Derek Chisora could land fight with Wladimir Klitschko
by Scott Christ on Sep 24, 2010 7:17 AM EDT
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A report from the Daily Mail in the UK says that British and Commonwealth heavyweight titleholder Derek Chisora has been offered a fight with Wladimir Klitschko for December 11.
For Chisora (14-0, 9 KO) it would be an utterly enormous step up in class from the likes of Sam Sexton or a blown-up, retirement-ready Danny Williams. Chisora has improved a lot in the last year, but he's still way, way off of Klitschko's level. The fight is, on paper, a mismatch, and there's simply no getting around that.
But Chisora does have heart, some power, and a useful arrogance about him. It would also be sort of humorous to have the British titlist step up and face Wladimir Klitschko, something WBA titleholder David Haye of Britain has refused to do in favor of fighting domestic veteran and pro flop Audley Harrison on November 13. To upstage the Haye-Harrison fight a month later would be something of a statement on plenty of things, not the least of which would be shining a light once more on Haye's ducking of the Klitschko brothers.
But how about the fight itself? Chisora's last fight on September 18 went into the ninth round, the first time he'd ever been past eight rounds in his short professional career, so stamina could be a huge issue, but then that would be expecting stamina to come into play. Chisora is still rather raw and limited, and Wladimir Klitschko is as polished, powerful and accomplished as they come. Chisora would have almost no chance of beating Klitschko on paper, but then who would? I'm not saying my heavyweight top ten is the gospel, but look at this list:
- Wladimir Klitschko: He can't fight himself.
- Vitali Klitschko: He can't fight his brother.
- David Haye: He can't fight a guy who won't fight him.
- Tomasz Adamek: Adamek's taking a weak fight against Vinny Maddalone on December 9, but he seems to be building to fighting a Klitschko next year. For now, he gets a pass.
- Alexander Povetkin: Povetkin has twice backed out of signed fights with Wladimir.
- Eddie Chambers: Already beat him.
- Tony Thompson: Already beat him.
- Ruslan Chagaev: Already beat him.
- Cristobal Arreola: Injured, plus Vitali already beat him and Arreola has not improved his standing since then to say the least.
- Odlanier Solis: It'd be nice, but it won't happen.
I suspect if Nikolai Valuev were healthy, the allegedly long-awaited Wladimir-Valuev fight would go down "finally," but he's not, so that's not an option either. What then? Evander Holyfield is almost 50 and only the morbidly curious would want to see the undersized, old "Real Deal" get his face smashed in by a rocket right hand from Wladimir. James Toney might talk a big game about the "Klitschko sisters," and he's probably still at his most marketable coming off of his UFC 118 farce, but let me hazard a guess and say that Toney doesn't really want anything to do with Wladimir, and I'll say it's easy to talk big game about guys who see you as a non-entity and have no interest in fighting you. Jean Marc Mormeck has apparently refused to fight Wladimir, thank God (and Mormeck).
That leaves you with the likes of Derek Chisora. There's really nobody else any better.
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Not a fan of Chisora personally. I’ve only seen him in one interview many moons ago before a Tyson Fury fight, and he honestly sounded like he wasn’t that keen on the gig and really didn’t come across as that confident. If he’s willing to step up to the plate, then fair play to him but I suspect he’ll decide that infinitely easier pickings are to be found elsewhere, or that the offer wasn’t high enough (which you couldn’t blame him for, really…) There might well also be more money in it for him if he went and knocked off Fury and then provided Haye with another ‘Battle of Britain’ so he can keep not fighting a Klitschko.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Good Points there BB
about the Hayefaker and Fury v Chisora.
I read Del Boy likes to deal luxury cars as a side line too so maybe he hasn’t got full commitment to boxing at the moment,as you alluded to.
I am starting to rate him more and more with every fight though and where at first i just thought he was destined for Euro level,i can now see him eventually being good enough to challenge for a belt (in a Danny Williams fashion)in this poor era(once the Klits have retired).He has good power and suprisingly(to me) seems to have heart (relatively speaking).
I agree though,i’m no fan at all of his “personality”
It’s obviously way too soon for Chisora.
On a side note Boxing News are saying Warren’s 30th Anniversary as a promoter show on this same date will “blow the Magnificent Seven out of the water”.
