Mandatory Eight Count - Hall of Fame Edition
by Brickhaus on Jun 14, 2010 8:10 AM EDT
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Oscar de la Hoya says Pacquiao-Mayweather match nearly finalized | Digital Journal
Legendary boxer and president of Golden Boy Promotions Oscar de la Hoya says the highly hyped match between Manny Paquiao and Floyd Mayweather is close to being finalized. We've heard this song and dance before, and at this point, I'll believe it when they have the press conference. Hat tip to FlyByKnight.
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International Boxing Hall of Fame inductee gives inspirational talk | The Oneida Daily Dispatch News
This past weekend was induction weekend for the International Boxing Hall of Fame. This article goes over some of the festivities, including video.
Tommy Hearns on Emanuel Steward, The Kronk Gym | Boxing FanHouse
FanHouse caught up to impeccably dressed, 51-year-old former six-division world champion Thomas Hearns for an interview covering Steward, Kronk and Superbad. Hat tip to Soulrise.
Devon Alexander coming home for next defense | KSDK On August 7, Devon Alexander will be making his next title defense against Andriy Kotelnik at the Scottrade Center in Alexander's hometown of St. Louis. On the undercard, Tavoris Cloud will be defending against Glen Johnson in what could be a great fight. On the sidebar of the article, there are a number of interesting videos, including interviews with Don King, trainer Kevin Cunningham and Alexander himself.
Marco Huck to take on Matt Godfrey | Bild.de
While in Canastota for the IBHOF festivities, promoter Wilfried Sauerland stated that Marco Huck's next fight will come against Ring top-10 ranked fighter Matt Godfrey. Sauerland was the only promoter inducted into the Hall this year, although in many ways, he appears to just be hitting his stride. In addition, Sauerland has still been mentioning the idea of a cruiserweight super six, which would almost certainly include Huck, Steve Cunningham and Yoan Pablo Hernandez.
Danny Lopez leads hall of fame class | Associated Press
BLH's own Ted Sares has been a long time champion of the cause to get Lopez into the Hall, and it honestly seems like this couldn't have happened to a humbler guy. Other inductees include Howard Cossell (represented by his son), Billy Miske (represented by his grandson), Jung-Koo Chang (who says he'll be returning every year, like many other hall-of-famers), Sauerland, New Jersey boxing commissioner Larry Hazzard, Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler and manager Shelly Finkel.
Introducing Charlie Ota | The Boxing Bulletin
TBB's Japanese correspondent Sidney Boquiren sat down with Japanese-based American fighter Charles Bellamy, AKA Charlie Ota. Ota provides some interesting perspective on a situation that not too many Americans face, but that he has in common with a lot of other fighters - trying to win and build a base outside of his home country. Ota is getting close to a title shot in the junior welterweight division, so his name may be one to remember in the future, especially with such an interesting story.
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Good stuff BrICK
Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
TV situation for Alexander-Kotelnik and Cloud-Johnson? That’s a solid card.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 14, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
HBO BAD
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
For a second I thought that was being written in Hulk’s voice.
by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, and this time, if it falls apart, my cup of Haterade will never run so full for Oscar.
by El Destruyo on Jun 14, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
our cups may runneth over.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
by lcollins1 on Jun 14, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love this comment.
Simple, funny, and so so true. :)
Now, Tweek, boxing is a Man sport. There is nothing in the world more Man than boxing. It is Man at his most Man. So when you spar with Ned here, just dig deep into that most Man part of you. (Uncle Jimbo, South Park: Tweek vs Craig)
yeah
I won’t believe anything The Bobfather says either.
by garapataman on Jun 14, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Manny Pacquiao still listed as a Golden Boy fighter?
Because if he is, and Oscar has options on both guys, then surely he’d be in a fairly decent position to know what’s going on?
Now, Tweek, boxing is a Man sport. There is nothing in the world more Man than boxing. It is Man at his most Man. So when you spar with Ned here, just dig deep into that most Man part of you. (Uncle Jimbo, South Park: Tweek vs Craig)
No, and he never was
They listed him for a little while, but turned out that Pac signed the contract while he was still under contract with Top Rank and the contract was invalidated.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
But they retained options on him, didn't they?
I’m sure there was some talk on here about it for a while, and it transpired that Oscar was still retaining options for a guy he was effectively trying to screw over, therefore Oscar won either way. Might have been to do with the early Mayweather negotiations, or maybe the fight with Hatton (who Golden Boy also had options on, didn’t they?)
I might have that wrong, but that’s the way I remember it.
Now, Tweek, boxing is a Man sport. There is nothing in the world more Man than boxing. It is Man at his most Man. So when you spar with Ned here, just dig deep into that most Man part of you. (Uncle Jimbo, South Park: Tweek vs Craig)
I don't know how many options they had on Pacquiao
Hatton’s US promoter is GBP and has been since he split with Warren, so no options there. If there was an option, they may have used it on Pac-Hatton. But if they did have options, it would have made sense to use them on Pac-Cotto or Pac-Clottey. Makes more sense for them to use an option on a card they otherwise would have no financial stake in rather than to use it on one they’d be co-promoting anyway.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Sort of
But he’s hired GBP as a “consultant”. In reality, he’s with GBP, just they get a flat fee instead of a cut.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Options
Mind explaining how options work in boxing? Does exercising an option give you a right to a percentage of a purse? Would you get options through prior bout agreements?
Depends on what the option is
I might do a full article on this sometime, but it’s all a little opaque. A lot of times, in order to get a certain fight, the other promoter will get options over the fighter. That will give the promotional outfit the option to promote or co-promote one or more of the fighter’s fights in the future.
The promoter generally makes the overage rather than getting a cut. For most fights, what the fighters get paid is a relatively fixed expense – usually a flat dollar amount, but sometimes also a percentage for the bigger events. If the card earns a total of $3 million, and the costs are $2 million (including the costs of paying the fighters, paying for the venue, equipment, judges, referees, etc.), then the promoter would get the $1 million difference. Basically, the promoter gets everything, then cuts the checks at the end of the day. Although a lot of the other guys (trainers, managers, etc.) get paid by the fighter himself, after he’s gotten his cut.
The way the game is rigged now, the promoter has the most upside and the least risk. Options are theoretically a way to mitigate risk though. If your fighter loses, his ability to bring in big crowds decreases. The option allows the promoter to be in more of a win-win situation, because then they can promote the next fight of the fighter with his new found popularity. It also gives them a bit more leverage to get the fighter to fight one of that promotional outfit’s fighters next.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
As would I
Interesting stuff Brick.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jun 14, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i got a series trying to make sense of alphabet soup coming up
After that, I’ll keep this on the radar. Another one I might do is business models of the major promoters.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Jun 14, 2010 8:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Looking forward to all those
The business models of promoters especially.
by soulrise on Jun 14, 2010 9:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone seen Hawk Jr. fight?
I heard that his skills weren’t that great. Thoughts?
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
I have. They are not all that good. Ahout like Hearns's son.
Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Hearns' son might be better
But probably better than Paez’s son.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
But not as good as Chave'z son.
Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Oscar de la Hoya says Pacquiao-Mayweather match nearly finalized | Digital Journal
I really hope this is true, WOW i can’t wait to see this fight happen if it does.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
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