Cotto-Chavez, Khan-Marquez targeted for early December
by Scott Christ on Aug 6, 2010 8:27 AM EDT
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Dan Rafael's weekly notebook is up at ESPN.com with tons of information as usual, but the biggest one to me was an almost throwaway near the bottom of the article, which said that Golden Boy is targeting a December 11 date for a fight between 140-pound beltholder Amir Khan and lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez.
Whether that fight happens or not, Rafael reports that Khan will fight on that date anyway, perhaps against Victor Ortiz or Marcos Maidana. Either of those fights would happen in England.
Also in the article, Bob Arum flat-out dismisses Marquez as a possible opponent for Manny Pacquiao, so Marquez can let that go and move on yet again.
"[Marquez] demonstrated that at the higher weight he can't handle it [when he lost every round to Floyd Mayweather at welterweight last fall]. Now, if that perception is incorrect, let Marquez go fight a bigger guy and prove that he belongs with Manny at a higher weight. Let him go fight Andre Berto or [Joshua] Clottey, Tim Bradley or [Devon] Alexander. If he beats one of those four guys, he can say, 'I belong with Manny at the higher weight.' Pacquiao demonstrated that he can go up, but Marquez hasn't. Maybe he can, but he needs to show it."
Notice that Arum did not include a fight with Amir Khan as something acceptable for Juan Manuel Marquez in a step up in weight if he wants to keep targeting Pacquiao.
In addition, Bob Arum wants to sign a 154-pound title fight between Miguel Cotto and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. for December 4, and what Bob wants, he usually gets. Freddie Roach said in a recent interview with John Martinez of fightchronicles.com that he'd gladly match Chavez with Cotto, and expect to win. If Cotto-Chavez gets made, Arum also says he's considering matching Fernando Montiel with Nonito Donaire in the co-feature, but frankly I'll believe that one when I see it.
Also of note:
- Yonnhy Perez and Joseph Agbeko will rematch on November 6, it appears. The paperwork just needs to be finalized. The two had a brilliant fight on Halloween night in 2009. Agbeko has not fought since, which is part of being a DKP star.
- Shannon Briggs is still the leading candidate to face Vitali Klitschko on October 16.
- The gate for Marquez-Diaz II was about $900,000, and they're expecting PPV buys between 150,000 and 200,000. Those might not sound like huge numbers, but remember this wasn't a huge fight. Golden Boy only needed about 100,000 buys of the show to break even, and they look to have far exceeded that. Overall I was relatively happy with the show myself, so I'm glad it did well.
- The Mosley-Mora PPV has its final televised fight done, as Daniel Ponce de Leon will face all-action warrior Mickey Roman. Roman was part of a leading Fight of the Year candidate in February against Antonio Escalante.
- There's also news on Giovanni Lorenzo, Krysztof Wlodarczyk, the Nishioka-Munroe fight, and a great feature piece on Devon Alexander.
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I’d be happier if “not huge fights” didn’t cost almost the same on PPV as non-huge fights, but having watched Pirog-Jacobs about eight times since Saturday, I guess I can’t not be happy with the show: put enough intriguing fights on a card, at least one of them will be memorable.
Oh, I also can’t complain, because I stole the whole card:)
Still don’t like seeing Cotto staying at 154…he doesn’t actually have weight problems with that frame, does he?
Nah, and I think if the right money fight came along he’d head back to welterweight. But the guys they’re having him fight aren’t exactly dangerous.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Aug 6, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess this means the bantamweight tourney is happening
Perez-Mares is slated to go to purse bid in a week. I doubt Perez will be willing to drop his belt unless he’s pretty much guaranteed a chance at a second big money fight.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Though it might just be a four man tourney
With Mares and Darchinyan in the other fight.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Also
Bob Arum is just going to find ways to keep Pacquiao away from Marquez. It’s really annoying, but probably true. If Marquez manages to beat Khan (which I think it unlikely), that would be more than enough for him to earn a rematch. Plus it sets up some Roach revenge plot lines.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Arum's earning a shot line is a joke
see: Margarito
by Polish Rifle on Aug 6, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the most interesting thing of that read was Arum’s assertion that he’d put his guys in an eight man single elimination tournament at 118. Get on that train Showtime. If Montiel is in, Hasegawa’s people will either get in or change their reason for not to. Look at this thing.
Donaire
Darchinyan
Montiel
Perez
Hasegawa
Mares
Agbeko
Moreno/Cermeno winner, or just Arce if Arum leverages him in.
It is gold.
I read the other day that Donaire,Montiel and Hasegawa are not interested,unfortunately,and that it could end up just a 4,or at the most,6 man tourney.
Can’t remember where but it was a reliable source and i am certain that all the names you listed will not take part.Disappointing,but then this is boxing :)
Arum said he wasn’t interested in including Donaire and Montiel. However, in the notebook, he said he’d put them in an eight man single elimination tournament because it wouldn’t tie them up as long being only three fights. Hasegawa said no because he is gunning for a rematch with Montiel and Montiel’s people had said no. All stated problems solved with the format switch. I’m sure they’ll come up with more reasons not to, but it should be worth a look from Showtime.
The Bantamweight division does not like unifications
Even Arum tried to stop Montiel from fighting the heavily favorite Hasagawa and first unification in this division in over 30 years. Going from memory Montiel is co-promoted with a Mexican promoter that made the fight anyway.
To me if Donaire is not included, how can people then say all the top fighters don’t want to fight him?
It will be like some say about Paul Williams. He went from the most avoided to the most mismanaged.
Maybe in that Khan dominates, but at least Marquez is still a scalp worth taking. Barrera was not and had a giant unhealed wound to boot.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Also in that both are blown up Featherweights,although i do admit Marquez would be more competitive.
Khan all day,imo,in a fight that doesn’t really prove much.
Not like Khan v Maidana or Bradley would anyway.
I suppose if he is definitely gonna fight the top 140lbers next year i’ll just have to wait :)
Agreed you two!
I meant in a ’blown up feather who is clearly shopworn and battle scarred, chasing a bigger faster youngster round the ring kind of way.
by Phill on Aug 6, 2010 2:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Vitali Klitschko and Shannon Briggs
Not so good.
But Perez-Agbeko is a great fight.
Bob Arum wants to sign a 154-pound title fight between Miguel Cotto and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
I will believe that when I see it. I just don’t see JCC Junior standing up to Cotto; not now, not ever.
I realize Arum wins either way…but unless he knows something we don’t, Julio is in for the lesson of his life.
I don’t think Chavez faces Cotto until Cotto is completely finished
I throw raps that attack like the Japs on Pearl Harbor/MC's be out like bank robbers/Fleeing the scene, to be a sole survivor/DJ the getaway driver/Tried to dip but he dive, I socialize on vocal vibes/On tracks stabbed up with razor sharp knives
Last I checked, Cotto was a world class boxer. Not a taxi driver.
Chavez’s much vaunted power allowed him to dispatch such formidable opponents as Jason LeHoullier and Tobia Giuseppe Loriga, his last two KO victims…..but as the line goes: " I know Miguel Cotto…and he’s no Jason LeHoullier and Tobia Giuseppe Loriga".
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