Andre Ward shuts out Allan Green in Oakland
by Scott Christ on Jun 19, 2010 11:26 PM EDT
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It wasn't even close.
Tonight in Oakland at the Oracle Arena, Andre Ward stayed unbeaten, kept his WBA super middleweight title, and clinched a spot in the Super Six semi-finals with a totally dominant rout of Allan Green. Ward won on unanimous decision scores of 120-108 across the board, which was the same score Bad Left Hook had.
Ward (22-0, 13 KO) started a bit tight, but by the third round was cooking with gas. Most surprising was that he physically bullied and manhandled Green (29-2, 20 KO), and made the 30-year-old Oklahoman look like a club fighter. Ward threw nearly 200 more punches, landing 42 combinations compared to Green's measly six.
Right now, Green is scheduled to face Mikkel Kessler next. Though he he has but miniscule hope to advance into the tournament semifinals, he could still leave the tournament with a title belt and a big win should he beat Kessler. Part of me wonders if Green will even take the fight, but it would make sense to do it. It's a title shot (could be the last he'll get), it's a money fight for him, and a win would effectively turn his career around 180 degrees. But all of his bad habits were there tonight, and it's worth wondering where he'll be mentally after this embarrassment.
Ward will take on his close friend Andre Dirrell, in a fight that's make-or-break for Dirrell. Ward, with a belt, an undefeated record, and a blossoming star career, will surely not be looking to take it easy.
Antonio Tarver Update: Tarver did his usual good job in the broadcast booth, really taking Allan Green to task. After the fight, Tarver talked about his own career. He managed to take a shot at Danny Green for ducking him, with no recollection, it would seem, of the time Tarver's team completely screwed Green around back in 2007. Showtime had run promos for a Tarver-Green fight for December of that year, and suddenly it was off because Tarver never had signed the contract, and he took a much easier fight with Danny Santiago instead. Anyway, after his ill-advised dig at Danny Green, Tarver said he's moving up to heavyweight. Tarver turns 42 in November.
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Ward has clinched
But Green could still advance to the semis. If Ward beats Dirrell, Abraham beats Froch, and Green knocks out Kessler, then Green advances with 3 pts to Froch’s and Dirrell’s 2.
One could argue that Green looked like a clubfighter because he IS a clubfighter.
Anyway, another solid performance for Ward.
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Green isn’t a world class fighter… there was a reason why he was left off. At least Taylor was a world class fighter and dug deep and gave it his all when he fought.
Tarver should fight Cunningham… maybe then Cunningham could get a US Tv date.
Ward is just damn good… I would love to see him vs Bute.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Tarver would get killed by Wald,Vitali or Haye by the way but everyone knows that except Tarver.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Talked to Doug Fisher after the fight and, like the rest of us, he thinks that Tarver as a heavyweight is dumb idea. Also he said that no one will figh him but I smell a Valuev match in the making…
by Waldo Rastel on Jun 20, 2010 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I was coming here to post this points scenario in response to the write up. It isn’t likely, sure, but Green is still alive by a thread. More importantly, however, even if he doesn’t get the KO and wins a decision, he’ll be in line with relatively big money fights after the tournament with whoever else is eliminated, Bute, the Pascal/Dawson winner, and even people on the level of Bika. There is tons of incentive to fight Kessler.
The incentive isn’t a question.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 20, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn that was horrible. The gamble on Green failed. And failed badly. I backed him thinking he knew this was his big chance and was going to let it all out. I also expected some what of a let down from Ward. That’s what you call swinging and missing badly. Ward fought an outstanding fight. But he didn’t even have too. He could of fought a mediocre fight and still would of beat Green. Green was that bad. From the 4th round on I just wanted him to take a beating. It was obvious he didn’t have the heart to be champion. The only think Green didn’t disappoint in was that everybody pretty much knew he had an excuse already lined up in case he lost. And sure enough he did.
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
by Violent Demise on Jun 20, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
I was disappointed with Green, too. I really don’t dislike him the way some people do, but he was God awful out there. You’re right — Ward could have fought an “eh” fight and probably still won. Probably even still shut Green out. But he took it to him.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 20, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Missed the fight, because I’m traveling in Italy right now. I’m glad to here that Ward’s trajectory is still a high one. Like I’ve said before, the guy is a special fighter.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
"hear" not "here." Duh.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Green was piss poor.
If he’d thrown some punches but just been outboxed from the outside, then that’s one thing, and I think what most of us expected. But it was the way in which he allowed Ward to push him around and just showed no resistance from the 4th round on.
Seriously, he doesn’t deserve to fight against Kessler in the next round. The guy hasn’t done anything to deserve to be in the tournament, let alone to fight for a title. If I were Ken Hershman, I’d advocate trying to set up a fight between Green and Kelly Pavlik for the right to fight Kessler. If Kelly wants to fight at super middleweight, try and bring him into the tournament! He’d eat Allan Green alive, and it would give the 6th fighter some sort of justification for being there. After that performance, and on the basis of what he’s achieved so far in his career, Allan Green devalues the tournament by being there.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
Ward fought an excellent fight, and Green fought an incredibly bad fight. It wasn’t super-fun to watch, but it was interesting. Ward is a style-spoiler with some broad similarities to a Calzaghe or Hopkins. If you’re going to beat him, you’re going to have to sacrifice looking good, plus obviously throw a lot more punches than Green did.
