Ted the Bull's Scotch and Cigar Club #6
The Scotch and Cigar Club is back, and as always, your guide is the one and only Ted "The Bull" Sares.
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Welcome to the latest edition of the Club (18th overall). No more fooling around-we are going first class tonight and from here on out. The very best Champagne (Baccarat with some bottles of 2000 Louis Roederer "Cristal" Brut Rosé just in case), shrimp on ice, chunks of Maine Lobster with a tangy buttery sauce, and a variety of sushi for those with more adventurous proclivities.
The table is also lined up with just about every fine single malt scotch imaginable and the cigar humidor is overflowing with premium Cubans (and only premium Cubans) tonight including Partagas Shorts, Montecristo No 4's, Belicosos Finos Cab 25, Punch-Punch and many more. By the way, is "premium Cubans" redundant? Enjoy.
Our music is usually up to you, but we are starting things off with the Godfather himself, James Brown (and Macio Parker). Yeah, we got "I Feel Good," "Get up off of That Thing," "Living In America," "Funky Chicken," and "The Payback" among many others. Rumor has it that Boosty Collins might stop by as well and share some funk.
With a nod to Rhode Island, the Duke Robillard band with legendary Doug James on baritone sax will be stopping by to do the "Memphis Grind."
Our blues hit of the month is guitar great Robben Ford's "Take Out Some Insurance" from his new blues Collection album. Also, you will want to hear Recovery Road - Robben Ford, Will Lee & Friends. Our jazz hit is Curtiss Fuller's rendition of "A La Mode." This one has to be heard to be believed.
Of course, I'll play anything you want as long as it's not Country, Dixieland or New Age. Fusion (as in Kenny G) is also verboten.
Now, let's get to boxing and please don't hesitate to inject your own boxing topics, opinions, disagreement, or agreement. Let's have some fun here.
1) Pound for Pound Top Dozen
Again, this is simply a snapshot in time as of September 1, 2010 and is different from my last listing.
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Lucian Bute
4. Andre Ward
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Paul Williams
7. Celestino Caballero
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Vic Darchinyan
10. Timothy Bradley
11. Jean Pascal
12. Juan Manuel Lopez
Others a heartbeat away include Chad Dawson, Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym, Yonnhy Perez, Juan Manuel Marquez, and Marcos Maidana.
2) Prospect of the Month: James "Keep'em Sleepin" Stevenson
At 13-0 (10 KO), James is beginning to get some attention among the lower tier welterweights. While is opposition leaves something to be desired, he did stop one Dwayne Shelton. No big deal except Shelton is the same guy who gave streaking Mike Tiberi (recognize the name?) his only loss. Mike is currently at 14-1. These are Belt Way guys and they don't usually get the kind of publicity that Philly fighters warrant, but many a fine fighter has emerged from that region.
3) Highest Paid Boxers Report
Etianne "E.T." Whitaker won 19 of his first 25 bouts but when he was stopped by Detroit's Damon "Bulldog" McCreary (who retired with a 13-0 mark), things started to go south. In fact, he has lost 21 of his last 23 and his current record is 33-32-2. His last three defeats were one round stoppages and occurred in seconds. Indeed, he has endured 7 first round wax jobs, while inflicting 10 such icings of his own. That computes to 17 first round fights. He has lost 4 fights in the second stanza while stopping his opponent 5 times in that's same round. Continuing the pattern, he has dropped 5 in the third round while winning 2 in that same round. Thus, 33 of his fights have not gone beyond the third round. If you do the math, E.T. does pretty well on a pay for round basis.
Curiously, he has fought just about anyone who is anybody including the aforementioned McCreary twice, Demetrius Jenkins, Rudy Markussen, Anthony Hanshaw, Jorge Fernando Castro (120-8-3 coming in), Charles Brewer, Rico Hoye, Tito Mendoza, Allen Green, Troy Ross, Jaidon Codrington, Paul Briggs, Chris Henry, Karoly Balzsay, Bryan Vera, and William Joppy. E.T. is also a road warrior deluxe. You name it and he has fought there including such exotic locations as Saint Lucia, Montreal, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany, Cordoba, Argentina, Viborg, Denmark,
4) Mismatches of the Month and Worst Records of the Month
Throw a dart at the Thai matches and you will come up with the answer. Front and center, however, continues to be Medgoen 3-K Battery Singsurat who keeps trying to charge his dead batteries by fighting guys who are making their debut. 3-K (68-6) has won his last there against 3 debuting fighters (from Nigeria, Spain, and Japan). In this regard, he practices equal opportunity. Seventeen of his last 32 have come against boxers fighting their first professional bout.
