Bad Left Hook Live Boxing Results and Commentary: Paul Williams v. Kermit Cintron
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 9:20 PM EDT
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PrintTonight on HBO World Championship Boxing, Paul Williams and Kermit Cintron go one-on-one at 154 pounds. It's a dangerous fight for Williams, who is right on the doorstep of a major fight, and a huge opportunity for Cintron, who can barge through his own doorway with an upset win.
The HBO broadcast starts at 9:45pm EDT with the replay of Mayweather-Mosley from last week, and then goes live to Carson, California sometime around 10:40 or so, for the Williams-Cintron fight at the Home Depot Center.
| PAUL WILLIAMS | KERMIT CINTRON | ||||
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| Record: | 38-1 (27 KO) | Record: | 32-2-2 (28 KO) |
| Age: | 28 | Age: | 30 |
| Hometown: | Aiken, South Carolina |
Hometown: | Houston, Texas (Carolina, Puerto Rico) |
| Height: | 6'3" | Height: | 5'11" |
| Reach: | 82" | Reach: | 74" |
| Ranks/Titles: | Bad Left Hook #3 (160), Ring #2 Contender (160), ESPN #2 (160), BoxRec #1 (154) | Ranks/Titles: | Bad Left Hook #2 (154), Ring #2 (154), ESPN #3 (154), BoxRec #2 (154) |
| TV: | HBO - 9:45pm EDT | Venue: |
Home Depot Center - Carson, CA |
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Been said before
But can HBO PLEASE get a new picture of Paul Williams? He looks absolutely terrified in that one.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 9:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
America’s #1 Boxing Fan Former Heavyweight Champ Mike Tyson™
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Larry Merchant has at least one even round in every fight he broadcasts.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
I hope people are re-evaluating their “WHY DIDN’T SHANE GO FOR IT WHEN HE GOT HIM HURT?” questions from last week. I thought then he went for it. He clearly went for it. Mayweather did some great stuff here to hang on and recover.
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Floyd is so relaxed.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
Spoiler: Floyd wins the rest of the fight.
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You are so banned.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
So many celebrities and they didn't even show Mariah Carey and her two friends?
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
Mariah and the wonder twins
Mariah Carey’s breasts are the world’s 4th largest inland body of salt water.
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by Brickhaus on May 8, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Williams didn’t hold a title in 2006, Jim. Cintron did for two months.
2008 is what you want. 2008.
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I wish there was something better on somewhere
ESPN Classic is showing “classic” boxing. Panchito Bojado. They have a messed up definition of classic.
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I was watching an old ep of Fat Albert today (don’t ask), where the gang defined classic as “all old and stuff.” Dumb Donald then grew up to be an ESPN Classic programmer.
by El Destruyo on May 8, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
think I'm gonna switch over to Lakers-Jazz
I done seent this fight. I SEENT IT.
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Anyone watching the Top Rank live locker room feed from the show in Mexico? They just wrapped Margarito’s hands and did it the tape then gauze then tape method that Tito got busted for trying before his fight with Hopkins. I guess that way must be legal in Mexico…
Mexico will cater to whatever he wants to do. If he wants to put flamethrowers on his gloves I’m sure it’s OK.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You might have to
If Arum has his way.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
:bloodpressurerising:
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 10:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's legal in most places
Just not in New York
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Hmm, didn't know that
Interesting
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 10:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Watching Mosley go “aw come on man, that’s not nice!” when Floyd cracked him when Mosley wanted to touch gloves and be buddies was pretty sad for me. It was like “Jesus, Shane. Hit him, then.”
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They're going to end up ruining the A-Team
I hate it when they remake these old shows into bad movies.
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"I'm sorry, I can't stop staring at your hair."
HAHAHAHA!
BECAUSE MR. T HAD SILLY HAIR!
I REMEMBER THAT!
BUT NOW IT’S 2010!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
THAT’S GONNA BE SO FUCKIN FUNNY
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't help it
B.A. Baracus is a huge Rays fan.
