Bad Left Hook Special Coverage: Randy Couture v. James Toney at UFC 118
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 5:00 PM EDT
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PrintTonight at 10pm EDT, Bad Left Hook will present special fight night coverage of the Randy Couture-James Toney fight at UFC 118, live on pay-per-view from the TD Garden in Boston.
Note: This is not where you want to be if you want in-depth, round-by-round coverage and scoring of tonight's full event. If that's what you're looking for, head over to our sister site, Bloody Elbow, where the entire card will be covered by some of the best analysts you're going to find anywhere. We're here for the boxing circle curious who are watching tonight's card and might want a familiar place (a "Cheers" of sorts) to discuss the event in real time. We will have live updates on the Couture-Toney fight, and live RESULTS updates in the comments of this post, but we won't be providing serious analysis of the majority of the show. We're not qualified.
If you're here to complain about MMA, don't.
If this doesn't interest you, we understand, and ask that you talk about one of the many boxing topics you can find elsewhere on the site. We are not in the business of MMA coverage, but James Toney's foray into the sport has many of us at least a little bit interested, and that's why this is here.
| RANDY COUTURE "The Natural" |
JAMES TONEY "Lights Out" |
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Co- Feature |
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| Record: | MMA: 18-10 (7 KO, 3 SUB) | Record: | Boxing: 72-6-3 (44 KO) |
| Age: | 47 | Age: | 42 |
| Hometown: | Corvallis, Oregon | Hometown: | Grand Rapids, Michigan |
| Height: | 6'1" | Height: | 5'10" |
| Reach: | 75" | Reach: | 72" |
| Ranks/Titles: | MMA: USA Today/SB Nation #22 (Heavyweight) and #13 (Light Heavyweight) | Ranks/Titles: | Boxing: BoxRec #52 |
| TV: | UFC PPV - 10pm EDT | Venue: |
TD Garden - Boston, MA |
Also On the PPV Card:
Main Event, Lightweight Championship: Frankie Edgar v. BJ Penn II
Middleweights: Demian Maia v. Mario Miranda
Lightweights: Kenny Florian v. Gray Maynard
Welterweights: Nate Diaz v. Marcus Davis
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huh.
I think it be cool if you also covered the Davis/Diaz fight just to give your overage a “boxing” feel.
Whatever’s clever.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I just talked to someone who is going down to Boston to see the fight. I told him the thing could be over in less than
60 seconds. He said he “is going down there in a stretch limo with plenty of amber liquid and who cares?” He has a point.
Pray for Nick Charles
It’s a good point indeed. The show should be fun anyway. Even if he’s not a big fan, it’s a unique experience and a great production.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is...
…it’s not even the main event and the rest of the card is really good
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I’m gonna head over to local pizza joint to watch my first live UFC card. They got me interested. Just hope I’m not disappointed.
The last card I watched, Lesnar’s most recent fight, was pretty fun.
Yeah
My, only vaguely educated, opinion says that he kicks ass.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The guys to watch tonight will be
Demian Maia once the fight is on the ground, as he’s a wizard on the mat. You’ll be spoiled by watching his transitions.
Kenny Florian for having some of the better striking in MMA and getting zero credit for it. He evolved from a ground fighter to a kickboxer to a boxer and is now becoming a bit of a wrestler on top of it. One of the best overall fighters in MMA today.
BJ Penn is a legend of the sport and has immense natural talent. If he’s motivated and in shape, he’ll be a treat to watch. Last time he fought Frankie Edgar was a bit of a stinker though.
The fight that you’re most likely to pan as a boxing fan is Marcus Davis vs. Nate Diaz. Davis has pro boxing experience but has faded a lot and was always a bit of a journeyman. Nate Diaz is middling, has a great ground game, but is often happy to brawl it out. He has a somewhat effective pitter-patter volume punching style that his brother is much better at. It will likely be a sloppy boxing match in 4 oz gloves until Diaz remembers he’s a technician on the ground and pulls off a submission.
The Toney fight is a farce IMO. It’s best left ignored.
I hope you guys enjoy the fights. I’d stay and chat but I’m heading out to a bar soon to catch the fights. I’m sure guys at Bloody Elbow will be kind and helpful for any questions you have.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
BJ Penn
is probably my favourite all round MMA performer especially when,as you say,he is motivated and has no stamina issues.I think most boxing fans would enjoy watching him and Florian fight.
Some reckon Diaz v Davis could be FOTN and Couture v Toney is probably the least appealing fight on the card to me to be honest.
Saying that
about Penn,i don’t have access to WEC and i may change my mind when i see more of Jose Aldo in action. :)
One of the best things about the UFC is that almost every fight is well matched and there are hardly ever any gimme’s,imo.
Well Toney-Couture to me is a gimme. But you are right, they try to match the evenly to get competitive fights
I talked to you about the WEC before. For real man, you gotta get it by any means possible.
Beg, borrow, steal, download… whatever it takes. WEC is awesome.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I wasn't going to stay up
But seeing as you guys are doing this, and it sounds fun, I’ll take a power nap now, and be back later on.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
Turns out I suck at taking power naps
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What time does this start?
Also, if I stay home, I might comment a bit on some of the boxing going on tonight. I really want to catch the Maidana fight if I can find a stream.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
"This"
Meaning, is the 10pm above the start time for the whole card, or for the Toney fight?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Start time of the whole card
It really depends on the finishes (or lack there of) but I’m guessing Couture-Toney starts at 11:30
I’d guess around 11:30-11:45 would be right.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If James Toney
Who I can’t even stand watching box these days, is actually getting me out to a bar to go watch UFC for the first time ever, then I guess Dana White has done his job by making this “circus” fight.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
See my post about about who to watch if you're interested in learning about MMA.