Meanwhile, Hungarian Gabor Blough is now at -2-66-5 while Slovakian Anton Glofak is at 2-80-8 and has been stopped a dangerous 41 times.
5) Boxing Personality of the Month: Teddy Atlas
Teddy is a guy whose name can stir up controversy faster than you can say "Margarito," but few doubt his incredible passion for the sport of boxing, refreshing honesty, and the fact his heart is in the right place. Some say he has become a caricature of himself, but I just think that's the way he is. Cus was, so is Kevin Rooney. These guys were or are quai-"Runyonesque." Maybe it has something to do with the Catskills.
While I personally don't see him as an elite trainer, I do believe he is a very fine one who was brilliant with Michael Moorer, albeit a bit overly theatrical and emotional. I also think Teddy's somewhat over the top with his tough guy persona (in my view, he was more like a rebellious kid that got into trouble as the title of his book infers), but on balance, the ledger is manifestly positive. In 1997, he founded the Dr. Theodore Atlas Foundation to honor the memory of his late father. The Foundation awards scholarships and grants to worthy individuals. In addition, he breaks down fights extremely well, he calls out a fighter's weakness very astutely, he is a solid trainer with documented success (and has an opportunity to add to his resume with Russian heavyweight Aleksander Povetkin, he has a true passion for boxing, he has done great work for charities, and I particularly liked the way he worked with some of his lesser known fighters back in the day-fighters like the late "Shamrock Express" (Chris Reid) and the explosive "Heat" (John Verderosa).
Insight into what makes Teddy tick can be found in his book: From the Streets to the Ring: A Son's Struggle to Become a Man, Harper Collins, 2006, By Teddy Atlas, Peter Alson. I have read it and found it to be well worth the money.
6) Boxing in the U.S. Remains in Big Trouble, But There Is Hope
Though I like him, watching Sergio Mora fight on PPV is a forerunner of what we can expect in the way of "free" boxing on television. Pavlik-Espino was hardly a bargain. It's going to get worse. The many negative variables coming from different directions will continue to weaken the sport for which we have such passion. To repeat, boxing in the U.S is in trouble.
Also, those who referred to Dana White in the past as a used car salesman (mostly on other tabloid sites) had best review their opinions. This guy knows what marketing something is all about. He is now the president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and a multi-millionaire with over one million Twitter followers and adulation from the estimated 300 million fans who support the sport worldwide. For me, he represents the essence of being an entrepreneur. I admire him and salute him.
And now Evander Holyfield reportedly says he's looking at both Klits and Haye. Swell; get in line with Timur and Maurice, Evander.
Some hope on the horizon
Guys like Beibut Shumenov offer the possibility of a recharge in boxing,. This guy comes to fight and as Dan Goossen says, "It's unheard of, a fighter that wants one challenge after another so early in their career... But this is what boxing needs, the most competitive and biggest fights that can be made. The networks should ONLY be looking at these young champions to be facing off with one another. Beibut wants to give the fans want they want to see." By the way, Beibut has a law degree, speaks five languages (Russian, Kazakh, English, Turkish and Uzbek), and with his brother, Chingis, own a boxing promotional company based in Las Vegas. Wow! And WBO middleweight champ Dmitry Pirog may be another. The return of super exciting James Kirkland can only be a positive for boxing as well. Finally, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez represent something special-a throwback if you will. And for those who think Junior Chavez has a chance against him should they ever fight, it's a no contest. Look, Saul beat Miguel Vazquez twice. This is the same Vazquez who schooled Breidis Prescott (who waxed Khan) and who just beat Ji-Hoon Kim for the vacant IBF lightweight title. Canelo also waxed Raul Pinzon in one--the same Pinzon who gave Ricardo Torres fits. Canelo would walk through Junior and beat him like a rug. I suspect it might not be too long before we see a Cotto-Alvarez matchup. Let's get it on!!!