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With Mayweather attacking, Nick Cannon stands.
Mariah Carey stays seated.
Mariah Carey knows Mayweather isn’t going for a finish.
Stupid Nick Cannon.
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But Nick Cannon's hilaaaarious
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Oh for the love of God, it’s Ellen Page.
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What the hell is going on with that dumb A-Team movie anyway. Liam Neeson as GEORGE PAPPARD? That’s the dumbest idea I’ve heard all week. That guy can barely speak with an American accent. He looks like he’s in pain when he tries, and its one of those phony sounding ones anyway.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Best movie for accents in recent years may be Elizabethtown. Orlando Bloom’s terrible American accent, Kirsten Dunst’s worse Kentucky accent.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes you appreciate people like Hugh Laurie, whose American accent is so good that people who don’t know his previous work are shocked when they see him in interviews with a British accent.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Same with Stephen Moyer
Who plays Bill Compton in True Blood. But Hugh Laurie is a great one for that.
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by Brickhaus on May 8, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Michael Caine is the best. Doesn’t matter where his character is from, it’s always the same. “Oy, Oym Micheal Caine. Oym frem Detroit!” He’s still great, though.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
hahaha
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Costner might be worse with accents
As far as I can tell, he’s never even tried through multiple roles where he SHOULD have had an accent.
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Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Love that one; it’s obvious Costner gave up on his horrible British accent somewhere around the middle of filming, but, of course, movies aren’t filmed in sequence, so the awfulness is sprinkled throughout.
I watched a terrible flick with Liam Neeson recently. I can even remember the name of it, but it was set mostly in France and he was an “American” trying to find his kidnapped daughter. Ugh. Terrible.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Taken
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
By the beginning of the 12th
Mosley just had all the will sucked out of him. Naazim is practically screaming at Mosley, and he just has this vacant look as if to say “why are you bothering – I can’t do anything anyway”.
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Couldn’t someone have popped Chris Brown after the fight? Would’ve gotten the biggest cheer of the night.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
hater
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
my favorite Chappelle sketch ever
“What can I say about that suit, that hasn’t been said about Afghanistan? It looks bombed out and depleted.”
and of course
“She wear underwear with dick holes in ’em.”
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So many
The racial draft
Wayne Brady
sam Jackson beer
etc etc etc
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sam Jackson beer
JUICE? THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
For my money, it’s the post-death Tupac song. “I wrote this song a long time ago / a really long time ago…”
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
“So you’re saying all fighters are taking steroids?”
“That’s not what I said.”
Larry Merchant has asked some stupid questions in his time, but that’s up there. That was the most blatant attempt to get a controversial quote I’ve ever seen. It had absolutely nothing to do with what Mayweather was saying. He might as well have asked his thoughts on “Weird” Al Qaeda.
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Whoa. Lampley hacking out “Dzinziruk” was funny. And I’m not breaking balls. It was just funny.
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He miffed it
And Cintron looks like a cancer patient with a shaved head
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Weights tonight: Williams 163, Cintron 162
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Is this the same venue as Williams-Margarito?
That fight was outside wasn’t it? Or De La Hoya-Forbes?
WTF
Merchant isn’t in top form tonight
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Good to see such a strong crowd
/sarcasm
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They were giving out empty seat costumes at the door.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Paul is such specimen. Down to 154 tonight, next fight who knows? 168? Elasticman.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
referee's instructions, about to get underway
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Mayweather will fight a Klitschko before he fights Paul Williams.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
It’s not just that he’s good. it’s that he brings no money.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
10-9 Cintron
But Williams came on towards the end of the round. He needs to up his workrate.
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Williams-Cintron R1
Cintron with a jab. Williams with a long left just off the mark. Cintron with a windmill left hand that clips Paul. Williams lands a solid left. Williams with a left to the body. Two left hooks by Cintron land. Williams misses a long left. Cintron looks really focused and relaxed, and so does Williams. Cutting a decent pace in the first round while feeling each other out.
Kermit misses a long right. Both land sharp shots in close, Williams with a hard right uppercut at the end of the first.
