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Curtis Cokes: A Look Back on a Hall of Famer

Hall of Famer Curtis Cokes was a top welterweight in the 1960s.

Today at Bad Left Hook, Jim Amato looks back on the career of Hall of Famer Curtis Cokes, one of the top welterweights in the 1960s.

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He may have been the best fighter in the welterweight division during the decade, but Curtis Cokes never had a chance to prove it against the legendary Emile Griffith. Instead he labored in the back round, fighting and beating all comers. Only after Griffith moved up to middleweight and allowed him to capture the vacated title did Curtis Cokes gain some long overdue recognition.

Curtis never had an amateur fight before he began his professional career in Midland, Texas on March 24, 1958, outscoring Manuel Gonzalez over six rounds. Born on June 15, 1937 in Dallas, Texas, Cokes would go on to win his next ten fights including an eight rounder over Gonzalez, who he was just beginning to get to know. Finally in April of 1959, one year after turning pro Curtis suffered his first career loss to none other then Manuel Gonzalez. A no contest in a match with the talented Rip Randall set up a rematch. Curtis took out Randall in the first round. Later in the year Curtis would drop a six round duke to Frankie Davis.

Cokes won four fights in 1960. In 1961 he moved up the ladder with big wins over Joe Miceli and Charley "Tombstone" Smith. Cokes then dropped a decision in Mexico to Hilario Morales. He then fought a draw with the clever Kenny Lane in Dallas. Back in Dallas two months later Curtis scored a huge win with a split decision over the highly respected Luis Rodriguez. Cokes would then meet and again decision Manny Gonzalez but would lose points call to Rodriguez in a return match.

Curtis would bounce back in 1962 with five straight wins including knockouts over Hilario Morales and the rugged Rudolph Bent. Another trip to Mexico cost him another defeat. This times a decision to Manuel Sixto Alvarez. Four more wins led to a 1963 clash at the Sunnyside Garden in New York against contender Jose Stable. Curtis lost a very close decision. Cokes would then outpoint the very tough Stan Harrington. On May 1, 1964 Curtis travelled to the Blue Horizon in Philadelphia to meet the dangerous Stan "Kitten" Hayward. He would suffer a major set back as Hayward stopped Cokes in round four.

It was back to the drawing board for Curtis. Two decision wins over Al Andrews got him back on track but he dropped a ten rounder to the slick Eddie Pace. On December 13, 1965 Curtis won the Southern Welterweight title with a twelve round decision over Billy Collins. On July 6, 1966 Cokes stopped Luis Rodriguez one minute in to the fifteenth and final round of an eliminination bout for the welterweight title vacated by Emile Griffith.

Seven weeks after his win over Rodriguez, Cokes met old rival Manuel Gonzalez for the WBA version of the welterweight title. The battle took place in New Orleans. Curtis floored Gonzalez on his way to a lopsided decision and a world's championship. In November Cokes outclassed Frenchman Jean Josselin to win universal recognition as welterweight champion. Still many felt that Cokes was the champ only because Griffith had vacated the division. Curtis would go on to prove himself a worthy champion.

In early 1967 Curtis would have three non-title affairs. First he drew with Francious Pavilla. He knocked out Ted Whitfield but then the wily Gypsy Joe Harris outpointed Curtis. Finally Cokes defended his title halting Pavilla in a return bout. Next came a very impressive stoppage of sharp contender Charlie Shipes. Two non-title wins in early 1968 over Josselin and Jimmy Lester led to a defense in Dallas against South African contender Willie Ludick. An inspired Cokes flattened Ludick in the fifth round. Three non-title knockouts in South Africa followed including a repeat performance over Ludick. Then came a one-sided title-retaining verdict over Ramon La Cruz.

Jose Napoles, a Cuban who had migrated to Mexico years before had long been considered one of the best fighters in the business. Still he had never received a shot at a world title. Curtis Cokes was a proud man and a proud champion. He felt he was the best welterweight in the world. He also knew that Napoles was a very worthy contender and that he deserved a shot at the title. They met at the Forum in Inglewood, California on April 18, 1969. On that day Napoles proved to the world that he was a special fighter. Jose out fought and battered the game Cokes throughout using a remarkable jab and bone jarring combinations. Hopelessly behind on points Curtis did not answer the bell for round fourteen and his belt was awarded to Napoles.

