Mayweather-Mosley: Ted the Bull's Prediction and Outcome
by Bad Left Hook on May 2, 2010 8:04 AM EDT
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As we continue our post-fight coverage here at Bad Left Hook, Ted Sares checks back in to look at his prediction from last Monday, and how it compares to the fight's result.
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The Prediction
I see Mayweather avoiding getting into wild and dangerous exchanges with Mosley. Instead, I expect Mayweather to fight tactically and strategically in a somewhat boring bout that will keep Mosley off stride and somewhat frustrated. Mosley will try to lure Mayweather into a brawl, but no one has ever really been able to do that, and I don't think Mosley will be the first.
Sugar Shane has suffered mental lapses from time time, loses focus, and can be lured into doing the wrong things in the ring. To be more precise, he does not, in my opinion, possess the highest ring IQ. Mayweather (40-0), on the other hand, can adapt to and neutralize Mosley's strengths while at the same time exploiting his weaknesses. Floyd's ring IQ is among the highest in boxing. This, in my view, is the major difference and should offset whatever advantage and/or positive adjustments Nazeem Richardson can provide. Mayweather to win by dominant UD, as speed and defense win out.
The Outcome
Mayweather won a dominant UD (119-109,119-109, and 118-110-I had it 119-109), but it was not as much defense and speed as it was offense and speed, as he moved into cruise control around the 5th round and then accelerated the action. Using his patented hard lead rights and superb counter punching, Floyd totally controlled the overly tight (and perhaps over trained Mosley). While he did not potshot as much as I though he would, his lead rights and one-two combinations were enough to neutralize his opponent.
After a great second round in which Sugar Shane landed some punishing rights on Mayweather, Shane seemed to have shot his wad. As Mayweather picked up the pace and began controlling matters, Mosley, discarding body work until it was too late to be effective and using a strange herky jerky motion while setting himself, seemed confused, tired, and at times even ripe for a stoppage.
Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. did nothing in this fight to dispel the notion that he has the highest ring IQ in boxing -- and you can take that to the bank. He also has the best skill-set in boxing and proved it once again in this fight.
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Ted
You should change your alias to H.G Wells.
by Phill on May 2, 2010 8:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'll throw mine in here too
Just for kicks.
Mayweather is a whole new ball of wax, and at 38, Mosley is going to have a hellacious time coping with Floyd’s speed and ring genius. Margarito was able to hit Mosley, whose leaky defense has never been a strong suit. Some point to Oscar de la Hoya’s half-fight successful jab, but Mosley’s never been a great jabber.
Mosley’s iffy D showed up in spades. And Mosley’s jab stunk. He landed a few good ones to the body in the first round, but he’s never had a consistent jab and still doesn’t.
Shane’s pretty fast, Floyd’s faster, and I think some people are going to be really surprised at how much faster Floyd looks on Saturday night.
I’m not trying to sound smug. I suck at the pick’em game over at TBB. I suck at picking winners, really. But this is one I really just was completely, absolutely, 200% sure about. Mayweather is way, way faster than Mosley. Mosley has good handspeed, but he so often doesn’t put it to real use. Roger Mayweather said pretty much the same thing, too, and he was right. I thought the idea of Mosley being in Mayweather’s league speed-wise was just nuts, and I thought the idea that Mosley would be Floyd’s fastest-ever opponent was off too. It was Judah, and it’s still Judah. Judah is still faster than Mosley. He’s not a better fighter, but he’s faster.
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by Scott Christ on May 2, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Judah all the way, he was beating Mayweather Jr. to the punch early but too bad the kid just doesn’t have the right focus.
Mayweather surprised me during this fight because he decided, in some intervals, make last nights fight a fight. Yes, he methodically took Mosley out of his game but I thought he boxed and fought.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on May 2, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I predicted the same but was very impressed...even pleased that Floyd 'made' the fight last night
Floyd is even better than he has been lately. Maybe even more confident. He is certainly stronger and more willing to be offensive … yet not really destructive. He could be but he doesn’t fight that way. Manny Steward has watched him since he’s a kid an said as much. It is just not Floyd’s style. KO’s are no really his thing.