7) Margarito gets license to fight Pac-Man in Texas
"It was an honor to fight in the first world championship held at Cowboys Stadium. Jerry Jones was a wonderful host."
--Congressman Manny Pacquiao
My feelings on this have begun to change ever-so-slightly, though I still condemn Margarito for failing to show proper remorse and I am bothered by the hugh payday he will receive.. However, in my mind, I can separate his actions with the Resto-Collins affair. The entire deal has been predictable and it is now a done deal (no big surprise) so I have decided to move on.
To those who choose to boycott the fight, I say have at it, for your cause is clearly a righteous one in your minds.. As for me, I have played with the idea of going down there with some Texas buddies and watching Pac and Margo getting it on, but the undercard might be such that the trip would not be worth the trouble. The entire event-- what with the monster crowd and its ethnic content-does have an allure that I cannot deny. To boycott it on PPV or live or on replay may well be to cut off your nose to spite your face. Remember, this is Manny Pacquiao in there.
Now then, if someone offered to "fully comp" you for the fight, would you accept the offer and go down there to watch it?
8) "Sucra"
Former title challenger "Sucra" Ray Oliveira (47-11-2) returns to the ring on October 2 for the first time in more than five years against light heavyweight Joey "KO Kid" Spina, at Foxwoods Resort Casino in Mashantucket, Connecticut. I know Ray and the entire Oliveira family and I don't want him to take this fight. In his last one with Emanuel Augustus in July 2005 at the Hampton Beach Casino in New Hampshire, bad things happened in the ring and thankfully Emanuel saw it and held back. That one was topped in the 8th before anything tragic happened.
Spina (25-1-2) is a heavy puncher and could do serious damage to Ray. For God's sakes, this fight should not be allowed.
9) Excerpt from Planet Boxing:
Brownsville
Home to Abe "Kid Twist" Reles and "Pittsburgh Phil" Strauss, two of the Jewish mob's most feared henchmen, Brownsville was where lighthearted kvetching and the shouts of pushcart vendors faded into the muffled screams of the mafia hit. In the hands of Louis "Lepke" Buchalter and "Big Al" Anastasia, Murder Inc. turned the business of crime into a vast, well-oiled enterprise.
--From Bummy Davis vs. Murder Inc.: The Rise and Fall of the Jewish Mafia and an Ill-Fated Prizefighter
We both went to P.S. 396,...He's a couple years older than me, so I wasn't a friend of his or anything. He was a loner. Actually, all I remember about him is that he was big for his age and that he always had a bag of cookies with him.
--Riddick Bowe speaking of Mike TysonBrownsville "never promised you anything. It was up to you to find your niche and make a life for yourself, to find your thing and grab it with both hands.
-- Eddie Mustafa Muhammad...Jacobs, 21, has not let any of that go to his head. He remains focused on honing his craft and building himself into a champion. Though he was born and raised in Brownsville, Jacobs doesn't have the same flash and swagger of other boxers who came from that neighborhood.
--Tim Smith
At one time, the section of Brooklyn known as Brownsville was one of New York City's most infamous slums. A lot of "famous" people came from here--Aaron Copland, Willie Randolph, Lloyd "World" Free, Nelson George, John Gotti and a whole lot of others. But when it comes to boxers, there must be something in the water that produce the greats who drank it, including Benny "Schoolboy" Friedkin, Al "Bummy" Davis, explosive Mike Tyson, troubled Riddick Bowe, Floyd Patterson, and Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, as well as combustible Zab Judah, Daniel Judah, Shannon Briggs, Junior Jones, Mark Breland, and now Curtis "Showtime" Stevens (21-3) and Daniel "The Golden Child" Jacobs (18-0). As an amateur, Jacobs won his fourth New York Daily News Golden Gloves Championship (one short of Breland's record). Yuri Foreman (28-0-0-1) recently won the WBA super welterweight title and it's possible he has been drinking the same Brooklyn water.Al "Bummy"Davis, who grew up in the then-predominantly Jewish Brownsville section, developed into a tough, street-smart young man, and became well-known in a neighborhood that was famed as the home of Murder Incorporated. He was a slugger with a lethal left hook and an old school record of 65-10-4 with 47 KO's. Named to Ring Magazine's list of 100 greatest punchers of all time, he was murdered in 1945 when he was drinking with his friends in Dudy's Bar in Brownsville and four armed robbers walked in. "Bummy" attacked the robbers, knocked one of them down, was shot three times, but still managed to chase the other three. During the pursuit, he was shot a fatal fourth time.
