Mandatory Eight Count - Talk is Cheap
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Japan's Uchiyama retains boxing title | AFP
Takashi Uchiyama, as expected, had little difficulty dispatching of Angel Granados to retain his title. Uchiyama knocked out Granados with a right hook in the sixth round.
Lewis speaks on HBO departure | ESPN
In Dan Rafael's latest blog, Lennox lewis waxes poetic (or not so poetic) about his dismissal from HBO's broadcasting booth.
Jhonny Gonzalez knocks out Sotelo in two | Esto
This one was late to make Saturday's roundup, but Jhonny Gonzalez also won this weekend. This likely sets up a bout between Gonzalez and Daniel Ponce de Leon, a bout that has been about eight years in the making.
Golovkin may be targeting N'Jikam | NetBox
While Top Rank paid big bucks to win a purse bit for the title eliminator between Anthony Mundine and Gennady Golovkin, to absolutely nobody's surprise, Mundine appears to be looking in other directions and probably won't sign up for the fight. Golovkin says he's in negotiations with four fighters for the eliminator, including top French prospect Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam. Forces may be conspiring against N'Jikan, however - despite not fighting last month, the WBO dropped him from 3rd to 8th in the rankings, behind a fighter he's already beaten. (Link in French)
Warren: Williams must quit | Sky Sports
Frank Warren hopes that veteran fighter Danny Williams will not go back on his promise to retire from boxing. Elsewhere this weekend, Nate Campbell said he will consider retirement, and Lou DiBella intimated that Paulie Malignaggi might retire as well.
Amir Khan is basking in New York glory after toppling Paulie Malignaggi | guardian.co.uk
Per the editorial, Khan won hearts and minds with a methodical but lethal attack on his WBA light-welterweight challenger. The article also mentions that Richard Schafer is considering a bout between Khan and Michael Katsidis for the end of July, before Ramadan starts.
Knock out: Innocent Anyanwu | Radio Netherlands Worldwide
Innocent Anyanwu, the Netherlands' best hope for a championship level fighter, was upset this past weekend, getting knocked out by Brazilian journeyman Antonio Joao Bento. Video of the knockout is included.
Vazquez - Marquez Trilogy to be re-aired | Showtime
Showtime will be airing the first fight on Monday at 10 p.m. Eastern, the second on Wednesday at 10 p.m. Eastern and the third on Friday at 10 p.m. Eastern, as well as the documentary about the trilogy on Monday at 11 and Saturday at 4. The link has a number of clips that lead up to the fight as well.
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Hmm...
Lot of interesting stuff in the Lennox article, most of it not having to do with Lennox: for example, the note that no third man has been settled upon, and Brother Naazim is getting the same try-out Freddie Roach got? Well, I like both men, but only one of this is apt to talk about dragons and swimming without getting wet on air.
I don't like the sound of Khan-Katisids for Khan...
Katsidis is simply so relentless, and so willing to take punishment, that I think he does end up hitting Khan on the chin at some stage, unless Khan is able to get him out of there. I know Khan’s a strong guy and would have all sorts of physical advantages over Katsidis, but I still think it’s a very tight match-up for him, and one that he doesn’t need before Alexander/Bradley/Maidana. Maidana, in many ways, figures to be an easier fight: sure, he’s going to keep chugging away no matter what comes at him, but I don’t think he has that same energy that Katsidis does. Hmmmm.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
A bit risky.
For Khan’s next losable fight, my preference would be Bradley. Might as well fight the top guy, and I’d LOVE to watch them go at it. If he wants a showcase first, Prescott makes sense to me.
Having said this though, I give him props for considering Katsidis in the showcase slot. Is this a Brit revenge thing? If so, more power to ’em!
Pretty ballsy for Katsidis too. I’d still expect him to lose to Kahn, while he’s surging at LW. I’d rather see Bradley-Kahn and Guerrero-Katsidis, but I’d be happy to watch this fight and I’d give both fighters credit for wanting it.
by geraldmcgrew on May 17, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’d be delighted with this fight to tell you the truth, I just can’t see Khan being willing to take the risk with it. He’d surely be better served fighting Alexander/Bradley/Maidana in America, but still, what the heck!
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on May 17, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i read somewhere, probably boxing scene, that khan v prescott 2 was being talked about as well.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Prescott has been calling him out
Prescott fought on the undercard even, to set up a ‘just in case’ rematch
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He'd mug Prescott.
How many Ls does Prescott have since they fought last? Two? And Khan has come a long way tactically and skill-wise.
We all need to let go of the Prescott thing. It was what it was. We don’t know how good Khan is going to be, but in the past couple years he’s progressed past what happened there. Breidis is just looking for a check.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on May 17, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Khan should fight him either (and if he has to do it, he certainly shouldn’t do it now). But if he doesn’t do it, there will always be some critics out there who cast aspersions on him for “never avenging his defeat.” So that might bother him.
True
The best step to get people to stop talking about it might be to just get in there with him and blast him out.
Like Punisher/Quintana.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on May 17, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
With his new style
I doubt he blasts him out. Maybe a domination, but he probably protects the beard too much to take him out quickly.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
within seconds
Good, so it can’t go any deeper – Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by The Midnight Rambler on May 17, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
My understanding was
that they wanted Khan in a showcase fight in Britain this summer B4 getting back to the business of big fights in the states toward the end of the year. If that’s right, a Prescott fight seems good to me. A Katsidis fight so much the more.
by geraldmcgrew on May 17, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Takashi Uchiyama vs Angel Granados 1/3 (2010-05-17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgkJ_hEFHIE
Takashi Uchiyama vs Angel Granados 2/3 (2010-05-17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyPTNVZ7m1c
Takashi Uchiyama vs Angel Granados 3/3 (2010-05-17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihmcmAAutb0
Terrible stoppage on Innocent. He could have been killed in there.