But Floyd has to know what we know. The Shane from who he took the fight so early was not the Shane that he may have fought years ago. My point is that Floyd must know that. When this fight was made the biggest ‘if’ was which Shane Mosely would enter the ring last night. The one we saw a year and a half ago vs. Margarito or the new ‘old’ Shane. I think we all know now it was the latter. Still willing but unable, Shane still fought on. Not even as well as Nazim had thought he would. Brother Nazim saw the quit…the ’Look". I think it both surprised him and annoyed him.
Again credit Floyd. But somewhere deep in his, his fans and our hearts and minds we have to ask why, with all that talent, he waited so long after displaying his supremacy he dared to try to establish his legacy. ( I was watching Oscar at the press conference say he fought both men and lost….and realized that on reason he was so well regarded was the very fact that he fought more great fighters, win or lose, early and throughout in his career than the man he was introducing, the serlf -proclaimed Best. That has to bother Floyd. It bothers me.
Solid post, pakinpower. Lots og grist for the mill in there.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Good one Hool
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
HOOK
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Difference in speed was stark.
Nas told Sugar, “Stay behind the speed and trust that the KO is going to come.”
How can you “stay behind the speed” when you’re obviously slower?
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by The Kittitas Kid on May 2, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You are very good at it, actually.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, usually speed kills, and youth beats old age. Usually. And the result of this matchup was preordained to be a Floyd victory. The ONLY chance had was for Mosely to land a big punch early and KO Floyd…and damn but he nearly did it.
OK, what’s next for both guys. For Shane, retirement, unless his ex-wife takes him to the cleaners. For Floyd, forget about Berto or Campbell; they aren’t big enough draws. What about Paul Williams at 147? Maybe Williams isn’t a big draw, but just the fact that he is so much bigger than Floyd would make it a draw.
I’m assuming that Pacman-Floyd never happens. I will state now that I believe Pacman has as much chance to beat Floyd as did Mosely.
Very provacative stuff, Frank, very.hhmmmmm
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I will state now that I believe Pacman has as much chance to beat Floyd as did Mosely.
has a slightly bigger chance in my eyes, as his footspeed is fantastic. And he can punch. But yeah I don’t think he wins
by Sweet science on May 2, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Williams isn’t a big draw, but just the fact that he is so much bigger than Floyd would make it a draw.
I do believe there’s something to this, as well. It would not be hard for HBO, Mayweather and Golden Boy to get together and market Williams right. For one thing, cut that bullshit about his height. He’s not 6’1", he’s right about 6’3". Make this guy out to be an exciting, extremely dangerous fighter who has a win over the middleweight champion of the world — you’re not even lying. It’s not like when Top Rank was running ads calling Joshua Clottey a “devastating brawler,” which was just a lie. Williams is an exciting, extremely dangerous fighter for Floyd, and he has a win over the middleweight champion of the world. Williams was kind of poorly managed on his way up, but he is easy to make into a viable, sellable threat to Floyd.
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Come on. FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS NOT GOING TO FIGHT PAUL WILLIAMS. Would I love to see it? Absolutely. Is it going to happen? Absolutely not. I deeply respect PBF’s amazing technical skills, and his undeniable natural talent, but he’s not going to fight anyone who presents a legitimate threat to beat him. Right now, those guys are 1) Manny, 2) Paul Williams, and 3) Sergio Martinez. I’ll bet the farm that he never fights any of those three guys.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 2, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
besides
Paul is about to get SCHOOLED by KKKKKKKKERMIT CINTRON, BABY!
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 2, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about that one
It’s been so long since Williams fought a good righty though…
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FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS NOT GOING TO FIGHT PAUL WILLIAMS.
