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Tomato Cans: Margarito, Hopkins, Haye, Toney and More

As he closes in on his 46th birthday, Bernard Hopkins could get another crack at the light heavyweight championship. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

I haven't done one of these "Tomato Cans" posts in a while, but I've got a lot of thoughts kicking around that I have only brief thoughts on, so what the hell.

* Antonio Margarito is going to get licensed in Texas. It's going to happen. Those who want to pat California on the back for their 5-to-1 ruling on not giving Margarito his license back should feel free to do so, but it's not going to matter a whole lot. Once the commission members started asking the questions, it was all but sealed. California wasn't going to say yes. But now, since Margarito spent five hours sitting through the hearing, he's in an easy position to receive a license from any state that says that they think he has been "rehabilitated" and that they feel he's done his time. It will be Texas. The deal to host Pacquiao-Margarito at Cowboys Stadium is all but done. Texas has had no problems licensing fighters who couldn't get in in other states before, and we're not exactly talking about guys (Holyfield, Valero, etc.) who were going to be fighting in bouts that might put 70,000 into a giant stadium in Arlington. We discussed in this thread that it was essentially a show trial on Wednesday, and it was. There's no getting around that if you're being logical. Margarito was never going to be licensed in California, but for going through the motions with the CSAC, he's free to seek a license elsewhere, and they had to know that's exactly what was going to happen.

* New light heavyweight champion Jean Pascal discussed the possibility of fighting 45-year-old Bernard Hopkins on Friday Wednesday Night Fights last night. Hopkins looked really worn out and tired in his pathetic "fight" with Roy Jones Jr. in April, and even though Pascal is hardly a flawless champion, his youthful ability to move might in itself give Hopkins serious issues. I know he handled Kelly Pavlik with ease, but that was two years ago now, and all he's done since then is tune up with Enrique Ornelas and walk through a foul-fest with Roy. I'd much rather see Pascal pick on someone his own age. I've had enough of the world's best light heavyweight kicking the feet out from under oldsters.

* Can you believe that after another full year of talk, David Haye has wound up not fighting either Klitschko brother, and will instead have to face Audley Harrison? For all his big game, that would leave Haye with a heavyweight resume of Monte Barrett, Nikolai Valuev, John Ruiz and Harrison. Oh, and that fight with Tomasz Bonin in 2007. Don't want to forget that one.

* The WBC's incredible bias has gotten way out of control. Erik Morales will be fighting for a "Diamond belt" at 140 against Willie Limond. Oh, and by the way: Morales is ranked the No. 2 contender at 140 pounds, a division in which he has never fought a single fight in his entire career.

* A few UK-based fighters are taking big shots in the near future. On September 4, Ricky Burns takes a crack at Roman "Rocky" Martinez, who we have ranked No. 1 at 130 pounds. The week after that, Jason Booth tries his luck against Steve Molitor for a 122-pound title. Burns and Booth will have home field advantage, but that won't be the case for "The Boxing Bin Man," Rendall Munroe, when he targets Toshiaki Nishioka on October 24. All three of the UK guys will be considered heavy underdogs, and of the three, I suspect the tough Booth has the best shot at pulling the upset.

* Pound-for-pound, Showtime has flat-out killed HBO this year. And that's even handicapping for Gus Johnson.

* I hope after tonight's easy wins for Erislandy Lara and Yordanis Despaigne, we see the current crop of talented Cubans take some steps up soon. Yuriorkis Gamboa, Odlanier Solis and Guillermo Rigondeaux, like Lara and Despaigne, don't need all this seasoning, and it's not like they're pulling in the big dough for these fights, either. Not all will be P4P guys or anything, but it's an exceptional group of talent and with the way boxing careers can slip away overnight, I hate feeling like we're missing out on true prime years to do the same old boxing build-a-record with guys who are levels beyond needing it.

* I'll guarantee Tomasz Adamek fights a Klitschko before David Haye does. Even if Adamek loses a shocker to Michael Grant.

* I have rarely felt that any fight looked on paper as much like "going through the motions" as the coming Mikkel Kessler-Allan Green bout. Green was frustrated and clearly disheartened by the dominant performance he faced against Andre Ward in his first Super Six bout, and with a minuscule chance that he'll advance into the elimination rounds, I'm having trouble seeing the moody Green get himself up for a fight in Denmark with Kessler, though a win could net him a title belt and another big payday, even if he didn't advance. And on the topic of the Super Six, if those whisperings about Andre Dirrell pulling out instead of fighting Andre Ward come true, I think that'll say more than enough about him as a fighter.

