on that God awful Zab Judah PPV last November, but Joel's move to 140 was iffy to say the least. He looked terrible against Jason Davis, a pure club fighter who had way too many moments. I mean, I know Joel was rusty and working at a new weight, but he looked cooked in that fight. The 79-73 cards across the board were wide, in my opinion. I had Joel winning 77-75.

At 38, Casamayor really doesn't appear to have a lot left. After the semi-debacle against Davis, where the scorecards were filled out in advance and every judge threw the valiant bum a one-round bone ("Here ya go, Sparky, good try!"), his team said he could fight at 135 again, but that's apparently not in the cards. It has now been over two years since Casamayor scored a good win, when he knocked out Michael Katsidis in a barnburner back in March 2008. He fought well against Juan Manuel Marquez six months later, until he was stopped for the first time in his career by a better, hungrier fighter.

On paper, right now, I have to give the clear edge to Guzman. He's not who he used to be, but Casamayor really isn't who he used to be. But if ever I saw a fight that might get chippy, this is it. The combined faded skills could actually make for a hell of a good fight, and I think the main event all but guarantees another damn good fight.

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Well this is shaping up to be one heck of an interesting card. The four fighters featuring all appear to have seen better days; however, we all know that could just help create two storming fights. Really hoping Joel’s got enough left to teach Guzman a proper lesson.

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by Oli Goldstein on May 1, 2010 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Casamayor looks REALLY old in that picture

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by Brickhaus on May 1, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

good fight.

guzman is going to whip his ass though.

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by sonofapsycho on May 1, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting take on the "two villains fighting each other."

But I’m so sick of Guzman missing weight, and hate to see him keep getting paydays.

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by The Kittitas Kid on May 1, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh my fucking god…

This is too good to be true…. two of my most hated fighters fighting each other….

I at least respect old man Casa…. Gamboa will be lucky to have his resume when it is all said and done.

Guzman… is a classless clown and is a puto for how he has conducted himself in his past fights. I hate that he is getting paid a good payday on PPV.

I want Casa to use every dirty trick in the book on him…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on May 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

you like Casa? huh – never woulda guessed

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by lcollins1 on May 1, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Casa to use every dirty trick in the book on him…

same here

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by lcollins1 on May 1, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much does the HD PPV cost?

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by IHateMMA on May 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

probably 55

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by Scott Christ on May 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe too much

I’m sort of torn. The first fight was really good, but I do feel like both guys have lost something since then. This is a good start to a solid undercard, although while it looks competitive on paper, it also looks like an ugly ass fight on paper. If they can get two more solid undercard fights, then it clearly goes into the ‘buy’ pile, but it also feels like there isn’t a real PPV headliner on the card.

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by Brickhaus on May 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how else to say this, so I’ll just say it: I love this fight. It’s like two movie or comic book villains fighting each other instead of fighting a hero or messing with the innocent. I’m a longtime fan of Casamayor, partially because I just find him amusing (and think he’s one of the most overlooked of his era), and Guzman used to be someone whose skills I really admired.

Wow… you stole the words out of my mouth…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on May 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree 100%. And I’ll be pulling for Casamayor all the way. I always saw Casamayor as a fun villain, in the vein of a WWF heel. Guzman, on the other hand, is just a flat-out bastard. Plus, it galls me to think that Guzman could retire with a zero. That would just be wrong.

by taco pal on May 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

It’d be a zero no one remembers or cares about.

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by Scott Christ on May 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one who knows anything will care. But I don’t even want any random websurfers on Boxrec in ten years to think “Hey this guy must have been great!” He doesn’t even deserve that.

by taco pal on May 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he doesn’t have any names to his resume…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on May 1, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

I bet most fight fans can’t name more than five guys who retired undefeated. There are 11 guys who stopped fighting as titlists who were undefeated, but few probably remember more than Marciano, Calzaghe, Lopez and maybe Ottke.

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by Brickhaus on May 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ottke is awesome.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on May 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if faces Mayweather at 135 in his prime… he beats him.

I also thought Mayweather lost to Castillo… but eh… like Lampley said… some fighters are more gifted than others.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on May 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

41-2. If there was justice in the Boxing world that would be Casamayor record. He deserved the win against Acelino Freitas (Casamayor dominated the second half). The KD against Diego Corrales in there 2nd fight gave him a 1 point edge on my card. I thought he banked enough rounds and held on against Jose Luis Castillo. And to this day I can’t believe how anybody gave him a draw against the mediocre Kid Diamond. At the same Casamayor must return the Jose Santa Cruz win. His loss to Juan Manuel Marquez was legit. So 41-2 should be his mark. Regardless I consider Casamayor a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame. He’s been a favorite for a long time. He’ll beat Guzman.

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by Violent Demise on May 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I consider Casamayor a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame.

I do too.

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by Scott Christ on May 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Borderline HOFer to me

BTW, I’ve been thinking about running a series about hall of fame cases for guys who are on the borderline. Is that something people would be interested in, or not really because the relative lack of significance to the IBHOF?

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by Brickhaus on May 1, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m into it. I’ve thought about doing the same sort of thing.

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by Scott Christ on May 1, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defintiely

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by Drunken cutman on May 1, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Borderline HOFer to me

BTW, I’ve been thinking about running a series about hall of fame cases for guys who are on the borderline. Is that something people would be interested in, or not really because the relative lack of significance to the IBHOF?

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by Brickhaus on May 1, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And as for the record

While I agree that he should have the wins over Castillo, Diamond and Corrales (I haven’t seen the Freitas fight, sadly), I did think that Campbell nicked their fight as well.

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by Brickhaus on May 1, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Campbell started fast. But I see no way he could of won. I had it 96-94 Casamayor. And that’s with me looking for rounds to give to Campbell. And you really should check out Casamayor-Freitas. Very underrated fight

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by Violent Demise on May 1, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good match up

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by The Midnight Rambler on May 1, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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