Ted the Bull's Scotch and Cigar Club #5
by Bad Left Hook on Jul 11, 2010 8:02 AM EDT
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PrintBack again with a new edition of the Scotch and Cigar Club is the one and only Ted "The Bull" Sares.
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Welcome to the latest edition of the Club (17th overall). We have some great sounds, smokes, and scotch. Tonight, we also have a marvelous variety of cheeses, some humus and flatbread. We also feature Greek olives, ripe grapes, stuffed artichokes, and some chilled slivers of wild Boar to go along with an array of fine single malt scotches (Glenmorangie 18, Dalmore 12, Glen Garioch, and Johnnie Walker Gold are among them) and a humidor of mixed deluxe Cuban cigar are among them.s (including Bolivar, Juan Lopez, Punch, San Cristobal, and Vegueros). No more fooling around in the Club-we are going first class. . Hell, tonight, "I've got everything from egg roll to I'll be dammed if I know." Anyone recognize where that line came from and who said it?
As for music, I'll play anything you want as long as it's not Country, Dixieland or New Age. Fusion (as in Kenny G) is also tightly screened. Tonight we focus on the bluesmen of the past-a dying breed. Buddy Guy, B.B. King, Magic Slim, Luther Johnson, "Big Bill" Morganfield, Robert Cray and some others who have that Delta beat. BUT, in sharp contrast, we also have Eminem's Recovery and he hasn't lost a beat. Ludacris is also here and doing "Sex Room," "My Chick Bad," and more. Ludacris is being Ludacris, Usher is also in the house doing tunes from his Here I Stand album. We are going eclectic in this club session.
Now, let's quickly move on to boxing and please don't hesitate to inject your own boxing topics, opinions, disagreement, or agreement.
1) Pound for Pound Top Dozen
Again, this is simply a snapshot in time as of July 9, 2010 and is much different from my last listing.
- Manny Pacquiao
- Floyd Mayweather Jr.
- Chad Dawson
- Lucian Bute
- Andre Ward
- Sergio Martinez
- Celestino Caballero
- Paul Williams
- Nonito Donaire
- Vic Darchinyan
- Timothy Bradley
- Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
Others closing in include Juan Manuel Lopez, Yonnhy Perez, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ivan Calderon, and Marcos Maidana. If JML beats Concepcion, he will vault into my top dozen.
2) Prospect of the Month: Brad Solomon
Brad Solomon (12-0) is somewhat of a cutie. He fights out of Lafayette, Louisiana and has taken down two highly touted and undefeated prospects in Puerto Rican Kenny Galarza and The New Ray Robinson. He totally dominated (and exposed) Galarza with his in and out movement and superb counterpunching along with superior hand speed. Two judges scored the fight for Solomon 100-89 and the third also had him winning, 99-90. He is a three time National Golden Gloves Champion, once in the Welterweight and twice in the Junior Welterweight divisions, so he is well-schooled.
3) The David Lemieux Watch
After annihilating Elvin Ayala on June 11 at the Uniprix Stadium in Montreal, many observers have become true believers. I was scheduled to be at ringside for this one, but I am glad I couldn't make it. Montreal is a long way to travel for a one round blowout.
This was a good measuring stick for the 21 year old charismatic Lemieux who continues to fight at an active Old School-type pace, and has become the second hottest boxing celebrity in Quebec (Lucien Bute being the first, of course).
4) Mismatches of the Month and Worst Record of the Month
Medgoen 3-K Battery Singsurat (66-6) beat Spaniard Alex Munoz who was making his pro debut in one that went the full 6 rounds in Thailand. Since losing badly to Nobuto Ikehara in 2006, 3-K has gone 25-2. The two losses were against Mikio Yasuda (14-4-2) and Jorge Arce (47-4-1). The 25 wins came against opponents with an astounding combined won-lost record of 16-27-1. Fifteen were making their pro debut! And yes, this is the same fighter who beat Manny Pacquiao o back in 1999.3-K's batteries have long been dead. He need to retire now.
Alexander Petkovic (39-4-3) beat the very bland Jermaine Bland (0-5) in Germany. There was no need for a decision in this one.
Talented Kengo Nagashima (39-4-2) took the measure of Pongsatorn Srisuree who was unwisely making his pro debut in Japan. Inexplicitly, the fight went the full 8 rounds. Maybe Kengo needed rounds?
However, in a case of the worm turning, Luis Alejandro Moreno (0-0-2) held Cesar Emilio Domine (38-16-7) to a draw in Buenos Aires.
Meanwhile Czech light welterweight has run up the worst record of the month going 1-40-1.
5) Excerpt from Planet Boxing
A few posters have asked for an excerpt from my new book, Planet Boxing. The following is taken from my chapter titled "Island Hopping":
"The Upsets
"Seven truly incredible upsets occurred involving Jamaican boxers starting with Trevor Berbick's 1980 unforgettable ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal, a fight which set the stage for six more shockers.
"Welterweight champion Lloyd "Ragamuffin" Honeyghan (43-5), nicknamed "Ragamuffin" due to his Jamaican heritage, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. Curry, nicknamed the "Cobra," was being touted at the time as a pound for pound fighter, but would never be the same and, more importantly, the loss thwarted a dream match with Marvelous Marvin Hagler for the middleweight championship in what could have been one of the richest fight in history..
"In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing, 43-12-1, beat the great Roberto Duran in 1982. Duran would recover from this shocker; Laing would never capitalize on it.
"In 1993, Michael Bentt knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in 1993 in an incredible first round upset. Morrison's camp had terribly underestimated Bentt and did a poor job of researching his Michaels amateur credentials.
"Who could forget the great Simon "Mantequilla" Brown, WBC and IBF Welterweight Titlist, who KO'd Hall of Famer Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC light middleweight Title in Ring Magazine's "Upset of the Year?"
"In 1997, Keith "The Brooklyn Assassin" Mullings shocked the boxing world with a 9th round TKO over WBC Light Middleweight Title-holder Terry Norris (again).
"Glen Johnson became a legend when he knocked out Roy Jones on September 26, 2004. Nobody ever expected to see Jones knocked cold but that's what happened, and it was a performance that garnered Glen the 2005 Ring Magazine and USA Today "Fighter of the Year" honors.
"What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
"The Upsetter"
"Speaking of upsets, Ovill "The Upsetter" McKenzie (18-9) is a Jamaican light heavyweight who fights out of the U.K, and lost 6 of his first 8 fights. He then won 8 in a row against truly awful opposition before being waxed by Dean Francis in one round. After losing 2 more, he has settled down and has won his last 4 bouts against stiff opposition. Indeed, one of those wins was a TKO over heavily favored Irishman Darren "The Raging Bull" Corbett (27-4-1 coming in). This occurred during the 'Prizefighter' Cruiserweight Tournament Semi-Final. "The Upsetter" lived up to his nickname as he went on to defeat rugged Terry Dunstan (20-2) and John "Buster" Keaton (28-17) to win the Cruiserweight Prizefighter Tournament. Keaton had waxed Dean Francis in one canto to reach the finals. McKenzie received the Prizefighter trophy from Barry Hearn as the crowd accorded "The Upsetter" a standing ovation for his 3 upsets in one thrilling night of boxing at London's Earls Court. He also received a hefty check for his achievements.
"That win over Corbett, the former the IBO Inter-Continental Light-Heavyweight Title holder before he retired in 2004, may not have qualified Ovill to take his place among those Jamaican fighters who perpetrated great ring upsets. But the thing is, Ovill did it three times in one night on May 19, 2009."
6) Boxing in the U.S. Is in Trouble -- Big Trouble
"We're going to make an example of James Toney."
--Dana White
"Boxing will exist whilever somebody can make an honest rouble from it, and somebody always will. But it is fading, broken beyond repair..."
--Paul Kent
"We're out of the heavyweight division."
--HBO
At least I believe it is and this is the first time I have felt that way in over 60 years or back to the days when the mob ran things. The other day, I was in a Barnes and Nobles and looked to see if they had any boxing magazines. They had The Ring, but no others. However, they did have about 7 magazines on UFC/MMA. It doesn't take a marketing research expert to compute that one. Some say it's a socioeconomic shift as more college graduates are taking up MMA given their wrestling skills. Maybe so, but something is happening. The kid I golfed with today (he is 24) said only Mayweather and Manny are worth watching. I said what about the Klitschkos and he said who?
Moreover, former boxing strongholds like Chicago, Detroit and L.A. have been replaced by Southern Florida and other new "hotbeds" of boxing. Even New York City is not what it once was. And big athletes now look to football and basketball as a way to big money. The heavyweight boxing situation in the U.S is dreadful.
Amateur boxing in the U.S is in dire straits and anyone who doesn't think so need only look at how we have done in the Olympics.
