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Sibbo vs. Collins: Blast from the Past

Tony Sibson

Bad Left Hook welcomes back Ted "The Bull" Sares for another feature. This time, Ted looks back at a 1983 fight between Tony Sibson and John Collins.

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He [John Collins] could put you to sleep with a right hand.

--Tim Kane

He's got a big mouth.

--Marvelous Marvin Hagler on Tony Sibson

I don't know where he got that from, unless he's just using it to psych himself up...All I've said was that I'm excited about fighting him because I think he's the best middleweight...

--Sibson, mystified, on Hagler

Tony Sibson (1976-1988)

After watching David Lemieux recently dismantle Elvin Ayala in Montreal, I was reminded of another compact, strong fighter with a somewhat hunched stance and that was Tony Sibson who fought in the 1970s and 1980s and was regarded as one of Britain's best. He was Commonwealth and European champion and a serious world title challenger

When "Sibbo" was on and had trained properly, he was a very dangerous fighter. He was a stocky scrapper who came out of the Belgrave gym in Leicester. Going undefeated in his first 25 bouts, he finished with a great record of 55-7-1and was seldom in a dull fight. After losing to Kevin Finnegan in 1979 with the BBBofC British middleweight title at stake, he reeled off 14 straight wins, including TKOs over former world champion Alan Minter and Bobby "Iceman" Coolidge and a points win over talented Dwight Davison the later being a final eliminator for the WBC Middleweight Title. He then met Marvelous Marvin Hagler at the Centrum in Worcester, Mass on February 11, 1983. Hagler (55-2-2 coming in) pummeled the shy and affable challenger decking him twice as he stopped him in the 6th. Sibson, badly cut, was game and courageous, but simply did not have enough to stand up to Hagler's relentless fury.

His next fight would be against John Collins in Atlantic City on October 8, 1983.

John Collins (1980-1986)

Like Sibson, Chicagoan Collins had a stellar amateur record and got off to a great pro start winning his first 29, 25 by way of stoppage. Most of his fights did not go beyond the third canto, and this may have contributed to his later downfall. Among his victims were Teddy Mann, a fading Oscar Albarado (58-11-1 at the time), undefeated fellow Chicagoan Lenny Lapaglia (19-0), and a prime Kenny Whetstone (23-1).

When he fought in the Windy City, the good looking and tall (6'1") Collins had the appeal of a rock star. Indeed, he brought out the City's South Side Irish in droves. When his fights began, the place would erupt into chants of "Collins! Collins! Collins!" The fans would go wild when he put together slick combinations and landed his signature straight-right cross which carried menace and finality when it connected flush.

The Fight

Collins was the undefeated favorite when he met Sibbo who was coming off the aforementioned loss to Hagler. A win by the Collins could well position him for a big pay day fight against the Marvelous one, but it was not to be.

In the first round, a fit and ready Sibson hit his taller opponent with solid jabs and some damaging short rights. Sibson was a great inside fighter and that's where the he was doing the early damage. Then, with 27 second left in the round, Tony cornered the Irishman in a neutral corner and rocked him with two vicious left hooks and a brutal head-snapping jab that had all of his weight behind it. Again trapping him in a corner, this time his opponent's corner, a crunching hook sent Collins to the canvas, but he was saved by the bell and his corner quickly tried to revive him.

The second round began as the first ended and it was clear Collins had not fully recuperated. Sibbo quickly sent Collins down with a powerful straight right and then finished him off with a series of short but effective shots that sent him sprawling across the ring and then onto the canvas for the third and final time in the fight.

It had been a Chicago-style mugging, but this mugger was not a Chicagoan.