Maybe it was just a bad night but Curtis had to know, so he went down to Mexico two months later to attempt to reclaim his championship. Again Napoles proved to be too much for the game Cokes and the bout was ended after ten rounds. Curtis would return seven months later as a full-fledged middleweight. Cokes had hoped that old rival Luis Rodriguez would defeat middleweight king Nino Benvenuti when they met on November 22, 1969. Curtis was confident that Rodriguez would give him a crack at the middleweight title. After ten rounds Rodriguez had Benvenuti bleeding and bewildered and it looked like Luis was going to take the crown and then just like that, it was over. A crashing left hook put Rodriguez flat on his back for the count as the bleeding Benvenuti retained his crown.

With little hope of a title shot Curtis still campaigned as a middleweight. He won four bouts but then drew with Akron's Fate Davis, a fighter he defeated seven months earlier. Cokes then lost decisions to Rafael Gutierrez and Carlos Salinas on the West Coast. Then he lost to Elijah Makathini in South Africa. By now it was 1972 and Carlos Monzon was firmly entrenched as middleweight king. There would be little interest in a bout between the great Monzon and the aging Cokes. Curtis returned to South Africa and won decisions over Joseph Hali and Ezra Mzinyane and then retired.
In 80 bouts Curtis put together a fine 62-14-3 record with one no contest. He won thirty fights by knockout. He was stopped only three times. He met the best welterweights of his era other then Emile Griffith.Curtis was inducted into the International Boxing Hall Of Fame in 2003 with the help of mutual friend Steve Canton, I was able to reach Mr. Cokes and have a very nice conversation with him. I contacted him at his gym where he trains boxers. Curtis once trained highly regarded heavyweights Ike Ibeabuchi and Kirk Johnson. He also guided Quincy Taylor to the middleweight title. He also appeared in the boxing movie classic Fat City.

Curtis was extremely courteous and giving with his time. He said even though he and Manny Gonzalez met in the ring numerous times, they were very good friends. Curtis had a tremendous amount of respect for Luis Rodriguez and despite their battles they always maintained a friendly relationship. I asked him if he regretted never meeting Emile Griffith in the ring. Curtis more or less said that he had no control on Emile's decision to move up in weight. Did he feel he could have defeated Emile? In his low key, respectful manner Mr.Cokes just stated he felt that he was capable of beating any welterweight in the world during his prime but he had a great respect for Emile's talent and that they are friends. He said the knockout loss to Stan Hayward in 1964 took him by surprise but he just put it behind him and moved on. He called Napoles a great fighter who he was just unable to overcome. Curtis really felt that if Rodriguez had defeated Benvenuti, they would have met again. This time for the middleweight championship of the world.

I would like to thank Curtis Cokes for taking the time to speak to me one-on-one. I'd also like to thank promoter, trainer, gym owner and jack-of-all-trades Steve Canton for helping me to contact Curtis.

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Love this. Jim Amato always delivers on those guys who too many people forget. Way to go Jimbo.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Jun 28, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Curtis is truly a legend in Dallas. He was still running a gym in Oak Cliff until at least last summer. I worked for a County Commissioner (John Wiley Price) last summer, and he’d occasionally stop by Curtis’ gym just to say hello and see how the guy’s doing. Cokes is a legend in Dallas. And Ted’s right, he’s a guy people forget, but he’s still there.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Jun 28, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

man I remember him trying to get through to Kirk Johnson back in the day. – that’s another wasted talent at HW, just a total head case.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Jun 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Very interesting read

Sounds like one hell of a guy to boot.
I love the way he fought opponents to prove to himself if he was the best, not who would make him the most money.

by Phill on Jun 28, 2010 5:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

just out of curiosity

Does Jim have a name under which he comments?

Anyway, if Jim is checking, great profile. Cokes was a little before my time, but I feel like this helps bring him to life.

Also, question for Kid Blast – any reason you don’t comment under your real name? I have my own reasons (I stopped when someone asked me about my blogging in a job interview, and I don’t want clients thinking I’m wasting their time, with the side note that I’m never billing when I’m on here), but it doesn’t seem like you have much to lose, especially since you write books and stories under your real name.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 28, 2010 6:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Man,

this is a good article—Cokes fought some great names.