Watching Pavlik fight Espino on PPV is a forerunner of what we can expect in the way of "free" boxing on television. This is especially impactful because young people have become more discretionary with their funds and paying to watch the likes of Pavlik-Espino is hardly a bargain.
Boxing is now all about multiple champions, unworthy mandatory challengers, and general confusion that come to be associated with sanctioning bodies. Boxing has morphed toward the casino industry, and public broadcasts are a thing of the past.
All in all, there are many negative variables coming from different directions and their collective impact will have less than a positive result. To repeat, boxing in the U.S is in trouble.
Oh yes, If James Toney loses to Randy Couture, that will not help very much.
What are your views on this?
7) Generational Bias
Looking through the prism of nostalgia makes everything seem better and I like to play out old school memories just like other old timers. However, I also try to be thoughtful and objective when making comparisons between the past and the present-and that's where the issue of generational prejudice comes in (some call it "era" prejudice).
The task is to engage facts before nostalgia. The lesson is to take into account all essential variables when making comparisons between old and modern. Variable such as number of fights, era (for example, the 70‘s were a great time for heavyweights and the 80‘s for middleweights), stamina, training techniques and methodology, records, style, chin, KO percentages, skill-sets, entire body of work, quality of opposition, management, etc. When this is done, myth is stripped away from facts. When this is done, I am not engaging in generational prejudice, something that most writers seem to do.
What do you think?
8) Margarito seeks license in Nevada
"They should tell him to take a hike."
--Tim Smith
By the time this Club Session is posted, we will know if Antonio Margarito has received a license to fight in Nevada. As Tim Smith says, they should tell him to take a hike because Margarito hasn't taken any responsibility for what almost happened that night in the Mosley fight. Clearly, he will have to display remorse to the Nevada commission, but if he does, the question should be posed as to why he waited until now to show remorse.
Smith goes on to nail it in a New York Daily News piece dated July 10, 2010:
"This is all about money for Top Rank and Margarito, who is 32 years old and running out of top-earning years. But there is a larger principle involved and that is whether a man knowingly dishonored his sport and deliberately sought to inflict permanent damage on an opponent. The Nevada Commission should have told Margarito to find another line of work."
Even though there could be any number of super interesting fights featuring the Tornado (Martinez, Manny, Cotto, etc), I say NO. What say you?
Flash: "Breaking new-News: Nevada State Athletic Commission Say Antonio Margarito Must Reapply For Licence In California."
Well, now Margo may have to go back to California, but if he does, the question should be: Why did you go to Nevada first? The way in which he is being guided here should be a segment for "Dumb and Dumber." Good grief, go to Cali, get on your knees and beg forgiveness. If that doesn't work, fight in Mexcio and then just go away. You were once my favorite fighter. That's the real sting in this entire matter. You betrayed those of us who were behind you and now you compund it by becoming a member of a comedy group. The Tijuana Tornado indeed.
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I'll go first!
1. Eminem’s Recovery is about as good as the rest of his albums, which is to say it stinks. I am not a fan to say the very, very least. Too “Jerry Springer” for me. And I hate those little sermons he gives before his songs. I’ll lose myself on my own time and be afraid when I want to, Marshall.
For 2010 hip-hop I truly recommend Freeway & Jake-One’s The Stimulus Package, Big Boi’s Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty and Big K.R.I.T.’s mixtape is pretty incredible for the first half.
2. David Lemieux and Saul Alvarez are perhaps my two favorite prospects in the game right now, and both are banging down the door. They share a vicious streak and I like that.
3. Boxing is in no more trouble in the U.S. than it has been in the last decade, and I have no clue what anyone thinks fat old James Toney losing to Randy Couture is going to prove. It’s about as relevant as Tim Sylvia-Ray Mercer was. The meatheads who hate boxing (without ever watching it) might shout about Couture beating Toney meaning something, but they already don’t watch boxing, so whatever.
4. Antonio Margarito and his team (and Top Rank) seem to know that California is not going to re-license him. He’s tried Texas and he went to Nevada. The only explanation for trying to avoid the CSAC is he knows they aren’t going to let him back in.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
a little more on music
Outside of new releases, lately I have been digging heavily on:
Fats Domino
Dr. John
Waylon Jennings (though this goes for every day of my life)
The Gaslight Anthem
And right this second I am listening to Alice in Chains’ Unplugged album, which IMO from a pure performance standpoint wastes the Nirvana session.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh no you didn't
Just put AIC-Unplugged over Nirvana Unplugged! There’s a few moments of magic in AIC’s set, I’ll agree, but Nirvana’s unplugged was transcendent. Lake of Fire, Man Who Sold the World, and especially Where Did You Sleep Last Night are mind-bogglingly good. There’s not a single dull moment on that disc, whereas Layne Staley simply disappears at times on AIC unplugged.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jul 11, 2010 12:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Where Did You Sleep Last Night on Unplugged was simply astonishing. I concur whole-heartedly.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jul 11, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The last minute or so of that song is truly perfect. God damn that bastard could sing.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jul 11, 2010 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How about..
“Simple man” Lynyrd Skynyrd. Classic little ditty.
by Phill on Jul 11, 2010 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
http://www.amazon.com/MTV-Unplugged-New-York-Nirvana/dp/B000003TB9
http://www.amazon.com/Unplugged-Alice-Chains/dp/B000002BM5
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Ted, if you haven’t heard it, do make sure you listen to Nirvana’s Unplugged set. It really is quite majestic, and is probably the reason why Kurt Cobain remains more than just a suicide star.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jul 12, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions
And to be clear
I love AIC and think Dirt is easily the bet hard rock record of the nineties. Some of the lyrics and vocal performances on that record are both amazing and chilling at the same time. I’m not sure another record will ever capture drug addiction in such a raw, ugly, yet beautiful way.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jul 11, 2010 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Saw Fats
Domino a looong time ago. Can’t, at the moment, recall his closing song—
But old Fats kind of belly bumped his piano across the stage
And his band marched up the aisles of the auditorium. Great stuff.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
'59 sound
by the gaslight anthem was blasting away in my motor this afternoon . Good band .
Biffy Clyro out of Scotland are currently pissing off my neighbours . “Who’s got a match” is my current favourite getting ready to go out song ." I’m a fire and I burn tonight" . Great stuff .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How's things Ted
Ted, You have the Top 10 P4P list pretty much spot on. Thank god you’ve taken Bernard Hopkins out of it. Overall A great Article buddy.
Cheers.
Vlad.
by Serbian Vlad on Jul 11, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bloody right.
It’s nice to see a modicum of morality in boxing, every once in a while.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jul 11, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen to that. This could be a big win for boxing if it holds the line on Margo.
Pray for Nick Charles
Yep, but no surprises there really. That guy’s blood truly runs cold.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jul 11, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevada made the right call at least
When I first reported that he was reapplying, I said I thought he wasn’t going about it right and he probably has to go to California first. I do think California will give him the license though. They were pretty vague about the foreign substance that was on the wraps (the phrase they used was “elements of plaster”, which could mean any number of things). That, together with the fact that the DA didn’t press charges indicates to me that whatever was on the wraps wasn’t actually something that would harden too much. If it’s just a case of bad intent with illegal wraps that wouldn’t have too much of an effect, then I don’t have a major problem with them licensing him a year and a half later, as long as they watch him like a hawk in the future.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Nevada was spot on sending it back to Cali
And I think your assessment is equally spot on. The ‘conclusive’ evidence provided from the investigation was damning but nebulous at best, leaving it wide open to less than definitive conclusions. And further review.
Substances are not hardened blocks of plaster. If they had been the latter they would have said just that without mincing words….and very likely would have prosecuted. I think Cali re-licenses AM.
But the requirements re evidence are not nearly as strict insofar as the commissions are concerned.
Pray for Nick Charles
No
Administrative law just needs clear and convincing evidence; criminal liability needs beyond a reasonable doubt. But if the DA thought they could possibly reach that standard, they would have pressed charges. Something that high profile only doesn’t get charges pressed if the bosses think it would ruin the statistics.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Funny about Alvarez and Lemieux
Way back when Mayweather fought Marquez, Jrok and Matt and I were chatting about the future of boxing, the guys who could be the next stars. Jrok was pushing David Lemieux on me – he couldn’t remember the name at the time, but it was pretty clearly Lemieux he was talking about. I on the other hand was pushing Alvarez as the guy I thought could be the next big star. In any case, over a year later, it looks like both of us might turn out to be right.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Who was I arguing for?
I can’t recall. Hazy evening in general.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I think you may have been preoccupied
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I have no clue what anyone thinks fat old James Toney losing to Randy Couture is going to prove
The way that this fight is being discussed on MMA blogs really has surprised me. A lot of them don’t seem to be able to grasp has James Toney is absolutely shot, and a complete irrelevancy.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
has = that
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to generalize, but MMA fans don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground about boxing, who’s relevant, who isn’t, etc. They just aren’t fans and have no idea what they’re talking about. Not only is James Toney old and not good anymore, but he was about the absolute last guy I’d choose to go into MMA and be even kind of successful, let alone be worthy of fighting someone like Randy Couture, even an old Randy Couture.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jul 12, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh my God, wait untl Ghoastman comes back. He will post like amadman becaus ehe is a big MMA
fan but also knows boxing. Get ready for a WAR of historic proportions.