I honestly could not care about the Toney fight. At all. I think it’s a detriment to the card and will be a waste of time. But I’m excited for the night of fights as there’s plenty of quality MMA to be had.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I mean
I’ve watched a decent amount of MMA before. Mostly WEC or Bellator because they end up airing reruns of those a lot of times late at night when I’m having trouble falling asleep, but it’s not completely foreign to me. I just know that (a) my girlfriend wouldn’t approve if I developed another expensive fight habit, (b) I was turned off by what I’ve watched in Japan and what’s been on those horrible mixed boxing/MMA cards, and © my girlfriend has a really visceral reaction against MMA, so I can’t really watch it while she’s around, whereas she’s learned to like boxing. Plus the wrestling part just doesn’t really excite me.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
To be honest
Most of the WEC cards on vs turn out to be better than some UFC cards in terms of quality of fights. But the UFC is the big time and it has the star power. It’s way better to go to a bar and watch it, plus you save a ton of money.
Yeah, but then I can't chat online :-(
Me and MMA fans don’t tend to mix well, no offense. If you’re someone who would wear an Affliction t-shirt, chances are we wouldn’t get along.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
It’s kinda difficult to find fans who realize MMA and boxing are two different sports, they seem inclined to pick sides.
I like both sports.It used to be easily boxing was my no.1 but MMA is almost on a par now for me,partly because boxing continually shoots itself in the foot.
I took me a while to start to like it Brick but that was probably because i was always comparing it to boxing but they are quite different sports.
Like with the subtle nuances and technical side of boxing,once i learnt more about the technical aspect of the ground game and what you they are trying to do,i started to appreciate it more.
If you listen to Joe Rogan explain what is happening it becomes much more interesting,imo.
I much prefer watching the kickboxers and Muay Thai guys in MMA than i would just watching straight up kickboxing/MT fights.That would bore me.
MMA has great variety,imo and so many ways to finish a fight.
I too
Think that Rogan is a very good commentator for newcomers to the sport.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough, it's not a sport for everyone.
But if you’re going to watch it tonight, I just hope you give it a good shot with an open mind. 4 of the top 10 lightweights in the world are competing against each other on the card in Kenny Florian, BJ Penn, Frankie Edgar, and Gray Maynard. Demian Maia is still a top 5 middleweight and has amazing ground work that should be fascinating, even to new[ish] viewers. Japanese MMA is… an acquired taste. DREAM promotes very hit and miss fights although PRIDE used to be the greatest thing in the world, although I’m a fanboy.
I would love to hear your takeaway at the end of the night on the overall card.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I am growing to really like MMA
But still find it rather difficult to stomach Pride. Like you say, an acquired taste.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The stomps and soccer kicks are a huge turnoff for lots of people, and I more than empathize with that
although I love them. Keeps wrestlers aware of what they are doing and prevents lazy shots from the outside for takedowns. But if I’m just getting somebody into MMA, I’m not going to show Wanderlei stomping guys heads in Japan. It looks so brutish.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Surely
It looks brutish, because it is brutish. No?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what he means though.Once i get to know the sport more and how most of the fighters are good sportsmen and respectful of each other i saw it in a different light to how i used to think of it:as thugs just out to kill the other guy by any means possible! :)
Pride would look a bit brutal to new MMA fans,imo.
Well... yeah. But it's also awesome and a big part of the game for some fighters.
Shogun’s stomps were a huge part of how he softened guys up for TKOs in PRIDE. It’s pretty amazing that he went from #1 in 2005 to #1 in 2010 in a totally different arena (octagon ruins ring footwork) and under different rules. When he knocked down Chuck Liddell you could see him turn his hips over for a kick and then step through instead of throwing it. Wanderlei did the same thing against Michael Bisping at the end of round 3, but even more pronounced. There was an art to it, and a reason why Chute Boxe (legendary Brazilian MMA gym) guys were so dominant with it.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Should the other fights on the MMA card at least be decent?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
They should be
I’m thinking Florian vs. Maynard could be a really entertaining fight.
Also if there is an undercard figth it will at least be exciting
on the PPV there is:
Penn/Edgar – Meaningful and depending on how motivated Penn is could be very good. Otherwise it will be Edgar working in and out to use his speed.
Toney/Couture – You know about this already
Demian Maia vs. Mario Miranda – SHould be very good but if you don’t like ground work it may not be for you.
Kenny Florian vs. Gray Maynard – Hard to say how good this will be. Florian is very talented but Maynard is a very good wrestler so he could try to grind out a win on the ground.
Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis – Should be exciting, but it’s one of those fights that may be annoying to boxing fans as it’ll probably be a stand-up fight with good strikers for MMA but compared to boxers standing up it will look a bit sloppy.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll just say this quickly, as I have the chance
You’ve got a great blog going on over there, it’s really helped me begin to understand MMA, which can definitely be very inaccessible.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks man.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Man
You Americans are really lucky not having to stay up for fight cards.
Tomorrow is going to have to involve a lot of caffeine for me.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
You should hang out with the Bloody Elbow Night Crew when fights go on in Japan
We’re loopy close to the last fight
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I've just finished Turgenev's
First Love, a really good novella. Has any one here read it? If so, what did you think?
Alternatively, I watched A Single Man last night, and it was amazing.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
No?
I’ll just post this instead then :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVMRgXlUtf8
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this any different from what they do in Thailand?
Meaning they sanction fights over there where a guy with 30-50 fights are fighting guys with 5 or less fights and sometimes against guys making their debut. The guys there with lesser fights are often time professional kick boxer just using boxing to make some extra cash. I hear people call them fights a farce so is this any different just in reverse, boxing great coming into a MMA event. For what its worth I find this to be a disrespect to both sports and will not watch but check in here to find out what happens.
I'd say a kickboxer is far more likely to be successful in boxing
than a boxer in MMA or vice versa. But I don’t think it’s really the same. Those guys don’t even train for boxing. It’s just that the two sports happen to be similar enough, and that everything you need to know for boxing you’d already know from kickboxing.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Good points.
I just wondered what others thought. And I agree kick boxers are more likely to succeed in boxing. Example one wasn’t one or both of the Klitscho brothers kick boxers first.