Good, so it can’t go any deeper – Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by The Midnight Rambler on May 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions
Cripes, was the ref waiting for his head to pop up like a Rock ‘em Sock ’em Robot? I think after the first couple of dozen unanswered shots to the head, it might’ve been time to step in.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 17, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He could have quite easily stopped him after the knockdown. His eyes were glazed over and his legs were just finished. Shocking refereeing, that was genuinely quite scary viewing.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on May 17, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ that was horrific.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on May 17, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
first knockdown reminded me of Bute’s KO of Miranda….except in that case the referee did the right thing
Yeah, it should have been stopped as soon as that first knockdown was scored, he was in a dreadful state. When he was getting beat up in the corner, it kind of reminded me of Arturo Gatti taking 10 head punches in a row against Micky Ward; however, Innocent was in a simply appalling state out there. Shocking refereeing.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on May 17, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
From the article...
He rises to his feet. Bento is waiting for him. The fight goes on. Bento drives the small boxer in the corner of the ring and hits and keeps on hitting. Innocent can’t protect his face any longer.
Music starts pounding in the arena. Dancing girls in very tiny clothes and beer offer entertainment. The muscled men in the hall feel disappointed. They expected more from Innocent.
This last bit is probably just strange translation, but it’s also damn near poetic. Maybe Hemingway’s stuff was just translated Dutch newspapers.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I really have no sympathy for Lennox.
It would be one thing if he tried hard and failed. But he obviously failed to do even the most basic prep on a fairly regular basis. He was always blanking on fighters’ names in the middle of the action, and even when Bob would try to set him up with softballs and gimmes he’d more often than not just whiff on them.
How can I care about his broadcasting career when it was pretty obvious that he never did? And this improvement over time he speaks of is something I never saw.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on May 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
Some guys are just really bad at extemporaneous public speaking. I don’t think we can assume he didn’t try.
I guess.
Seemed like an obvious lack of homework to me, but I guess I should try to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on May 17, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
combo of both. hbo is notorious for not doing homework on fighters.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on May 17, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
lennox’s tenure reminds me of emmit smiths career at espn. its very similar. lack of preparation, nonsensical rants, making up words, unconfortable looking on air, etc.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on May 17, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
Good, so it can’t go any deeper – Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by The Midnight Rambler on May 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t if it was a lack of preparation, but he was never comfortable on air. I always expected that over time he would get better, settle into the role as it were. Never happened. Not sure who they get to replace him (Brother Nazim might be decent). Of course, I would pay top dollar if they hired one of the Mayweather brothers.
They'd have to subtitle the Mayweathers.
And footnote them.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on May 17, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Floyd Senior might actually be a man who could challenge Boom Boom for the most alarmingly terrible broadcaster ever. Here’s a guy who is totally incoherent even in interviews he’s known were coming for many weeks in advance, and where he already knows the questions that are going to be asked. It would be funny to listen to for one or two rounds, but after that it would trigger an avalanche of mute buttons.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I'd be incredibly happy with B-Hop or Tyson
both would be entertaining as hell. I don’t have Showtime, but I hear Tarver is doing well. Is he?
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on May 17, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Tarver’s quite good. Tyson is a distraction and frankly I’m OK without him.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 17, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Hopkins?
When he’s being serious and not self-promoting, he’s a bright guy.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on May 17, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d be happy to see Bernard on there, though I fear it would lead to HBO and Showtime co-producing a Hopkins-Tarver II PPV.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 17, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Though if I got a Kellerman-Farhood undercard fight, maybe I’d be OK with that.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 17, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Paulie can’t dent Farhood.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I plead the fifth
Sort of. Let’s just say I don’t like him too much as a commentator, but I know that Scott and JRok disagree.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Hopkins that is
I do like Tarver
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Traver is outstanding IMO
Good, so it can’t go any deeper – Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by The Midnight Rambler on May 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I find Tarver overrated
though somewhat enjoyable, which is much more than I can say for most of them. I’d expect Hopkins to be decent cuz he knows his stuff and could always talk. The last fighter I really liked as an analyst was RJJ. BAD would be a step down from the WCBs he used to do. Don’t know if he’d be as confident on air either after his recent ring humiliations, but he’d probably get over that. Liked O’Grady too.
by geraldmcgrew on May 17, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think much of him but he is the best of the bunch today. which isn’t saying much at all.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on May 17, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad as Lennox was,
I liked him way better than Foreman, who made me want to turn the sound off.
by geraldmcgrew on May 17, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
khan looks about as intimidating in that photo as 80 year old jimmy stewart was reading one of his poems on the tonight show.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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Jimmy Stewart had hand speed.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on May 17, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He kind of looks like Sam the Eagle from the Muppet Show.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 17, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
haha nice
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on May 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I know paulie didn’t do so hot on sat. But I don’t think he should hang up the gloves just yet. He should train harder and get some more stength in behind his punches.
by LJchamp on May 17, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think it's a hands issue, not a training issue
That said, I think Paulie has more money to make as a pro fighter if that’s what he desires. It would take the right circumstances for him to become a titlist again (the weight class is just much stronger now than it was a few years ago when he won a belt), but I could see him still giving a lot of guys a tough fight.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He's still an excellent fighter, but
he’d be a gatekeeper for rising contenders now. If he wants to make good money for doing that, cool. But that might come too close to the definition of “punching bag” for his liking.
by geraldmcgrew on May 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really impressed by Uchiyama today
Just was dominating for 5+ rounds but the stoppage was weird because the ref was at 8 on his count then he said “get up” a couple of times and then stopped the fight. Too bad Uchiyama is probably gonna keep the title hostage and fight undeserving challengers in the near future.
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