16 months later, Antonio Margarito still stirring up emotions

I doubt he actually looks any different against Mosley.

I agree with you

If for Some Miracle he Get’s BEAT then I have No Respect and He’s a Cheater

Well, he is a cheat. We know this, it’s a fact. I personally think what he did was abominable, and that the way he is handling his return shows how little he deserves it.

He served his suspension and should be allowed to earn a living.

He has not served his suspension. There was not a time frame on the suspension. There was only a time frame on when he could reapply, and he did, and he was turned down. He also tried to skip past California and go through Texas.

People continue to make the mistake that it was a “one-year suspension.” It was not. It was an indefinite suspension with the one year being the time he could reapply. I’m not saying it’s the exact same thing, but this is like saying a prisoner has served his time simply because he can apply for parole.

Nevada clear Margarito of any wrong doing.

This is a huge overstatement. They said his wraps were OK for the Cotto fight by their inspection. Do you expect they’ll go, “We didn’t look too hard, really. I don’t know.” The California guy was about to send him to the ring for the Mosley fight, too. Naazim Richardson forced the issue, not the commission. They were fine before he said anything.

I think you are correct in saying there is no proof he cheated in any previous fights. Yes, we can’t claim to know the truth there. However, I think saying he might’ve cheated in those previous fights is also an educated guess that is definitely plausible, not completely out of the realm of possibility. For instance, no one can dispute that Margarito has a great chin. However, it might be easier to resist punches if after a few rounds your opponent is so tired that his punches don’t carry the same power anymore. If Margarito was wearing loaded gloves, the stuff he had would’ve taken a few rounds to harden because they lacked the appropriate liquid (sweat in this case). As Margarito’s punches got increasingly harder, Cotto’s got increasingly softer. I know triangulation doesn’t really apply in boxing, but how was it that Margarito couldn’t handle Shane Mosley’s power but he could handle Cotto’s? Doesn’t that stink a little bit? Doesn’t it seem like maybe Cotto’s power might’ve been diminished by something, say a few bricks hitting his body? I dunno. We’ll never know. But it’s definitely not laughable or ridiculous to think that Margarito cheated previously. In fact, he would have had more reason to cheat versus Cotto than against Mosley, after all, Cotto was his claim to fame and Cotto had already beaten Mosley. So why try it against the man who got beat, but not against the man who was undefeated at that time?

but don’t you think that it is highly probable that Shane Mosely used steroids in more than one fight.

What’s your view on Mosley, Vargas, Jones or Toney fighting? Why are/were they able to continue with there careers without much backlash?

All should be banned and the key thrown away….or all should be returned to their sport after serving punishment.

Rules are rules.

The law is clear

It’s not about the law, or about comparisons to gun violence. It was a case heard before the CSAC and the result was the firm revocation of Margarito’s license. People keep saying “suspension,” but let’s call it what it is. He was told he’s not allowed to box anymore in California (which other states follow suit on), but that he can apply again later.

On the other hand, Mosley admitted that he iintake an illegal substance without knowledge, and won the fight. And it is clear he had an advantage ove De La Hoya by having used a substance that made him stronger. He should be taken away that win and give it to Oscar.

The win should be erased, but should not be given to Oscar. I know some will disagree and it’s hard to do it without a failed test, but Mosley admitted guilt. Why is that not a no-contest now?

And if they don’t want to let him earn a dime on them, well just don’t fight but don’t be chicken shiet and talk trash, specially coming from a boxer, if they think he is a cheater back your words with your fists and have someone of your complete trust to check when he wraps his hands and lets see the outcome of the fight.

You’re missing the point. He would still get paid to fight them, and they object to his being paid at all. The rejection is not so much the idea of fighting him, but the idea of Margarito fighting at all.

I am glad to hear your side, though. A lot of us aren’t happy he’s returning (overall, I think I’m more ambivalent than anything, because I hesitate to say he cheated in every fight he ever had), but I know of course there are many fans out there who believe he’s been punished and deserves a second chance. Thanks for the post.

90 % of me wants Antonio banished from boxing, 10% of me (my barbarian ancestory) wants to see him climb back in there and rematch Martinez. A wise police officer once told me “son you never get caught the first time.”

You walk into a house armed but your robbery is foiled. You’re carrying a loaded deadly weapon – your intentions are clear – you’re prepared to kill if necessary. Now, you attempt to cheat on your honey, you mos def get another chance, I’m with ya there bro! But as far as boxing goes IMO he crossed the line. End of.

A “test” for Boxing Illustrated was done in 1964 by one guy who said “hey this wouldn’t help anybody.”

Boxing Illustrated conducted an experiment to test whether it was possible to use plaster of paris successfully under fighting conditions. The results were reported in the May 1964 issue of BI, pp 20-24, 66. Hugh Benbow and Perry Payne (manager and trainer of Cleveland Williams) used plaster of paris on Cleveland’s hands and reenacted what Kearns said occurred in Dempsey’s dressing room. After 35 minutes of toasting to reenact the 114-degree heat of Toledo that day, Cleveland Williams hit the heavy bag five times. Benbow examined the wraps and found that the plaster had cracked and crumbled. “This stuff,” said Cleve, “wouldn’t do anybody any good.”

The Boxing Illustrated test proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the plaster of paris would not have held up after the first punch, it would have crumbled and left chunks in his mitts and every punch thereafter would have been quite painful and there is little doubt he would have broken his hands. The inventor of the product issued a statement as to the impossibility of using plaster of paris without breaking all the bones in the hands. Dempsey’s hands were not broken and he continued to punch with authority with both hands. This alone dispels the idea that Dempsey’s gloves were loaded with plaster of paris.

It is not nearly as cut-and-dry as that blurb makes it seem. For one thing, it was a re-enactment of an allegation. For another thing, Boxing Illustrated also reported on pro wrestling as if it were a genuine sporting event. For yet another thing, it was 46 years ago and hardly qualifies as “scientific.”

It’s a question if a one year ban is nearly enough punishment for that many consider to be the most heinous crime in boxing.

Also, if he fought Martinez now at 154, I think Martinez walks all over him. Martinez has gotten a lot better, and Margarito has probably faded.