Vitali I think
And most of the Thai guys were converted kickboxers.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Prelim fights are live on Spike TV if anyone’s interested.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
ESPN boxing card also going
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Just in time for Gollem vs. Fudgy
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
First bout - Sanuel Vargas vs. Michael Springer (on ESPN)
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
What's frankly amaizing to me is that as far back as 1968, I was watching Muay Thai fights in
in Bangkok while on R &R. I really got to understand and enjoy it. Now, along comes MMA, and everyone is doing a back flip like it’s the best thing since sliced breag. Give me a break here. MMA has been around for a bit. It just has not been marketd properly. The idea of a James Toinet type fighting in Thailand is bile inducing to purist of true kick boxing.
Pray for Nick Charles
Another way of looking at it
They have taken something which you enjoyed, and allowed many thousands more people to enjoy it too.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7096618177224340827
This is what it is all about for me.
Pray for Nick Charles
Apples and oranges.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
we have a great blog for K1, Muay Thai, etc.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
They do some terrific work.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Muay Thai etc? What is the etc? My point is that what we are experienvcing here is marketing genius.
As far as sumo. not sure what your point was there but I am not in the best of posting moods.
Pray for Nick Charles
I was once a sumo fan
When you’re in the thick of it, it’s not tough to become a fan of just about anything.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Alright. Alright......
I paid up to watch because of the Toney nonsense.
Frankly, White is a genius for suckering us into watching his ‘show’. As a promoter, he’s eating some other’s serious lunch.
I usually watch the shows anyway, often with Brent of BE.com (which is what we’re doing tonight — dual laptop coverage! It’s wicked nerdy in here.)
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's this Scott guy?
Where’s SC?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Changed username. it was overdue.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss SC
I didn’t even know that we could change our usernames, it’s about time I put a second capital in my name.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU can’t. I can. :)
(I have to request it from a tech person. If I could do it, I’d do it for you.)
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, I see
It’s not a big deal, but ta anyway.
I just need to start my own blog now! I wonder if SBnation would accept competitive video gaming as a sport. I’m thinking no…
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a shame
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
jesus
Joe Lauzon just put on a complete beatdown. Like a man against a child in that one.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
He was merciless!
Some mismatch!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Oxygen Destroyed!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Joe Rogan is OK, but his screaming really gets to me sometimes. WOW!!!! WOW!!!!
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Persoanlly
I think he really comes into his own during technical ground fighting, but should maybe leave the play – by – play alone.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy is pretty much Captain Hyperbole a lot of the time. He can also be super biased at times.
Overall though i think he’s great.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein"
- Goonisis
Out of interests
Where do his biases generally lie?
I’m still very new to MMA.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys coming from his school, 10th Planet.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Figures
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
To certain fighters. He’s not as bad as he once was i don’t think but during Randy Couture fights you can usually tell. There are other examples as well (Karo Parsiyan vs GSP), like with people who train at 10th planet as RoyalB mentioned.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein"
- Goonisis
Rogan
talking Toney up all night like the guy is still in his prime.I know Randy is even older and they are just tryiong to get more buys but please,Toney is more than 10 years past his peak.
Yeah
I often wonder if commentators find it hard spouting their company’s BS.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And he's so high above his prime weight too!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah you put the James of ‘93/’94 in with a top 10 170lb MMA fighter and it would be more interesting i think.
Oh yeah
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I really with the Calderon fight had a decent undercard.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
er, "wish" not with
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
That's it. You're cut.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Tough but fair
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, and I is an English Professor in RL too
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Noes!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Beautiful rollover guilloteen
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
My stream must be heavily delayed
As I just got that.
Oh dear.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think people sometimes tend to judge MMA and the UFC specifically on the whole show whereas boxing is usually judged solely on the main event.Yes,there may be some boring fights on the card but there are plenty of boring boxing fights too.
I think even out and out boxing fans who don’t like MMA would enjoy at least one fight on tonights card just a little bit.
Agreed
We can at least laugh at JT’s fat arse wadling around the octogon.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That was cool
I’m starting to get a bit psyched, through my sleep deprived haze.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
I got my 3 hours kip in earlier so i’m not too bad.I’m getting it down to a fine art so i don’t fall asleep. :)
Coffee helps,obviously but i’m onto the vodka now. :)
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to avoid either
One will keep me awake for the next 12 hours, the other will send me to sleep now!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
either = both
I feel the need to watch myself, with an English professor here!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me apologize to the boxing fans for any time that you hear someone refer to James Toney as a heavyweight boxing champion.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Boxing vs MMA references count
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by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
On it's way to 100
I’m going to drop it.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow there he is.
To be honest, i’m pretty surprised he’s actually going through with this. For a cool mil though, i guess i shouldn’t be.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein"
- Goonisis
If you add everything up. Say...3mill
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
It's a hell of a break for him
As he can’t make beans in boxing anymore.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll bet a lot of the stalwart UFC fighters aren’t too happy about how much James is getting.
Will Randy be getting that much even?
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
think BJ does too
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I've just finished reading Randy's book
and tjhough it took a few chapters to get going,i really quite enjoyed.
Suppose he could have gone a bit more in depth on some of his later fights though and he skipped over the TK and V Overeem fights but all in all i thhought it was a good read and i read it in about a week or so.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy will make more than 1 million after the PPV cut he gets. Penn will get around 1 million.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Is MMA or the UFC in particular in danger of going down the dreaded boxing path with fighters demanding more money and getting a bit divaish down the line?
I suppose while Dana’s there that won’t happen.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh screw it, I know I'm going to break down and buy this thing. Might as well do it now
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
This UFC intor thing is a bit
Um, theatrical.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
*intro
Ugh.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Generic rock music at it’s repetitve best.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't help but smirk a little
But I think that might say more about me, than the people it works for.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t buy that shit or anything but for fighting music it’s ok i supposes.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It certainly has a psyching effect
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That's kind of where I'm at...
I hate the gladiator/nu metal intro but it’s got a purpose
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't like "Fingerpaint"?
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Since there’s no thread for this, anybody here watching the segura vs. calderon card?
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Not me
But I approve of your signature.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
trying to decide if I want to buy that or Toney
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
:Yes
McTwins are fightting, pretty even prospect fights, ColBob being ColBob. He earlier decide he believes Cepitillo is innocent and it’s OK that he’s got a license in PR.