* There has been some minor talk about Humberto Soto fighting Miguel Acosta if they both win their next very winnable fights. Don't bank on it. Acosta actually has a pulse and knocked out the man Soto refused to fight (Urbano Antillon).

* Miguel Cotto, undersized and all, will tear Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. to pieces on December 4. It will not be close. Cotto, even past his best after years of grueling fights, is simply a different class of fighter, and Chavez has seen nothing remotely close to him in his entire 43-fight career. Freddie Roach may be a wizard, but some things are just beyond coaching.

* Whatever the reported amount of buys for Shane Mosley-Sergio Mora winds up being, subtract 20,000 or so and I suspect you'll be closer to the real number. That or Saul Alvarez is already a draw.

* I've got the funny feeling that James Toney will lose by DQ at UFC 118, then claim he was too extreme for MMA. With the way Vitali Klitschko chooses opponents nowadays, it might work out.

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I don’t hate the idea of Pascal/Hopkins as much of you. It wouldn’t be my preferred bout, but we need to see Bernard lose to one of the young guys before we can truly call his era over.

I agree on all other points though. Well… I don’t know. Cotto/Chavez… It is just that I don’t think Cotto is really “in it” like he used to be… I think that fight is a little more of a toss up than people want it to be. I’d still favor Miguel though.

by jcarr71 on Aug 19, 2010 3:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll bet on Hopkins over Pascal.

I dont think anyone would think thats a dumb idea knowing how Hopkins handles big fights that he’s supposed to lose, and not just lose, but lose badly. It seems like in those fights he flips the script and not only makes those guys lose, but lose badly.

by The Floorer on Aug 19, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopkins could beat him. He’s still incredibly smart, and I also don’t know how seriously he took Roy or Ornelas. He didn’t look very good against either of them, though.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose it wouldn’t suprise me that much but then Pascal is no Pavlik.He is fast and explosive and uses movement and i think he would make Bernard look his age somewhat.
He is also bigger and stronger than Pavlik.
I’d definitely be picking Pascal here,and i’m a Hopkins fan.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would pick Pascal very cautiously because I think he can make Bernard do more than he wants to. I still do think that’s a key to beating this aged version of Bernard. He can’t hunt guys down the way he could in his physical prime. In a way, he relies on them to come to him, and then he makes them make mistakes. I don’t think a shred of his mental game is gone, but physically he’s … well, he’s 45 years old and even though guys are fighting effectively longer than they used to, boxing is still a young man’s game. The way Pascal fights by using the entire ring and jumping in and out with power shots wouldn’t be helpful for Bernard. I mean Pavlik let Bernard take him anywhere Bernard wanted to take him. Pascal doesn’t fight that way. He’s not an in-the-trenches guy like Tavoris Cloud.

I also will say another reason I don’t want to see it is the idea of watching Pascal just pick apart and pick on an old man who would have demolished him prime-for-prime. I never enjoy those fights.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Bernard could once again achieve the unlikely as the underdog(as far as i am concerned) against a young(nearly 20 years younger!),hungry,fast lineal champion like Pascal,who just defeated a guy who was in a lot of people’s top 5 P4P lists,he really would be up there with the very best of all time,imo.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats because no one was saying how those guys were going to beat him senseless

Its like once he hears people doubting him, he just steps it up another 10 levels.

by The Floorer on Aug 19, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t disagree. Whenever I watch B-Hop-Pavlik (and I watch it sometimes to try to understand B-Hop’s genius), I remember him staring down press row after the fight. It was chilling.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 20, 2010 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

After last w/ends fight i believe Hopkins would have had a better chance against Dawson with his pedestrian pace and often predictable style than he would the speedy Pascal.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 20, 2010 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but you forget, Bernard never loses. (Even when he does.)

Seriously, if he died in the ring he’d still claim he won.

Pascal Cleverly is what I want!

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by bazzlad on Aug 19, 2010 4:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Well I don’t care what Bernard thinks. I just want to see the torch passed like it was supposed to be to Taylor a few years ago.

by jcarr71 on Aug 19, 2010 4:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is the 1st time ive heard about Andre Dirrell pulling out

thats crazy…

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-George Lopez

by Eddie Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2010 6:43 AM EDT reply actions  

proposed solution

This Fall:

Ward vs. Bika
Dirrell vs. Andrade
Bute vs. Brinkley

Early Next Year:

Super Six knockout stage set: Ward, Abraham, Froch, Kessler
Bute vs. Dirrell
Andrade, Brinkley, Bika, Green can all fight each other

by taco pal on Aug 19, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be clear