Going to come back to this one tomorrow.

by Don From Prov on Jun 28, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I never really saw Cokes fight.......

But, he is another guy who gets ripped by posters for making the IBHOF……. Was Cokes really that good?

Was Kenny Norton truly worthy?

I don’t know anymore…….. The IBHOF and its criteria is scandalous……

That applies to the Rock & Roll “Hall” as well………. No induction of Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, KISS, Ted Nugent or Deep Purple as of yet……… WTF?

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 28, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Black Sabbath is in

Not that it matters. A bit surprised that KISS isn’t. It seems like half the time the can’t decide if they want to induct influential artists or popular ones.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Jun 29, 2010 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

None of these

“Hall of Fame” organizations are true to form with honesty and integrity….. Its all a scam and front, mixed with politics of the worst kind……

I hate beauty / popularity contests……. I just do……..

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 29, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He Puts On His Rock Critic Hat

The Nuge isnt making the Hall , Bill. For starters nobody outside the States knows who he is and his colourful right wing views will have offended the rich hypocritical hippies that run the joint. Alice should be there . He had a lot of influence on rock n roll stylistically , both musically and with his stage act. Kiss , not for mine . Dumbed down New York Dolls but Ace Frehley is pretty cool . Deep Purple , as much as I dislike them deserve a gong . Smoke on the Water and Black Night were songs every dumb( myself included) kid between 1972 and 1985 learned to play when he- she was first mucking around with an electric guitar.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 29, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ted Nugent’s other problem is he had like two or three good albums and everything he’s made since 1980 except for “Fred Bear” is crap. He’s just not that important, original, impactful, good, etc. Nugent was my first concert when I was 13 and being from Michigan I have some affinity for him (plus he did have some great tunes), but he’s not a Hall of Famer.

Alice should be in.

Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rodriguez,

Napoles, Cokes, Griggith—there were some great WW’s around at the same time.

And a whole group of very good ones as well.

by Don From Prov on Jun 29, 2010 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

curtis was a great great fighter. growing up i knew him more of a trainer but got a hold of some vhs’ of his fights during my collecting days. well deserved honor in getting to the hall.

he did terrific work with quincy taylor, quincy was one of the most underrated fighters in boxing in the early 90s before he broke through and ko’ed julian jackson to win the wbc belt.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

by sonofapsycho on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Did you know him SOAP--

I mean, work out where he trained people?

Quincy Taylor—another name. Good stuff.

P.S. On another note: Many rock & roll stars are senile now. Which is fine.
But I saw Mick Jagger at a World Cup with Bill Clinton—

This world makes no frocking sense and I will be glad to be quit of it. Bile inducing.

by Don From Prov on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

lol wtf? how old do you think i am?

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

by sonofapsycho on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh and to answer, no i didn’t. i just what i know from viewing tapes and reading up on him.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

by sonofapsycho on Jun 29, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

you could have been very young and learning boxing when he was a very old trainer.

So, I have no idea how old you are.

by Don From Prov on Jun 29, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gimme Jerry Lee Lewis anyday

The killer might have even shot old Slick Willie .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 29, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sir

Mick. Please!

The only reason to get into the room where the fat turds are eating is to cut their throats.

by Don From Prov on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Sir Mick

A cynic would suggest that Mick went to the London School of Economics and like all middle class wankers he was always keen to get some approval from his upper class betters lol As Keith Richards said " a petty honour " . As for Dons quote , fucking brilliant .

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 29, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prov

Those dinners double as Ted’s book research hey mate? Hope he picks up the bill .

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 30, 2010 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Goatsnake

and JC40: I’m wondering about those Tweed lads that JC mentions on another thread.

Even about Tweed itself. Anything outside of a Prov/Attleboro radius and I’m lost—
Actually, I’m lost within them often enough.
Anyway, I say hold off on jabbing Somoans: Let peace reign, and good strategy rule.

He (Ted) picks up the tab too often, Goaty, and that’s a bad on me.

by Don From Prov on Jun 30, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

very good, Don

cut their throats.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Jun 29, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Hells Bells

I didn’t mean to take Jim’s thread and go off on a tangent, but both the IBHOF and R & R Hall of Fames really piss me off with their political favortism and overall rubbish criteria…..

It took forever to get Bobby Chacon elected, and just recently will Danny Lopez make it in…. The hell was all the delay???