I thought he was denied a license in Puerto Rico. He trains Segura, but last I heard Capetillo was banned from being ringside or in Segura’s dressing room.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Marcus/Diaz folks.
Get your jergens and rubrags ready.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
This guy is fighting!?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Image fail...
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
DelAgotta is in Marcus' corner
One of the best Muay Thai instructors in the east coast
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
What kinda nickname is "The Irish Hand Grenade?"
A nationality plus an object of pain is not a nickname. Otherwise, I’d go with:
The English Crowbar
The Japanese Samurai Sword
The American Throwing Knife
The German Brass Knuckles
i LOVE ALL OF THOSE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The French retreat?
Not really an object…
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Ceaser Gracie in Nate Diaz corner.
One of the most progressive BJJ instructors.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
This fight should be fun. Not a technical masterpiece of striking but a lot of punches and some good action.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
The abbreviation TUF
For The Ultimate Fighter, keeps confusing me, as I am in a TF2 team called TUF.
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by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
yes
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes?
I’m glad you agree!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Are they actually brothers?
I thought it was a coincidence.
I don’t much care for Bruce, he seems a bit tacky.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like a guy who keeps trying to sell me insurance and used cars
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
HERE WE GO
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
Classic showboating and tagged routine!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
I just bought my first MMA PPV ever
Not sure what that means exactly, if anything
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Welcome to the flock Brother!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
If nothing else, that you’re curious and open-minded enough to give it a whirl for one of your favorite boxers. Hope you enjoy the show, even as a one-off.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
same
But went to a bar
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so how good are these two guys? Anyone with more knowledge than me about these things.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
They are both good
but nothing too special, they most likely won’t be champions ever.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Diaz is a Gracie student. BJJ Black belt with visious striking
Marcus Davis is a former boxer who has fab MT and great cardio
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
seems like a lot of striking for a Gracie guy
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They all train with Fairtex Muay Thai
I call them the Gracie Mutants
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Decent UFC-level fighters. Not great, not bad.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
does this guy just suck on the ground?
Why would he keep boxing standing up if he just keeps getting tagged by th 1-2 in an injured eye?
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Marcus Davis is supposed to be the striker
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
In his last fight weren't they saying he got surgery to get rid
of the excess scar tissue?
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Think that was Nick Diaz
Nate’s Brother
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I know Nick
I was referring to Davis, and what IRodC said is true I think, he got KO’d on prelims his last fight.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Davis started in boxing. Had about 20 fights in the Boston area. Club fights. That’s his base.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Obstinance?
Pride?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I didnt know Ben Bernake was a doctor on his spare time
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
lol
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
both guys seem to be wearing out
I take it this is an abnormally fast pace?
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by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Guys like to blow loads in the first and second rounds.
Then try to wing it third.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I wouldn’t say abnormally fast, but it’s a good pace and they’re both losing blood of course.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Lot more straight up striking this fight. The takedowns sometimes become a chance to take a break, really.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Nate's brother Nick
is a much better version of him. He fights in Strikeforce, one of the most entertaining fighters to watch. But both brothers are supposed to have Stamina for days, they both do triathlons regularly.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Davis' eye is fuuuucked uuup
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
my girlfriend says their kicks look "anemic"
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
personally, I have no idea
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
cos girls know all about fighting,right. :)
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
she is calling for more violence
this is her first time watching MMA at all, and I think she is enjoying it more than me!
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
some fights (and fighters) are better than others.
Davis is knocking on a bit now.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well...MMA does have a wide female fanbase
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
She sounds awesome
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
well, anemic is a bit much i think
but neither guy is known for the power in their legs.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein"
- Goonisis
Hell yes
I was on my feet for all of that!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Davis' best days are past him
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
well, he's 37
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
he had a pretty good fight with Hardy
just a couple of fights ago. He’s not like Nogueira, who at 33, and it hurts me to say, but should he lose another, he should consider retiring.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Nog is one of my two all-time favorite MMA fighters. Him and Wanderlei. But I agree — Nog should consider hanging it up.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that time is not far away for Wandy too.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Entertaining blowout
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Diaz by Guioteen
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
SHOGUN!
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
GUN SHOW!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
the interviewer is like a cross between
Billy Mays and Gus Johnson
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Joe Rogan
From NewsRadio!
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No, this is the Joe Rogan from Fear Factor.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
NewsRadio!
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So one more fight, then Toney / Couture, then the main event?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I'm not sure
Tow more, I think.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Two more then Toney-Couture if Toney-Couture goes before the main.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Two more fights
Maia/Miranda and Maynard/Florian
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Kenflo
via omaplata, because it sounds cool.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Locoplata
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Haha
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I like these random shots of drunk men shouting at cameras
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
only because there's no hot Polish women
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Always a shame
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Michigan St Reprezent!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I never realised that Americans say Guillotine
In a different way to us Brits. We would say it as gil- O, rather than Gee – O.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
Not that I'm exactly a Brit
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
they pronounce it properly!
We English don’t even talk very good English!
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
But they spell centre as center, dangerous maniacs.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the British hate the French so much
That they intentionally mispronounce French words.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I could believe it
Damn cheese eating surrender monkeys!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
some Yanks say it incorrectly too
it can go either way here
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody watching the Calderon-Segura card?
if so can I get an update?
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Can’t even find a means of stealing, um, I mean watching, it online. This one did not capture the global imagination.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
so is no one ordering?
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Still on Underdard Prospect Fights
McJoe Arroyo WUD v Sigfredo Medina; Jose Gonzales WTKO6 vs Hector Marengo; McWilliams
Arroyo about to W6 right now.
Why is this guy walking into
What sounds like bagpipes?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
Dropkicks version of the BC fight song
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
From Boston. In Boston. Dropkick Murphys (major Boston band) doing their version of the Boston College fight song. Called “For Boston.” Boston.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah
That’s pretty cool actually.
I’m really fed up with bagpipes, though, as I hear them every day.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
UFC ring girls seem hotter, and there are two--me likee
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
You mean generic tart, generic tart, and minority generic tart?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, yes I do
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
^^
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
lots of feints
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
There's a llot of feeling in important fights
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
short guy seens a bit confused fighting a southpaw
Taller guy just seems like a more defensive fighter. Obviously could be very wronmg tho.