Pray for Nick Charles
I also like MMA a lot. There are many people who like both. But the vast majority of MMA’s fans do not care about or know anything about what’s going on in boxing today. That’s why you can convince some of them that James Toney is relevant.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jul 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
I think that’s why Dana White signed James Toney but didn’t sign Ricardo Mayorga. Mayorga actually would have had a puncher’s chance against whoever he faced. Toney doesn’t stand a chance at all. His style is exactly the opposite of what you’d want for MMA. Someone who never moves his feet and relies on upper body movement is just a sitting duck for a takedown. I don’t even watch MMA, but even I know that much.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I've watched a tiny bit
And I wish that Wlad would take a year out to train in BJJ, wrestling and kickboxing, and then move into the UFC. I think he would well and truly clean up.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
cos it would only take 1 year to learn BJJ,wrestling and kickboxing while it has taken the top MMA guys years and years to master them.
And you were talking about the MMA fans knowing nothing about boxing?
I think you just showed how little you know about MMA with that statement above.
If he could develop a leg kick like his jab
It wouldn’t matter. People still wouldn’t be able to get inside on him.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
The year was just an arbitary
Period of time which I allocated. However long it would take, then that long will do.
I don’t pretend to know anything about MMA, but I do know a thing or two about athletes, and I am pretty sure that Wlad would do well. It isn’t like the UFC heavyweight division is over flowing with talent.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Wlad was a championship kickboxer when he was an amateur, FWIW
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Fair Points
I didn’t know that about Wlad actually.Interesting.
I thought Vit had been a kickboxer though?
I’m not that clued up on computer abbreviations…..What does FWIW mean?
I hope it’s not an insult! :D
You're right
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
To be honest, a lot of new MMA news sites are usually former pro-wrestling fans who don’t understand why their copy and paste blog isn’t getting eyeballs, so they “jump ship” and start C&P MMA stories.
Sure, some do commentary, but they’ve drunk the kool-aid so bad, Dana can shit on their head and they’d think they’re getting free Baby Ruths.
Stick with Bloody Elbow.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I shall
Great write-ups, which are very accessable; key to a newbie like me.
Some of your posters though…
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
On Recovery – I love Eminem, but was seriously disappointed by every song barring Not Afraid. The beats just seemed so much more amateurish than his old stuff, and songs like Talkin’ 2 Myself just sound like cheap karaoke. I quickly listened to the Marshall Mathers LP, and my faith was renewed, so its cool.
On the p4p list – I’ve also got Andre Ward moving up into the top 5, but I have Sergio Martinez at 3 and Bad Chad at 4.
Brad Solomon – top prospect, he’s going to be a very very difficult prospect for a lot of fighters. He demonstrated serious ring smarts against Galarza, and it was highly impressive.
David Lemieux – I’m a convert, the guy is awesome. If I don’t get Cambridge next year for my University application, I’m planning on taking out a semester and going to Montreal. Potentially seeing Lemieux and Bute was part of my thinking.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jul 11, 2010 8:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
On Recovery
‘No Love’ blew me away. I think I could pretty much listen to that song on repeat all day.
Yeah, I don’t mind that one, but i’m sick of hearing Lil Wayne talk about all the drugs he’s doing. Just gets a bit old really. Nice remix of What Is Love though, and respect for even attempting to turn that Haddaway record into hip hop.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
by Oli Goldstein on Jul 11, 2010 8:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My Girlfriend just got into Cambridge
So I know what a chellenge it can be, good luck!
What are you applying for?
I like your p4p choices, as they are rather bold and put quite of an emphasis on some fighters who are just wakign their waves recently. Come the end of the Super Six, if Ward remains dominant, he genuinely deserves top 3, or even top 2, consideration.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually went and saw B.B. King a couple months ago. It was a pretty good show.
p4p- We will see Devon Alexander on there soon enough.
prospects- Where does Mike Jones fit in to the picture? The few times I’ve seen him he has all the skills, but there is always something questionable about his fight (he cruises and lets opponent stick around, scores a knockout with a low blow, etc.).
Devon Alexander?
I’m backign Bradley in that race. Certain to make the top 10 p4p over the next year, in my opinion.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
No reason they can't both be
They’re both close, IMO. I know the judges didn’t see it that way, but I thought Bradley beat Witter more convincingly than Alexander.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I expect them to fight
At some point, so just thought I would indicate the one who I think will go further. I don’t doubt that they will both be top 10, given time.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgot about Boxing in U.S.
I like that HBO has told the heavyweights to become entertaining or go away. I agree with SC that boxing is not in any more trouble than it was a few years ago. It would be nice to see some of the bigger fights happen (may-pacman, JuanMa-Gamboa, 140 lb. mini tourney), but we have had some great fights so far this year and should finish up strong.
Good God, they had to use a crane to pull Fats out of that Katrina mess. But yeah, He was
hot back in the 50’s. Hell he was on Bluieberry HIll back then on Blue Monday. Dr John is afrigging genius, I dig him as well.But M & M I do like because he is from the Midwest and for a white kid, he can rap and rap and rap. Plus his mother was and is a real bit-h.
Pray for Nick Charles
If you watched "Treme"
you’d see Dr. John, and a number of other good musicians. Great music.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Good music
But after The Wire, I couldn’t help but be disappointed. I realize they’re trying something new here, but a serial with a lack of a real plot arc kind of bothers me.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
After
The Wire most anything is going to be a let-down.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
I watched the first 7 episodes, and outside of John Goodman’s character, I’m just not finding too much redeeming about it. I realize he’s trying to make the city and the music the star, but if I wanted 20 minutes of bands playing music each episode, I’d buy a CD.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
But not John Goodman who has been my insoiration to diet. If he can lose 200, I can lose 100.
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I’m from New Orleans, so we’ll have to respectfully disagree.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jul 11, 2010 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well one thing for sure, your pockets are a lot deeper than mine to be eating at Commander’s Palace.
Plus his mother was and is a real bit-h.
Yeah, well, her son’s kind of a wiener who has tough guy rap feuds with Christina Aguilera, Moby and a rubber dog puppet.
I do agree he’s a terrific rapper, though. His “technical skill,” if you will, is amazing. My favorite Eminem performance ever is on Jay-Z’s “Renegade.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxrbxrGZphQ
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow , SC put some great videos on there. Buddy Guy's reminded me of growing up in
Chicago. I remember those borded up apartment buildings, Scary shite. And the Blackstone Rangers carved out their territory. Very scary place.Things changed shortly after the Watts riots in LA and respect became a mutual endeavor. Interesting social phenomon that occured there—and a necessary one.
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If my memory serves me right, which in and of itself is a dubious situation, I recall Buddy Guy having a bar/club in NYC in the 60’s. Hell of a guitar player.
That first round of the Lopez-Conception fight surely is a candidate for Round of the Year. Lopez pounds Conception all over the ring, knocking him down, and at the bell, like a bolt of lightening, Conception nails him with a left hook and floors him! And Lopez was really wobbly; it was a p unch right on his ear.
Could be , but he grew up up in Chicago though he was born in Miss. He is about my age and I
love to go to Legends which is his Club in Chicago. He was great doing the backgrond music in that Movie Things to do in Denver when you are Dead. Also, his album Sweet Tea is an offbeat winner. Give it a try. Buddy has his own unique style of playing and I like it a lot.
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Boxing in Trouble--NYSAC suspends GBP re Ali Act
See George Kimball’s headline article at www.thesweetscience com.—-this really IS scary, and horribly disappointing. Because he’s done so much right. And has been detoxifying some of your fears re fan base building, imo, so well. And had a pretty clean image. And the implications re HBO make me think of the ABC scandals of the seventies, which are what crashed boxing in the first place, at least in large part. It’s bad enough (but not fatal, since they ARE so boring) that HBO dropped the heavies; it will be awful if they feel compelled to drop boxing entirely, and this thing could rebound. YOW! OUCH! HELP!
Uncle Ted,
I don’t know if Caballero is actually p4p worthy. As for Pac being NUMERO UNO… yes, he FOUGHT his way to that position, a deserves it ALTHOUGH…. I believe that Floyd will beat him IF they finally agree to face off.
And.. yes, Brad Solomon has impressed me as too. He willing to make up for lost time by assuming the ‘underdog’ status to get the fights needed for ACCELERATED exposure. Now, at the same time he might end up being a bit avoided, thus forced to take on the top tier fighters of his division actually before time as well.