Cintron 10-9
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Cintron 10-9. It’s at the pace Cintron wants right now, did some nice counterpunching.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
R1 10-9 Cintron
Paul came on late though.. I do think Paul is going to get caught with a big shot in this fight.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Did Williams' corner just tell him he did "excellent" that round?>
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Yeesh, has a punch landed this round?
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Williams-Cintron R2
CompuBox had Williams at 1/32 with the jab in the first round. HBO REALLY needs to give up on Paul Williams having a jab. He doesn’t. It’s not just that Cintron is right-handed. Williams’ jab stinks and he doesn’t care about it.
This pace is all for Cintron. First minute goes by without any action. Crowd starts booing they’re doing so little halfway through the round. Cintron is at least flicking shots. Cintron loading up that counter right, just missing with it. One or two landed there, but not clean or hard. Williams feinting, Cintron not biting at all.
And now they stop doing anything again. Williams with two pretend jabs and a left that misses, but Cintron doesn’t land in return either. Cintron really trying to find that one right hand. Williams does absolutely nothing this round. Cintron didn’t do much either, but he’s up 2-0.
Cintron 10-9
Cintron 20-18
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Should be 10-10, but I’ll say 10-9 Cintron. 20-18 Cintron.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
R2 10-10, cintron 20-19
Dull fight so far.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
20-18 Cintron
Paul looks confused. Not fighting his kinda fight. Kermit ain’t doing much himself but he’s landing the cleaner shots
At least Manny's not showing any favoritism towards his former fighter
20-18 Cintron. I don’t know if Williams landed a punch that round.
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Timmy Hearns is closer with these guys.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
"Kermit Cintron's cat-like reflexes"
…
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic again
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I know
I was just piling on.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
"Wind turbine on a windless day"
Seriously, WTF
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10-9 Cintron, 30-27 Cintron
I landed more punches on Cintron than Paul did these last two rounds.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
R3 10-9 Williams, 29-29
Mostly on workrate.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
30-27 Cintron
Another one where he came in stronger at the end, but Cintron landed the only two solid punches of the round.
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Williams-Cintron R3
Body right by Cintron. Williams flicks that jab out four times. Not one of them looked like it had the intent to really land. Cintron with a counter right, not clean. Crowd is clearly losing interest. Well, actually, patches of the crowd (and growing) are getting pissed.
This fight is pure tactics. It stinks so far. First round was alright. Nobody’s taking the initiative. They’re piling up a few punches thrown stats, but they’re mostly flicking for-show jabs.
Williams attacking a bit, but Cintron lands a left hook. Williams misses a ton of punches to end the round.
Uhhh…
Cintron 10-9
Cintron 30-27
Cintron was busier.
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Cintron 29 Williams 28
Gave it to Paul just for showing some life in the second half of the round
He’s swingin’ slow. Real slow
THERE we are
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Wow
Both of them fo down, and Cintron still seems to be down
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Williams-Cintron R4
Hard left hook counter by Cintron, but Here comes Willaims. CINTRON WITH A RIGHT! Staggers Williams just a bit! Here we go!
Left hook again by Cintron, and Williams is all over the place. Williams falls on the mat, CINTRON FLIES OUT OF THE RING TO THE FLOOR!
Oh boy. He might not be able to fight. He’s still down.
He’s hurt. He’s clutching his knee.
He’s got five minutes. We’ll continue if the fight does.
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That was some Jimmy Snooka shit right there.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
He just missed the Spanish Announce Table
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
"If we fight, I’ll need more speed because Mayweather is fast."
--Manny Pacquiao
by lildrummerboy on May 8, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
looked like his back
hit that little tv
by tylerrcurtis on May 8, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The roll looked to have avoided any major injury
But I wasn’t the one who fell, maybe he did hurt something
Cracked his right knee on the apron. And may have hurt his back.
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Stretcher’s coming out. This is over.