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by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 10:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BTW, Florians twin brother on the megaphone
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too bad Boston is more North than South
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Jimmy plays anywhere
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny
Seems very intelliegent with his strinking, in my opinion.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
10-9 Maynard
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
What's worth more
The take down? Or a control of the striking, but with little damage done?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
Takedowns are always favoured more
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
takedowns and ring position
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Leg kicks
Seem to be sort of the body shots of MMA.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
Kenny
doesn’t usually wear the cycling shorts does he?
Is that so Maynard finds it harder to grab him for the takedown or what?
Shorts don't really matter
It’s more sweat that make it had for TDs and submissions
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I agree
but I can’t see anything Gray does that won’t allow Penn to slaughter him. He’s a better wrestler than Edgar but nowhere near as quick, and his striking is very sloppy. Penn will do what he did to Sanchez on Gray.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
20-18 Maynard
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
This is what I feared if Maynard were to win
a boring UD. Jon Fitch should be proud.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
I didn't really find that boring
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s pretty dull
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to me
I guess I’m weird.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
i wasn’t going to mention it but now you say…………………………………… :)
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
At least
Maynard has decent stand up though,unlike the dreaded Fitch.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That's good
cause MMA has alot more to offer than what is being shown now. The wrestlers are very much like Mayweather, the best example imo, is the post-Serra GSP, not very exciting, but they get the job done.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Kenflo
Got dominated there.
He seemed to waste a few opportunities on the feet.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Kenny has to get the win now
Grey is dominating the judges cards
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Florian is more interesting to watch,
but he is getting his ass kicked.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Anyone want to predict how long the Toney / Couture fight will go? Winner gets a cookie.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
What kind of Cookie?
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
an honorary internet cookie :(
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
boxing glove shaped?
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
sure
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Internet cookie?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
1:12
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
0:12 – Toney right hook KO on a weak chinned Couture.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
i'm going with 50 seconds
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 28, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
2 : 14
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy
has not looked too great lately and i just don’t know what will happen in this one.
Would not supride me if Toney caught him.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
2:12
Couture gets blinded by the blubber for 2 minutes before he shoots for a takedown.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Would you like to do a post-fight recap of that by chance? I don’t care if you don’t, but if you’re watching and would like to throw together a recap of the bout, I’d be happy to post it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if you want to, just send something to my email. it’s in my profile (just click on my name) and at the bottom of the site, too. I really appreciate it!
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really hoping Calderon can win this one
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
pulling for Segura
For the sake of the picks game
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can understand that
Calderon has looked more human lately than ever before, especially against Rodel Mayol
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Atempted Omaplata
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I almost accidentally called it
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Maynard
is a big 155lber.Much bigger than K Flo.
Not that i’m sayin gthat was the reason he won.
He just is.
30-24 Maynard
Total domination.
MSU! MSU! MSU!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
take that Spartans crap somewhere else
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's no say anything bad about Spartans now
This is blasphemy!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say nothing bad about actual Spartans; they are hardcore. People who went to MSU, or USC for that matter, are fair game:)
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah
I see. Looks like something went right ove rmy head!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This. Is. Sparta!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Haters Gonna Hate!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I’ll wait until they stop beating Michigan in football to really go at it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
HATER!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
how do you get to East Lansing from Ann Arbor?
North till you smell it, west till you step in it.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So.Damn.Tired
I clearly suck at lack of sleep.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
Y’know what always goes well with lack of sleep? Liquor.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't drink
Stuff to do tomorrow.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I had some tomato juice
Does that count?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
with pepper
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
And a nice hit of tabasco
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
There you go
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Drink A Red Bull and Slap yourself!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Red Bull?
I won’t sleep till 10 if I do that!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
WARNING!! Groundwork Ahead!
Anyone who can’t dig the subs, turn your head immediately.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
time for a smoke?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hell no.
Maia is awesome
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Tell that to Anderson Silva
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems likely
This may be epic, with many sub attempts, rather than guys lying on top of each other for several minutes at a time.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Maia is gonna get KO'd
I’m picking the upset here
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Good sig
By the way.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
dumb question
Are there counts in UFC? I suspect not, but asking anyway.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No.
Let me be clear on this, I do not endorse this thread
by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
But the ref can stand them up if there is no action.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but thats not really a count
Let me be clear on this, I do not endorse this thread
by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
I didn’t say it was.
I was just letting him know another part of the rules.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
you suspected correctly
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Nope. If you're not intellegently diffending yourself during 5+ good strikes, the ref calls the fight over
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
also, i take it headbutts arent legal?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You are correct
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
we are a long way removed from the "there are no rules!" UFC
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
But we clearly aren’t away from "freak matchups! UFC, or many of us wouldn’t be here now.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
despite Dana's attacks at SF and Dream for sanctioning Sapp, Choi and Walker
you are correct, I guess Dana is more like a two-faced boxing promoter than he thinks
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
i knew eye gouges, nut shots and ground elbows are illegal
Just wasn’t sure about butts.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
12-6 Elbows are legal
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Wha?
Who’s right?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The ABC (I think) ruled 12-6 legal at the last meet up
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Only 12-6 elbows are ILLEGAL. The rest are legal
Let me be clear on this, I do not endorse this thread
by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
No knees on ground
Let me be clear on this, I do not endorse this thread
by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
To the head
Body is fair game
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
10-9 Maia.
He had more takedowns and was landing more.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
That was great
Mario’s got nothing right now.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions
I could swear i just saw Bobby Heenan,the old pro wrestling manager at ringside.
Is it true he’s trying to recruit Brock Lesnar into his stable?
I met him a few years back at a small show in northwest Indiana. It was after he went through throat cancer, but he was still as quick witted as ever.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I read his book recently which i found interesting.I used to be a big wrestling fan as a youngster.
I watch the odd dvd of the classics still.
Unbeatable when Gorilla and Jesse or Bobby were the commentary team.
