Gamboa overcomes Salido, Rios gets DQ win over Peterson, Morales stops Limond
by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 12:17 AM EDT
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Yuriorkis Gamboa and Brandon Rios were winners on HBO Boxing After Dark, and Erik Morales overcame a rocky start to knock out Willie Limond in Mexico, highlighting a busy Saturday night in boxing.
Gamboa (19-0, 15 KO) topped Orlando Salido (34-11-2, 22 KO) on unanimous decision scores of 116-109, 115-109, and 114-109, adding the IBF featherweight title to his WBA featherweight belt. It wasn't the greatest performance of Gamboa's budding career, but it was definitely the toughest fighter he's faced to date, and when Gamboa let his hands go, he was able to dominate Salido.
Unfortunately, Gamboa's habits of laying back more than most might want or expect of him at this point probably didn't impress too many tonight. He was clearly more talented and just better than Salido, a tough guy and a good fighter, but one with limits that Gamboa doesn't have. Salido spent much of the fight stalking and trying to apply pressure, generally to little or no avail, but occasionally finding success. He knocked Gamboa down on a flash knockdown in the eighth round, but was floored himself twice in the 12th. On the second knockdown of the final frame, Gamboa hit Salido while he was down, and Joe Cortez took two points away, giving Gamboa the odd points totals for the victory.
Gamboa may fight the winner of Juan Manuel Lopez-Rafael Marquez next, but I'm at the point where I don't really expect that until late next year. Lopez or Marquez may be just what Gamboa needs to maximize his potential, though. There were times tonight where he looked bored in there, and that has happened in past fights, too. We'll see.
In the co-feature, Anthony Peterson dominated the first round with his jab against Brandon Rios, but then decided to abandon that and try to mix it up in a dogfight with Rios, which was all wrong for him. Rios (25-0-1, 18 KO) floored Peterson (30-1, 20 KO) with a left hand at the end of the fifth round. In the sixth, a desperate Peterson landed several low blows, losing two points in the process. At one point, he threw a three-punch low blow combination. At the tail end of the seventh round, Peterson went low again and was disqualified.
It was a disappointing end to what had been a very compelling, very action-packed fight. Rios had bent Peterson to his will, and most are going to say that Peterson was looking for a way out. I don't know for sure that that was the case, but that many low blows certainly lends validity to the thought.
In Mexico on Integrated Sports PPV, Erik Morales notched his 50th win (50-6, 35 KO) by knocking out Scotsman Willie Limond (33-3, 8 KO) with body shots in the sixth round. The aged and faded Morales reportedly did not look good early in the fight, but tore through Limond with his body work, knocking him down three times in what turned out to be the final round. Plans before this fight seemed to be to match Morales next with fellow Mexican star and reigning lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez. Hopefully, Richard Schaefer and Golden Boy re-examine that idea. Morales is clearly not that class of fighter anymore.
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And for those wondering about HBO putting Martinez-Williams II on their schedule, Dan Rafael has this in his RAD chat:
Talking to Lou DiBella. Even though HBO announced Martinez-Williams 2 on the air tonight, the fight is not signed yet and the site is not done yet, although it likely will be Atlantic City and he believes it will be signed.
Bad Left Hook
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It has to get done… I don’t want to see Martinez fight that piss poor excuse of a fighter JCC jr any time soon.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
probably
But neither are done, and Cotto-Chavez is looking more and more likely to get pushed back.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
No DQ?
I thought Gamboa would have been Disqualified for hitting Salido in the back of head while he was down. Like when Abraham hit Dirrel
How can we forget the Lorenzo fight as well…
Salido could have acted like a punk and faked being knocked out….. and gotten the DQ.
Yet Cortez is fair but firm… what about any shot after a knockdown is an automatic DQ… what a piece of shit…
You don’t pick when you enforce the rules…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I thought Rios systematically breaking Peterson down was more than entertaining and promising. HBO’s star, AP, doesn’t seem to have that extra gear, intelligence or power to warrant their continued affection.
But that’s their problem. They are not in the business of developing fighters so it’s really not theirs strength or best talent telling us who to watch. For my money…since we already know theirs was on AP…I’m following the Rios wherever it goes.
So it’s Rios up….and Peterson down.
As for Gamboa, he may not have been exactly what we hoped to see tonight but the kid ran the show, was never really hurt and was in spectacular condition, closing strong after his first full twelve rounds. I have rarely seen a more relaxed fighter that explosive
HBO’s star, AP
To be fair one video package doesn’t make him “HBO’s star.” I don’t think anyone is counting on the Peterson brothers to be big draws or great fighters, but they’re talented, American, and have an interesting story. He’s had 31 fights and I don’t recall any of them being on HBO before tonight, though I might be forgetting something.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
They ran a video package on Peterson because he has a really interesting story, and God knows we’re all fully aware that HBO boxing producers absolutely adore highlighting the childhood hardships of professional boxers, and the Trainers Who Became Like Fathers to Them. But I sincerely doubt they were expecting Anthony Peterson to become some breakout star. He and Lamont have been around a while now and nobody’s rushed to put them on TV. They didn’t FEATURE Rios, but they only have time for one video package, and Rios has one of their three HBO-approved fighter backgrounds. The others are “Fighter Who Has a Family,” as seen for Chad Dawson, and “Fighter Who Has a Foul and Hilarious Relative Involved With His Career,” as seen with the Mayweathers and Timothy Bradley.
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
and Rios has one of their three HBO-approved fighter backgrounds
Meant Peterson, obviously.