OH I DIDN’T KNOW THAT. I also didn’t say that he would. I said it would be easy to market him as an opponent.
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by Scott Christ on May 2, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure just how appropriate or accurate it would be,
but it’s not hard to bill him as the somewhat second coming of Hearns. People would see the physical similarities and latch on, no? I’d think that’s all the excitement you’d need to generate for Williams/Mayweather.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Just let him stand by Floyd. It’ll look crazy.
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Marketing!
I’m glad you used that term because that’s what it’s about at this point. Certain fights have to make sense.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
People say what they do about Floyd’s resume, myself included, but that was his fourth straight easy win over a surefire Hall of Famer. Add in the win over Chico, the Castillo wins, and maybe even Gatti for different reasons (Gatti could get in because of his entirely unique reputation and how popular he was), you’re looking at four to eight wins over HOFs depending on how you look at the other three.
But same with Manny
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It really is important for those two to hook 'em up.
I don’t even care who wins at this point. It would be a hell of a fight, and the anticipation would generate a wave of interest boxing hasn’t seen in two or three decades. You don’t often have such polar opposite styles with similarly incredible resumes at the same weight.
Boxing needs it.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
the JMM win isn’t exactly admirable
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by battle axe of doom on May 2, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Gangsta !!
Just Gangsta, my man!!
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
No offense
to anyone, but not too much glory in picking this one.
No offense to Floyd, but not too much glory in winning it.
Jr. is going to spin a legacy-years career against aging or smaller fighters.
Floyd might know money but he don’t know shit about how boxing history will see him.
Thank Christ Someone Sees It Like I Do Don
Pretty much what I expected . I picked Floyd by easy decision and I’ve got no reason to give myself a wrap for what was a simple pick in hindsight. If you look at boxing history there’s never been a 38 year old welterweight that was genuinely world class. The worst thing an aging fighter has to deal with is losing speed and endurance . Mosely has neither now. The most difficult thing an aging fighter has to deal with his speed. Watch Shane struggle to catch Cotto once he went on the bike . Floyd is definitely along with Hopkins the greatest technical fighter of his era but I’ll never be a huge fan. I remember Duran fighting Cuevas , Leonard twice , Hearns , Hagler and Barkley who were all YOUNGER and BIGGER than him . Compare this to Floyds stage managed weigt rise fighting the Baldomirs , Hattons and 38 year old Moselys . Leonard fought prime Benitez , prime Duran ,and the monstrous prime Hearns at 147 . Compare this to Floyds resume . Good win by Mayweather but I’m glad I didnt spend 50 bucks on it . Cheers Fellas.
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by JC40 on May 2, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The first round of the first fight may have been worth the price of PPV. After that, the red-headed Alvarez put on
an exhibition that reminded me of a young Benitez. Wow, can that guy fight. He is a 19 year old stylist
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point, JC
about Cotto going on the bike against Shane.
If Margarito could track Cotto down, Shane should have been able to.
by Don From Prov on May 2, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on now. So Ted got it right. Ok. That ain’t news. It’s news when he don’t get it right
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
Not
attacking Ted at all, VD. Just saying that there’s not much glory—for anyonein this pick.
I guess my point is that this win doesn’t = much for Floyd, IMO.
Sorry if the above could be read the wrong way.
by Don From Prov on May 2, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
how I hit the strike-through to turn anyone into a work of art, but. …
by Don From Prov on May 2, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
True. It was an easy one from the get-go, but I had to do it. Also, I''m entiteld to an easy one evrey once in a while.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
VD, You da man
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Smartest indeed.
I can take that to the bank. But best skill-set? That’s arguable, because while Mayweather himself dispelled some notions about his usual lack of aggression by showing he can be more offensive, many other experts feel that his style doesn’t allow him to be as complete as you-know-who (Bert Sugar said that Mayweather is no complete fighter by any means, while Sugar has referred to Pacquiao as a rare, complete one). I’m just saying it’s arguable, Ted, that’s all. These are the kind of provocative statements and observations that make your articles the most controversial and most discussed here in BLH.