:D
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
atempted crossarm or Triangle
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
this guy seems content to win rounds
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's almost tapped him twice
But he just can’t finish for some reason
Let me be clear on this, I do not endorse this thread
by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
20-18 Maia
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I'm reading the bulletin's coverage
Calderon is in major trouble..
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Had to happen one day
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Segura!
I need the KO for the BB comp!
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I read this is an incredible fight!
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
20--18 Maia
Let me be clear on this, I do not endorse this thread
by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
That was almost a beautiful sub
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
Atemptted choke
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Are they going to randomly shoot to show RJJr. in the crowd?
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if there are many boxers there to watch.Probaby not in this case!
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maia's tired.
He’s gonna choke again
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
And we all missed it
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
29-28 Maia
Really poor performance by Maia.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
well that fight was not my cup of tea
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Eh. It's okay PPV so far
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I said not one of the better ones,which it isnt.
I’m thinking as in attracting boxing fans to MMA.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Micky Ward at UFC!
And Glen Davis of the Celtics just uh…made a … fellatio motion?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Not much else that could be
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"trademark power punches?"
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
And Here We Go!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Such enthusiasm
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want Joe Rogan's opinion on James Toney, or anything boxing-related, thanks.
I gather Bert Sugar wasn’t going to come in to comment tonight?:)
He's actually a huge boxing fan
And really very clued up, this is more him earning his pay cheque.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I take it back. He does seem to know his shit, listening from hereon. He’s also not really the one talking up Toney’s power, which is silly talk.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Calderon’s reign was something, but it should have ended a fight or two ago anyway. Well done, Giovanni.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
was he out?
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
I don't recognize anyone in Toney's corner
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Bunch of charlatons
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
james toney, pimping the k-mart
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Some of his fanboys on BE
Were actually saying how in shape be looks!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Which...
….was the most insane thing I heard all week.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the most insane thing I heard all
week.year
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Toney is about to KO now glass chinned Couture
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Not likely
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
one can dream, can't he?
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Sure :D
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
11 time champ my ass.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Are you kidding me?
IBA Heavyweight champion, EBU Light heavyweight…!
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
“He’s made a career knocking out men with 10 oz gloves on” – No he hasn’t.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
He's being hyped
As far as coach Singletary and the 49ers – Singletary, that dude is legit. He’s legit on all levels. He’s doing what he feels is right.
---Former 49er running back Glen Coffee
It's inevitable
“THAT GUY IS MY HERO”!!!!!!!!
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
I don’t think there’s any legitimate hype aside from crazy people, to be honest.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Calling his a GOAT
Is a bit of a stretch!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
Calling Toney one of the greatest boxers OF ALL TIME is a stretch too.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wait you said the same
Misread
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hehe
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The Hunt is On!
Uncle Teddy is providing War Music
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Or it was just a crap film
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah. It was an entertainingly crap film. Not all crap is crap.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true
But this crap, was crap. I’m pretentious about crap ^^
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the enjoyment of the Times Square crowd I saw it with was infectious.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Whereas
I watched it in my dark room, alone.
Could be onto something here.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Segura KO’s Calderon in the 8th. Wow… never thought i’d be writing that.
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
not surprised
35 is ancient for someone his size, and he’d been showing chinks in the armor. I maintain that Calderon three or four years ago shuts him out, but I figures Segura would win this.
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by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This may just be Couture beating on an exhausted JT
In a clinch for 3 rounds.
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by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
Toney would probably tap at some point if it got that awful. Dude has to save himself for the Klitschko sisters.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Or grind it on the ground
I don’t see Randy pulling off a Brazilian Execution
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
But didn't you just hear what Mike Goldberg said?
Toney PREFERS fighting in a clinch, and THINKS he will have success in the clinch. Mike Goldberg said it, it’s gotta be true!
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
everything aside
It is damn weird to see James Toney in the UFC.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Yeah
Talk about a strange image!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's be honest
JT’s going to get slaughtered, bet the farm.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
I bet several farms I don’t even own on that.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Couture really does look like an old man at this point. All due respect, but dude’s 47 and looks it. Like an amazingly conditioned 47 year old, of course, but old.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Not to mention he got knocked down three times by Vera and twice by Nog who has 3 career KO's
His chin has deteorioated drastically
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
This is really weird
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 28, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
Mario "Finish Him" Yamazaki reffing!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
The only thing which can save Toney now is a surprise jump in from
YYYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
100% chance of hilarity.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
He fell over!
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by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
That was hilarious!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
James. Just scoot out the back.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
omg, look at him
he’s just sitting there. This is sad.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein"
- Goonisis
This is almost a little sad
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah
Miserable.
I feel bad for lookign foward to that.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
How hasn't randy tapped him?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Me too, but it saddened me more than I expected.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was Toney’s helpless facial expressions. He was completely overwhelmed.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It was that, and the thought that Toney would at least get one stand-up strike in before being put on his ass. We were denied that too. That was like playing a video game against someone who didn’t know the controls or rules.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Toney-Couture R1
Toney saunters to the center of the cage. He’s just staying and waiting for Couture to move. And James trips him down with a weak shoot immediately. Couture mounted and throwing shots. Toney hugs him up from the bottom. Toney has no shot at this point. Couture just went right at him with a half-assed shot and Toney had nothing to offer.
Toney throwing shots to the ribs. Couture smothering him. Couture nails him with a couple more shots. Toney is cut a little on the forehead and looks totally lost. Couture grabs a choke. Toney could tap any time. Now Couture lets go and keeps pounding on him. Toney looks helpless. This is pathetic.
And that’s it. Toney taps out. Not even a minor competition.
Randy Couture SUB-1
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Decent time to retire from all fighting sports, now. Hope he still has an entertaining post-fight quip or two.
by El Destruyo on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Want to hear soemthing scary?
He has a two fight contract here.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll get cut
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
I bloody well hope so
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
How
about a rematch in the boxing ring?
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
What would that prove? Couture has never said he can box.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It would prove that neither sport is better and that you can’t just jump from one to the other.
