Ted Sares: When Spines Tingled
by Bad Left Hook on Aug 31, 2010 7:34 AM EDT
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Ted Sares is back at Bad Left Hook this morning with his latest feature. Enjoy.
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"The Klitschkos, who enjoy Jordan-like fame in much of northern Europe, fill stadiums and arenas every time they fight in Germany. In the US, however, the fact that they crush all of their opponents and every boxing stereotype just elicits a yawn. It is hard to figure. After all, we have always had a fascination with the big guys. It is as though we hold their intelligence, education, and measured aggression against them."
--Gordon Marino
"Growing up, I loved Danny ‘Little Red' Lopez. I loved the way he fought and I loved the way he looked with that tall and rangy frame and that eternal glint in his eye of the natural born hunter. The moustache that later accompanied the famous shock of bushy red hair would perfectly complement the appearance of an old-style gunfighter out of time, blazing a trail with flesh and bone instead of pig iron."
--Mike Casey
Gatti and Valero
A while back I would watch fights and fighters that triggered chills running down my spine-a tingling sensation if you will. Over the years, there were many fighters who did this for me.
Recently, when the late Arturo Gatti walked down the aisle for his fights in Atlantic City wearing his Old School white hood, the crowd would be up and roaring. It was reminiscent of another time for me. But the Gatti coming down the ramp was pretty darn thrilling in its own right. Some might call it hero worship; I call it appreciation for what we knew he would deliver once the bell rang.
Like Mando Ramos, Mike Tyson, Gatti, and Lucien Bute, the late Edwin Valero could rev up things as he came down the aisle and looking almost like an apparition, his unblinking eyes focused like lasers. Spines tingled because they knew they would soon witness a fighter whose boxing style seemed to be driven by uncontrollable urges. Something special was about to happen. The feeling was palpable.
As Diego Morilla stated in a moving piece for ESPN Deportes:
"Valero couldn't settle for simply defeating his opponents. He had to overpower them, overwhelm them, attack them with blazing combinations loaded with explosive power from all angles, to the point of neglecting his own defense (arms low, mouth open, eyes popping out of their sockets, high-pitched screams with every punch). The fury in his expressions was the fuel for his successes -- but was also at the heart of his failures, including his tragic demise."
But whatever drove him, the Venezuelan fans loved him and others were coming aboard the band wagon rapidly before he imploded.
Hearns and Benn
Tommy Hearns did his walk-in a deadpanned and focused manner and the chills that it produced reflected something else. Maybe it was Tommy's aura of mystique or maybe it was the fear he seemed to implant in his opponents before the fight. Whatever it was, Tommy was a unique kind of killing machine and the fans reveled in it. Tyson and Marvelous Marvin Hagler also produced this somewhat more foreboding impact.
Not unlike Hearns in term of perceived ferocity, Nigel Benn probably made more Brit spines tingle than any other boxer, though Frank Bruno's walk-ins were indeed special. When you think of Benn, you think of words like fury, rage, and ferocity. These were his trademarks in the ring and they provided uncommon excitement and entertainment for fight fans. And when the bell rang, you better not blink. Unfortunately, Benn's career defining fight ended with tragic results and detracts from his entire body of work. As one writer stated, "One man's finest hour was the end of another man's life as he knew it."
Lucien Bute has the electricity and special connection with his fans that make them go wild when he does his walk-in Montreal or Quebec City. Again, the anticipation level is high because the expectation for something special to happen makes that so. And Bute knows how to play this as well. The result is something to look forward to.
Mando
The beloved Mando Ramos was pure 100% L.A fighter. He was L.A.'s answer to Boston's Tony DeMarco and Chicagoland's Tony Zale. Twenty-seven of his forty-nine fights were held in the storied Olympic Auditorium. There was something special about him; he was able to connect with and capture the hearts of Mexican-American boxing fans like few others. Art Aragon, Keeny Teran, Danny "Little Red" Lopez, and Bobby Chacon did it as well. And like them, he had an abundance of charisma. Ramos became one of the greatest sports stars in Los Angeles. Lopez and Chacon and even Aragon before them were tremendous box-office attractions, but what was really incredible was that by just the age of eighteen, young Mando Ramos virtually owned the Olympic.
