Mandatory Eight Count: James Toney in MMA
by Scott Christ on Aug 24, 2010 4:51 PM EDT
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UFC 118 Preview: James Toney v. Randy Couture And Boxing Technique In MMA (SBNation.com)
Brent Brookhouse of SBNation.com and Bloody Elbow takes a good look at Saturday's Toney-Couture bout at UFC 118. We'll dissect the fight a little more here at Bad Left Hook tomorrow.
Who Is James Toney? Understanding the Boxing Great Before UFC 118 (Bloody Elbow)
Steve Kim of MaxBoxing.com joined Luke Thomas on MMA Nation on 106.7 The Fan in Washington, DC to talk about James Toney before his MMA debut against Randy Couture at UFC 118. It's a terrific interview.
Capetillo denied license in PR (Fightnews.com)
Giovani Segura will fight Ivan Calderon this Saturday in Puerto Rico. But his trainer, Javier Capetillo, won't be joining him.
David Haye hits back at Audley Harrison's 'man up' jibe (ESPN UK)
Audley Harrison told David Haye to man up. Haye responded on Twitter with the classic retort, "Shut the Fcuk up Fraudley." It's a real cracker.
Wilfredo Vazquez Jr-Ivan Hernandez in Play For Oct. 16 (BoxingScene.com)
Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. (19-0-1, 16 KO) will return to the ring on October 16 in Florida, and it looks like his opponent will be veteran Ivan Hernandez (27-4-1, 17 KO). Hernandez is mostly a stepping stone-type, realistically. He was retired in three by Toshiaki Nishioka last October, and was retired in four by Israel Vazquez in 2006. He also has a KO-7 loss to Fernando Montiel (2005) and a UD-10 loss to Jose Angel Beranza (2006). He really hasn't beaten anyone of note in years, and his best win ever might be over Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson back in 2004, which effectively retired Johnson. It's really not much of a fight, but it's good to see Vazquez getting back in the ring. Hopefully next year he can test his mettle against some of the division's best. But I do get the feeling that Vazquez might be protected as a Coming Star of Puerto Rico for a little while.
Brooklyn boxer Dmitriy Salita tries to revive career after embarrassing loss in December (New York Daily News)
Dmitriy Salita returns from his terrible one-round loss to Amir Khan in December 2009, which saw Khan finish him off for all intents and purposes with the first clean punch of the fight, after which Salita was a staggering mess until it was stopped. He'll face club fighter Franklin Gonzalez in Brooklyn on September 1. We have a poster in The Fight Poster Project.
Team Berto in bad position on WBC mandatory (MiamiHerald.com)
Lyle Fitzsimmons takes a look at Andre Berto's standing with the WBC, as promoter Lou DiBiella is seemingly attempting to brush aside a fight with Selcuk Aydin, the WBC mandated challenger.
Cleverly and DeGale out to impress for boxing award (STV Sport)
Nathan Cleverly and James DeGale are among the nominees for the Boxing Writer's Club Young Boxer of the Year award. WHO R U PICKING?
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Berto needs to drop that stupid belt. The only thing that belt is doing is taking money out of his pocket and matching him up against mediocre competition.
Yep. But the boxers and promoters care. I think that’s slowly starting to change, but I mean ssssslllllooooowwwwlllllllyyyyyy.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 24, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its redicolous how these guys cherish those belts. If you think about it, it doesn’t make sense in today’s time to even have a belt. Theres like 10 for each weight class. So you’ll rarely ever have the chance to be the true undisputed champ. Then you have to pay that fee, and fight the boxers they want you to fight even though you have the possibility of getting a much bigger fight. I remember not too long ago one of these sanctioning bodies were trying to strip (I think it was Bradley) for trying to make a fight with Alexander before fighting the last guy he fought. It might’ve been Alexander who was threatened come to think about it. Threatened the guy for trying to make a career defining fight instead of wanting to fight a tomato can.
And then you have cases like Kelly Pavlik getting schooled by Bernard Hopkins and after the throbbing he’s still the Middleweight champ because he has a belt. How can you still call this guy a champ of any sort after that, because his belt wasn’t up?
I know, I know, their are plenty of times where guys fight without their belts being up and lose and still retain their staus. Its just hard for me to still look at them as “Champ”
The belts are just a waste in my opinion. I wouldn’t have a problem if it was one belt per weight class, but 10 is redicolous
Pavlik’s keeping the middleweight championship had nothing to do with him having a belt. It was because his fight with Hopkins was not a middleweight fight. You can’t win or lose a middleweight championship (belt or otherwise) with a fight at 170 pounds.
My point was that after the throbbing that Pavlik took he still gets called “Champ”.
Yeah I know technically he “is” the the champ.
What I was saying is that its hard to call someone a “Champ” with a straight face after losing all 12 rounds of a fight and getting thoroughly outclassed and embarrassed.
Thats not a “Champ” in my book.
The belts do serve a purpose though. Without them, it would be almost impossible for a good fighter who’s from a more obscure country and who lacks a super-exciting style to get anywhere in the sport. The sanctioning body rankings are 80% absurd, of course, but the mandatory rules present at least a possible avenue for fighters like that to get somewhere. Without that avenue they would have no hope at all – zero.
A perfect world wouldn’t be a world without any belts, but a world where the sanctioning body rankings were sane. That isn’t realistic, but among realistic options, I do think it’s better to live in a world where the belts continue to exist but are taken with large grains of salt, than to live in a world with no sanctioning bodies at all.
Was watching Roy Jones highlights last night, and still cant see how he landed that “gamecock” punch on James Toney so cleanly, quick and powerful to sit him down the way he did…..That was embarrassing. Especially because Toney was trying to clown around too and Roy just popped him and sent him flying to the bottom of the ring post.
That was vintage Roy.
The gamecock punch is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. It had no business happening, especially to someone as good as James Toney was.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 24, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
A bunch of guys couldn't hit James with a jab at that time...
and here comes Roy pulling that shit. It’s great.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 24, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
One other piece of news
Not really worth a full thing, but it’s looking like Top Rank is trying to have Guillermo Rigondeaux take a HUGE step up in class on the Cotto-Chavez undercard, against Ricardo Cordoba.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Excuse me
I mean the Pacquaio-Margarito undercard
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Would that likely mean that...
Montiel-Donaire would happen on the Cotto-Chavez card? If it happens at all, of course.
Last I heard
They were looking at that fight for early next year now.
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it’s crazy how Salita gets starched and it’s like he died and his career is over. who remembers Khan getting FLOORED by Breidis Prescott in somewhat similar fashion? now a couple fights later and Khan may fight Marquez…..crazy how the hype machine/guys in power influence boxing opinion in the public.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Aug 25, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
Except Salita isn't any good and never was
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Salita isn’t anywhere near as good as Khan. It has nothing to do with hype.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 25, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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