I know what you mean though.Toney asked for it.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I am totally sure if you ask Randy Couture how he would do in boxing against James Toney, he’d tell you he’d get his ass kicked.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure he would.I just don’t want to hear no MMA beats boxing talk and i know none of the MMA guys on here would say that.
Street fight-I’ve said it before,i pick the MMA guy of similar ability.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 29, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be the exact opposite.
Randy would look clueless too
Wait i said that wrong...
I think….I just mean Randy would look as bad in the boxing ring as toney in the octagon.
yep
He’d get smoked. And he knows that.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
well that pretty much went like i thought it would
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by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2010 11:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That was extremely sad
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Not too sad
Given the 1 mil JT’s getting.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT reply actions
Haha. They just gave Couture a black belt for submitting James Toney.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
He earned his Catch Belt
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Yeah
I daresay he earned it previously.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Yeah,like they couldn’t have picked a worse time to award it.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 28, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe he took so long to tap
Pride, it hurts.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions
What's more sad is advertising it as UFC vs Boxing not MMA vs Boxing
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Yup
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Does seem to make the UFC a bit of a joke though and i hope they don’t make a habit of this knid of thing.
Dana White always seemed to be against that kind of thing...
At least I always thought he was
I don't think this'll happen again
Unless a Mayweather type wants to give it ago. No promoter could pass up THAT kind of money.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
“He caught me stupid.” — James Toney
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
That was sadder then I expected. What a farce, at least the Calderon segura fight was good.
by boxzilla on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
so lets see randy cross over and box james toney
.
by teabaggingexper on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
Why?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
for the same reason james crossed over
.
by teabaggingexper on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
no reason at all, just to prove you cant beat someone at their own game
.
by teabaggingexper on Aug 28, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The difference is Randy Couture can still make money at his own game.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 29, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Lots of it.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i am not speaking in terms of economics
i am saying lets see how randy does at what James does well, just like we saw how well James did at what randy did well
.
by teabaggingexper on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
And we're saying why
Becuase there’s no reaosn for that fight to happen, just like there was no reason for this one.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I already know how he does is all. But I know what you mean.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 29, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't be silly
James crossed over for the money, nothing else.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 28, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
Couture admitted he sucked at boxing.
Why play Gosseen’s game
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
i just find it funny that the UFC is playing this like Boxing vs. MMA
this was a Boxer trying to fight a MMA legend, I would have loved to seen Anderson Silva box RJJ that would have been equally has bad as this fight
.
by teabaggingexper on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s silly that anyone will think this proves MMA is “better” than boxing. They’re different. Albert Pujols probably sucks at tennis, too.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesus, Tom Brady looks like he’s in Maroon 5.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Would anyone be shocked
if Toney vs Vitali Klitschko happens after the Briggs fight?
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Yes
Very shocked.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
really
he’s just as big a name as Briggs is at this point
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Really
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Very. Especially since Vitali-Adamek is supposed to be next.
by El Destruyo on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking David Haye-James Toney.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh god
You may be right.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope so!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The proportions are right. I’d more like to see Arreola-Toney, since I don’t think Toney is title-worthy right now, much as I love him until about the Holyfield fight. The two steroids violations and the sloth have taken me out of his corner, though.
by El Destruyo on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
That fight is TOOO fat
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s why I like it. I think Lewis-Grant was billed as “Too Big,” so why not “Too Fat?”
by El Destruyo on Aug 29, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
for those who follow MMA, is the next fight supposed to be good?
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Yes. Very.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
should i stick around for the main event?
Or will it probably mostly be ground game?
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by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Penn doesn
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Doesnt get taken down. Ever.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
well, he did get taken down twice last time
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Popped right back up.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Yes, but he can be taken down, GSP did it and at 155, Edgar did it too
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
GSP is 25 pounds heavier.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
It'll be striking with some takedown
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
it should be a stand up fight mostly
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
I should go to sleep
But I won’t!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
Okay, what about
James Toney vs Kimbo Slice in a boxing ring?
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Slice telegraphs his punches and has no discernible defense. He’d get picked apart like yesterday’s leftovers.
by El Destruyo on Aug 29, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Zing!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
kimbo slice would struggle against Tony Grano, much less Toney
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by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 12:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Greg from Bloody Elbow here
BJ has some great boxing for an MMA practitioner, if he shows up today hopefully you can tell newbs like me what you think of his performance :D
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
In place of Randy vs Toney in a ring....
MMA sacrifices Kimbo to RJJ. Kimbo is kind of like jesus in this one.
He will die for Coutures sins.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Not like Jesus so much as Lazarus; you’d be resurrecting him just to let him die again. Yikes.
by El Destruyo on Aug 29, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
Hey man at least you guys got someone who actually had a good career in boxing!
Hey now
Gary Shaw said Kimbo could be a world champion!
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Bob and Weave like Tyson!!
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Gary Shaw
Is the epitome of asshole.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Give us GSP vs Ward, or something like that!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrong weights?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
no, Gsp is 170 and ward is 168, as close as it gets
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Sweet
Make it happen.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t follow MMA
BJ Penn is one of those guys with all the natural talent, that dont get motivated to work hard. But when he does there is noone better.
Edgar is the guy who was said he was too little for the division.
It’s a good fight
BJ Penn is one of those guys with all the natural talent, that dont get motivated to work hard.
I always felt that way about Zab Judah….
I think it's like that
But with even more talent.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
By the way...
IN YOUR FACE BOXING!
…just kidding. That was kind of a crazy waste of time.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 AM EDT reply actions
like watching matt hughes fight royce gracie.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
We’re all agreed on that, but maybe the main event is the fight I was meant to be suckered into seeing.
by El Destruyo on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that with only 13 fights, he is already a champion.
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
That's no small number
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by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
omg omg
BJ is so weird
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 AM EDT reply actions
Freestyle fighter?
Does he bust crazy rhymes off the dome WHILE making up his own fighting technique? If so, I’m rooting for Edgar.
I'm coming up on 24 hours of being awake
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by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
Awesome!
Now I’ll challenge RJJ to an MMA match.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
You Earn BE Night Crew Cred!!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Penn RNC, Round 3, I think
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
inc triangle....