Later

Sibbo had bounced back with this sensational two-round win (which was highly reminiscent of what Andy Ganigan had done to Sean O'Grady in 1981). Just like that, he was back in the middleweight mix. Unfortunately, he then lost by TKO to lanky and slick Don Lee (again in Atlantic City) in an up and down thriller that he seemed to be winning until he got caught cold in the 8th. He then won 5 in a row including a UD over Mark Kaylor in 1984 at the Arena in Wembley. In that one, he captured the EBU (European) Middleweight Title, the Commonwealth (British Empire) Middleweight Title, and the BBBofC British Middleweight Title. However, he lost badly to Dennis Andries in 1986 in a fight for the WBC Light Heavyweight belt, and then to undefeated American Frank Tate in 1988 in Birmingham--this time for the IBF Title. This would be his last fight. As an aside, a CS gas canister was reportedly thrown into the crowd, causing fans to start rioting. Many were overcome by fumes from the canister, and they reacted by engaging in numerous scuffles. Not exactly a Minter-Hagler situation, but definitely nothing to feel proud about.

Collins would assume the role of fringe contender and go 5-1-1 before retiring in 1986. In a bit of bubble bursting, John would later KO Mark Holmes (32-0 coming in) to win the USBA middleweight title. Holmes was the over-hyped brother of heavyweight champ Larry homes. But he himself would be waxed in his last fight to Robbie Sims, Marvin Hagler's half-brother and a vastly underrated fighter. Earlier, John received a gift 10-round draw against "Bronx Bomber" Alex Ramos when they met in Chicago in 1984 in a fight I witnessed at DePaul University. Many thought Alex had been terribly robbed. Believe me, he was. Affirming this notion, the Bomber had broken Collins's jaw, cheek bone, possibly some ribs, and had rendered his face a bloody mess. But beating a good looking Irishman in a Chicago boxing ring requires a bit more than the bludgeoning Ramos gave Collins. Still, Collins finished with a highly respectable 34-2-1 mark and an even more impressive KO percentage of 81.

Sibson and Collins fought during a time when television gave us a great number of entertaining fights and fighters. The middleweight division was dotted with names like Taylor, Fletcher, Ramsey, Green, Mugabi, Parker, Kalambay, Roldan, Starling, Curry, McCallum, Kinchen, Benn, Singletary, Thomas, Nunn, Tate, Hamsho, Collins, Watson, Graham, and many, many more. Tony Sibson and John Collins were both game and exciting fighters. With a combined mark of 89-9-2, they certainly did nothing to detract from the luster of this great time in boxing.

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Ted, another great article mate. You wouldn’t believe the dramas I had to go through to be able to get back on BLH. Well I’m on.. I go under the name Serbian Vlad on this site .
Keep up the Great work mate !

by Serbian Vlad on Jun 15, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, my Serb mate!

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Serbian Vlad” is an excellent handle.

by taco pal on Jun 16, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he also is an Aussie and agreat mate. You can see him on my site with Danny

Green and Paul Briggs. He proves me with agreat Aussie connection to boxing along with JC40 and Goatsnake.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed watching Sibson fight.

But the name that brought a memory up here was Lenny Lapaglia.

by Don From Prov on Jun 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Lenny was very good and the fight with Collins was a very big deal in Chicago at the time.

Italian from Melrose Park vs Irisman from South Side. Wow!

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great piece of research and attention to detail

by dollarbond on Jun 15, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, mate

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony Sibson

As game as they come and beat some good men.

by BoxingWriter.co.uk on Jun 16, 2010 5:24 AM EDT reply actions  

From Ray Gordon Reid

  GOOD WEDNESDAY MORNING BADLEFTHOOK BRICKHAU SCOTT CRIST TED TONNY SIBSON JOHN COLLINS SARES yOUr GOOD FRIEND RAY GORDON REID WAYCROSSGEORGIAJAN1/11/1955 ANOTHER GREAT ARTICLE DONE BY THE MASTER HOW WAS INTERNATIONAL BOXING HALL OF FAME TEDY OUSAID WHILE BACK YOU WERE GIONNA SENDYOUR NEW BOOK TED SARS IS INTERNATIONAL BOXING HALL OF FAME

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

From Jacquie Richards on of the Retrired Boxers Foundation. She is excecutive director and I'm trying to get hger on BLH.