And.. yes, Brad Solomon has impressed me as too. He willing to make up for lost time by assuming the ‘underdog’ status to get the fights needed for ACCELERATED exposure. Now, at the same time he might end up being a bit avoided, thus forced to take on the top tier fighters of his division actually before time as well.Margo?? I knew that taking that fight in Mexico was probably gonna bit e him in the ass. I remember how his die-hard fans celebrated the announcement of his fight in Mexico and how they criticised, joked and laughed at the CSAC, snubbing his nose at the imposed suspension. Arum is no idiot and that’s why they decided to plead thier case in Nevada instead of California, where Margo was actually born, contrary to the belief that he was born in Mexico. Anyway, as the saying goes… “He who laughs last…….” One thing for certain, at this present moment Margo/Arum duo have little to laugh about as far as this issue is concerned.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
This is an email from my Buddy Scott from Jamaica
Once again Ted, a great article from a great writer… But I’d like to add Mike McCallum’s upset over Donald Curry, and Trevor Berbick’s upset over Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas, to that list of Jamaican fighters who pulled off great upsets in boxng… Also there was O’Neill Bell’s upset (not sure it was an upset although it did make history) over Jean-Marc Mormeck.
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Well, I'm going off to the links now and try to chase the little white ball. More for the workout than anything else and I am down
20 pounds.I will sonn be known as “Ted The Calf.”
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Top 5
Ted, my compliments to a sure top 5 rendition of Da’ Club. Gotta’ get a little love for my double disc Lightning Hopkins, The Alladin Recordings, many an evening spent with a dose of the blues from this legend…and a bottle. Ted is there a protocol for getting a copy of your latest literary effort personally signed? Thanks, and remember Arturo Gatti…it was one year ago today he left us. RIP to a real warrior. Peace!!
Alvarez
Uncle Teddy YES INDEED, this Alvarez has alot of potential. He’s gonna blossom into a full fledged 160Lb’er and is gonna be a force if he continues to progress. This is one “kid” the the Chavez folks definitely want NO PART OF!! Right now he can spot Chavez Jr a half dozen Lbs and still will crush him.
yup
the thing is, Chavez Sr.’s gotta look at Alvarez and think “he fights more like me than my son”. Last night, more than ever, his punches just looked bludgeoning.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Poised and punishing
Alvarez is precise, almost surgically so, but his uses a hands to bludgeon when he operates. JCC must indeed see himself in this kid.
Become a Ward convert--
but his lack of power might reap serious consequences sooner or later.
He does a lot of thinks well, and I like to watch a fighter like that.
He isn't very powerful
But he isn’t feather fisted either. I mean, he managed to beat Kessler up pretty badlly (the butts helped too!). He might not be able to get a lot of KOs, but his power is good enough to make people respect him in there, and certainly not just walk through his punches.
The thing I would be more concerned about would be his chin. It is a bit patchy, and a monster puncher, like Abraham, could seriously mess him up with out too much contact needed. However, a lumbering sloth like AA would have to get close to him first…
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he can get respect, but he could use more power IMO, and that could hurt him.
You’re right about the chin and about the immobile object which is AA.
by Don From Prov on Jul 12, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Music wise, still listening to The National-High Violet, which is great. Also, Tame Impala-Innerspeaker, which has a cool trip-rock vibe about it (singer sounds just like John Lennon). Also, been listening to Engineers self titled disc, which is first class stuff. Fans of Big Love will note that the new theme song to that show is by Engineers (though admittedly, God
Only Knows by the Beach Boys, the previous theme, was far, far better) .
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jul 11, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Like seeing all the love
For NOLA musicians.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jul 11, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good P4P List,Ted.
I don’t think the Couture-Toney fight would be very damaging to boxing should Toney lose.Couture probably will come out on top but all people have to ask themselves is “what would happen if they fought in a boxing ring under boxing rules”?
This is just a novelty fight (though still appealing,to me at least) between two old,possibly shot fighters from different sports.
The UFC has more to worry about should Toney catch Randy with a few clean shots and manage to put him away.Now that would look bad,being beaten in your own back yard!:)
I’d love to see the smarmy smile wiped off Dana’s face.
I hate to say it but although i don’t think it is much to do with the Couture-Toney result,i do think boxing could be in trouble and it is interesting that someone who has followed it for years such as yourself Ted thinks this.
I know this has been said for years now but speaking personally,i have started watching other sports (including MMA) where i only ever used to really follow boxing closely.
There are just so many things that p*** me off about it:-
1/ Mayweather-Pacquiao.(so far,not happening)
2/ American Heavyweights/Quality heavies in general.(lack of)
3/ Greedy and selfish promoters,fighters and managers only thinking of themselves and the now instead of the sport and the future.
4/ Ridiculous,bogus “world titles”.
5/ Corruption.
6/ “Fighters” like Amir Khan,David Haye and others deceiving the casual public by parading themselves as champions when they are nothing of the sort.
7/ Divisions like Featherweight where you have excellent fighters Chris John,Yuri Gamboa,Celestine Caballero and JM Lopez and no one will fight one another (will Caba ever get a fight with one of these guys?To be fair to the UFC,if the same situation occured in one of their divisions,at least 2 of them big names would have fought by now)
8/ Weak matchups where the winner is obvious before the bell has even rung.
I could go on but i am starting to depress myself (and probably others :) but all i can say is if boxing continues to falter or even decline,i don’t know if i will be as big a fan in 5-10 years time when there are other quality,competitive sports to follow.
There is only so much BS i can take and i don’t care for building fights up and hype,especially when left too late.
At Second Look
The only one i don’t agree with on your P4P list is Darchinyan.He reminds me of a Naseem Hamed type-all big punch and limited ability who gets taken apart when matched against a quality boxer.
Matt
Great comments mate. There IS far too much fannying around today. Plus, I also think we’re short changed in the UK as far as boxing goes. We have Sky and that’s it. None of the other muppets show it, or very little when they do. You don’t sound depressing, just stating it as it quite clearly is.
There are so many potential doozies out there that just seem to fizzle away.
by Phill on Jul 11, 2010 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cheers Phill.
Yeah boxing and especially boxing coverage is a joke in the UK.
I hate how Sky waste money on a gimmick like Prizefighter (the novelty wore off for me quite a while ago now) and boring domestic title fights.
Personally i would much rather see 2 or 3 big fight cards from America than 10 mediocre Commonwealth,British or Euro “building fighters” type cards.
You get the occasional sweet Mother of Pearl domestic dust up but most are mismatches or irrelevant to the world scene.
I just like watching the world class guys and top level prospects personally but i realize some people like the domestic stuff.
Sky need to mix it up more.
More and more now
On Sky, it’s fighters with unpronouncable names too (nothing wrong with that, by the way). But they’re not even familiar faces/names these days. I must be gettin old ffs!!
by Phill on Jul 11, 2010 3:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah , I agree about the Boxing vs UFC comparison
Idiot Dana White said about a month ago that Pacqauio or Mayweather would get beatdown if they ever fought in the UFC. Thats one of the more redicolous comments ever made. Not because its false, but just because thats not they’re sport. Someone should’ve asked Dana White if Anderson Silver could beat Mayweather or Pacqauio in a boxing ring, or who would win between Mike Tyson and Brock Lesnar in a boxing ring.
Dana White is an idiot.
I dont like that boring, ground game, submission crap anyway.
I love watching ground fights
Despite knowing really very little about many of the elements involved.
I also don’t think that Dana White is an idiot. No self-made men, who are that successful, are idiots.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Just my opinion
Me personally, I cant watch two heavily muscled, full grown men laying on top each other for 5 min at a time rolling around on each other while the crowd is booing and the ref has to keep standing them up just for them to end up back on the ground again.
I can watch the standup fighting, but no ground game for me.
As for as White being an idiot, I was really refering to him saying that his fighters could beat boxing’s best fighters. Its two different sports with two different sets of rules.
Wouldn’t it be crazy to brag that Kobe Bryant could beat Peyton Manning in Basketball, or that Peyton could throw a football further than Kobe? Thats my point. He’s trying to compare athletes from other sports and say what the outcome would be if they tried out in his sport ,but not vice versa. Yes I do think that Mayweather or Pacqauio would lose in the UFC, just like I think the best UFC fighters would lose to Mayweather or Pacqauio in a boxing ring. Thats what I mean by Dana being an idiot.
Sure
But I doubt that he really believes a large portion of what he says about boxing. I daresay that he uses a great deal of it for hype purposes, and to create the image that the UFC is doing everything right, while boxing stagnates.
It appears to be working!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 12, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and lose in a worse way I might add ......