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
On their backs already
Poor Brickhaus.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:13 AM EDT reply actions
BJ has Spider guard. Neutralizing the mount
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Penn down quick, but BJ's bjj is way better than Edgar
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
edgar keeps landing that counter left hook
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions
Ceil Peoples is judging.
Expect loopy judging!
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
oh no
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ has got to finish this if he wants the title back
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
It seems Edgar is imposing his style… or, so it seems to me…
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Edgar 10-9
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 12:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Edgar 10-9
You’ll pick tis up soon enough Brick
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Yeah
But no KD points.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
!0-8 is plenty
For some reason, 0 is sacreledge
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
10-9 The Situation. Edgar may take this again.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions
"I rested harder for this fight too." - BJ Penn
You sure did!
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
lovin BJ's jab
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I actually think Edgar has the better boxing stance at this point…
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Agreed
BJ is rather flat footed.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Who is favored?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Bookies favour Edgar
Experts seem to pick BJ mostly
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh
I must have misread the odds.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Is this BJ guy shot?
Or did he spend most of camp eating spam?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
He one of those guys who are so good, they're easily bored
And it effect performance.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Edgar looks like a freaking hummingbird
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Edgar 20-18
Penn seems lethargic. I did think he landed the better strikes overall though.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 12:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If BJ was throwing out a good stiff jab
Then the way he is moving would be far more effective.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
they should wear some kind of footwear… even if it is those bruce lee type shoes
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Pumas?
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ suffers from what a lot of fighters suffer from....
inability to tailor a gameplan to an opponent. He does several things better than anyone, but when he needs to adjust the game, he flat out refuses. Edgar has no fear of a takedown and can let his hands fly, while BJ has to worry about a quick takedown the entire fight.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions
This is reminding me, to transmogify this to boxing, to Pavlik-Martinez. Penn’s obviously the stronger man, but if he can’t get off, so what?
Quite a good comparison
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Edgar has really great subtle head movement
Reninds me of Glen Johnson
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 12:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can see that
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 29, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Roach
Did say that BJ has the best boxing in MMA.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. He's naturally a Featherweight
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Frankie is getting hit more in this fight than the last, at least.
and with those baby gloves, thats alway s a concern. BJ’s chin is pretty tested, jury is still out on frankies but it appears pretty good.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
based on the descriptions here and this performance
Maybe Penn is like a Hawaiian we know in boxing – Brian Viloria
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 12:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
underacheiver, makes exciting fights?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 29, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
In context he is an overachiever since he is supposed to be the greatest lightweight fighter of all time
No
he’s much more than that.
He’s on eof the great MMA fighters.
Up there with the best and unbeaten at this weight for 8 years!
by Matt Mosley on Aug 29, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
def more accomplished than Viloria obviously, but I don't think that is what Brick meant
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 29, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
and besides, we don't know what we are talkign about anyway ;)
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 29, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ
has had a great career whatever happens and anyone who hasn’t seen him at his best should give it the old youtube.
Penn looks physically weak
and lacking in velocity and explosiveness. Really surprising.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I was thinking the same thing
They didn’t give him shit.
Perhaps
He knows what to do, and all he needs is motivation.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Why hasn't BJ gone for a takedown?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
3 rounds too late
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Penn is the greatest lightweight of all time, and one of two fighters to have held titles in two different weight classes
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Still
Could be described as an underachiever?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He's been criticized for his training his entire career.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Right. But even at that point, never been in the best shape.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Sure, when he isn't hungry
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Thing is
BJ Penn is not really motivated, which is frustrating for his fans, like myself. Penn, according to celebritynetworth is worth at around $40 Million. It’s hard for someone to stay motivated when you are financially taken care of for generations to come, like he is. It’s not like the $250,000 is THAT important to him, that he can’t take $150,000, is what I’m trying to say.
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Parents are LOOOOOAAAADED.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
two things to me
1. Frankie Edgar is very good.
2. BJ Penn has gone past his peak for sure.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Edgar
is good,but maynard has already beat him.
REMATCH!…………………..and a changing of the guard.
by Matt Mosley on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Edgar 40-36
Penn won the first couple minutes, but it was all downhill once he slipped. Penn needs a stoppage imo.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 12:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
keep in mind....
Frankie has to fight him again.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
And will lose again.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Edgar wins
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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
That sweep was awesome
In so many ways.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions
BJ Penn's corner, talking to Frank Bruno between rounds against Mike Tyson:
“Fuck that power, speed, and head movement, man, go after that little cocksucker!”
woof
boy is good.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
I am flabbergasted
"Dawson was NOT a hype job. Dude schooled Adamek, beat Tarver twice (neither competitive), beat Johnson twice (once close, once a wipeout) and even beat Harding when Harding was still good. That is not hype. Those are results. I love how people see a guy lose once and all of a sudden nothing they ever did means anything. You are dead wrong."
- Dan Rafael
Cecil peoples scores the bout 49-46
for BJ penn.
OCTAGON CONTROL!!!
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Aug 29, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions
Good night, all.
Pretty decent night of fighting, and it was interesting, personally, to watch an MMA card with that many decisions; I got a chance to actually watch this sport for an extended period. It was entertaining, mainly. Peace.
Toms River!
Night
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Ouch!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
I still prefer boxing, but this fight was entertaining.
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
by Apprentice on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't get it
Why some people can’t consider this an option.
You can like both, but prefer one. I’m an MMA fan but I don’t go walking around telling people how terrible Boxing is as a sport, it has plenty of enjoyable merits as does MMA.
To each his own I suppose
by Patrick John McGreevy on Aug 29, 2010 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions
In my experience
Boxing fans of the calibre of generally found on this blog, usually have nothing bad to say about MMA; either enjoying it themsleves, or treating it with indifference.
Also, I have found MMA fans to be fonder of insulting boxing, than boxing fans are of insulting MMA.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Both are guilty of talking shit
But Badlefthook, and Bloody Elbow seem to have a much better quality of writers when it comes to being fair to both sports. Some websites are just ridiculous though
by Patrick John McGreevy on Aug 29, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
Night all.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
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