I thought the same think watching the fight,
that he is a style-spoiler, in these last two fights he completely shut down any opportunity for Green or Kessler to mount a serious offense.
Also, I can’t remember ever seeing a fight where someone (Green) just allowed themselves to be so easily pushed into the ropes. I mean, it was crazy, Ward was able to get close in the center of the ring, put his head down and walk Green straight back to the ropes.
Ward looks great right now….I think he is the best in the Super 6 BUT I have to say his most effective weapon …his head…will not be a factor against Abraham because Abraham is shorter than Ward. Ward will have to come up with another weapon. I’m not saying he can’t, but he needs to. And Abraham is stronger than Green, so Ward won’t be able to push him around. Best bet is to use Dirrell’s method….stay outside and pick him apart.
Ward is fighting Dirrell next. No guarantee he’ll ever fight Abraham.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 20, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But
fighting Froch next, and I bet he gets KO points from that one.
by Don From Prov on Jun 20, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody Knew
that Green would suck and he only got into this tournament on account of who is managing him.Too bad that Bika wasn’t able to have taken Alan the fraud Greens spot instead.Then we could really gauge how good Ward is.I concure with the author in saying that Green will probably bitch out of his third round bout against Kessler although it may be Alans last title chance and biggest payday so he may just show up and last a round or two before doing what he does best….quiting.Green is Tyson like in his mentality and has to know that the odds are overwhelming in his favor or he mentally gives up.I hope tht I’ve seen the last of this fraud.Let Andrade or Bika take his spot against Kessler.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
Ask yourself this...
How long would Alan Green have lasted with Bute.Not more than four rounds in my opinion.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
Although
Green destroyed Codrington I believe that Codrington would beat him in a rematch.Codrington had a war with Bika on the past version of that Boxing show and showed more heart than anything that I have ever seen of Green.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Jaidon is done. Everything he had he left in the Bika fight. His next fight with William Gill (who came in 8-20) was hideous.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 20, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't know that
I haven’t seen or heard of Jaidon since that fight although I was under the impression that he was still fighting.What happened in that fight.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He just looked terrible. Went tooth-and-nail with — all due respect to William Gill — a bad fighter. Kept grabbing on to the top rope to keep his balance. It was sad to watch. His handlers basically told him to quit after that.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 20, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It's
becoming difficult, IMO, not to become a Ward fan.
I really like to watch him.
BTW: Dumbest Gus Johnson comment of the night (should be a contest for ever fight he calls) was comparing Ward brings to SRL —
Completely different fighters.
Both black, both Olympians. Past that they have absolutely nothing in common. Gus Johnson is absurd.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 20, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Fighters
who take away what you want to do are always fun to watch.
He won't take away anything against Bute
except for maybe a loss.That said I’ll have to watch how much he improves until he finally meets Bute.I’m sure that he’ll get better by then.Right now it’s not even close.Bute by KO or TKO.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Jun 20, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You really like Lucian Bute, don't you Ghost Man?
Personally, while it’s clear that he’s a very good fighter with all the attributes required to be a top guy, I don’t see how you can say he’s way ahead of Ward? He just hasn’t fought a high enough of calibre of opposition to be regarded so highly, in my opinion. It’s one thing looking great against the guys that Bute’s fought, but it’s another absolutely dominating a guy like Kessler in Ward’s case. If you can enlighten me on your appreciation of Bute, I’d love to hear it!
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 20, 2010 7:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Ghost is the biggest Bute fan on the site, and we’ve got plenty of ‘em. Like you, I really like watching Lucian fight and I think he’s a true gentleman and the sort of guy boxing could stand to have a lot more of, but wins over Zuniga, Berrio, Andrade and Miranda leave me a tad bit cold. Not that they’re bad fighters, but they’re easy for anyone with skill to look good against. Ward would kick all their asses, too, and indeed already had with Miranda by the time Bute fought him.
That said, I think Bute would also rip Kessler apart (and probably stop him), and he’d lay waste to Allan Green. On paper, Bute-Ward is one of the best fights in boxing right now. Both really smart, both really skilled, both perhaps just starting to peak.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 21, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s exactly how I feel. I just can’t quite understand how Bute can be lauded as being miles ahead of Ward when, if we’re honest, Ward’s achievements are largely superior.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 21, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I try to stay impartial
But I’m a fan of Bute’s as well. I’m coming around on Ward though. If he would get rid of that damn nickname, I’d be able to support him a lot more.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Doesn’t matter. Gus Johnson made it a point to blatantly and often pointlessly go “SON OF GOD!” on Saturday.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve just started calling him “The Truth.” I made it up and I’m calling him that.
by Waldo Rastel on Jun 22, 2010 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions
SOG
is a sorry-ass moniker, but it’s hard not to like Ward.
Here is one advantage that he has over Bute right now (as long as it doesn’t = beatings or much wear and tear): He is fighting the best in the division and learning/ growing as he goes.
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