It’s VERY much just gossip. I’m not trying to hang Andre Dirrell for something he hasn’t done or anything like that.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ward

should not be allowed 3 home fights in a row.It’s a big advantage for him.
That,and the split are what Dirrell is agrieved about.It’s only like what Froch said about not fighting if he had to go to Germany.I don’t blame Dirrell.It can’t be that hard to make the fight in Vegas or somewhere else on neutral ground.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

It can’t be that hard to make the fight in Vegas or somewhere else on neutral ground

And actually make any money?

by mcallan1 on Aug 19, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just reading some quotes form Ward and,as Brickhaus says further down,the purse splits were already set before the tournament so i’m not sure Dirrell has much to moan about there.
However,as far as the venue goes,Ward says he’s happy with neutral ground and mentioned Vegas.At first i though that sounded fair but then Ward has had 2 home fights while Dirrell has had 1 home,1 away.I really think that in all fairness,this fight should be in Dirrell’s hometown that way they are even with 2 home and 1 away fights in the first stage of the tourney.
I realise that they may not make as much money in Detroit and if Vegas is much more lucrative then go with that.
Wherever it is,it should definitely NOT be in Oakland.Lets keep the playing field fair.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 20, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ward should not be allowed 3 home fights in a row.It’s a big advantage for him.

Um how? Are you saying that if he fought not at home he would have lost? He has won almost every single round he’s fought in the Super Six (I had 1 or 2 rounds for Kessler), yet you think that this outcome would have been significantly different in a foreign location? This isn’t like Froch fighting at home where he got a gift decision, Ward beat the living sh*t out of both Kessler and Green in such a convincing fashion, that I can’t imagine a significantly different result at some other location.

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a distinction between process and outcome. Just because outcome would not change does not mean that process is unimportant.

by taco pal on Aug 19, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m not sure if I see why the process is important. Ward has to make less money to prove that he can win on the road, even though he will have to go to a neutral site for the knockout round?

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me, it’s because every one else has fought outside their hometown except for Ward.

by Polish Rifle on Aug 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the argument, but he’s already through to the next round and he’s going to go fight on the road….sooooo I don’t see the point of moving the fight because Ward has had too many fights at home. Now if you made the argument that Dirrell v. Ward will likely go to decision, will likely be close, and Dirrell wants every advantage he can get to move through to the next round, then yeah thats a good point.

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Process is important because sports are supposed to be played on a level playing field. We don’t say in baseball that because the Yankees are so good and are going to get to the postseason anyway, we might as well let them play all their games at home where MLB will make more money. The process is, of course, much more ad hoc in boxing, but the goal is identical. If anything, if it is in fact the case that the outcome for Ward would be unchanged anyway, then giving him more advantages than his competitors have received only hurts him in that it detracts from the amount of credit he would otherwise be entitled to.

by taco pal on Aug 19, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I though Ward’s loudest cheerleader might get his pom poms out.
Haha.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-4-6-8 who is Ward going to obliterate!

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirrell should not be taken lightly.He’s got the ability,if nothing else to pull it off,imo.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh this wasn’t a slight to Dirrell, just showing off the pom poms

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m starting to think it’s definitely “nothing else.” Ward isn’t the biggest puncher, but he beats people up, and Dirrell’s not big on contact.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not really interested in seeing that fight anyway. My gut instinct is that it will probably be boring because of the style matchup and the fact that they are friends.

by taco pal on Aug 19, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely think Ward deserves to be favourite but Dirrell has speed to go with that ability and,once again,as with the Abraham fight,he knows it’s all or nothing,only even more so this time.
I gave Dirrell a great chance against Abraham and,while Ward is a totally different fighter,i seem to remember not many giving him a chance of that upset.
Not many thought Martinez would beat Pavlik or Pascal would beat Dawson either.At this elite level,desire and motivation count for a lot.
I can tell Ward is a mentally tough fighter while Dirrell has his weaknesses but it’s also a fact that Ward knows he’s through to the KO stages and Dirrell knows he has to win.
Dirrell was on his way to a near shut out over a top level opponent until he was fouled by Abraham.He and Ward are the only two in the tourney to put on such emphatic displays.On ability i think they are the two best fighters in the competition and i also think Dirrell should be 2-0 in the Super6.
No way does Ward have it all his own way,imo.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way anyone has it their on way against Dirrell, Matt

The kid can hit, move, run…call it what you may…but he can stay in the ring and fight with the best of them. He is still young but he did beat Froch IMO in Nottingham and he was humiliating AA.