Imagine Pac v the best MMA fighter in a boxing match at 140 pounds ….. Id give it 2 minutes max .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
You obviously don't work in my line of business
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
or mine
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Haha
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jul 14, 2010 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
One more thing I'd like to throw in there
is an ode to Zack Page. Shut out Kevin McBride last night, after taking the fight on 5 days notice. Gotta love a good journeyman who is willing to fight anyone, anywhere, anytime, and is still able to pull his fair share of upsets.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
BooooooiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngGGGGGGGGGG!
I just read a piece on another site in which the poster quotes from anaticle by JeffRyan in which he blasts the BWAA. Oh boy does he ever cut loose on Borges and Hauser.
May 2008 Ring Magazine
Jeff Ryan, Ryan Out Loud
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I’ve never known what to make of Ryan . I used to find him a little bit “wild” sometimes when he worked for KO . I think I remember him getting quite pushy and a bit annoying in one or two of his interviews – I’m sure one guy nearly gave him a slap but I can’t remember who . Seems to have settled down and become a bit more professional since he’s been with the Ring .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,i read that excerpt and i thought he sounded a bit like a baby throwing his toys out of the pram.
Yo Matt
Indeed . Like I said I think he’s taken a different style since being at Ring . That may well be due to being kept on a tighter editorial leash . Maybe .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well i can understand other writer’s criticizing the BWAA for being a boys club or whatever but it can also seem like jealousy and after reading Ryan’s stuff i just don’t think he’s in the same league as some of those guys.
I can’t think of specific stuff but the things you mention ring true and he just seemed full of self importance to me,on numerous occasions.
Why ugh!?
Hauser has proven his writing capabilities.
What’s Ryan ever done apart from write for the Ring which is a publication that you regularly criticize?
Don't get me started here. I want to keep things positive here.. Yeah, he can right but he
is overbearing and suffacating with a voice that matches. And his little boy’s club reflects it. Read Ryan’s article about him before you attack Ryan. And yes, I do criticize Ring because it is owned by Golden Boy (conflict), has been involved in any number of financial scandals, is too expensive, is too cozy with the BWAA which in turn is too cozy with the IBHF. But I never go after Ring. I only counterpunch which is my style. I rarely go after anyone and I never go after a fellow writers-never. But I hate with a passion exclusivity- Always have and always will. I don’t like Fraternities, Masons, Elks, being refrerred to as Sir, the Mafia, and other organizatiions that are exclsuive in nature. The BWAA represents everything that I loath, but I do like the members as individuals.
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I’ve read the article as i said above and i remember it clearly and as i also said above i thought Ryan sounded like a big baby who didn’t like the fact that he wasn’t getting enough recognition from the BWAA.
I donb’t know much about the BWAA but i don’t particularly care for Ryan’s Ring column in general.
Maybe he’s not as good as he thinks he is.
by Matt Mosley on Jul 12, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if you don't want to believe me about the BWAA, I can deal with that.
But check them out. I think you might be hesistane to say " in the same league as some of those guys" without knowing who “those guys are.” That’s my point. I’m not into conspiracy crap or anything, but I just don’t like the very real realationship between Ring, BWAA, IBHF, and Golden Boy.
Enough of this. Back to boxing. But your entitled to one last body shot. Keep it high.
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Well
you know about that BWAA stuff much more than i do(seen as i know very little about them) but even though i do keep my old Ring mags,i didn’t have to look that Ryan article up as it stuck in my mind and i knew which one you meant straight away.
From what i can remember it sounded like sour grapes that he wasn’t part of the club and he just seemed to be whining to me.Like i say i don’t really like his column.
I prefer Jim Bagg,especially for humour. :)
But i could be wrong about how the article came across.I do usually have a good memory though.
I’m not naive an i realise that corruption is a big part of boxing and like i said maybe i’m wrong about the article but that was the impression that Ryan fella left me with.
Anyway
like you say,back to boxing and i don’t want to argue but just one thing,if it was the same article i am thinking of Ryan seemed to be getting angry that he wasn’t considered for a place on the BWAA board and he was really venting his spleen.I can’t remember all that much about it apart from the impression it left on me about him.It could have been a different one from the one you mentioned?
I have just had a look and i must have thrown that issue out (i only keep certain ones) but whatever the things he said that might have been true about the BWAA,i thought he lost his head a bit and seemed to go on a rant about how writer’s like himself were kept out in the cold.
It was like he was airing his personal feelings in public and using the magazine as a platform.
Many writers and boxing people have hailed Ryan's atice as a
seminal one. On the Cyber Zone site (which generally ignore), Ron Lipton and Randy Gordon go after the BWAA with tooth and tong. They are svage in their attack. It’s in the last page s of their respective threads under Old Timers. Someone tipped me off to it.
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I should also add that I was once amember of the BWAA
but resigned of my own volition.
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I'm
just not a big fan of Ryan’s stuff though.
My argument was against his way of writing the article,not necessarily what he was accusing them of.
Anyone know this?
“I’ve got everything from egg roll to I’ll be dammed if I know.” Anyone recognize where that line came from and who said it?
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Damned if I know
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I think I've found it
But I won’t say who. Let’s just say the statement was probably made with a certain cadence unique to this one individual.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Gary Oldman in True Romance
Thought it was Christopher Walken at first, hence my previous statement
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Oldman eh?
Never known quite what to make of Gary . He’s done some allright stuff but his complete over playing of the bad guy in Leon turned me off him and also ruined a very good film .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
But he was great in State of Grace and the Professional. He is a madman's madman!
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Pretty much the same character as he played in The 5th Element
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yes Brick
Could have been the same guy
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a mention of Dean Francis in Ted's excerpt..
What’s happened to him… anyone know?
by Phill on Jul 11, 2010 2:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hi Phil
He got stopped in the cruiser prize fighter torney . That’s the last I heard of him .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Good evening Ted / Fellas
Great club once again Ted gota go watch Top Gear for hour . Love watching cars I can’t afford being driven by clowns .
Got no idea who said that egg roll thing .
Got no idea why burger boy is fighting Randy Cotureeither . He’s gonna get grounded and pounded . Has anyone told James you can’t shoulder roll out of an arm bar or a triangle choke . Burger boy is in the shite .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously...
Toney couldn’t even be bothered to train and diet properly for his own sport , does anyone think for one minute he’s going to take time to learn the ground game or even how to defend against ( stay on his feet) a shoot fighter of the calibre of Couture who’s take down and ground game is excellent ?
They are both well past their best . Couture though is always in top shape , lives clean , always in the gym always ready to rumble come fight night . Toney on the other hand is a slob and has been for years . Talented but lazy sums up his career .
This fight has limited novelty value and , of course , JT has a chance of catching RC but that chance is small imo .
Toney is going to wish he as back in pizza hut the moment his feet leave the floor and he hits the canvas and realises he hasn’t got a clue what to do .
Randy is going to win this easy ..imo …..and I really mean easy .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
probably, but as an 8 to 1 underdog, I'm still considering a minor bet on JT
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Matt
“minor” – yes mate . He’s got a punchers chance and that is it . 8 to 1 eh ?
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He's James Toney
At heavyweight. He doesn’t even have a puncher’s chance.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
that's the reality
I don’t think he KO’s Couture with a clean shot – so he’s got no shot.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I didn’t give Mercer anything more than a punchers chance …but he was/is a puncher and what a punch it was .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Mercer beating Tim Sylvia
was worse for MMA than Couture beating Toney will be for boxing,imo.
Sylvia wasn’t that far removed from being a top 10 MMA heavyweight at the time and Mercer was about 46,and he KO’s him within seconds and in an MMA cage.
THAT was really embarrasing for MMA.They even admit it on Sherdog,etc.
Tim berrrrrrr
Was his new nickname after that .
Hell of a slap .
Ray Mercers always had a great dig… ask Tommy Morrison . Brutal .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
My stepson has it I believe
I’ll have a squint if you recommend it .
He’s got his first MMA fight in 3 weeks on a show in Bath . Not long now …..
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, these posts are kind of proving my point about the importance of
Toney vs. Randy.
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It's not important Ted
Not to me , certainly not to boxing and I don’t really give a rats ass what the mma guys think .
I can’t see how Toney can win this ….therefore it aint “important” as much as a foregone conclusion ( if there can ever be such a thing in the fight games)
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
My reading the Couture book has nothing to do with thje Toney fight.
I have followed MMA for over 2 years now and have a large collection of all the old Pride and UFC events.
It’s a close second to boxing nowadays in my sporting interests.
by Matt Mosley on Jul 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it a lot. I like Cung Lee a lot. I like the athleticism required.
I think it is foolhardy to dismiiss MMA out of hand like a lot of Boxing fans so, particularly on one tabloid site I occasionaly browze, but no longer post on..
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I doubt it
One’s on MMA’s biggest stage; the other was on some backwoods PPV that nobody bought.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Youtube
made Mercer v Sylvia available to millions.
by Matt Mosley on Jul 12, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi Ted, Magic Slim used to man the house band at my favorite local bar where I went to college—the Zoo Bar in Lincoln, Nebraska. I appreciate the reminder of his brilliance!