As for "Little Red," he made work on Friday go by faster knowing you would see him fight on television on Saturday. In an era in which fights were regularly seen free on non-cable television, he was one of the greatest of the television fighters and his name guaranteed big ratings. Danny was a high volume puncher who worked hard to set up his knockout blows. His fights often turned into melodramas in which he overcame knock-downs, severe punishment, and adversity to score sudden and spectacular knockouts. In this regard, he was like Matthew Saad Muhammad and then later, Carl "The Cat" Thompson.
Jerry Quarry would come down the aisle wearing an Old School outfit (hood and all), rolling his shoulders and throwing hooks to loosen up. The young and good looking Irishman from the West Coast was all about charisma. But as Mike Casey says is a great piece titled, "The Jewels in Jerry's Crown: Quarry at his very best:" "Jerry Quarry was a colourful, good-looking Southern Californian of Irish descent, whose erratic ring form constantly bewildered his critics and even his most ardent fans. He would counter exasperating defeats with spectacular victories and send his supporters yo-yoing from joy to despair and back again." And that's why his fights were so thrilling. Just when you wrote Jerry off, he would come back and tingle your spine with a great win.
"The Greatest"
And, of course, who can forget the chants of "Ali, Ali, Ali," when Muhammad Ali came down the ramp, but then who can dispute the dreadfully high cost he paid when he rope-a-doped Big George Foreman into an endgame strategy in Africa? Ali won, but the body shots he sustained were savage and would have debilitated a lesser man. Ali's later win over Smokin Joe in the Philippines and his victory over hard-punching Earnie Shavers would contribute greatly in rendering him a shell of what he used to be. We all know the result, and it is painful to write about, much less witness. The horrific Holmes defeat in 1980 would finish the job that his victories had started. Yet, his walk-ins today are not only spine tingling, they produce moist eyes as well.
Wlad
The Brothers Klitschkos are not known for their rock and roll excitement, but their historical impact will be not only their influence on and dominance of the heavyweight boxing division, but also on their being the triggers that ignited the Eastern Euro boxing explosion. But more to the point, when the signal is given for Wlad to walk in for a fight at the SAP-Arena in Mannheim, Germany, there are chills and thrills to be had in the almost clinical manner in which he quickly gets up and begins his fast walk to the ring. He is all business and ready to go to work. No high fives, trash talk, no smiling, just business. It's almost as if he is saying, "Let's get this done so we can all enjoy the big ring celebration after the fight." What's not to like?
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Only thing I would add
I was a big fan of Wlad before he got with Stewart. He was much more aggressive and went for the KO every fight, but he got caught a few times and we saw his glass jaw exposed. Now post Manny he is a better fighter no question, just he has not made better fights.
I don’t think the fights have to be competitive to be exciting Tyson had very few competitive fights, but you do need to bring an some sense of "this guy is going to kill him." Wlad just jabs you for 7-8 rounds then brings the hammer in the later rounds. But he is the most physically gifted fighter in history. If he played basketball he would be a shooting guard. All of the American athletes of that stature are playing basketball aka…that’s why you will never see another great American heavy weight.
PS- Can’t explain why folks don’t like VK all of his fight were exciting and he was aggressive, I think the Lewis fight was one of the best fights that didn’t get watched. He has Paul William syndrome good fighter bad personality, needs to talk more crap and maybe the American fight fans will want to see him.
*A young Tyson had the best walk in hands down, with no socks and just a towel on his back. Everyone was scared that he might kill the other fighter or he might try to rob someone in the crowd.
Tyson's my pick as well, DL3
That flash dance cut shirt over his head, no socks, sweat glistening…..and knowing that were it not for boxing he would be behind bars or dead for having ripped off doll heads to mugging old ladies….or worse. That was fear. That was bottled anticipation.
Ted, most of the guys that you've mentioned let it all go in the ring....
Vitali and Vladimir are far too methodical to inspire…..or to get spines tingling. They’re like watching surgeons doing a colonoscopy; methodically removing another ass from contention.
Hardly the stuff of tingling spines.