Ward has the intangibles to be on top of anyone he meets…but IMO Dirrell is the Martinez-like sleeper whose chances of winning this thing are greater than most are considering

by pakinpower on Aug 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ward has the intangibles to be on top of anyone he meets…but IMO Dirrell is the Martinez-like sleeper whose chances of winning this thing are greater than most are considering

That’s very well put,imo,and is pretty much how i see it.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a big Ward fan

and I agree with both of you guys. Dirrell has the best chance of any in the “6” to beat Ward. But it’s still not that great. Ward / Bute is the one I want.

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by Matt Miller on Aug 20, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The split is a BS argument

The guaranteed money for all the fighters was set when the tournament was signed up. I can understand wanting a neutral venue, but I’ve read quotes from Ward saying he’s fine with a neutral venue

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by Brickhaus on Aug 19, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ward has repeated that he has no problem in traveling, but he does prefer to fighting at home for the obvious reasons and the fights do bring some much needed business to Oakland. Dirrell is pretty much the only fighter who gets to whine about venue most because he got royally screwed in England.

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Froch would have almost surely gotten the nod over Kessler in England, and Abraham would definitely have gotten more low blow calls in Germany than he got in Detroit.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So having blatantly biased refs/judges is ok if the bias is for the home fighter? Both of those outcomes are poor interpretations of the actions that actually happened in the ring.

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez, dude. I thought maybe the “more low blow calls” part might have indicated how serious I was.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, you know I get all fired up about my boy Ward and my sarcasm meter goes on the fritz.

by Waldo Rastel on Aug 19, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cotto vs Jr.

Cotto is a Good Fighter but has been Beaten up Badley by Margarito,Pacman and Tough Fight by Clottey Tough Wars. I know that alot of People Say Jr. is Not in the Same Class of a Fighter like Cotto. Jr. is younger and more Durable, He will K’o Cotto. Cotto Wont Last 9 Rounds

by rgb on Aug 19, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I Wonder if the Mosley Fight with Mora will Sell as Many Tickets like when he Fought Margarito?

by rgb on Aug 19, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Not a chance in hell

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by Brickhaus on Aug 19, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

but isnt

mora big in so-cal? i could see it doing well at the gate but not on ppv…

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-George Lopez

by Eddie Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mora is big in L.A. by comparison to how big he is anywhere else, because he’s from there. If the tickets are affordable I think they’ll do OK at the gate. And Alvarez, Ponce and Ortiz will help, too.

Sadly with Lopez-Marquez off, they just secured themselves a new buyer in me. Fuck.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would Julio Cesar Chavez Jr do against Yuri Foreman? I think pretty darn good.

That said, he has at least a 3 in 10 chance against the incoming cruncher, Cotto.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Aug 19, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually think he would do very well against Yuri. I like Foreman and think he’s a decent boxer, but he really doesn’t like being hit. It’s kind of bizarre because fighting with that knee injury showed he’s no pansy, but he’s not good at getting hit. Not that he cowers so much as it seems to take him out of his game plan really easily. With Roach, Chavez should be able to improve his game enough to beat guys like Foreman. Junior certainly isn’t without some natural talent, but he seemed to me to mentally stagnate before Freddie got him.

Maybe next year they can get Chavez-Yuri for a sure-to-be vacant belt somewhere at 154. Top Rank has the pull for that, and Chavez is Chavez. Hell, the WBC might create a Sapphire championship for them to contest.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do I get if you are wrong?

* I’ll guarantee Tomasz Adamek fights a Klitschko before David Haye does. Even if Adamek loses a shocker to Michael Grant.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

A celebration that David Haye actually had the stones to fight a Klitschko, and maybe a decent heavyweight fight.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cotto-Chavez reminds me of Cotto-Gomez.

by taco pal on Aug 19, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's just about as bad a mismatch.

I reckon Chavez is worse in terms of talent, but the fight regains a remote air of respectability because of the size differential between the two. Cotto TKO 5.

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by Oli Goldstein on Aug 19, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless Chavez has become far stronger and better conditioned under Ariza

I would expect Cotto to be able to withstand any early onslaught the Younger might bring.

If he has, you may very well be right. JCC Jr’s reach and desire to mix it up….even to hook with hookers…. may create some real problems for the naturally smaller Cotto.

It is possible that many here including myself are unable to calculate the size differential….and that the taller longer Chavez might give Cotto a look he remembers not too fondly; that of the taller pressure fighting Margarito.

If that’s the case, expect some real fireworks until the first man falls.

by pakinpower on Aug 19, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a few

Of course Haye wants no part of either brother, never has, never will, but downnnnnn the road will jump at chance when one is really, really vunerable due to age and wear.