Like Scott, I don’t think boxing is any worse off than it has been for the last 10 years or so. It has changed a bit though in the last 10 years—with an even further decline in HW boxing and the emergence of a particularly exciting time for east Asian boxers. Also, Oscar has been replaced by Floyd as the sort of “public ambassador” of the sport, which all things considered is about an even trade off from my POV (Oscar, while more TV-friendly, always bugged me, and while Floyd is an immature prick, he and his family are at least more interesting). Also, the exciting divisions continue to get smaller, with supermiddle as the new HW and featherweight emerging as sort of the new welterweight—at least for hardcore fans—many casual fans will continue to ignore boxing until there is a real American HW champ.
I don’t really listen to new music, except NYC jazz and a couple of songwriters whose work I have loved for many years, like Stephen Malkmus and Will Oldham.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Are you a Cornhusker? Wow.NYC jazz is great and the NY Singers are great as well.
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Yup
I’m a Cornhusker and of course a college football fan. Pumped about Big Red’s move to the “Big 10,” which needs a new name. I moved to New York a couple years ago for a job. Always loved jazz, but never had this kind of opportunity to catch world class musicians live.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Nope
I’m from Long Beach, CA originally.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
You know, I can remember when it was the big 8 and the Michigan Stae made it the Big Nine and then
Penn State made it the Big Ten—or at least I think it went that way. I have alwyas been a Big Ten fan even though I got a football scholarship to Old Miss. Go figure.
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Also, I have been a jazz fan ever since HS. Grew up on West Coast Jazz (as in Howar Rumsey's Allstars) and then morphed to
hrad bop as in Bird, Miles, Monk, Powell, etc. But I also was wild about Clifford Brown.
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Of course, being from Chicago and all, I always liked the blues-- but with a boogie/juke joint
sound as in Houndog Taylor. Yeah, Jazz, Blues, Football were very, very BIG with me back in the day. I have some major frustrations about not following through with football, but hard choices had to be made.
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I love Chicago jazz too,
esp from the old days. Pee Wee Russell is my favorite clarinet player of all time. Lived in Chicago for a summer, but the scene was mostly blues when I was there.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
2005
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jul 12, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Toney will lose to Couture so prepare yourself for that
what does it say? – nothing. But Couture is the BHop of that game in his ability to create and stick to a gameplan. He’ll put Toney on his back and that will be that.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Yes indeedy .
I see pain and the inability to breathe due to severe strangulation coming Toney’s way . James “choked out” Toney shall be his new name .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
ya know what – I think Dana will get across to Couture that he wants a ground and pound stoppage. Dana wants this fight to be brutal. I think Couture will quickly get a takedown, and thereafter take his sweet time getting to mount. Couture will clinically drop elbows and punches and Toney will be a bloody mess at the end.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I wish they would put Dana in the cage with some destructive puncher.He loves all this “WE are gonna make an example of Toney” crap.
Fair enough Toney has been shooting his mouth off but i get sick of White’s cheerleading on the sideline.
He’s like the little shit at school mouthing off while stood behind all the big kids.
I seriously hope Couture wins but then James KO’s Dana (girls name) on the way out of the cage.
Oh he’s great at what he does,i realize that and boxing could do with guys like him,making the best fights.I would just prefer it if he would stay in the background more.
It’s like he thinks he’s as big a name as the fighter’s.
Agreed
He’s a wanker …but he’s rich .
I’d rather be a rich wanker than a skint nice guy .
Any rich wankers out there fancy swapping lives ?
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I'm dealing with a very famous woman CEO who falls into that category
Would she still be called a wanker?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yes Brick
Many people think the word should only be applied to men but I have it on very good authority from the Queen herself that it is a uni-sex phrase . It’s her language ( Queen’s English) so therfore wanker can indeed be used to discribe the bitch in question . hehehe
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Female Wankers are " Diddlers " LMAO
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
But they are also wankers.
Since I’m already skint, but not all that nice, I’ll take skint—
And being able to live with myself.
The “rich” are another exclusive club, so you shouldn’t think much of them, Blast. More exclusive than the Mafia which just calls for a level of sociopathy and the ability to hang around in front of social clubs a lot.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Rather warm here in Attleboro
and busy, Sir Jack. Just read of a heatwave in Ol’ Brittania too.
Might should use Toney (after Burger King trip) to plug the Gulf hole.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw a while back, a British film that I liked--
Fishtank.
And then a great one about the Appalachian folk, Winter’s Bone.
Mr. Oldman weren’t in neither, but you can’t have it all.
The above info has no relevance, but I am not on the sauce.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I may open a shrine to Manny vs. May ("The Fight")
right here on my front porch.
A kind of black hole conceptual art piece.
I love the tattoo hookers who walk down my street.
Want to get them to stop and ask, “What’s that.”
Not sure of where to go from there, maybe egg rolls.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
lol!!
I like the sound of your street mate .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Try "Harry Brown"
stars Michael Caine.
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything over 12c is a heatwave
where I am mate .
It is nice to have some good weather for a change though but I sold my bike (Japanese and very rapid) because a Brit biker is a wet biker and the Lord now decides that now we are to have a tropical climate . Typical .
If this global warming keeps up I ’ll def. buy another widow maker though.
Stepson has his first fight in 3 weeks – will send you the vid. via email if you like ( if all goes well that is hehe).
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even get celsius.
But I understand the frustration.
Massachusetts is going to be the new Florida—
Didn’t like the old Florida.
I’d love to see your stepson’s first bout. Is he nervous?
Too early for that, though—right?
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Been going to a franchise (LA Boxing)--harmless stuff,
boxing-cardio workout in which Mike Culbert, who Ted termed a blue collar fighter in a great article he wrote,
tries to kill a few yuppies and some amateur boxers in one hour. Bloody the knuckles up a little, huff around,
and remember that you were once a (amok) youth.
But some young beauties do the workout too in their brief little shorts and adorable pink gloves. Heart attack stuff there, so I just sweat and work out.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Generational Bias--
Magic Slim kicks Robert Cray’s ass.
Faulkner eats Cormac McCarthy’s lunch.
But people dance funny in the 50s—
And the 70s need to be wiped from history.
Fair and balanced, that.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
P.S.
My neighborhood is nice.
Don’t let me misrepresent it.
Just a mixed use area.
by Don From Prov on Jul 11, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why? Disco ducks were big back then.
And the 70s need to be wiped from history.
Pray for Nick Charles
Great your keeping fit
I sadly am not . It will be my downfall I’m sure .
“But some young beauties do the workout too in their brief little shorts” sounds like a GREAT gym Don.
The only “beauties” in my local gyms have very few teeth and very many tattoos . Man , when those girls get a sweat up it’s time too leave …or open a window .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 12, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Your right
They are . Some of the guys started spraying them with stuff like carpet cleaner but even that didn’t work . Some of those girls could empty a gym quicker than ?? ???
(I have shown great restraint here with my sense of humour and will not type what I was going to because if I did on open forum you would not be happy ….trust me ).hehehe
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
--
ome of the guys started spraying them with stuff like carpet cleaner
LMAO.
There must be some point at which a lack of teeth is a good thing, but I don’t ever want to get to that place. Bridges and cardboard housing come to mind.
by Don From Prov on Jul 12, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
cardboard housing
is all the rage in the UK since the recession .
Mine is fine in summer….. a little soggy in winter but eco friendly as they come .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes Don
Too early for nerves .
But I am trying to get under his skin a little , just to prepare him for that three hour count down when he won’t be able to sit still …dry mouth no matter if he tried to down the Atlantic … that time when he realises he may have to take the toilet into the cage with him ….. Thats coming and it’s always the worst part of fighting ( except if you lose and then that’s obviously the worst part ) .
If he wins I’ll send you it out , if he doesn’t then he may erase the video hehe
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 12, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
My nerves used to = farting quite a bit.
Firday nights, seven or eight of us jammed in a station wagon, to Fall River to box was a challenge—
But Saturday nights riding to Lowell—a long drive—brought me some very serious death threats. A lot of talk of disposing of my vile self in a river.
Trainer claimed that I won a particular bout because they put the poor boy who was to box me one locker over. Twenty minutes of my nervous releases and the trainer claimed he saw the color drain from my opponent. Lad’s legs were gone. Barely a need to lay a glove on him.
by Don From Prov on Jul 12, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
lmfao
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard a win put down to “nervous releases” .
Jesus Don ….maybe they should have sent you to Afganistan .
Al qaeda would not stand a chance against special agent Flatulance .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm under government orders to say no more.
But they are not getting me into one of those cruise mother-fockers. I know the end of that story.
by Don From Prov on Jul 13, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't get celsius ?
Water freezes at zero and boils at one hundred . What’s not to get ?
Any value with a minus before it is fooking cold . That’s also easy .