Completeness
I actually think Floyd showed another couple of aspects of how complete he is last night. Pac is great, obviously, but is he complete in a way Floyd isn’t?
Okay, I’ll try to break it down somewhat. Floyd’s complete but more defensive, Manny’s complete but more offensive. Mayweather showed that he can be more aggressive but still effective, while Pacquiao’s defense is nowhere near Mayweather’s or any pure defensive fighter’s level but is sound and is continually improving. Both are fast and are great at their own styles… but Pacquiao has more power, despite being smaller (size advantage goes to Mayweather but we’re talking of skill set here).
Will that be a deciding factor between them or when they fight? I don’t know. I can’t say. But in comparing them, that’s what I can easily come up with now.
I mean, those are differences in style, skills, etc. that are of course present. No two boxers are identical. I guess I just disagree with Bert Sugar about what “complete fighter” means, if he thinks Floyd isn’t complete.
Bert is a complete -------!
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Sugar is stuck in the 20s
He thinks Dempsey would have beaten Ali , Foreman ,Holmes , Tyson and Lennox Lewis .
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He is lazy and does no rseearch. I hate that, though he is a nice guy. Also very smart. He has two law degrees and an MBA.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong. WHen the PBF-Pac thing comes around, you just might be shocked at where I will be.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I give Shane credit.
That second round. He did something no other boxer has.
The rest of the fight, Floyd just did what he usually does and what no other fight can do.
It’s always an easy prediction when Floyd fight tho.
But God, those undercards sucked
by Option27 on May 2, 2010 3:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
the alvarez fight was entertaining for a few rounds. ponce de leon nearly made me blast my brains out though
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by battle axe of doom on May 2, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
But he really has improved. Still ponderous, but far less wild.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Floyd did something different.
We’ve seen him get legitimately hurt and come back.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on May 2, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That second round might have been the best thing to happen to lil Floyd in a really long time
by Option27 on May 2, 2010 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great point. It just might be a "growth experience."
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I would argue that he's lived in super-conservative mode
until R3 of the Mosley fight. And let’s not paint it for something it wasn’t, Mayweather wasn’t being Pacquiao out there with his offensive attack. He was just doing enough offensively to keep Shane off balance and prevent any kind of coordinated attack.
I was actually thinking the worst thing for Floyd might be if he buys into his own hype too much and becomes a tad more aggressive. In a shootout with Pacquiao he’s absolutely NOWHERE better than 50/50. I’d have to give a 2:1 advantage to Manny if it’s going to be a high-noon quick-draw contest.
But it still warrants mentioning that Floyd DID come out of his shell a bit. It would be interesting to see how that impacts his behavior in the future, but we all know he’s not interested in taking many more challenging fights, which kind of stinks.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
he did way more than “enough offensively to keep Shane off balance”. He almost stopped him. When’s the last time you heard Shane’s corner threaten to stop the fight? – never.
That fight was over by the 5th and Floyd kept beating the shit out of him through the end.
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A well noted Point!
That was Shane’s worse performance in his whole career. Even better that Forrest stopping him with the body shot because he was completely dominated. What I’m trying make people see is that PBF is the real deal and has the ability to make fighter “LOOK” very bad in spite of there resumes. Please don’t be alarmed at the way he will destroy Manny and make him look like a amateur.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
Mayweather is smart enough to stick to his script. I really don’t expect more from him but what I saw Saturday night was definitely not the regular-run-of-the-mill Mayweather Jr. Which in my opinion is a good thing.
The 2nd round was the best round of the fight and probably the best round for Mayweather’s career as some one else here mentioned.
As far as Mayweather taking on challenges? Well we’ve seen Mayweather try his best to talk up Marquez and we all knew it was crap. After facing Mosley, a fighter that Freddie Roach did not want Pacquiao to face and a guy many people said Mayweather Jr. avoided, hopefully he realizes that the only fights he takes are better challenges.