“Ted,

“Alex [rAMOS] LOVED the article and so did I. Of course, he liked the second to the last paragraph the best. He wants me to put the article on Facebook on our Retired Boxers Foundation page. Would that be OK with you? If not, I understand.

“Hope you are feeling well. You are DEFINITELY writing well! :)”

Hugs,

Jacquie

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

so “Kid Blast” is the “Midnight Rambler”. Am I the last one to figure this out?

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Jun 16, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

What was the reason for the change, by the way? Just curious.

by taco pal on Jun 16, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a long story, but I knew Kid Blast back in the early 70s when I lived and worked in NYC.It was a nodding and remote relationship but we were both boxing and modern jazz fans and that was

the connection. He was cool. Dressed the part as well. Of course, his brothers, Larry and Crazy Joe are now dead, but as far as I know, The Kid is still alive and in Brooklyn on President’s Street where he owns a few great Italian eateries. He is about 80.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Maybe. But being last means that one did get where one was going.

by Don From Prov on Jun 16, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of like that Mexican cross-country skier at the 1988 Winter Olympics. He was so far behind everyone else that they sent out a search party to make sure he was OK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/winter-olympics/7054862/Winter-Olympics-2010-the-cool-runnings-club.html

by taco pal on Jun 16, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

hhmmmmmmm

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. You sure know how to dot the “I” and cross the “ts”

by pugknows on Jun 16, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Not always, but I tried to do it on this one because there was a lot of grist for the mill.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a tape of:

Robbie Sims ICING John Collins from 1986 somewhere in a box…………. Collins had to lose weight prior to the opening bell and looked like a limp dick against Sims………. It was an ugly loss for Collins……

I was sold on Sims in 1986 and ’87, but he proved to be not as good as he was hyped or thought to be……. Sims failed in about 3 title tries……..

His 1993 loss to Vinny Paz showed just how far gone Sims was by then…….. ARGH!

NOTE:

I thought Duran did enough to get a solid draw with Sims in their epic ’86 fight in Vegas…….

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 16, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

My man McCall drops a

Clear-cut decision to Tim Iggy last night, but I kinda’ sensed he would……. Iggy was too young and spry for the powerful but snail speed McCall in 2010………

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 16, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

At leats Ollie was not arrested after the fight, That's something.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

least

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was a big oliver fan too. pretty sad to see whats become of him.

i’ll always have the night he cleaned lewis’ clock though. good times.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Jun 16, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most insiiders though Sims was very underatted. He had great whiskers and was technically

very sound. He fought some tough customers like DeWitt, Hard Rock Green, Murray Sutherland, Barkley (who he starched), Tony Chiaverini, Benn, Kalambay, etc.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

hard rock green!

theres a name i haven’t thought of in a while. i saw him live in one of his comeback fights vs bryant “bb” brannon. sad to see he was stopped late. pretty ill advised comeback to begin with but it was a night i wouldn’t forget at the blue.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

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by sonofapsycho on Jun 16, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember when he kind of broke Mugab's bubble. H e had him hurt bad, but couldn't finish

the Beast.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mugabi

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wheather in victory or defeat Sibbo was always honest in acessing his preformance, he freely amitted he was not in love with the game, but that didn’t stop him being a very fine middleweight at a time when the divison boasted some real talent.
Sibson would have burst some overly inflated bubbles had he been around today.

by ybsteam on Jun 16, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen to that!