Anyway I’m not really trying to argue, other than to say I truly, truly, truly don’t believe there’s any hair-pulling amongst the HBO brass that Anthony Peterson lost tonight. I doubt they much care at all.
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
i think they’re happier. they can unleash him on baby bull in houston on another BAD, but headlining this time. he’ll KO baby bull (</3), and then throw him at whoever they want from there
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Sep 12, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Top Rank and Golden Boy fighters. Not gonna happen.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
bollocks
didn’t think of that
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Sep 12, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
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And am glad to see Bradely pere so described. I think Peterson—just hasn’t fought in so long it’s like coming out of retirement. That kind of inactivity right at that age isn’t good.
But Barry Hunter's screaming at full tilt at the poor kid really turned me off.
Pray for Nick Charles
I agree on that.
HBO executives are corporate so their instincts lean more to protecting their own asses, not hair-pulling.
Nevertheless, Peterson really blew it tonight. Either he’s been well-matched and thus undefeated….or Rios is the real deal. I think it’s more of the latter with a fair portion of the former.
I think a lot of Peterson’s trouble tonight came from what you were saying (he doesn’t listen to his corner) and the fact that he’s been REALLY inactive for the last two years. He’s absolutely no better now than he was in 2008 or even 2007.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate to be too hard on the kid....
but he did just look out of it tonight. His corner was beside themselves working to get him to listen, focus and fight.
i was basically wondering the exact same thing. i was texted my pal during the fight, and we both agreed at how odd it was that he kept throwing it down despite his corner yelling at him to stop brawling and start boxing. we were happy though cuz of the entertainment obv, but it was still odd
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Sep 12, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Too Long Without a Fight
He doesn’t get to fight enough—2 plus rounds in March, against a guy 2-4 of last 6, only once in ’09 against a guy 2-4 last 6 (10 full rounds) and before that all the way back to ’08. Monster ring rust, for sure—maybe other issues as well, but that would do it.
Even so,
That business with fusillades of low blows was unparalleled in my experience. That’s what was weirdest to me.
As confused as we were,
Imagine how confused and frustrated Barry Hunter was the entire fight. Battle Axe is right. Peterson’s abandoning his jab and the rest of any strategy he had planned in favor of a toe to toe brawl was great for us but a disaster for his team.
By the second round, I was thinking we had another we had another Corrales deciding to go toe to toe against Castillo instead of using his natural advantages but then I realized that Peterson is no Corrales. His punches are not devastating; they are meant to be more cumulative.
Rios on the other hand saw an opportunity being handed to him…that is, AP simply deciding to fight his fight….and did exactly what he should; capitalized. With the fight in a phone booth, Rios virtually stole the thinking part of the game from Peterson and his corner.
Then AP refused to listen, hear or adjust. He was in a zone. The wrong one. Hunter threatened by half way to stop the fight….at that point as much because his charge was not listening as everything else.
The first low blow I could argue was smart. Maybe even the second. Dirty pool for sure but Rios was hurt. But then AP did nothing. In fact, he went right back to the same old same old.
Every low blow after that was just another way of saying stop the fight….I wnt to get off.
BA, Cotto and Judah love a well placed good low blow
every now and then. Miguel in particular has one of the best “Who, me?” faces in the business when accused by the referee of using it. All while the other guy is writhing in pain … giving Cotto both a breather and a softer underbelly for later attacks
You're Right
About those two, and they aren’t alone—and I don’t know what else it would be than “stop the fight,” but why not the ever-popular “my hand [nose, ankle, _ is broken, my eye, my eye, I can’t see” etc., and just go to an RTD? It’s not like he never heard of those things. Just. . .odd. I’ve just never seen so many—he’d be stopped, and go right back to it. The other guys kind of save them for severe short-term emergencies and dole them out real carefully
Miguel’s “Who, me?” face is really quite priceless, imo. He might be the Who me? king.
Add Rios to the list that includes Anjulo, Kirkland, Ortiz, and other such beasts.
Pray for Nick Charles
Reminds me a little more of a young Juan Diaz than any of those guys. Constant throwing, not really game-changing power, goes to the body pretty well, and takes a good shot.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
KELLERMAN
I’m starting to get really annoyed at Mr Bug Eyes. The guy almost ejaculated on Gamboa in the post fight interview (Rangers-Yanks were still in rain delay) and was gushing on and on about Peterson. It’s too much….no objectivity at all from the guy.
Yeah...but he works for HBO.
How objective can you be when you are getting paid by an entity whose objective is to bolster the image of their chosen star. Not very.
Another thing to consider is that we all watch the fight because of Gamboa … so unless the other guy did something to capture our imagination, it’s the broadcast team’s mission to keep us focused on the draw, in this case, Yuriokis.
Plus, I thought the kid did alright. He certainly looked a lot better finishing his first 12 round fight than Juanma did stumbling from post to post against Mtagwe.
It wasn’t his first 12 round fight. He went 12 with Jonathan Victor Barros in March. This is two straight fairly underwhelming decision wins for Gamboa, though one was in Germany so many didn’t notice that one at least.
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by Scott Christ on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Thx for telling me SC
I didn’t see it.
He was not totally impressive but he wasn’t unimpressive. If he keeps smacking his opponents then stooping to admire his work, he’ll wake up in his locker watching tape of himself….going to sleep.
Caballero-Gamboa!
I know CC has something else lined up, but lets get it on already!
I'd love to see it
Because I want to see Gamboa battle someone with those absurd dimensions. Such an interesting matchup. But Top Rank won’t go near it, I don’t think.
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by Scott Christ on Sep 13, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
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