$1.1 Million: Camps for Bradley and Alexander Continue to Talk
by Scott Christ on Aug 28, 2010 6:08 PM EDT
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A potential January 29 fight between Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander is still in the works. Rick Reeno of BoxingScene.com reports that Timothy Bradley has been offered $1.1 million by promoter Gary Shaw, but it may not be enough. Shaw has received no response from Bradley, and Alexander has not received an offer from Don King.
The hang-up on the $1.1 million thing is because Amir Khan made at least that much for a fight earlier this year with Paul Malignaggi. What neither side is mentioning is that Khan made that much because Golden Boy Promotions gave him a huge guarantee per fight to help convince him to leave Frank Warren.
No matter what the money is, Bradley and Alexander would each be making career-high paydays, unless something was gummed up before this. Bradley has had one fight on HBO, draws small crowds in California, and despite being regarded by most as the best 140-pounder in the world, is still a relative unknown. Alexander does well in his hometown, but we're talking about 10,000 fans without huge ticket prices, so it's not like he's pulled in massive live gates or anything. He's done relatively, well, but not amazingly well.
From the outside looking in, this doesn't seem like everything's going swimmingly. Everyone in boxing is looking to max their money, but we're at a point where no-draw fighters like Alfredo Angulo are turning down $750,000 and a shot at the middleweight champion of the world. Hopefully, this doesn't go in that direction, because I think fans are going to see through that, and in a bad economy where boxing is not the hottest ticket past Pacquiao and Mayweather, anyone that turns down $1 million-plus is likely to lose some standing with fans. Nobody has yet in this case, and hopefully nobody will.
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Bradley is not a draw and should be happy with that figure.50/50 would be the fairest deal though,imo.
What Khan is earning has nothing to do with these guys.He has a pretty big UK following for a start and has been highly touted by the likes of Dan Rafael for a few years now in the states and had the Malignaggi fight to introduce him to more American’s.
If Bradley was fighting Khan fair enough but i just don’t see how his earnings are relevant to this fight.
Not suprised
to see Kevin Cunningham overrating the importance of this fight.Yes it’s an excellent bout between two of the top 3 140lbers but “this is the most anticipated foght outside Pac v Floyd” is a pretty ridiculous statement.
They are both still learning as fighters and Devon didn’t look too great against someone he was supposed to beat last time out.
Most of the casual fans and certainly the general public have likely never heard of either of these guys.
Odd.
The Angulo situation has been largely viewed as either a duck or a miscommunication (they thought $750K wasn’t a final offer), neither of which makes sense because Angulo already got his 0 broken, and should probably be getting all he can, since actual boxers are going to have their way with him for days to come.
With the Bradley-Alexander situation, I at least understand the jealousy, if not the good it will do either fighter to not strike now. Alas, Golden Boy, your absurd deal hurts more than yourselves.
Seven figures for this fight seems like a good deal, though I guess it depends in part what HBO is willing to pay to broadcast it
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
What was Reagan's famous line?
“here we go again!”
"There he goes again."
Was the line.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Thanks MM.
Same difference…in this case. For crying out loud, this is one fight that really does have to happen. IMO, more than Manny v Floyd. The latter is between two guys who many will argue come from two different weight classes, Manny coming up….Floyd simply Man-ing up. Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley have there names joined for a reason. They are two of the best young guns at their natural weight. Today.
So for my money this is a fight that both guys….and their respective teams…just need to make. If either of them want to ever find out what kind of money they are potentially capable of making, they’ll make the short term investment of meeting in the ring now.
Together, they are worth something significant. Alone, they are worth far less.
Agree that Bradley should certainly take this.