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Little Read Ted

I remember the hype on pretty boy Collins . The Chicago Micks thought they had a good one .Sibbo ruined him . Sibbo was never in a boring fight , Ted . Like you said he always seemed like a top bloke , perhaps a bit too nice . He was unfortunate to fight Hagler when Marv was at his absolute peak .Sibbo fought better opposition than many moderns Pom fighters . Minter , Hagler ,Kevin Finnegan ( a really underrated fighter) , Dwight Davidson, a prime Andries , Kaylor , a prime Frank Tate ,Dangerous Don Lee who definitely used to live up to his name , shit that bloke could whack. Cheers Ted .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 16, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d rate Sibsons resume above say Calzaghe even though Tony wasnt as good a fighter . Its a bit different facing a prime Marvin Hagler in your first title shot like Sibbo did than beating a Chris Eubanks who had lost twice to Collins in his last 5 fights . Too many frigging divisions , too many bloody titles . End of rant . Cheers Blokes.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 16, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

But a bloody good rant.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is the youtube on this fight. Didn’t last very long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQnZt_U7h-U

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by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Here is Sibson - Hagler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peDzSB43tdM

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 16, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

You sure do like Brit fighters, don’t you?

by pugknows on Jun 16, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I sure do. They are more compelling to write about. They also don't leave much in the ring.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another Gem, by Uncle Ted.

by HoboMullen on Jun 17, 2010 12:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks, lad

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh good stuff Ted!

My dad’s from Sibbo’s old stompin’ ground of Belgrave; Leicester fighters are close to my heart. Tony fought more like a Yank even though he trained above a British pub! No soft option for Sibbo hey JC. He loses to a prime Hagler then immediately returns to the States and hammers the undefeated Collins. No soft-arsed-bastard cherry pickin’ for our Sibbo.

Minter often used Tony as a sparring partner but Sibbo was the defending Euro champ when they met. Minter never fought again. If he was around today? Sibson v Pavlik is a cracker well within his grasp. – Ted, Sibbo’s still considered a folk hero by the Leicester people and I’m going to forward your piece to my dad in Tasmania- he’ll love it. Cheers mate.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 17, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Great Stuff Goaty

Mate ,as far as the Pomgolian fighters go I defer to your knowledge . ;-) Fighters might not have been technically better 25 years ago ( although I’d argue that as well) but they were WARRIORS . Like the MMA blokes are now . Cherry Picking wasnt an art form either.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 17, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pomgolian fighters?

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Ted

That’s an Aussie word for England . Pomgolia .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 17, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah. Thanks, matey

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good onya JC - too kind Brudda.

Looks like a few of the young blokes in Tweed Heads are in need of a positive outlet. I know all that Bodhi-like seeking of yours is nothing short of sacred but how about giving training a go?

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 18, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, please do, Goaty. That would be cool.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Tough SOB

 Wow Ted I was thinkin’ about Tony Sibson a few weeks ago, along with Hagler and Antuofermo, Dwight Davison, Doug Dewitt, Boogaloo Watts, what a tough bunch of M/Ws. Thanks for the memories, Mr. Sares

by Iron Beach on Jun 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Beach. Great to see you here. I read your great posts on ESB all the time.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ted.. Speaking of Brit fighters,

I’m a bit young for Sibbo, but I see you mention Billy Schwer on your site. Did you see him fight Newton Villareal if my memory is correct. He gave it all in that fight, he was so shagged at the end he could barely speak. Classic hard fought contest that one. Cheers Ted!

by Phill on Jun 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Phil, I do a story about Billy in my second book and talk about that brutal fight. I know Billy to a small degree.

He was a warrior. So was Davey Boy Green.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, we are getting lots of new posters from Europe. That is cool.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Off topic......

But while looking at my master tape of “Sims-Duran,” I found my copy of “Weaver-Ruddock” and “Bones Smith-Bey” all from ’86…… YEAH!

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 17, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Bey was pretty damn good. Better than most people think. Very fast hands.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Spot On Ted

Bey v Holmes was a top fight . Larry ruined him . Like Ted said he had surprising hand speed for such a big bloke and a wicked overhand right . Shame about his conditioning . Holmes laid a really bad beating on him . Propbaly the last time Larry looked dangerous as far as speed and power go .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 17, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I have "Holmes-Bey" too

on tape from HBO 1985………. Holmes was great in dissecting Bey within 10 rds…….. Bey was tuff early on, but same as Frans Botha today, Bey shoots his wadd early on and then fades away to sleep later…….. Holmes TKO’d Bey in round 10………..