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Ted Sares
Kid Blast
The Bull
The Midnight Rambler
You’ve got more nicknames than Apollo Creed…
(For those that don’t get the ref, have a look at Rocky IV, and the ring introductions leading up to the Creed/Drago bout.. :) )
Just The Bull and Kid Blast. I never use my real name if I can help it. The The Midnight Rambler
has retired. Though I am truly a Master of Disaster
Pray for Nick Charles
There's More !!!
Right Ted …don’t forget the Rouge.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 3, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Pleasure as always to spend a little time in the club, Ted, although I was more in a bourbon mood, so I brought a bottle of Bullitt along, the only excellent Kentucky straight that doubles as a nice Steve McQueen movie.
Beibut impressed me some last fight against Uze, but much as I admire his desire to unify titles, it doesn’t mean terribly much to me until he properly earns his own by rematching and actually beating Campillo. In the short term, boxing needs the de facto 140 tourney (Bradley-Alexander, Khan-Maidana, winners face off), a good finish to the Super Six followed by some good fights from those guys against Pascal and Bute, and, yeah, eventually, Pac-May. Boxing isn’t dead, but like Dylan (sorta) sung in “Idiot Wind,” sometimes it’s so stupid, it’s a wonder it knows how to breathe.
The bourbon is actually Bulleitt. Featured in Deadwood!
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Sep 2, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I shouldn’t say featured — the bottle was visible a couple times early on. The only featured bourbon on the show was Basil Hayden’s, Francis Wolcott’s drink of choice.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Sep 2, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I got put onto it at one of the last great East Coast smoke and drink joints (The Owl Shop in New Haven, CT, which only in the last few years installed a bar to its cigar smoke-filled room), but I’m happy to hear it reached Deadwood cool at some point too. And now I’m craving a drink at 11:30 a.m…yikes.
Bourbon is the only thing I drink anymore. I usually just stick with Maker’s Mark for budgetary concerns (and it never lets me down), but anything that level or higher I love to try. Bulleitt I liked, Basil Hayden’s I liked but it’s the crappy end of the high-end stuff from the Beam distillery, behind Booker’s and Baker’s. Eventually I’m gonna buy that $300 bottle of Pappy Van Winkle sometime.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Sep 2, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
TRUST ME
The 15 year Pappy is much better than the 23 year. Pappy 15 is only about $80 a bottle, but it’s impossible to find. They only release a batch of it once a year, and usually it gets snatched up on pre-order. That said, I found a bottle for the first time in 3 years recently, so if you’re ever in the New York area, we can talk boxing over a glass.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Offer's open to you as well Ted
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I had the 15 year recently and absolutely loved it. The liquor store I frequent here has a tremendous selection of good bourbons. I got Noah’s Mill on the same trip and it definitely didn’t wow me. Elmer T. Lee was another I tried around the same time, and it was cheaper and better than Noah’s Mill. About on the Bulleitt/Maker’s Mark/Henry McKenna Single Barrel level.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Also
If you see it, Old Pogue is in the same price range as Booker’s and Baker’s but is much better.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
here’s to an internet Bert Sugar (but much cooler and less cliched in my opinion. great article :)
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Sep 2, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
On 7) I’d like to think I wouldn’t go even if fully comp’d, tempting though it would obviously be….
on 1) How does Marcos Maidana make it/remain a heartbeat away from the top 12 after as sloppy a performance as he put up in his last fight? I look forward to, rather than slightly dread, a Khan fight now….and then hopefully he can make it up there :)
2) good nickname, that….
6) I saw Holyfield in an interview the other day. That is really so sad that he still gets to box. He must be passing the tests, but still. I find it incredible that no-one can talk sense into him and people still pay to see him fight. Thats going to be RJJ in a few years.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
ps
I actually enter the club before the conversations have all ended this time :)
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Cheap whiskey
suits me just fine….. I drink plenty of “Ten High” and “Kentucky Gentleman” on a fairly regular basis…….. It’s Bourbon and it is 80 proof, so it takes me where I wish to go at night……..
Fact:
Bourbon whiskey comes from Bourbon County, Kentucky….. No where else…….
