Joel Casamayor says Amir Khan fight is "a go"
by Scott Christ on Jun 2, 2010 3:37 PM EDT
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Rick Reeno of BoxingScene.com reports that Joel Casamayor believes a July 31 fight with Amir Khan is set, and his manager Luis DeCubas says the money is the only thing to be finalized.
Casamayor is still the same old ornery guy he's always been, ready to talk up a storm:
"Come July 31 lightning is going to strike twice because I'm going to knock Amir Khan out dead. ... [C]ome July 31st I'm going to prove that he's a nobody."
Casamayor, 38, was set to fight Joan Guzman in Las Vegas on the Marquez-Diaz II PPV on that date. Now, that show will be a split main event with Marquez-Diaz II in Vegas and Khan-Casamayor in the UK, assuming that this really does get done. The veteran has been inconsistent in his last four fights, which date all the way back to November 2007. He was given an extreme gift decision over Jose Armando Santa Cruz, then stopped Michael Katsidis and was highly competitive against Juan Manuel Marquez before being stopped himself for the first time in his career. He returned last November heavy to fight club fighter Jason Davis, and looked iffy at best, but conditioning and indifference may well have played a role in that. No doubt he'll be up as much as he can be for a fight with Khan.
Khan (23-1, 17 KO) will have some real physical advantages. He's much faster than Casamayor is anymore, and will have three inches of height and a couple inches reach to his advantage. Khan has shown a good ability to use that reach, and since Casamayor (while no slugger) has a lot more pop than Paul Malignaggi, I'd expect Amir to treat Joel with a lot more respect when it comes to how open he leaves himself. Khan fought a bit recklessly with Paulie because Malignaggi has no power. Not that Khan was just winging haymakers, but he seemed slightly indifferent to defense at times, because he could do that and get away with it.
It's a fairly interesting fight. There is the chance that Casamayor is simply too old and too small to be beating anyone good at 140 pounds, but he's done a lot in his career and I can't begrudge him a final shot at glory and a good payday. He's earned it.
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Adios Joel
Good, so it can’t go any deeper – Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by The Midnight Rambler on Jun 2, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
i was sad to see casamayor’s last fight. his craftiness isn’t enough to turn back father time. he really slid quick to me, when i think to katsidis fight.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Jun 2, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
He was toast before that
He’s been done since the last Corrales fight. Maybe even before then – Corrales was more done then than people even realized. He should have lost to Santa Cruz, and he would have lost to Karsidis if not for a dumb mistake.
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by Brickhaus on Jun 4, 2010 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and he would have lost to Karsidis if not for a dumb mistake.
It’s the way Katsidis fights. I wouldn’t call it a dumb mistake. It’s just his style. Casamayor just knocked him out. He dropped him twice in the first. So he obviously was capable of hurting him. I had Casamayor up by one at the time of the stoppage. He had won the 9th round. I don’t see how he was on his way to losing. He started fast. Katsidis adjusted in the middle rounds. Casamayor had adjusted back and knocked him out
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by Violent Demise on Jun 4, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He is done
Good, so it can’t go any deeper – Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by The Midnight Rambler on Jun 2, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
idk what to think about Casamayor
He looks terrible (Santa Cruz), and then looks pretty good (Marquez/Katsidis I guess). I’m leaning towards done though….but I hope not, I really do like him.
Run Amir Run!
why am i not surprised? this is definitely a Khan move. If this fight goes ahead, I won’t be tuning in.
Old Man Casa will surprise all of you…
Expect him to make it downright dirty and will test Khan’s resolve.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
hes too old, too slow and too small.
i hope he knocks the shit out of him though.
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by sonofapsycho on Jun 3, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont like it
Joel is too small and is on the backburner of his career. He has only fought twice in 2 years. Khan should crush him.
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by Cleveland Boxing Examiner on Jun 2, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
I agree with this completely. The age difference is bad enough, but Casa is also two divisions north of his best weight. I have to say that the way Khan is being handled is very cynical. They’re trying to have him beat up on every overmatched, washed-up “name” they can get their hands on. Since the Prescott loss, Khan hasn’t faced anybody with a prayer of beating him.
Neither Kotelnik nor Malignaggi was overmatched and washed-up.
They were good style matchups for Khan, but they were both perfectly legitimate fighters when he fought them.
True. I guess Kotelnik was a fairly legit opponent, but Paulie was an easy mark for Khan— I really felt that going in. Paulie isn’t washed up, but he was a low-risk, high-reward opponent for Khan. I mean, it makes sense to match Khan a little soft and make some money off him, but it’s hard to get excited about fights like this at 140 when there are good matchups to be made. Everyone talks so much about this division but it’s really in kind of a holding pattern.
I'm not overly enamoured with this fight by any means.
But I do think its an okay match up. When Bradley is fighting Abregu, Alexander is fighting Kotelnik and Maidana is apparently injured, I think Khan’s made a decent move. Everyone knows the limitations of Kotelnik, who barely won a round against Khan, so I simply can’t see what Alexander gets out of that, while I can’t say I’ve seen much of Abregu to pass comment on that fight. However, Casa is always going to bring a high level of ring intelligence, as well as every single dirty trick in the book (Dave Parris will have a field day with the point deductions), so I reckon, in the grand scheme of things at 140 with everyone else booked up, this isn’t too bad a fight. I’d prefer Katsidis, but I don’t think Khan was ever going to take that risk.
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by Oli Goldstein on Jun 3, 2010 5:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I give Casamayor credit. He’s one of the few fighters who really doesn’t fear anybody. He’s going in there out gunned. And he knows it. He’s going to do every thing in his power to get into Con’s head. And he will make this dirty. I’ve never counted Casamayor out before. And i won’t start now. I give him an excellent chance
If a man ain't found something worth dying for. He ain't fit to live.
I like Khan for his speed and ability but i fear when he gets in with Devon Alexander who has almost as much speed but just as much ability and power,it could well be lights out for Khan.
He’s taking this fight quickly after the last so i’ll let him off fighting yet another smaller guy who also happens to be done but i can just see one of those uppercuts from Devon putting him to sleep again.
Maybe Khan will have improved enough under Freddie by that time to defend against iwhat Devon will bring but his weak punch resistance will likely prove to be a massive flaw in his career.
I think he will beat Maidana through Maidana’s inferior ability,go close with Tim Bradley but lose to Alexander.
I hope Amir proves me wrong and ‘does a Wlad’ by developing his style to suit but i just find it hard to see him avoiding the KO again in such a strong division-unless he somehow avoids/ducks the dangermen.
Sounds about right to me
Only I’d add that I think Bradley beats Devon, and Khan beats Bradley.
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by Brickhaus on Jun 4, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least
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by Brickhaus on Jun 4, 2010 6:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Durn mobile commenting
At least khan is sticking to his promise of only fighting faded legends. IMO, Casa doesn’t have much more left that Barrera did.
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by Brickhaus on Jun 4, 2010 6:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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