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 17, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Cheers Bill

I remember watching that fight live on network tv here in australia like it was yesterday . Homes v Bonecrusher Smith was around that time as well . It was a better fight than Tyson v Smith . Larry used to be expert at outboxing big immobile heavies . His jab was perfection.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 17, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Alrite JC.

Your man “Zorba” did a number on Little Kev Mitchell there mate the other week.. fair play to him, he’s a f’kn animal!

by Phill on Jun 17, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A Greek Aussie. Go figure!!

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by Kid Blast on Jun 18, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yassou Ted ;-)

 Melbourne used to be the second largest Greek city in the world after Athens .Thessaloniki has since pinched position number 2. I grew up in a Greek neighbourhood in Brisbane ,Ted . http://www.thegreekclub.com.au/ The old man used to take the family for a feed there once a fortnight . http://www.paniyiri.com/ Brisbane even has a Greek festival every year . Souvlaki , Greek Lamb , Spanakopita, Kouriabiedes Its the best food on the planet mate .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 18, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yassou mates

A Greek Aussie household is a warm place hey JC, especially for an 8 yr old Pomgolian immigrant tasting home-baked baklava for the first time! Ted, Greek is the fourth most commonly spoken language in Australia after English, Chinese and Italian. Port Melbourne is an old Greek community Ted, I’ve bumped into Stan the Man Longinidis – former HW kickboxing world champ – a few times down Bay St.

Tosca Petridis – kickboxer/boxer who fought my Aboriginal mate Colin Weetra in his pro debut – then fought Iran Barkley in his second fight!! George Sotiropoulos – UFC MMA , Glen Lazarus – unstoppable rugby league legend, Stan Lazaridis – superfast Socceroo. You’d often face a tough Greek boy in the amateurs down here Ted. My first loss was to Sam Koulianos – bloody southpaw!

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 18, 2010 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here, Greeks are lovers; not fighters.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 18, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries Eros.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll send you an email to back it up

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by Kid Blast on Jun 18, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!

Then there’s Bluey Koutoufides. Kouta plays for Carlton, the Blues!

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 18, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Queenslanders Phil lol We might not look pretty but we always have a go . Micks little bro is a gun jockey , Phil . Another sport you need balls of steel in . Cheers Mate!

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 17, 2010 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Just watched two of those fights Ted..

Sibson Collins really did look like man vs boy, against Hagler though, well, that’s another story!! Harry Carpenter made it sound like Sibson was doing better than he was though.

by Phill on Jun 17, 2010 9:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Man, I loved Harry Carpenter. That don’t make ’em like that anymore. I should have been born in London for Chist Sakes.

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by Kid Blast on Jun 17, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

they

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 18, 2010 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Ted,
When is your next book going to be out? And are you working on another?

by dollarbond on Jun 18, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Sibson

An excellent article by an excellent boxing writer. I remember Sibson and Collins as well. They would probably be champions today and they are not forgotten. John Mugabi would probably move to the top of the division quickly also.

by Tex Hassler on Jun 18, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, Tex. The Beast would feast among today's middleweights. Serengeti time

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by Kid Blast on Jun 18, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

First want to say that I am glad to be on this boxing place…the old home I had..just isn’t a home anymore. As always Ted the Bull you are spot on.

by NJ Big T on Jun 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome aboard, NJ Big T.You will find minimal rancor here, super exchanges, great boxing fans, and very intelligent blokes

from all parts of the world. BLH is agreat site and growing by the day.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Great article Ted . I can just about remember the latter half of his career . I’m gonna catch some of him on youtube . Nice one .

by Sir Jack Daniels on Jun 18, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, Sir Jack.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 18, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll prolly miss

“Ward-Green” manana on HBO…….. My bro’s Brazilian wife is on vacation from her job as a Nanny and is residing at the ranch until next week…… It kinda’ cramps my style too……. ARGH!