Hopefully he’ll stop bragging about his undefeated record because at this point, win or LOSE, you can’t take anything away from his legacy as a boxer.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
by VeeisAnimated on May 3, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Manny wins in a shootout.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
There will be no shoot out
The shoot out will be for your enjoyment if it happens.. Us, the fans. But instead an ass whooping that will make people question Manny and his Trainer. Roach already knows that, Mayweather is KIND OF A BIG DEAL!
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
I saw the fight last night at the ranch......
My bro scored the fight / sparring session last night at his ranch in Youngsville, NC…. The event unfolded as I predicted……. Mosley game, but aged and slower than usual….. It happens to all of us sooner or later…….. Fraud Mayrunner is still a jackass but, he has talent and skills, so therefore he deserves his props……
I still contend that 2010 has had many PPV letdowns in which the events have failed to explode with a bang….. None of the truly big fights have lived up to the pre-fight hype as of late…..
Up next on my dance card is “Klit-Sosnowski” on May 29…….. Is HBO airing that event or running away from it????
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MRBILL, I'll watch "Klit-Sosnowski" only if it's free. It's the biggest mismatch in decades. Ask Zuri Lawrence.
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Up next on my dance card is "Klit-Sosnowski" on May 29…….. Is HBO airing that event or running away from it????
HBO is rightly having nothing to do with that disgusting mismatch. It’s affordable, though — $24.95 through Integrated Sports.
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BLH rules.
But what if Sosnowski wins???? As JK said.???
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
If Sosnowski wins I will, in order:
1. Shit my pants.
2. Go crazy.
3. Be kinda happy that it throws a wrench into the Klitschko domination.
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Is Anyone Suprised ?
Yeah no big suprise with the fight result for anyone.I was hoping that Mosely could force a fight but like every fighter that Floyd has faced they’re not fast enough.I don’t see anyone out there right now who can make Floyd fight.Not even Pacman.That said why not let Bradley try Mayweather next ? No Bradley wouldn’t be able to crack Floyd but at least he’s in his prime and could box him a little.The only thing out there that can catch Floyd is pursuing him right now and will eventually catch up to him and expose him as it has all others.And that is Father Time.
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by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
Father Time is UNDEFEATED
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--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know someone who dissagree's
Evanderrrrrrr!
by Sweet science on May 2, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
tru dat
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
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by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, Ray. It's great to see them come aboard and mesh with the BLH veterans.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Ted...
I haven’t read it here on Bad Left Hook anywhere but it is being reported in Montreal and in Canada that Steiglitz has turned down a match with Bute again.How does one go about getting this news to SC or Brickhaus or one of the fine boys on this site ? I want the fans and critics to know this so they know that Bute is doing all he can to fight the best yet he keeps getting ducked ( a la Alan "the fraud " Green).
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by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
Scott will act on it, Ghost. Bute should take a couple of easy fights and wait for the winner of the Super Six.
Steiglits would have been made to order. Maybe Eric Luca if he beats his Andrade (which I don’t think he will). Thta would be a monster draw in Montreal or QC
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Steiglitz
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
He has turned down Bute twice now.He wants nothing to do with Lucian.Bute wants the Jean Pascal/Dawson winner and has talked about that fight.Pascal has turned down Bute in the past as well.Bute wants to avenge his best friend Diconu and fight Pascal or the winner of that fight.
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by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
HE SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM DAWSON
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
No...
It’s a win/win should he fight Dawson.Bute is a much better Boxer than critics know and he could hurt Dawson as well.Even in a UD loss he would be praised since he moved up.BUT that said Dawson wouldn’t fight Bute until after Bute had beaten a big name like JoeC or Hopkins.Or if Bute had a belt like Pascal.I think that fight is a matchup that can and will be made.Who does Dawson have should he get by Pascal (he will) ? Maybe Hopkins but Chad has already gone down that road twice in fighting Tarver and needs a ddifferent type of matchup badly.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bute could hurt Dawson? Does Bute hit harder than Adamek? – I really doubt that. I don’t think Bute could hurt Chad, and I think Bute would be fighting off his back foot for most of that fight.