Good posts on a very well written and interesting article.
Sometimes I think it’s the passage of time, that I’ve been watching boxing for so long that it takes more to inspire me—
And there may be a little of that in play, but I honestly think there are fewer fighters in general who generate that “tingle.” And some fight arenas in this country are “dead” spots—not at all like watching Bute fight in Canada. Anyway, PP is right, the Klits are hardly “the stuff of tingling spines.”
Might help if there were fighters who forced them to be so.
But that ain’t happening in HW division.
Finally, DL3 makes a great point about Wlad pre and post Steward: He may have been more vulnerable before, but he was a lot more fun to watch. There should be a middle ground where Wlad is aware but also more aggressive when opportunities present themselves and I think we can see that when Manny becomes frustrated with him.
Wlad had more tools than he generally displays, IMO.
Loved the article, Ted
Mike Casey’s quote about “Little Red” Lopez summed Danny up for me perfectly. And Gordon Marino’s quote echoes my thoughts about the Klitschkos exactly. I understand why Danny Lopez thrilled us so, but I don’t get why Wlad and Vitali are not appreciated more. Both brothers are superb fighters, and for me it is their icy, clinical, no-nonsense demeanors and surgical operations on opponents that makes me a huge fan of them, and probably scares the bejesus out of their victims once they enter the ring and behold the superbly fit brothers Klitschko. I “get it” in that many fans desire the wanton violence and go-for-break mentatality of fighters like Danny Lopez, Arturo Gatti, the now-deceased Edwin Valero, and Manny Pacquiao, but there’s always been a place in my heart for intelligent box-fighters like Muhammad Ali, Alexis Arguello, Sergio Martinez, and, yes, Floyd Mayweather. Simply put, Wlad and Vitali deserve to be better known, and better respected, here in The States. My prediction is that both brothers will get their just-due in their next contests, by respectively beating Sam Peter (again!) and Shannon Briggs in the equivalent of heavyweight shootouts. Just my opinion.
Dan Adams
You know, Dan, Gordon and Mike are two of my favorite writers. Constantly in touch with
Gordon and I almost stareted up an on-line site with Mike. Both guys know their stuff.
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Ehhh I like the Klitschkos but . . .
I can and can’t watch their fights when it goes past the 7 or 8th round because I already know what’s going to happen.
However I love both guys. I like that they don’t talk trash, I like their approach and mindset. Unfortunately in America, bad behavior is celebrated. I was a huge Tyson fan and realizes many of his opponents were intimidated before the entered the ring, but I think it is so cool that the Klitschkos are the antithesis to Tyson and the stereotypical heavyweight brawler.
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VEe is ANIMated!
I agree. But my point was watching Wlad just before and during the walk-in. It's different than most
and he does it in such a focused manner that it is almost scary. It’s like, “Let’s get this over with either early or late. I prepared and ready.” Yeah, he is lining them up for the slaughter. What’s not to like?
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And this Wlad is not the same as the one who fought Sanders or Brewster. This one is a
killing machine of Robo-cop likeness.
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Klitchko's
They bring little excitement to the game. They paw with their jab as a defensive tool instead of a offensive tool. Wladimir has never gotten over the Corrie Sanders blasting. I can still see him crawing across the canvas. Vitali lets his younger brother get all the ink. He is the one with the heart. Now that Samuel Peter is washed up he gets his rematch. Same was with Brewster. The hw’s are the worst division. Europeans are used to soccer and can watch a slow game so the Klitchko’s are accepted.
Repeat post:
I agree. But my point was watching Wlad just before and during the walk-in. It’s different than most and he does it in such a focused manner that it is almost scary. It’s like, "Let’s get this over with either early or late. I prepared and ready." Yeah, he is lining them up for the slaughter. What’s not to like
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What's not to like?
His caution to a fault.
I love to watch a brilliant boxer. Wlad is not one. Nor do I see him as a “killing machine”—
Louis was a killing machine.
When I see him enter the ring, in spite of his skills, I can’t help but think, “Yeah, right.”
Prediction: If anyone ever shows the skill-set (not one or two lucky shots) to consistently endanger Wlad—
He will look like a deer in the headlights again. That’s just who he is, IMO.