Sour Mash hails from Tennessee…… See Jack Daniel’s……… ’Tis not Bourbon……….
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
1) I have to agree with Brian on Alexander. Also, after beating Calderon, does Giovani Segura get a whiff? Or how about Fernando Montiel, who’s a unified titlist in his third weight class and hasn’t officially lost since 2006?
2) I’ll have to look into him.Nice finding the sleepers
3) I’m still loving Zack Page. Fought twice in August, both in his opponent’s backyards, beating the Clones Collossus and losing a shutout to Juan Carlos Gomez. Speaking of McBride, he’ll be in the next heavyweight Prizefighter, which can’t end well.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Speaking of McBride, he’ll be in the next heavyweight Prizefighter, which can’t end well.
Oof. Hopefully that goes the way of Wayne McCullough’s entry into Prizefighter and just doesn’t happen.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
good God. That's a shame.
Speaking of McBride, he’ll be in the next heavyweight Prizefighter, which can’t end well.
Pray for Nick Charles
A glass of Higland Park would do me just fine.
Great Club Ted in particular liked the excerpt from Planet Boxing. Pac-Marg fight I can understand the temptation to go down there – would I be tempted – sure if someone offered to pay – I’d probably go. Not sure I can say I’ve moved on 100% yet – unless you’re offering Ted ?
ATTN!
I know these articles tend to get bumped off the FP fairly quickly in fast news cycles like the one we’re in now, so I wanted everyone to know that all of Ted’s articles are “featured” quickly and you can find them easily on the right sidebar of the front page, right under the staff listing. That way you don’t have to cycle through pages at the bottom.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Ted, Does the name Kelly Pavlik change the way you feel about Dallas?
I am hearing that KP might very well show up on the undercard against a yet to be named opponent. And I do know from all that have been there that this Stadium is the bomb.
Show up. Drinks on me.
good guess.
I’m sure the idea is first to just get him out of the house….and back up on the proverbial horse. They can worry about real opponents.
PACQUIAO & OLIVERA
Pacquiao is number 1 pound per pound. I would like to see him fight Mayweather but his record stands on its own merit without Floyd Mayweather. Ray Olivera needs to stay away from boxing.I like Ray but he has already had one beating too many. Please Ray if you are reading this retire for good you have nothing to prove to your fans or any one else. Pray for Ray to get some sense into his head and retire for good.
I remember watching a fight with Olivera a couple years ago, and I remember that Olivera was getting beat so bad and so thouroughly embarrassed that he actually started crying in the ring while the fight was going on. And then he started complaining about a head injury during the crying moments. I think that may have been the beginning of the end for Olivera. That fight may have been the fight that messed him up. I believe it was against Emanuel “Burton” Augustus.
Great Read TY Ted
James Brown , possibly the most influential popular musician from the period 1960- 2010. Only Hendrix , The Velvet Underground and Big Youth comes close for mine . I’ve got the 1975 follow up to " The Payback" " Hell" funking outta my speakers in a 9 am tribute to the Godfather of Soul and Funk . Righteously funkatious. http://www.stoneandwood.com.au/beers.html Im shouting the club a round of the local brewery’s produce . The stone beer is a fine drop. Wish I could shout the lot of ya’s down at the Rails Hotel Byron Bay. Good beer , nubile Brazilian and scandinavian backpackers , good beer and good sounds. My top 12 p 4 p is in disarray lol 1. Manny Pac 2 . Floyd Mayweather 3. Wlad K 4. Vitali K 5. JMM Marquez 6. Andre Ward 7. Tim Bradley 8.Giovanni Segura 9. Sergio Martinez 10. J M M Lopez 11.Yurkis Gamboa 11. 12.Tomaz Adamek. As far as Teddy Atlas goes , I’m in no position to judge anything except his ability as a pundit , in that department he’s the " kiss of death" . Shumenov , ditto but I will say this , the bloke is in incredible shape . Margarito and his trainer are dogs but if Margo has done the time I have no probs with him being licensed. Hopefully Manny will punch lumps off him . Pretty incredible that three heavyweight champions came out of Brownsville , Floyd Patterson , Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe . I wonder if there will be a fourth or if that well has run dry . I’ve been taking notes on the fine Bourbons you blokes have been discussing . As a last point Holyfield , Jones , Hopkins and Toney are all risking permanent brain damage if they keep fighting on . ( exacerbating it in some cases) . Bloody shame . Cheers Ted , fellow Club visitors . Have a great one everyone .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Ward ahead of Bute....unbelievable JC !!!