Chad’s a beast.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
OH, I THINK BUTE MAY HIT HARDER GIVEN THE SPEED WITH WHICH HE THROWS THAT UNDERCUT.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he’s got near the pop on his punches that Adamek does. Either way I’d love to see it.
Chad’s name just doesn’t come up. It should, he’s very good.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
We hopefully agree to disagree
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yea – like I said, I just hope Bute goes after Chad. I’d really like Chad to get some publicity. Guy deserves it.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
100% agreed
Dawson I think is a great fighter – Super 6 and Politics have frozen him out – I’d pick him against aANYONE 160 – 175 !
YES
at 168 and at 175 anyways.AND Bute is also 6’-2" so who knows if or how hard he would punch after packing on 40 or more pounds of muscle like Adamek.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Adamek did hurt Dawson
It’s about the only thing he did in that fight, but he did hurt him.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I doubt Hop would fight Chad. He can’t throw enough punches to even theoretically deal with Chad and he sure couldn’t hurt him.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Chad would beat Hopkins like a drum
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yea – that fight won’t happen.
Who is Chad gonna fight after Pascal if not Bute?
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
??
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see Bute try to deal with Dawson
Chad’s the under-appreciated guy in all of this mix. He dominated, absolutely dominated Adamek over 12 rounds and chased him out of the division. Nobody wants a piece of him. I’d have a lot of respect for Bute trying his hand at Bad Chad. But, I think Chad easily outworks Bute in that one, even in Bute’s back yard.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I’d love to see anyone try to deal with Dawson – guy can’t get a fight.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
He is highyly skilled, but lacks charisma.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
or you could say – he’s a properly balanced individual, and that’s his downfall publicly.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
hahahahaha
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Mosley is exciting in the ring
Dawson doesn’t even have that going for him.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I pay big dollars (or loonies) to see that one
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Trust me...
Bute vs Dawson is gonna happen within the next year and a half to two years.AND Dawson is small boned like Hopkins so he cannot go much higher in weight and carry his power too much.UnlikeBute who will grow to 175 within a year or more.He fit and can make the weight easily but he athletic and strong enough to carry 175 and still be sharp reflex wise,
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
well – Dawson is not a power puncher, that’s for sure.
But Bute’s 6’2" and lean and Dawson’s 6’1". I don’t know about the small boned/big boned dichotomies, but they’re about the same size.
I hope you’re right about the fight happening.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Inside Boxing Sources
tell me that Dirrel will make the move first and a Dawson vs Dirrel matchup is intriguing.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see that one too.
The problem anyone will face with Dawson is his chin and his output. He throws a shit load of punches, and can take a good punch. To me, that leaves Bute with the option of finding a KO, and Dirrell…I don’t know what Dirrell would do with Dawson.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I replied but it went way down to the bottom of the thread.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see Dirrell get schooled by Dawson
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be willing to bet money Dawson is taller than Bute if they stand side by side
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
No...
Bute would never fight Luca as he has mentored Bute.The reason that Luca is fighting Andrade is because both train and fight out of Montreal and the fight will be a huge sellout there.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
PEPSI CENTR?
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't know that.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Posting stuff in the comments if probably the easiest way for us to find it
We have e-mail addresses at the bottom, but I know I personally only check that account about once a week or so.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Merchant last night
was weird. His comment about Mayweather Senior “wearing fur” was way out of place and untrue. And his vicious crack about Ellerbe being a “self-made man that someone else created” was just plain mean spirited. Merchant reminds me of the kid in grade school who would always say something mean and nasty about some one because he was smart enough to know that others might be thinking it but were afraid to say it. The problem is that Merchant is out of step with today’s thinking, particularly when it borders on not-too subtle nastiness. He is a little prick.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
Merchant is a nasty little arsewipe
His contempt for most boxing people is palpable . Considering he is a lightweight drunk who has never written or said anything of value in his entire career in sports journalism you think the rotten little turd have more humility and after 40 years in boxing more of an idea regarding the sport . The bloke talks about boxers like he is discussing dog fighting or horse racing
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Deep down, I sense he hates boxers.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I just e mailed the news to SC.