Leonard/Hearns and Hearns/Hagler—those are just two of the fights that gave me that “tingle.”
ok ok, maybe not. But as a guy whol lived in Europe for many years, there is something about Wlad
that brings out the beast in his fans. The way they cheer when he enters the ring. The way they chant. The way they go ape-shit when he lands a right, and then the way they go into a spiriling orgaistic frenzy as he begins the ending. Maybe it’s mechanical and predictable, but the entire show gives me goose bumps and it doens;t have as much to do with his style as it does with the crowd reaction.
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And it reminds me of the way Euro fans reacted during a futball match aka soccer.
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He is their homeboy.
Boxing is more alive in Montreal and Germany, among other places, than here—yes?
by Don From Prov on Aug 31, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Off the subject, though he was another who prided those chills that ran down your back,
On August 31, 1969, Rocky Marciano died in a light airplane crash in Iowa, a day before his 46th birthday.
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Off the subject, though he was another who prided those chills that ran down your back,
On August 31, 1969, Rocky Marciano died in a light airplane crash in Iowa, a day before his 46th birthday.
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He
was not gun-shy. But then he had a granite chin.
by Don From Prov on Aug 31, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And amean disposition once the bell rang. He was uniqely built--like Hearns in that resoect--he
looked like a billy goat. Sloping shoulder and strong neck and powerful arms and legs, but it was his stamina that gave him that certian edge.
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Great Read ty Ted
My old man always used to say , watch out for those blokes with sloping shoulders that resemble a bear . You cant hurt em and they usually bang very very hard .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Repeat post:
I agree. But my point was watching Wlad just before and during the walk-in. It’s different than most and he does it in such a focused manner that it is almost scary. It’s like, “Let’s get this over with either early or late. I prepared and ready.” Yeah, he is lining them up for the slaughter. What’s not to like
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Last paragraph of article:
“Wlad
"The Brothers Klitschkos are not known for their rock and roll excitement, but their historical impact will be not only their influence on and dominance of the heavyweight boxing division, but also on their being the triggers that ignited the Eastern Euro boxing explosion. But more to the point, when the signal is given for Wlad to walk in for a fight at the SAP-Arena in Mannheim, Germany, there are chills and thrills to be had in the almost clinical manner in which he quickly gets up and begins his fast walk to the ring. He is all business and ready to go to work. No high fives, trash talk, no smiling, just business. It’s almost as if he is saying, “Let’s get this done so we can all enjoy the big ring celebration after the fight.” What’s not to like?"
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Great article, Ted. I remember Kid Akeem’s entrances in Vegas and it was like African Royalty. He was a very noble looking guy and made my spine tingle big time. But when they did the D.O.A. chant after the Quiroga fight, I stopped watching boxing for several years. That was as bad as it gets and reminded me of Pintor-Owens,
How about Calzaghe's ring walk v Lacy...
‘Smack my bitch up’ by the Prodigy. Not spine tingling, just very apt and funny.
Sherrif Ray Giordon Reid out of Waycross, GA but now in Florida checking in via email
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Raging Bull generated anxiety for the fans
Though he fought before I was born, Jake LaMotta I am sure had his game face on during his trek to the ring. I don’t know if Robert DeNiro captured the LaMotta essence right in his portrayel, but I would have to assume that Jake had all the right moves before,during and after his fights. My father, Charley Norkus, told me Jake was in his own world during his fights and had a “take no prisoners” atitude that was felt by everyone at ringside and beyond. His televised fights proves this without a shadow of a doubt and once again, the Friday Night Heroes of the past, lifts us all to wishing there were fighters today who have that hunger to perform.
by BayonneBombersBoy on Aug 31, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
And actually, that's my signature approach. I get a title I like and then write around it. Not very
artistic but it “works” for me.