Don’t tell me that Ward has faced the better fighters as the only top fighter that he’s faced is Kessler who Bute would ice in 6 rounds !!! AND Kessler was overlooking Ward and out of shape when he fought him too !!! Now Alan Green backed out from fighting Bute on numerous occasions and was almost KO’d by Donnire Mcrary who was a former sparring partner of Grenns live on TV more than a year after Bute had already KO’d McRary !!! Now Bute iced the granite chinned Andrade who Kessler couldn’t finish as well as Miranda who beat Green years ago too !!! No way should Ward be ahead of Bute in any rankings or PfP list IMO !!! Not yet anyways !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 3, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Shit I forgot Bute again Ghosty lmao
sack Gamboa and replace him with Bute mate .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Olivera fighting again
No.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Sorry for the typos JC...and how ya been Surf King.
I can’t get the question marks to work on this new computer !!! Gotta find a new girlfriend with a computer that can make the question mark signs !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 3, 2010 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Thanks Ghosty
Hope you’re gearing up for your winter mate , I heard it going to be a bit nippy.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Olivera Needs
to be wearing a protective helmet just to go outside—that awful Burton Augustus fight ending was deeply upsetting, thank god for Smoger.
This way. For what it's worth.
The Resto-Collins case hinged on evidence that was not tainted. The case was a criminal case that had certain evidentiary requirements. Margo’s situation was not a criminal case and the evidence requirements were less strict. More importantly, however, the chain of evidence in the Margo-Mosley case was broken and trampled upon. That’s where I make the distinction between the two.
Pray for Nick Charles
Pacquiao will beat Margarito
Pacquiao will beat Margarito by the late stoppage. Margarito is not fast enough to hit Pacquiao with the set of punch. However, he won’t be a punching bag for Pacquiao in this fight, I believe. Margarito has physical advantages.
3K Battery shouldn't be allowed to continue that trend !!!
I seen the same thing go on in Hockey and in Prison !!! Guys who only fight you in Hockey after you have already fought once or twice and are hurt and or tired !!! And in Prison after you’ve just gotten out of the hole and are unourished,weak,hurt,and reluctant to fight so they can get the jump on you !!! It makes me sick and it is the sign of a coward to pick your spots like that !!! Against the real man and warriors code !!! I smash losers like that all the time !!! Makes me angry to say the least !!! I gotta go and cool down now after reading about that punkass Mayweather and now 3K Battery too !!! Good club and thread though !!! I’ll check back tomorrow.Peace !!! 3K Battery and Frad ayrunner are what ails Boxing !!! Dana White and the UFC wouldn’t stand for that crap !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 3, 2010 6:26 AM EDT reply actions
I am a little new here and this club seems like a really good idea. Not sure I would place Bute in any P4P list. Regards to the writer.
Well, he delivers and you can't make any mistakes with him or he will take you out upstairs or downstairs with either hand.
His body shots are laser-like. I think he would win the Super Six tourney. I also think he is better than Ward. But who would I puit in there if not Lucien?
Pray for Nick Charles
KP is not the man/beast we all hoped he would be. His best days are already over. Staph infection my butt.
Welome FORZA. This is agreat site for BOXING without the hate and foulness that you can sometimes experience from other sites. These guys know thier stuff.
As for Pavlik, He is yesterday’s news. The fact he still lives in Youngstown tells the entire story.
Pray for Nick Charles
Earl is blowing upward on the coast
and Raleigh is still dry……. A little gray and cloudy, but not too much rain…….. I just want the goddamn weather to change and the temps to drop……. The summer sucks hard in the south…… I’ll take spring and fall over the friggin’ summer…… Screw this 90+ heat and humidity bullcrap for three whole months………. I like my days set at 70 degrees and my nights in the mid to high 50s…….. WORD!
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
San Diego is surrounded by California.
In a vaguely and somewhat tenuously way similar to how Austin is surrounded by Tex-ass.
Or Athens by Georgia.
Attleboro by Massachusetts.
Me by human beings.

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