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He’s not in any serious danger, but he’s sure as hell not fighting anymore tonight.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Shame too
Cintron was doing about as well as he could have hoped
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“Hey, look, there’s Fernando Vargas in the khaki shirt…” “The heavyweight.”
Steward’s amusement at his own joke really got me.
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Just when they were starting to fight
This isn’t going to help Paul’s case for a huge fight much.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cintron looks really frustrated
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I sort of wish that they’d shut up while Cintron is talking.
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and now it goes to scorecards?
ugh, thats awful.
/goes back to UFC 113
What?????
Scorecards????
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Scorecards?
Are you for reals? Seriously???
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This is the stupidest fucking scoring idea I’ve ever seen.
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no he wants to fight, he’s arguing with them. he said “you can’t take this fight away from me, man”
A promise is comfort to a fool.
WHAT!!!!
Are you fricking kidding me!!!!
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WILLIAMS-CINTRON SCORES
39-37 Williams
40-36 Williams
40-36 Cintron
And it’s even horrible scoring.
Fucking moronic.
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It’s not that bad scoring. Honestly, it ain’t. I had two and three for Williams.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Giving Williams a 4-0 at that point reeks of “well he’s supposed to win and I can’t make up my mind…”
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Was giving Cintron 4-0 any better?!
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-- Fritzie Zivic
I thought
There was at least one, if not 2, 10-10 rounds in there. It was a really funky fight.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Much
I only would have given Williams the 4th, but I could see an argument for Cintron there. In every round, Cintron landed the best pucnhes.
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Well… maybe for you it was… I see you gave Cintron every round. And I’m sure you were totally secure in giving him every round, right?
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-- Fritzie Zivic
I would have given the fourth to Williams. So I had 39-37. 38-38 seems fair enough. 40-36 for Williams seems ridiculous. He definitely did not win the second round.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I gave him the second round. More effective punches.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
I could not disagree more.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But this is a fool’s argument. We’re talking about three rounds and change of a fight that could have gone anywhere.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn't even land a damn punch in the second
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They landed about the same number of punches in the 4th
And while Williams seemed to land more solid, he was shaken by a really good punch from Cintron. On the wobble, I gave the abbreviated 4th to Cintron (39-37 Cintron)
by chadplusplus2.0 on May 8, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Clusterfuck
Poor cintron
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rematch with Sergio if Pavlik doesn’t exercise his rematch with Sergio, or a rematch with Cintron I’m guessing.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So Cintron wanted to fight and the doctors said no.
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Yeah it looked it by the way he laid there not moving
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on May 8, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Cintron
Will come out of this better off than he entered.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
CALIFORNIA
America’s dumbest state
"If we fight, I’ll need more speed because Mayweather is fast."
--Manny Pacquiao
This is not the way we wanted this to happen.
Daisuke Naito fights tonight,ya’ll thinking RBR his fight
probably not
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't blame you,he should win.
But are you gonna RBR the Uchiyama fight next monday (the 17th)
not unless I'm up and literally can't find anything better to do
Uchiyama’s fight is a total mismatch.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I know but the guy he's facing is 6 feet tall
huge for a Super Featherweight/Jr.Lightweight
I still can’t quite chart CIntron’s momentum to take him out that direction, but I took Physics for Poets pass/fail.
Where?
That sounds like a class offered at my university.
It looked like he was off balance and just stumbled forward and through the ropes.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he's from South Carolina
Then moved to Georgia.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They speak that brand of English.
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ynahmsayin
yknow
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
As Tom Lehrer said:
“He’s from Georgia / and doesn’t speak the language very well…”
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That sucks.
Looked to me, especially in slo-mo, like he hit his right shoulder/neck on the corner of the apron before he hit the table. I think that was what did it. He put his glove up behind his head (like it was his neck) immediately after he hit the table. If the table did it, it would have been a lower back/rib injury, and he would have put his gove down towards his hip.
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My bad
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Pavlik declines the rematch, according to Larry.
by Verklemptomaniac on May 8, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
Williams Vs. Mayweather would suck as a fight
.
by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
Every time Larry Merchant talks I feel as if my TV is moving at half the framerate
A promise is comfort to a fool.