I can see it being the lead up to Khan v Maidana on Sky Box Office,if it happens,but i don’t see Klitschko fighting on a Warren show.
Also they would surely have to put the PPV price up to accomodate a M7 type show plus Khan.
Just remebered
Khan was on ITV for his last fight with Malignaggi,i think, so maybe he will do the Maidana fight through them again and Warren will run his show earlier in the same day on SBO.
Whatever,november and december are looking stacked full of fights,which is nice.
Even though we are missing a couple of the biggest fights there are still plenty of top bouts lined up.
by Matt Mosley on Sep 24, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Continuing my conversation with myself
and just musing out loud but i’m trying to imagine the line up for another big FW show in the UK on Dec 11.
James DeGale is already listed on Boxrec for that date but no opponent as yet.That one will surely be against Paul Smith.
Maybe the card could look something like this:
1/ Nathan Cleverly v Juergen Braehmer – WBO 175lb title (if Braehmer doesn’t get sent to prison first – i’m not sure of the situation with JB,maybe vacant tile fight for Clev?)
2/ Kell Brook v WBO top contender (if/when Manny vacates).
3/ Matt Macklin v Darren Barker – European title (or a title fight for Macklin).
4/ Lucas Konecny v Ryan Rhodes – European title.
5/ Paul Smith v James DeGale – British title.
6/ Frankie Gavin v ?
interrupting the monologue :)
Smith v DeGale would be a cracker, worthy of higher billing?! Would love them to make that one.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Haha
I see it as being a bit one sided to DeGale to be honest and i’m not at all sure that this card will happen.It was in the editor’s notes in this week’s BN though so he must have spoke to Warren about another big show.
I think it might be better limiting it to 5,maybe six fights next time though as the Mag 7 was a bit enduring,imo (like these posts of mine :)
You sure Smith would be ready for action that quickly?
He’s fighting in mid-October, IIRC
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Good point
i realised that after i had posted.
I wonder if they might pull that Paul David fight though if Warren could agree terms with Smith.
If I remember correctly
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2/ Kell Brook v WBO top contender (if/when Manny vacates).
Here are the current hilarious WBO rankings at welterweight:
Titleholder: Manny Pacquiao
1. Kell Brook
2. Mike Jones
Busy on 11/13.
3. Saul Alvarez
Not a chance.
4. Vitaliy Demyanenko
?
5. Joshua Clottey
Up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
6. Diego Chaves
7. Bethel Ushona
?
8. Alfonso Gomez
Busy on 12/4.
9. Michael Jennings
10. Krzysztof Bienias
Brook has already beaten both of them.
11. Samuel Columban
?
12. Rafal Jackiewicz
13. Shawn Porter
Porter has never made 147 pounds as a pro, though it is where he’ll be fighting. (And he was just .75 pounds over last time.)
14. Valeriy Brazhnik
15. Jesus Pabon
I barely know Pabon. Brazhnik, no clue. I watch a shit ton of boxing and I really have no clue who 1/3 of the WBO’s top 15 contenders are at 147.
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by Scott Christ on Sep 25, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha
I know it won’t happen on that date but i would like to see Brook v Mike Jones.
Two potential rising stars though.Might be kept apart.
Demyanenko is with K2
But I know little about him other than that. The Klits have done pretty well in getting their fringy guys in line for title shots.
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Taking it one further
He needs to fight someone in the IBF or WBO top 15, or he’ll get stripped, so here ’s the options:
IBF Top 15:
1. Not rated
2. Not rated
3. Adamek
4. Boytsov – Coming off of surgery, and his team is likely looking for an easy touch after a year off
5. Chambers
6. Peter – just whooped him
7. Chagaev
8. Arreola
9. Dimitrenko – Has a fight scheduled
10. Mormeck – He actually tried Mormeck first, but was too expensive
11. Banks – Wlad promotes him and no better than Chisora
12. Povetkin
13. Solis – Has a fight scheduled for October, and seems content to just work his way up to mandatory to get a bigger cut when he gets there
14. Derric Rossy – Would have no shot at winning
15. Maurice Harris – a journeyman
WBO top 15:
1. Adamek
2. Tua – Was lucky to just get a draw with shot to shit Monte Barrett
3. Povetkin
4. Boytsov
5. Chagaev
6. Peter
7. Valuev
8. Solis
9. Dimitrenko
10. Chauncey Welliver – No better than Chisora
11. Arreola
12. Gonzalo Omar Basile – Argentine journeyman has lost every time he’s stepped up
13. Chisora
14. Alex Leapai – Would get murdered; a step down from Chisora
15. Robert Helenius – Probably the best of the bunch, but he’s just as green, and I doubt his team wants him to step up to that level just yet.