Using a scale where water freezes at thirty something and boils at two hundred and something is madness if you ask me .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 12, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That's
exactly the problem with all this
celsius shit: It is far too sensible.
I hope your stepson hangs in there.
Please do send tape. I’ll reimburse.
(as long as no Euro to dollars crap is involved)
by Don From Prov on Jul 12, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No issues with reimbursement
He’ll youtube it – I’ll send you the link .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ps
The UK is not in the Euro zone (thank f*** as if we were we’d be spending zillions saving Greece …zillions we ‘aint got in broke Britain ).
£’s here .
The Brits are European …but do not like the idea generally so we didn’t sign up to their funny money goings on .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Too Right,Sir Jack
English first,then British,then European a very distant 3rd,if at all,as far i’m concerned. :)
Surely you mean ...
Welsh first , British second and European if the USA attacks us .
hehehe
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
thought that may bring a little smile .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Good idea , suggest it to BP .
Plug the well with the Toney .
Good ol’ BP eh ?
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not about Boxing though.
I think in his mind, he’s going to make example of the Sports Media for nuthugging Herschel Walker like he was the new big thing. He thinks this will bait them so when Toney does lose, he can show how idiotic the media was.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
In other news, Paul the Octopus has a perfect run picking games in the World Cup. Conrgrats to Spain. Congrats to Paul.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Ask Paul if Manny and Floyd will ever fight . That’ll fook him up .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 11, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
Will we get to see James “fridge lights out” Toney fight Couture in the UK?
by Phill on Jul 11, 2010 6:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Will the circle be unbroken
Good stuff Ted- Is Boxing Shot in the US ? Nah, Just taking a hiatus for a decade or two.
I believe it will come full circle like it has done many times over its history. For that to happen though it will have to make quite a few turns up a mountain though. For starters, its going to take US fighters with the right frame of mind to stay in shape and fight 15 fights before they get any kind of title shot. Not this bull crap, fight 6 times and win the ygrebc title in a super light heavy cruiser division (approx 185 1/4 lbs to 186 1/2 lbs title.)
Get federally regulated is another way to hasten the process. Amateurs are there but their mgrs and trainers have been around for a zillion years and they want it all now-gotta change that mindset. Right now though I’ll continue to read your articles on the 1940’s and 1950’s. Thanks PS Larry Merchant is getting worse and worse.
Duddy and Chavez Jr on PPV last month- not on my TV though !
by BayonneBombersBoy on Jul 11, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
"Raging Bull" movie being updated
Ted- I want to mention to all that the anniversary of Jake LaMottas “Raging Bull” is coming out with a special upgrade DVD soon. (no actual date yet). MGM sent a camera crew to interview various people who associated with Jake in all aspects of his ongoing life. Jake himself did not partake but gave the go ahead for his nephew to oversee the story board. Many interviews including Martin Scorsese and old fighters and guests. Unclear if Robert DiNero gave his two cents. They filmed at the Ring 8 meeting last month and other ventures in NY City and have headed back to La-La land for final production. It will be added to the “special features” section on the re-release of the Raging Bull video. Might be worth a look-as its a no holds barred look at the real Jake LaMotta-not watered down like the movie.
by BayonneBombersBoy on Jul 11, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
Do youy belong to Ring 8? Its a good organnization like Ring 4 in Boston.
If there were more guys out there like your dad (may he rest in peace), boxing would be thriving.
Pray for Nick Charles
Ring 8
Yes I am an active member of Ring 8. We still meet in Long Island City, Queens, NY once a month and the present President is Matt " The Beta Bomber" Farrago.
On a typical meeting, we usully get about 150 people,with Voto Antuefermo, Iran Barkley, Henry Wallitsch(Vice Pres), Juan LaPorte, and quite a few others in attendance. Its still very well run, active in Boxing, organization.
by BayonneBombersBoy on Jul 13, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Question about the p4p
I like the list for the most part but I really don’t like Evil Vic being on that list. I think that he is a good fighter in his division but his two losses told me way too much about him, so that I would never put him on a p4p list unless he shows me something different. Just wondering what you saw in the little man to put him on that list?
magic slim!
i saw magic slim when i was in chicago for the steelers/bears game in september. had no idea he was playing, friends and i were downtown and decided to go find a blues bar to hang out for the night. we were told by locals to go to “kingston mines.” we took their advise and when i went in and i proceeded to almost crap my pants when i saw that he was taking the stage. pretty sweet night seeing one of my favorite musicians play live.
here is one of many many photos i took at the time. crappy quality but this is one i took from my phone.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
cool story
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jul 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I like your list pretty well Ted, all things considered. I balked a little when I first saw Dawson at the three spot, but upon reflection, I can see a strong case for it. As Waldo said above, I also think Vic isn’t worthy—not over Vlad, Marquez, or Calderon, anyway, in my book. I also have Ward over Bute and Williams over Martinez. And I would probably bump Kratingdaenggym for Pongsaklek Wonjongkam. I also might try to find a way to bump Bradley up a notch or two.
But when you have this small of a degree of separation from someone in something like a p4p top 10 list, I think you’re still pretty close.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Buddy Guy was the great musician?
I saw his name somewhere on the list of the best guitarist of all time. Was he that great? Never listened to his songs before. Johny Winter was one of the greatest guitar blue players in my opinion. His guitars solo was so amazing.
Poonsawat is on the list!
Wow! what an honor! However, Andre Ward should not be included in Top 10 of the Best P4P list. He’s a dirty fighter.
MMA
Seems like more and more chicks down here are turning on to MMA – as competitors especially. Street level self-defence appeal for women. Some girls I know have transitioned from boxing to MMA – I pity the fool taking a swing at these arm-triangle spider monkeys. One of em’s running loose in Vegas!
Dig the Alice In Chains nod SC- Black Gives Way To Blue current soul-soother of mine. Facelift big fave for a long time. City of Fire, the instrumental delights of Pelican High on Fire’s newbie and Oceansize – all good right now.
Down here, Melbourne based welterWale Omatoso (17-0 15 KO) looks a good young prospect . Stopped Augustus, one of the few. Big puncher.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Danny Green vs Paul Briggs
Guaranteed war.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Shame it wasnt 5 years ago Goaty , I might have been interested ;-)
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
I heard Fenech and Billy Hussein have got Paul in good shape JC – and he always was a super-fit bastard hey. Not enough on it’s own but he’s got that proud Muay Thai warrior spirit. And he and Green do have gym-war history.
Briggs says he was confronted by a Gold Coast gang a while back – smashed one hero, out cold, and the rest shit themselves all the way home . Reckons this sparked his return to the gym.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Finally Found It
Uncle Ted,
Good post.
by HoboMullen on Jul 12, 2010 6:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Buddy is my kinda Guy, Why?
He is flippin’ trippin’ talk bad about him, I’m gonna give u a whippin’ I’m waiting! Clocks Tickin’ his beats flowin’ no skippin’ that was awful.
by HoboMullen on Jul 12, 2010 7:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fron the legendary sheriff
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Pray for Nick Charles
Ted,
Rumor has it you are working on a fourth book. Can you tell us what it is about? Love the club.
Rumor is true, bond. I am about 40% through my 4th one which is about crime. Some of the
chapters eve scare me. All kidding aside, I am really hyped about this one. Initially, I was having a hard time putting my thought down onto paper, but then like magic, I somehow broke thropugh the barrier and now can’t wait to type stuff. I just got an idea today and will work on it as a new chapter. The goal iof the book is to affirm the notion that truth (crime-wise) is indeed stranger (and scarier) than fiction.
And if ayone would like to let me have their ideas about this, feel free to do so.
Pray for Nick Charles
Martin Bryant , Ivan Milat and the " SnowTown" murders come to mind in Oz , Ted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowtown_murders , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpacker_Murders . Grim stuff .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Snowtown
Spent the night there once, slept in the back of my truck after I’d delivered a piano, circa 1990. Small town, only a few hundred people, but enough storage space for a serial killer.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
The rent is very expensive at Snowtown
Did that bloke offer to let you spend the night in one of the 44 gallon apartments they sell on time share there mate?
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
hehe
It was probably the sick bastard’s piano I delivered. – serenade the dead. Any offer from bender boy would’ve met with polite refusal JC. That and a speeding roo-bar.
Milat lived down the road from my folks. No wonder they buggered off to Tasmania.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
The Club is an institution
Thanks to BLH for supporting the Scotch & Cigar Club. It allows me to sneak in to the grown folks boxing club, and soak up the atmosphere and knowledge. Keep it up Ted.
Suge, my man, you are always welcome in the club. Frigging West Coast legend in the house.
On the Gind Radio
Pray for Nick Charles
Great Read Ted , thanks Mate!