HBO is still under the gun to call Williams 6’2" apparently.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
They were going 6’1" earlier. I think they’ve bent to go to 6’2" if they’re saying 6’2".
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by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
that was terrible...
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"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Pavlik officially rejecting rematch with Martinez...
Great – maybe that’ll free up Money-Martinez. Can’t see Floyd taking that though.
Floyd’s been the one talking it up. I think he sees something we don’t; or thinks he does, anyway. Personally, I don’t think Floyd’s got an in there.
Martinez would be a very easy fight for Floyd, he is way to SLOOOOOOOW
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see it… why because Martinez deserves a fight like Mayweather after his performance vs Williams.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Martinez desreves mayweather for beating Williams, wow
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Pavlik’s only fight is to face Bute….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
He'll fight a chump
Arum ALWAYS has his big guys take an easy fight after a loss.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I’m not counting that as official until someone else says it. What exactly did Merchant say? From what I could tell, he was saying that someone said either right before or right after the Martinez fight that it would be the last time Pavlik fought at 160. Taylor said that before the Spinks fight, too.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Martinez against Floyd, why would WE want that fight
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah i am serious, Martinez is a B fighter, he beats slow prodding guys
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
And to this one, there’s only one thing to say: This isn’t an argument worth counter-arguing. I may as well be telling everyone that Floyd Mayweather is a one-punch knockout fighter, or Manny Pacquiao is seven feet tall.
or Corey Spinks makes exciting fights, or Paulie has career ending kO power, or Casamayor is the most upmost and clean fighter in the ring.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Actually, he already took a 154 belt he never defended (De La Hoya), and there’s no way he’s going up to middleweight.
Martinez is middleweight champ. They could fight at 154 for that belt.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't elevate Martinez because he beat a slow pavlik
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Martinez are Williams good fighters, not great never will be great, they are passing moments in this sport
you will hardly remember either when they are done fighting, they wont be in the HOF write it down, in fact Martinez will gone sooner than you think, Carlos Baldomir anyone
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Martinez will be gone soon because he's already 35
But he has more talent in his pinky finger than Baldomir had in his entire body.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I never said that, but all you mentioned are B to A- fighters
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Which he all beat, in the opinion of many boxing fans. So if he beat a fighter you acknowledge is an A- fighter, how can Martinez be a B fighter?
so i guess buster douglas belongs in the HOF, styles make fights
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It was also an unusual performance for both. I don’t agree with you on Martinez, but Martinez-Williams was not the usual fight for either of them.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You think martinez is Elite level like maywaether and pacquaio
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but I think he’s better than you’re giving him credit for. He’s a hell of a lot better than Carlos Baldomir.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps he is, but not much better IMHO
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s way better, BUT, I think Baldomir stunk really.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey…. SC…. Martinez is a B level fighter. Don’t doubt him.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
If you grade harsh, I can see Martinez as a B. Mayweather and Pacquiao are the only As in the sport, IMO. There’s a vast gulf between them and everyone else.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i think there are plenty of A fighters,
i think Martinez has a couple of good wins and performances, but he has NOT destroyed anyone or dominated them with his Skill,
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
are being a jerk because i am dont agree with you
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Martinez is a world class fighter… it doesn’t matter what letter grade you give him….he is world class and proven himself vs the best fighters that are willing to fight him.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
WoW, that is high praise for a guy who has a long way to go still
World Class huh, wait a minute are guys related or something
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure he isn’t. I’m certain you’re delusional. If Martinez is comparable to Baldomir, is Carlos Monzon shitty too? The only thing they have in common is being Argentine.
i am referring to having a couple of big wins and now being hyped up
Sure i think martinez is better, but i also dont think he is all world YET
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by teabaggingexper on May 9, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i would say pavlik, because he has better quality wins at this moment in time, just not quite elite material
Martinez is a good fighter, reminds me of a Glen Johnson level fighter
Williams is overrated and bound to get knocked out with all the openings he leaves
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you trying to get at comparing Martinez’s level as a fighter with Glen Johnson’s?