I know it seemed like both Dirrell and Ward wanted the whole thing to go away, to me. but I haven’t heard that Dirrell was looking at pulling out. That would shock me. He seems to have the most to gain. A would think Dirrell would be a pretty big underdog and just fighting him tough might be enough for him in his progression and a win would vault him to where only he could dream of.

Randy by DQ. Is a very interesting call. Though provoking. As out there as it might sound, it would kind of make sense. really he’s going to take a beating and instead of having that in history, he can talk his way around a DQ. And I’m sure toney know his way around a DQ and 3/4 of thier menu! (rimshot please). but I don’t want to let you off the hook that easy, now that you’ve called it, what can you see him doing for the DQ—A bite, low blows, fish hook? —-What do you think?

by John Genco on Aug 19, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Couture-Toney

It’s not like I’d put money on this or anything, but I sort of expect Toney to foul the shit out of him once he’s on the ground. Fish hook or eye poke or something really blatant. Then he’ll be like, I THOUGHT THIS WAS NO HOLDS BARRED, because his dad was the greatest death fighter of all time apparently. The closer it gets the more I think that fight is going to be a weird, stupid footnote in UFC history.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Prediction

It hadn’t occured to me but it is very plausible,imo and i can really see something like that happening.
If he can’t win fair he’s gonna go down cheating!

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair, for all his talk, Toney has never been known as a dirty fighter.

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by Matt Miller on Aug 20, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not in the ring under boxing rules,no.But this is different and the octagon and everything that comes with it is something he isn’t used to.
I can imagine him doing something,maybe not a ridiculous foul,but something against the rules,to save face.
We’ll see,he might suprise most of us and KO Couture!

by Matt Mosley on Aug 20, 2010 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely not

And that’s a good counter-point.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 20, 2010 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he get popped twice for pissing hot after fights? Sounds pretty dirty to me.

Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.

-SC

by The Lethal Haze on Aug 20, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Booth ..

knows it’s probably his last , best shot at the big time so I really expect this to be a great fight .
I ‘ve always liked his style but he pissed away a few years doing the gansta/clubs/drinking scene . He hit the bottle real hard for a while , it didn’t look like he’d ever fight again , let alone at a high level.

Disarm you with a smile ....

by Sir Jack Daniels on Aug 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

He hit the bottle real hard for a while

said “Sir Jack Daniels”

Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.

-SC

by The Lethal Haze on Aug 20, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Agree

that Booth has the best chance of the Brit fighters listed.

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

My favorite of the three is Munroe, who’s become one of my favorite fighters in the sport, but Nishioka is just too good, I’m guessing.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Munroe’s become one of your favourite fighters ? Interesting . Why ?

Disarm you with a smile ....

by Sir Jack Daniels on Aug 19, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just like the guy. Like his personality, like his story, like watching him fight. He’s worked hard to get a shot and is taking the risk against a guy basically no one thinks he can beat.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just about exactly why I like him too .

I think I’ll actually be nervous for Munroe come fight night and that doesn’t often happen .

Disarm you with a smile ....

by Sir Jack Daniels on Aug 19, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially

since Molitor might have slipped or isn’t as good as i thought he was,since the Caba loss.
I realise Caba is at just a slightly higher level fighter than Booth (:D)but if Booth can find a career best performance,he might be able to pull it off.
I think a lot depends on what Molitor is like.At the moment i would probably pick him (Molitor).
No big suprise there!

by Matt Mosley on Aug 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

 It’ll be a shit or bust show from Booth Matt .

Disarm you with a smile ....

by Sir Jack Daniels on Aug 19, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is Vitale supposed to fight, Timur Ibragimov? He has a dead pool from which to select. Not his fault.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Aug 19, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t seriously blame Vitali for his opponents. He can sell out in Germany against me, and they did offer the fight to Odlanier Solis, who is interesting and capable at the very least. But post-UFC Toney marketing could finally get James in the ring with a Klitschko — you know, if he actually wants it.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 19, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Lara in with...

Sechew Powell, but I don’t think Powell would be willing to risk his ranking.
Cory Spinks?…um, no, that’s not going to happen.
Daniel Santos?…that’s not going to happen.
Saul Alvarez?…no way GB does that (even though they promote both guys).
Yuri Foreman?…have to wait too long for that one.
Martirosyan?…no way TR does that.
Bundrage?…don’t think Bundrage wants that.
Kermit Cintron?

…hmmmm.

by geraldmcgrew on Aug 21, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

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