JC…, Ted Nugent IS a worthy rocker of note and deserves intro as the “Motor City Madman.” And KISS being kept out in the cold there is INSANE!

The IBHOF and R & R Hall’s are just biased and horrid…… WORD!

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jun 29, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

KISS?

Never got into their stuff – too middle of the road – sold a gazillion records though. For me that era was all about The Damned, The Stranglers, UK Subs,The Pistols, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Clash, The Ruts, GBH, The Exploited etc. Simmon’s fire breathing was pretty cool though.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 30, 2010 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Choice of 70s pom punk Goaty

I’ll add the Buzzcocks and very early Jam ( even though they were mods) and Aussie punk legends The Saints and Radio Birdman . As far as American Punk Ohio’s The Electric Eels were punk before it existed . I’ve got a soft spot for The New York Dolls,The Ramones , Richard Hell and the Voidoids first album and especially for Johnny Thunders and the heartbreakers . L A M F and DTK " Live At The Speakeasy" are two of the great lost punk albums . Cheers Goaty . Keep on pogoing mate!

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 30, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pistols

played a small club in Prov. Had a unique rapport with the audience.

Everyone did get home alive.
I have to admit that I always liked the shit out of Patti Smith.

by Don From Prov on Jun 30, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Piss Factory Don

Great single by Ms Smith back in the day

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jul 1, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly punk

But I’d throw Joy Division into that bucket for the time period as well.

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by Brickhaus on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shes Lost Control

Great Song

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jul 1, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kiss do deserve a gong

Surely just on sales figures and for the amount of kids they turned onto Rock n Roll.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jul 1, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you could weave the BWAA into the mix as well when it comes to polotics. Unless you

are a member of that UNION, forget about ever getting any props or kudos from it. I cxould write a book about the dispicable political crap that goes on in that “CLUB.”

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Jul 2, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Curtis Cokes tribute Jim

Already with a number of defeats on his record and just seven weeks after a final eliminator Curtis wins the world title. Things were different back then. Tough times.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jun 30, 2010 4:24 AM EDT reply actions  

not sure why put this reminded me of guys like willie monroe and bennie briscoe. couple of guys who fought just about everyone yet not many people know about and don’t get much love. im too lazy and don’t write well enough to do a fan post on them.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

by sonofapsycho on Jun 30, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Both are worth one,

pyscho. Briscoe was a handful for anyone. The worm was no joke either.

by Don From Prov on Jun 30, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

briscoe was a beast. he gave monzon fits.

"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston

by sonofapsycho on Jun 30, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad Bennie

Briscoe was my pick on the resume thread. Good stuff.

"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.

by Goatsnake on Jul 1, 2010 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes,

and that brings up Rodrigo Valdez who beat Bennie twice, once stopping him (not a every day thing) and who also gave Monzon hell.

Valdez was a hell of a combination puncher—
And his power often built within a combo as he put it together.

by Don From Prov on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cokes could fight.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jun 30, 2010 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw the Ramones and Sex Pistols

in Hollywood, CA. back in 1992 and 1996….. Great shows…….. Great “Punk” bands….. But that’s where the buck stops for me in punk rock….. I hate most noisy low-budget groups that made the punk rock scene popular……

Wannabe punkers / new-wavers like Devo came and went after a few hits in the late 70s…. “Jocko Homo” and “Blockhead” were my favorites there…. “Freedom of Choice” was kool—-for a while……. “Whip It” was vastly overrated……..

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

.Really enjoyed this feature, quality sports writing (as always) by Jim Amato. —good luck.

by THE WELSHMAN on Jul 1, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Early Devo was good

Jocko Homo and Mongoloid were big among the surfing kids I hung with in the early 80s Bill.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.

by JC40 on Jul 1, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

"Mongoloid" from '78...

Quote: “And he wore a hat, and he had a job, and he—brought home the bacon.”

That was kool back then……

MR.BILL

Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.

by MRBILL40 on Jul 2, 2010 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

MR. COKES

Curtis Cokes was one very good welter weight. He fought tough opposition and usually came out on top. Luis Rodriguez was as good a fighter as ever fought at welter weight and Cokes beat him. It is a shamed Griffin never fought Cokes. Napoles was a great fighter also. Cokes belongs in the hall of fame if any one does.

by Tex Hassler on Jul 7, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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