Glen Johnson is as tough as they come, and I would give him the benefit of the doubt against anyone in the light-heavyweight division, excluding Chad Dawson.
If you’re comparing them in any other way, i.e stylistically or in terms of actual talent, that’s just nuts. Martinez has been very impressive as of late and he’s demonstrated it against legit fighters.
I am only referring to their talent level, nothing to do with style or substance
both are tough and going to give anyone a good fight
but both are beatable on any night if you are willing to work for it
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by teabaggingexper on May 9, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Just like anybody is “beatable” on any night, even Mayweather. Look man, no point in arguing with you. You have your opinion that most would disagree with, but that shouldn’t stop you from holding that opinion. But you also shouldn’t continually trash a fighter up and down this thread with no real basis to do so other than that opinion.
Exactly...
I think it would be a cracker. Both are fast, smart and Martinez can hit hard. It has the makings of a great fight.
Not sure Floyd is talking it up. I mean, outside of Pacquiao there’s not much else he can talk up. I see it as know different than Pac talking Foreman after Cotto. Talk: nothing more.
I think it’s too risky for Floyd.
Any chance this gets changed to a No-contest
Seems warranted, in my opinion, and that of everybody who’s weighed in on the subject.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
I dunno
But that surely seems appropriate. Plus, it might be an additional incentive for a rematch. It should definitely be somewhere else. Why did they schedule this in California anyways? Two east coast guys in the middle of a very classless crowd (I saw some people cheering when Cintron went down)
this time next year Martinez wont be on the top 10 P4P
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by teabaggingexper on May 8, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions
Blah blah blah blah blah… Say something interesting or go away.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
wrong
He’ll rematch Paul Williams, and this time get the W. He’ll then be left to rematch Cintron, or maybe fight Foreman if he gets the win over Cotto to add another trinket to his collection.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 9, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think falling out of the ring and injuring yourself should be a unique enough of a circumstance to bend the rules a little, disregard the scorecards and declare it a no contest.
"Mug an old lady, and if you have the right connections the WBO will rank you seventh." -Steve Farhood
by BloodMeridian on May 8, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Anybody have an update on that other boxing card?
"Mug an old lady, and if you have the right connections the WBO will rank you seventh." -Steve Farhood
we'll get there on the FP tonight
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 8, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
After tonight
it has become abundantly clear that P4P, we have:
1. Manny
2. PBF
(switch them if you like)
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everyone else
Paul Williams and Martinez, who most have at 3 and/or 4, just aren’t in the same league.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 8, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What did this night have to do with Martinez? Ya, Williams didn’t look all that great in the first 3 rounds of tonight’s fight, but that shouldn’t discredit Martinez’s standout performance (and win, IMO). I still think a Martinez-Mayweather fight would be interesting—not saying that Martinez would win, i probably wouldn’t bet against Mayweather, but I still think Martinez deserves to be in the top 5 P4P.
Williams DID beat Martinez (narrowly), and Paul’s flaws and limitations are becoming more and more apparent. I’d favor both Manny and Floyd to defeat a boiled-down- to meet 147 Williams fairly handily. I also strongly favor Floyd over Martinez at 154.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 9, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this statement, Williams flaws are really starting to show
Martinez does have alot of heart though, but i think he would lose to mayweather easily
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by teabaggingexper on May 9, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
and let me restate
the height differential between Manny and Paul could well be too much. But I think Manny is P4P significantly better.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 9, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Mayweather is using Martinez like Pac has been Yuri and Valero to create an illusion that there’s an alternate to Pac/Mayweather. That’s not to slag Martinez who is clearly a top fighter, and someone who I think would give Floyd problems at 154
by sillycaboose on May 9, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Money-Martinez
would be a dreadful fight at 154, I fear. Martinez is slick, but Floyd is slicker and we’d be treated to a relatively boring 12 round decision for Floyd, IMO.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 9, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
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