My fave electric blues players 1. Jimi Hendrix 2 . Albert King 3 . Albert Collins 4 . Lightning Hopkins 5. Howling Wolf’s guitarist Hubert Sumlin . The first two are southpaws . I’ve been grooving on the new Hendrix release " Valleys Of Neptune" for the last 2 weeks. I prefer old hip hop like NWA , Public Enemy or even the real old school stuff like Grand Master Flash or even further back Jamaican Toaster – original rapper Big Youth’s " Screaming Target " album . I’ll leave the grunge to the experts as it never really turned me on. If I could Id drop Floyd jr and Manny out of the top ten . If I was being a hard nut I’d say they are both 147 pound fighters and their resumes at their fighting weight arent exactly stellar . You could make an argument that Wlad Klitschko and Chad Dawson both have a better class of opposition AT THEIR FIGHTING WEIGHT than either of the top two. Adamek , Pascal and even old Glenn Johnson are as good or better than the likes of the 38 year old Mosely and Clottey . Wlad K has basically cleaned out his division . If Ward convincingly beats Dirrell I believe he deserves to be rated above Pac-Money as well . At his weight Kessler and Dirrell rate above Manny and Floyds 147 pound opposition . I rate Manny above Floyd because I believe his win over Cotto is better than any of Floyds wins at 147 . To be controversial here’s my top ten P4P 1. Wlad K 2 . Manny Pacquiao 3 . Floyd Mayweather jr. 4. Chad Dawson . 5. Tomas Adamek 6. Andre Ward 7. Vitali K 8. Tim Bradley 9. Sergio Martinez 10. Devon Alexander . 11. JMM Marquez . 12 Yurkis Gamboa. Visa Vis Couture – Toney about 10 years too late , senior citizen fighting isnt my cuppa tea. Thanks Ted and big GDays to all the crew.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Valleys of Neptune
I need to hear this JC. Hendrix plays Sunshine of your Love ? Beyond cool.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Hendrix does a version of Elmore James " Bleeding Heart"
Simply mind boggling
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Hubert Sumlin was a real underrated guitar player. Good call JC
bUT STEVIE rRY NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.
Pray for Nick Charles
Hesure as hell can. I've been catching Ronnie since waaaaaaay back.
But Johnny Lang can hit that guitar also and he can sing a song. wonder whatever happened to monster Mike Welsh?
Pray for Nick Charles
Animal Kingdom
Seen it Ted?
Reckon you might enjoy this one mate. Based on a Melbourne crime family and true events. Takes off from an incident based on the Walsh St murders, South Yarra 1988, and stays menacing and powerful throughout. There is more unsaid, more told by the camera than dialogue.
Two hours of enjoyable research perhaps?.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Walsh St
Bad shit for all concerned , wasnt the smartest idea to blast two innocent cops Goaty. I wont go into it but I actually knew some of the idiots involved in that . Fucking morons …..
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Bloody hell
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
News just in ...
Not boxing related but hey …it’s the club ..things are getting late and the booze is talking ..
It appears a drunken tourist tried to ride an 18 feet croc. at a zoo in Australia .
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/38/20100713/tod-drunk-man-bitten-after-trying-to-rid-045b8e8.html
I know some people who are quite mad but this guy makes them all look rational .
Aussies eh ? bet one of his mates told him he got a free pint if he held on for a full minute .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
LMAO
I’d want a free slab if I was gonna ride anything named Fatso.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Jul 13, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
a slab of Boags or Crownies mate
no run of the mill piss ty
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Fatso was spewing that they didnt shout him a beer
I’d bite the bastard myself if he jumped on my frigging back without shouting first , bad form yanno …..
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Crocodile Dumbdee
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
It is not possible to be sober
and sane and try to ride a Saltie.
Does “Aussie” have a special spot in the Psychiatric Disorders Manual?
Or does it have more to do with “fun-loving”?
God bless the boy, at least he weren’t ’et.
Good evening Don , God bless him indeed
He gave me a chuckle .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Psychiatric Disorder
See Mel Gibson.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Mel is ...
fast becoming a poster boy for the unhinged Goat mate .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He only need
jump up and down on Oprah’s couch to clinch the title.
by Don From Prov on Jul 13, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The South Park episode comes to mind Goaty
Mel’s a seppo ( septic tank – yank) , not an Aussie ( we claim em if they are having a bit of luck but give em the arse when the muck up or make an arsehole out of themselves) . Same as Russell Crowe ………
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
A pissed Aussie will try n hump anything
http://www.underwatertimes.com/news2/aussie_shark_hunter.jpg Aussie about to ride a bullshark ;-)
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
haha . Nice one .
How is it JC mate ?
Your right …I spent a fair bit of time with two Aussies in the past . Both funny as fook and both ruled by their dicks “ride anything” was spot on . They used to say that all that sun plays havoc with the hormones .
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You know us well mate lol
We wont go into the sex lives of the Aussie convicts hahahahaha
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Convicts !! haha
Nah those two idiots ( and I mean that in the funny sense) were from Perth . Came over on a sort of job swap for a year .
Convicts sex lives – I’ve just really got that ! lol !
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jul 13, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Very good mate
We are have a bloody winter warm spell , its been 24 C in the day and it was bloody 17 last night . Cant whinge about that .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
----
"Once the crocodiles get hold of you, they are not renowned for letting you go
Sounds like the dreaded tattoo hookers of Attleboro.
Problem with those hookers is that they can get infected by getting those Tattoos.
Pray for Nick Charles
I wonder if two pair of attleborough hookers equals a full house of Tweed Heads ones .
Poker titles , Tweed Heads hold em .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Ted, you come off as having mixed feelings about Chicago. I know you left in 1964 and never looked back, but don’t you miss it. The excitement, the energy, the culture, the hustle and bustle? You were a great High School athlete in your day. Shit, I remember watching you play in Lane Tech Stadium and/or Solders Field on Saturday Mornings. Christ, you were all city in two sports. that must mean a lot to you. Why the cynicism? I almost detect a bitterness. You love the music, but that’s about all you ever talk about.
Sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
Or— sex, death, and death.
I hate to miss The Bull’s club, so I’ll try to get in my digs.
1) Pound for Pound Top Dozen
Ted, the only guys I am concerned about are Caballero (who is big, but a little sloppy) and Darchinyan (who is wild and LaMotta-esque). Otherwise, looks great. Juanma has already made it for me on eyeballs alone.
2) Prospect of the Month: Brad Solomon
Yes. Yep.
3) The David Lemieux Watch
Fuck. LeMieux’s biggest problem right now is that fans are gonna flock to him. “Can he handle the spotlight” is the only question I have right now. Other than that, the Canuck is golden.
4) Mismatches of the Month and Worst Record of the Month
“Fifteen were making their pro debut! And yes, this is the same fighter who beat Manny Pacquiao o back in 1999.3-K’s batteries have long been dead. He need to retire now.”
Yup. Get out while you still can.
"Meanwhile Czech light welterweight has run up the worst record of the month going 1-40-1.
Those cats never get a break. Fucking World War territory.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Brown gloves
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Brown gloves are old school.
Old school is cool.
Therefore, brown gloves are cool.
All boxers who wear Brown gloves are cool.
David Lemuiex wears brown gloves.
Therefore David is cool.
Pray for Nick Charles
I am too old and fat
at age 43 and 235 pounds to be power-washing apartments in 90 degree temps… That be some bullspit, folks……
Okay… What’s this bull manure V.K. is gonna tango with Briggs? I’ll buy into that if and when Briggs’ ass is in the ring……..
I ache like hell….. I’m gonna shower up and watch Depp in “Public Enemies.”
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
Christ , I didnt even get to have my Pav v Chavez jr pick ;-)
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Isn't Zabby Judah scheduled
to get his ass kicked tonight against limited but rugged Santa Cruz on ESPN 2?
I might just gander there……..
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
Zab really is
a 135 to 140 pounder…… 147 was too much for Zab………
Santa Cruz looked gaunt / drained……. Did Cruz even eat a solid meal this weak?
Cruz didn’t take that uppercut very well………… Zab can punch a bit, but Cruz had no starch in his body from the opening bell……..
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
Spot On Bill
Judah has always been 135 – 140 pound in size . Why he was at 147 I never really understood . Compare his size to say Margarito or Clottey.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
That is Zab's signature punch and this is the first time in along time that he was able to use it so well.
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Zab hit Tszyu harder than he hit that bloke yesterday and nothing happened .
Kostya always had a good beard .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Is Tuaman done?
I heard Tua looked like shit against Barrett on PPV last night. Reports say Tua was slow and plodding and struggling to cut-off the ring on Barrett. What happened to those scary left and right whacks Tua use to explode off some poor sob’s head and jaw?
“Tua-Holy” (WBF Title) in 2011 Or “Tua-V.Klit” (WBC Title) in 2011 would suit me just fine……
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
I hear that Monte floored him in the 10TH. The Samoan is done--as we knew him.
Back to the buffet table for him.
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