I saw the WW2 film plot to kill Hitler (Valkyrie) that starred Tom Cruise last week on Cable……. Not bad….. OH! The mission failed……. Hitler survived the bomb attack…. Cruise’s character was later captured and shot on the firing line along with several key officers….. Germany didn’t “F” around with traitors in 1944……… WORD!!

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 18, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That movie was a tad too tricky for me. Like the Titantic, I didn't know how it would end--ha ha

Who do you like, Ward or Green? Hard one to call because if Green connects, Ward goes to Bumps City Dreamland. But it’a big “if.” Meanwhile, I just glanced at one of the threads on ESB and OY has posted over 600 times on one thread. Go figure! Think they pay him to do that?

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 19, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

600?

And those are just the ones without an alias Ted!

by Phill on Jun 19, 2010 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It was unreal. Tark probably did 400 posts. OY is losing it. Just when I thought he might

have become somewaht normal and decen, he goes ape shit and goes after anyone and everyone except Vivek where he practices bile -inducing, puke provoking, stomach turning, bowl moving, nauseous political correctness. He has ruined many threads with his overbearing nastiness. But the site loves him because he is a post churner.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 19, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

As someone that loves History…I felt the movie was good and just enjoy it myself..but again…I enjoy reading history..just wish my spelling was as good as my reading.

by NJ Big T on Jun 20, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading makes spelling come easy. The more you read, the better you can spell.

Reading is the best thing a person can do in my humble opinion. It expands knowledge, broadens your perspective, and often inspires. Reading has been one of my life’s true joys. Read, read, read, and then read some more.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 20, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

LMAO

Come on Ted reading is great and all but better than sex…NAH.When I was in lockup all I did was read but what I missed the most…well it sure wasn’t reading.

It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.

by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Not if you are almost 73. Raeding, golf, writing rule.However, I do note that Rhona Mitra is on TV

tonight and it simply does not get any better than Rhona Mitra.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 20, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing is better than sex.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 20, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

just

having fun with the way that you said it.Had you said the best thing you can do for yourself then yeah you’re probably right.But what you said was the best thing that you can do.So you see…lol.

It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.

by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 20, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny

posts with our Aussie mates Goatsnake and JC40 about the greeks in OZ and all.Greeks are hard headed good folk but like the French they spend too much time looking at themselves in mirrors.Although the French are looking at their faces the Greeks are looking somewhere else.I have more than few good Greek friends so it’s all in un.YES their food is excellent too.

It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.

by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Greek food is unreal--in fact, food is unreal--though I am finally on the mother of diets thanks

to John Goodman. Soon, I will be known as Ted The Calf.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Jun 20, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Ted, if someone were to ask you what your main signature was in writing, how would you reply?

by pugknows on Jun 21, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

That's an easy one, Pug.

I like to write about lesser known boxers and give them their due.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Jun 22, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Well I would say that Ted

’s due as a writer is that he is a great lover and defender of people.From a grass roots level Ted is down to earth and that is what makes him approachable and popular.

It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.

by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 22, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

As far as the sex, haven’t had any since dec 2001.

MR. BILL, I watched Valkyrie with Cruise.
Interesting.. would of love 2 seen him kill hitler.

by HoboMullen on Jun 23, 2010 3:36 AM EDT reply actions  

NICK CHARLES

My prayers go out to Mr Nick Charles.

by HoboMullen on Jun 23, 2010 3:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Planet Boxing

Uncle Ted, Planet Boxing.. I’m digging the title.

I have said this more than once,
Ted, is my favorite boxing writer.

by HoboMullen on Jun 23, 2010 3:41 AM EDT reply actions  

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