Hopefully he’s just holding out for the best deal possible, which he should. The only way Bradley should reject this fight is if, behind the scenes, there’s still a chance of making a Khan fight, which would make more money (and probably more status). I doubt that that is the case though, so what I’m saying is that Bradley needs to make this deal.
i still think Alexander gives Bradley significant problems
And that it’s close to a 50/50 fight. Bradley isn’t exactly an accurate counterpuncher like Kotelnik, and he didn’t look super comfortable against the only other southpaw he’s faced.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 29, 2010 3:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Me, too--
Bradley doesn’t hit very hard, his back and hips don’t go into his punches—if Devon “Chin of Stone” Alexander gets to him, he’ll cream him, and he has the chin to stay in there no matter what’s coming at him till he does.
Devon "Chin of Stone" Alexander
No offense, but what is this based on?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 30, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Alexander Took
some heavy hits to the head. He took a lot of them, and he didn’t even look fazed. I don’t mean the jabs that made his face swell, because I think that’s all they did, I’m thinking power punches. I thought when Alexander hit Kotelnik, he hit him hard, but Kotelnik was good, and his punches weren’t light, and there were a lot of them.
Kotelnik isn’t near enough of a puncher for me to call someone “Chin of Stone” based on surviving his attack.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Aug 30, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
hi
this is the problem i have with boxing, overhype it like mad and delivers nothing, leaving fans disappointed like sh%%..
first of all it isnt anywhere near pacquiao mayweather…that is between two real atgs been on the business for 16 years and one for sure, pacquiao might end up as a top ten atg, when its all said and done and mayweather could do same if he man up and fight few sergios and paul williams…
secondly, amir khan is an olimpic hero ffor his country and draws like full arenas regardless of where he fight in britain or europe in that case and he does same in usa, he is a cross over star and a future star in making..with skills, looks and some world class vulnerabilities which will make it even more intresting to watch him, he is like the most skilled kid u can get with a suspect chin.
so i dont understand why would bradley or alexander demand same money as amir, bradley cant fill a 5000 arena in his hometown. come on! be real..its true amir has so many haters, but hey all superstar materials always had too many haters, ex: pacquiao, mayweather, dela hoya all had haters all over them..they are still draws..
and about khan midana, hype is all good but i see khan outboxing and might even knocking out midana in later rounds, i dont see no skill in midana., yeah he can bang, he aint no pacquiao..
Dolla$$ and $ense
I don’t get it? Both guys will make more than they ever have and the winner will make more down the line or in the next fight with Khan (which seems to be the next fight for the winner). So why they are looking a gift horse in the mouth, I dont know?
They need to take the emotions out of the negotiations and realize the state of boxing, and understand that for “any” fighter to get a 7 figure payday, is a blessing. Not to mention that I dont think this fight will generate that kind of gate. Nor will HBO make a ton of money from broadcasting it? So why these guys are grand standing for a big pay day when the fight is not that big a deal outside of die hards, like people on this site (and honestly I will TIVO the fight at best).
Outside of St. Louis & Palm Springs nobody knows these guys. MMA (UFC) guys are fighting only the best and they are lucky to gross more than 200k a year. Not to mention UFC is making huge profits on most if not all of its cards.
Boxing is in a bubble state (at least in the US) that will pop. HBO and Golden Boy keep over paying for mid level fights/ fighters. And drive the market up now you have guys thinking they are worth more than they really are.
PS- PBF was on the fringe of boxing until like his 38th fight (against Oscar) and all of his 7 figure paydays were on PPV. If you want a mil you got generate a mil, and PPV is the only way to do it and both guys know this is not a PPV event so they need to just take the money and fight.
UFC is a brand name.
The genius of what they’ve done thus far is that although UFC makes names, their own name is still bigger than any other, which is why only a very select few fighters can make more money on their own.
Boxing has belts, but organizations have never been branding devices; the closest thing to this is what Top Rank and Golden Boy do in keeping their business in-house, which doesn’t make Joshua Clottey a name, but does give him the opportunity to make a mil fighting (or blocking, anyway) Pacquiao.
The profit ceiling is still much higher in boxing, therefore, because boxing fans buy Mayweather v. Mosley; MMA fans buy UFC (number here), or watch whatever Strikeforce card is on Showtime. The fighters aren’t really the thing, the fighting is, and the more disposable the fighters, the more profitable for the organization.
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