Just noticed the little letter indicating e mail.Thanks !
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
True That !
or in the words of Lil Nigger Big Punch ( who coined the phrase out of Brownsville NY) True Dat !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
He was a legendary poster on ESB. Then he vanished.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I talk to him and now again.
He volunteered down in New Orleons after the big hurricane.Lil is actually about 6’-6" and over 300 pounds.A good musician too from what he tells me.I haven’t heard from him in over a year though.Good poster but he hated all of the crap.Like me he hates Mayweather and he often talked about his meeting Floyd in a bar in Manhattan.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And
he had family in Toronto so he liked that I was a Canadian.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
Canadians ARE PEOPLE, TOO.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Well,
I’d have to think that’s a reasonable point of debate. j/k
Canadians are pretty awesome at self-deprecation. I used to talk with a few when I was doing commodity sales and they’d always crack wise at themselves from out of nowhere.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
We like to think so !!!
Although our politicians are pussies !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
If I hear from Lil...
I’ll steer him your way.I didn’t know that you knew him though.He did ask me about Josey Wales once though.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
i like how Ted always seems to transform any thread he posts in, into a not-so-private conversation with some of his pals
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on May 2, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
Many of these lads I have known for years. You have to realize that I wrote for ESB for 5 or 6 years and you make a lot
of friends (and enemies). But each and every one of my conversations is open to anyone, because exclusion is not in my DNA. Ghostman is a legendary poster on ESB and I am delighted that he has joined BLH along with a host of Brits and Aussies. Aslo, I was one of the first on-line witers to engae with posters on my threads and it started a bit of a trend. It’s not the easiest thing to do when you are constantly being attacked by maniacs AS ESB does not protect its writers. That’s why BLH rules. You can engage boxing on a civil basis and not have to worry about loons, psychos, maniacs, stalkers, racists, imbeciles, idiots, morons, and worse. Plus, humor plays a great role in a lot of this, and in today’s society, there is nothing wrong with a good dose of humor.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And you should address your posts to me rather than making them generic.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasn’t dissing you or anything, just a general observation. i always sign on to BLH to see a random thread with 50+ new comments, and sure enough about half of them are just a convo between you and other posters. its pretty rad, if you ask me
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on May 2, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Rad? I like that. Peace
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Since
we only KNOW each other from these type of sites it’s all we can do.BUT we are all friends none the less.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
Actually, I have gotten to know a few blokes from the threads and we have become friends and meet and break bread together..
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
Good Morning Mates
Hows our passport difficulties going Ghosty . I’ve got a japanese business man looking to sell me a mini sub mate . ;-)
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Like you JC
I can’t leave the country ??? But unlike you I’m stuck somewhere that’s freezing cold for 8 months of the year !!! Go figure huh ? I’m gonna fight it through all of the way though !!! Gonna learn to sail (strange thing for a prairie boy) and then I’ll sail away to a tropical place !!! Well thats the plan anyways.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I solo-sailed from the west coast to SE asia last fall.
Best move I ever made.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Where are you now?
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Philippines.
It is such a breath of fresh air. For $1000/month I live on the beach (almost an acre of property with 40 meters beach frontage) in a 2,500 square foot house with two full-time employees.
It’s paradise. And everyone here acts like it.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Can we have a BLH meet there?
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't cover the airfare,
but I’ve got an extra room or two. Will take some pics sometime. The favorite local tradition is for a party you eat a whole roasted pig (lechon baboy), but they don’t use the apple in the mouth for some reason ;)
It’s not the perfect area, but there’s something about having the waves lapping the shore to put you to sleep at night. Can’t beat it.