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Tua is ranked #2 by the WBO.
I just threw up in my soul a little.
by Verklemptomaniac on Sep 24, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He's still better than Audley, and most UK boxing fans know it
But I think he’s just looking for something decent to stay busy that won’t break the bank. He tried Mormeck first, Mormeck tried to take too much. The only other really legitimate option is Dimitrenko, who I’m sure would back out of his European title fight in a second if he gets a decent offer to fight a Klitschko, but honestly I don’t think he’s as good as Chisora, even if Chisora is green. I doubt Solis or Helenius go there yet – both of them could use more seasoning, and might actually have a chance of winning in a year or two, assuming Wlad starts to slow down a bit and they continue to improve.
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I like
Wlad v Chisora even less than Haye v Aud but if they have to do it lets at least see the winners face each other (Wlad v Haye) and the losers (Aud v Chiso) afterwards.
by Matt Mosley on Sep 24, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
OT
But is anyone else having trouble staying logged in to this site? It’s making me log on every time I come here. Not having the problem at the other SBN sites.
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Yes.
Not logging me off every time, but every so often.
by Verklemptomaniac on Sep 24, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank You for Mentioning This
I’t snot logging me off, but it’s slow and weird. I thought it was my computer.
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I like Rossy
I really do, but he’d get KILLED by Klitschko. Heck, I question whether Rossy would get by someone like Dimitrenko at this point, or Welliver. Rossy and Welliver both fall into that category of good guys who I’d like to see get a payday, but who I don’t want to see fighting a Klitschko.
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Never heard of
Chisora before… It kinda’ sounds to me like it’d be best if Wlad Klit didn’t fight or even attempt to defend the titles in December… This is the worst since 1929….
The K-brothers have just about cleaned out the entire house…. All the new kids on the block who are supposedly moving up the ladder are too green to be taken seriously……
Let’s go with “Klit-Briggs” and I’ll choke on the rest of the lot later on……
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I wish that
Odlainer Solis would grow some balls and sign up and face either K-brother, but it appears to me team Solis are a buncha’ strokers looking to milk the wanker cow from here ’til doomsday…
And I still don’t know what this Denny Bosytov or whatever the hell his name is can do, either…..
Just total wankership going on here and I don’t like it…….
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Haye
is the biggest joke of all the pretenders but i agree Solis is the next best challenge out there,along with Tommy Adamek.
Though
i don’t give either of them much chance against either bro.
I would give Haye the best chance and that is honestly not blind patriotism.I think he’s got the speed,power and most importantly,the ability.
Unfortunately he doesn’t seem to have the balls.
Matt
Agreed mate .
IMO Haye has the best chance of any of contenders at beating Klit(s) but the endless failure to get the fight on over , it seems , a few quid must even have the Haye faithful thinking he’s full of shit .
I live in hope that Haye does actually get to fight a Klit ( at least one that hasn’t got to be pushed into the ring in a wheel chair ) and I hope when / if that happens Haye wins . The division could do with a good shake up .
Audley / Haye will be a good laugh though . If Audley wins ..shit I don’t know wether I’d laugh or cry . I’d probably cry laughing .
Chisora / Wlad just about sums up the division . It’s shit and getting shitter by the day it seems .
Disarm you with a smile ....
by Sir Jack Daniels on Sep 24, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Haye v Aud – Cry laughing at an Audley win……Good prediction…Me too!
It would be hilarious and disappointing at the same time,for sure.
Haye is really starting to get annoying and classless with his talk though and it would be amusing to see him take a fall,imo.
I know one thing,i won’t be paying for it..Definitely a free replay fight this one,for me.
Perfect Matchup
Wladdy loves to hug and Del Boy kisses boys like a prom queen working the dollar smooch booth at the county fair. Hell, why not schedule it for February 14 in Brisbane and bill it as the “Lover’s Quarrel near the Coral”? It’ll be fabulous!
by Junkballpitcher on Sep 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
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