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I dont get it
Is it because they are heavyweights or is it a nationalistic thing? Floyd’s not exactly Mister" kill or be killed" yet he is a big P P V draw in the states . Christ I love Ali and Holmes but even they were in a few stinkers . Ali v Young or Holmes v Carl Williams were not great fights . What the Klits lack are interesting quality or marquee opponents . I bet if a young Gerry Cooney was knocking out blokes and was in line to fight one of the K bros that HBO would want in . Maybe its the fact that their are two K bros ,it dilutes their impact . If you combined their strengths you would have a really exciting fighter . Vitalis volume of punching , meaness and beard combined with Wlads speed and power . Its the same here in Oz , compared to previous gun heavyweights the K bros are unknown . More people here would still know about Holyfield , Tyson and Lewis than the Ukrainians. I had two fave spine tinglers pre the fight , Ted . Durans entrance in Montreal in 79 , the crowd was huge , it sounded like the roof was going to come off . Any Duran fight in New York had an incredible atmosphere .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
sage point
Maybe its the fact that their are two K bros ,it dilutes their impact
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Tyson’s been mentioned, but his ring walk vs Spinks was terrifying— in a full sweat, with creepy chain sounds for music. Spinks was visibly nervous.
B-Hop, while not known for spine-tingling showmanship, would walk in wearing the executioner mask, then stand on the ropes doing the X-throat slash. Always got me fired up.
Then there was Prince Naseem. I watched the Kelley fight as a kid, and I remember seeing Nas’ entrance and thinking— “the balls on this guy! He better be real good”. And of course he delivered a spine-tingler that night and many times after.
I Loved Hops " bankrobber-executioner" entrances
Dunno about Naz on his flying carpet though LOL
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
lmao Tysox
Id forgotten about that weird" the sound of being kayoed" music Tyson walked in with that night . Spinks looked dead set petrified .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Alis entrance in Zaire
Was the other one . Danny Greens fights in Perth are a committed and maniacal mob . He gets lots of lurve in the West does Green . Its like another country over there. Sort of like Texas in the states .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
The entire Mayweather-Hatton fight for me was just tremendous. Unreal atmosphere for a modern Vegas fight. “The big fight atmosphere” for me is something that I think boxing can still do that NO OTHER SPORT can duplicate, even UFC where it’s also one-on-one fighting. The closest I come outside of boxing is a truly huge and important college football game, with all the pageantry and pride and decades of tradition backing the game itself.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
GDay Scott
Pom fans are unbeatable mate. If you ever get the chance suss out a rugby test at Cardiff Arms park do so. 50000 taffys all singing IN TUNE . Makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up . We wont mention Christie v Kaylor or Hagler v Minter though … Cheers blokes , day off , going surfing ….
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
hell yea
I watched Mayweather-Hatton on closed circuit in the Mandalay ballroom with about 20 scattered Americans and hundreds of screaming Brits. Even that was an unforgettable fight atmosphere.
The arena must have been off the charts. Remember they booed our national anthem? It was ON after that!
Vlad & Vitali
Fellas , I suppose the Klitschko Bros look boring , but just look at the records. They are by far the 2 best Heavies in World Boxing & rule the Division. I suppose it doesen’t matter how its done as long as you get the result. The Klitschko’s get plenty of criticism, but have proved themselves good champions that don’t thrash talk & let their fists do the talking. I personally rate Vitali better than Vlad & have him as the Sports number 1 fighter. Ted, I hope your enjoying that Johny Lewis Autobiography mate. Nice Article. Cheers buddy
Great quote here
“One of the things I do love about both Klitschko’s, but I never hear it mentioned, is their complete and total dedication to boxing and their willingness to learn and get better. Those are two traits that are sorely lacking in many of today’s fighters, regardless of what weight division they campaign in. The Klitschko’s are strictly business. They take boxing seriously and are well aware of its dangers. I’ll bet their coaches and trainers can’t recall the last time they missed a morning run, or had to be coaxed to go an extra round sparring or on the heavy bag.” 1
— Frank Lotierzo
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KLITSCHKO BROTHERS
The K Brothers will be greatly appreciated for their craft in the ring years from now. What they do best is win fights. They are not trying to be Mike Tyson or George Foreman, they have their own unique styles which are best for them. As Teddy Atlas would say, they fight tall. With their height they cannot imitate Joe Frazier or Rocky Marciano and that style of fighting would be all wrong for them. They have learned how to use the physical make up God gave them. They are great fighter who will get the honors due them at a later date.They certainly cannot be blamed for the lack of quality opponents. Like other champions before them, they have fought what is available. Their records speak volumes for their ability in the ring. Best wishes to the K Brothers from the Lone Star State.