Oh, and I’ve also got like 45 coconut trees on-site. Fresh ‘buko’ juice is great stuff.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
‘buko’ juice? I like it!
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 4, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey JC40
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of friends
here’s one of my favorites !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
OR IS IT JC43?
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
LOL !!! Soon to be JC44 !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions
LMAO Ted
JC 43 soon to be 44 . What fight could Mayweather make where he would actually be underdog and that he would " shock the world" if he won? Dawson at 175? Martinez at 160? I didnt mention Manny as I think Mayweather is to big for him .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Not Martinez. Not Williams, though that would be an interesting one. Pavlik?
How about Margorito in Tijuana. I think Mayweather just might be an underdog in that one given the fact he might not get out alive if he wins.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha Ghosty
Ya got me mate
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Two of my favorites JC & Ted !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
How about Floyd vs Toney JC !!!
I might even pay to see that one !!! LMAO !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
Take it Easy Fellas it was a morning quickie ;-)
Feelings mutual Ghosty LMFAO Im off to take Bubba my drooling mate the bull mastiff for his walkies then Im off to earn a crust . Have a good one you champions !
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
I hope
that you’re not as quick with your wife mate !!! Have a good day JC !!! It’s afternoon here and I heading out for some Chinese Food a la takeout !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
Egg Foo Cat works for me.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 2, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
They say kill the body and the head will die...
so Bute has options.Yeah my guess is that Dirrel would run but that is a matchup that would be fought on the outside so Dirrel has the size and reflexes to compete.Actually there’s a boatload of talent entering the SuperMiddleweight division.Tons of fighters top 50 that are soon to be household names.It’s packed.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions
That post was a response to Icollins post above.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on May 2, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
Period!! End of story!
"I’m not saying Manny Pacquiao’s not a good fighter [because] he is a good fighter," Mayweather said. "But I have the will to win when I get up under them lights. Like I said before, we may all hit the bag alike. We may all do the pad work alike. We may all jump rope the same. But we don’t all perform under the lights the same."
Well said my man, now back to you Jim.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
Here we go with the size issue again
For me, as long as the drug test is not done close to the match, I’ll agree because if they’ll get blood from me close to the match, it will be a disadvantage for me because I’m smaller and he’s big," Pacquiao said.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
I understand how it's sort of ridiculous that Floyd has decided that he's now the commission
But I also understand how woefully inadequate doping testing is nowadays. Take the fucking tests Manny.
It's a great way to avoid fighting Manny as well.
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Round 2
Was a snapshot of how I saw the fight playing out beforehand. One round out of bloody twelve! I thought the 38 yr old Mosley had an Executioner-esque performance in him but that’s boxing.
Floyd, be like Duran, be like Leonard and dare to be great. Fight Martinez , fight Williams, fight Manny for fuck sake!
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
He might fight
one of them Goaty—the smallest one, but I wouldn’t bet on any more than that.
Larry Merchant...
Larry: Shane what happened out there?
Shane: I was stiff out there
Larry: Shane you have been a professional boxer for 18 years. Why are you stiff?
Larry: So what’s next for you Shane will we see you again?
Shane : I will go home and review the tapes and see what went wrong and decide from there.
Larry: Good Bye Shane, you HAD a great career.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
Perfect. You caught the tweeker at his best
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing that JC40 said above about Merchant acting like these guys are horses struck me as being very true. I never quite thought about it that way, but that’s exactly what it is. He barely recognizes them as fellow human beings, it seems. It’s really off-putting and I’ve had more than enough of him. And someone needs to tell Kellerman we don’t need or want another Merchant. Kellerman is actually quite good when he’s being himself.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Agree 100%
This has been the most life-affirming thing for me, to know you're valued and then show your resolve to not just curl up and die,
--Nick Charles
by The Midnight Rambler on May 3, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
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