The K Brothers will be greatly appreciated for their craft in the ring years from now
True…..but not necessarily be loved. Styles make fights…and styles make fight fans. The K Bros have, for all but the most loyal and faithful fans, never ‘connected’ in a way that will immortalize them with a broader audience. IMHO
No, NO. I know what it meant. But why be so humble? pakinpower is a superb poster.
He doesn’t need to be humble, IMHO
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ah, ok
Why not be humble? Would you prefer he be James Toney-esque?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
No, you are right. I DO try to be humble. Otherwise, you will get eaten alive by
posters.
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Toney and I used to have a lot more in common.
We both wore the same size suit.
Other than that, not much.
I've been
clinging to the K-bro. nut-sack for 10 yrs now……….. I saw sumthin’ in them dude’s way back when…….
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
Again, thanks for the descriptive narrative, Bill. It's mikder than swining from Pavlik's scrotum to Maywether's
testcles like a trapeeze. Gues who fuits that foul bill, Bill?
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I saw the press pics of
“Klit-Briggs” today…….. Briggs is one of the worst dressed celebs I’ve ever seen….. Just like a gangsta’ from the hood, Ol’ Briggs has his pants down below his azz and his butt-huggers up above his hips…… The Hell????
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
Yeah, it's Brooklyn ion the house with Briggs. But like I said, his wife rules.
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Just caught this thread today !!!
I almost missed it entirely !!!Great article Ted !!! Yes and Ted you’ll have t head into Montreal and catch Bute and Lemieux live and get an even better feel for them and their respective skill sets and talents in person !!! Of course you will also write about it and we’ll read it !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 2, 2010 6:07 AM EDT reply actions
I WANT
the K-bros. to kick some hardcore ass against “Peter & Briggs.”
I get so pissed when I chat with so-called knowledgeable boxing wizards who do nothing but rag and piss down the backs of the two brothers as if they sucked and had no clue how to handle themselves in the ring…….. I see Vitali and Wlad well on the way to heavyweight greatness…….. I cannot name off the bat 15 other ex-champs going back to 1887 who can beat these dude’s…….. WORD!!
Vitali and Wladimir are bad dude’s……….. TRUTH!!
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
MRBILL , No argument on Wlad, but re Vitali I'm not so sure. I think Holmes, Lewis, Foreman, Ali, and Tyson
beat Vital with savargry and maice aforethought. In fact, Lweis already did it.
Wlad is another story. He has become a monster killing machine under Steward.
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I feel BOTH
are bad-ass dude’s…………….. V.K. is meaner, tougher and intimidates way better than Wladimir does……… V.K. can go a long way with them assets……..
Wlad Klit is younger and has a better, smoother technique than Vitali, but he’s not as mentally strong or as scary in the ring……… But yes, Wladimir has upped his game since 2006……..
Plus, today, Wladimir is peaked; Vitali is a bit past his best years at age 39, but still dangerous as all hell…..
I also think V.K.‘s head trainer Fritz S. (The hell is his name?) has done a great job with V.K……. V.K. doesn’t need Manny Steward……… Fritz is doin’ a fine job…….. WORD!
I’m also gettin’ pissed with the critics whining about the K-brothers competition…… The brothers have fought and defended against some good dude’s who can kick some ass in the ring……. They are at least fighting the best out there who are willing to get in the ring……. Both “Haye and Valuev” have wussed out of proposed fights with the bros………
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
Valuev sucks barge pole to the max, MRBILL. Haye, however, is playing a shrewd waiting game.
After disposing of Harrison, he will take off another several months to rest himself while the Klits get older. Yep. No secret there. Sounds like an EnglisMAN with a PLAN.
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Now ESPN3 and
my cable company are at odds with each other….. Time Warner said “No Dice” to ESPN’s contract / offer….. This is bogus…..
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
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