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Super Six: DiBella says Glen Johnson could be in the mix

Glen Johnson would be a surprising pick to enter the Super Six World Boxing Classic. (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)

In a surprising bit of news, promoter Lou DiBella tells Rick Reeno of BoxingScene.com that Glen Johnson has entered the discussion to replace Mikkel Kessler in stage three of the Super Six World Boxing Classic.

Reeno also says that Sakio Bika has officially turned down the chance to replace Kessler and fight Allan Green for "personal reasons."

Johnson is a surprise for obvious reasons to many, I'm assuming, but let's first look at what makes sense about it. For one thing, he's a good fighter still, recently going the distance in a tough, grueling fight with Tavoris Cloud, which Cloud won narrowly on the scorecards. For another thing, he's never had any issue about fighting anyone, really. He's taken on the best for years. The biggest thing that would make him ideal is that he's promoted by DiBella, who also promotes Green. That means that DiBella could have an easy time making a Green-Johnson fight. Another promoter isn't dragged into the Super Six, which has already started to spiral a little bit, no matter what PR spin anyone wants to put on it.

The sticking point is weight. Johnson has been fighting at 175 full-time since July 2001, when he went up in weight and knocked out Thomas Ulrich. He hasn't made the 168-pound limit since September 2000. That's ten years. Johnson is now 41 years old, and no matter how much praise he gets for always being in shape, the truth is he's been a bit sluggish of late at 175. He and Cloud cut a good pace, but that pace fairly well drained Johnson by the end of the fight. Not to mention, Johnson has been hitting the limit fine on the scales, coming in at 173½, 173¼ and 173 for his last three fights, but he's also ballooned in weight overnight, coming in around or a bit above 190 on fight night.

DiBella says Johnson believes he wouldn't have trouble cutting down to 168, but realistically there's almost no way a 41-year-old fighter doesn't have trouble cutting to a weight he hasn't made in a decade. There has been talk of Johnson moving up to cruiserweight following his last two defeats to Cloud and Chad Dawson, and if he's going to change division, up is the way to go, not down.

Making the whole thing even more tough to believe is that Green also had trouble making 168 for his fight with Andre Ward, it was reported, and he was considering a move up to 175. They'd be scheduling a super middleweight fight between a guy who hasn't made the weight in 10 years and a guy who just had difficulty getting there, or at least said he had some trouble.

If the fight is made, it may wind up on the November 6 card headlined in Las Vegas by Juan Manuel Lopez-Rafael Marquez. Showtime would be in something of a desperate position trying to find room for the fight in the remainder of 2010, and putting the two DiBella fighters on a card headlined by a Top Rank fighter and a Gary Shaw fighter is about the only option they really have, other than sending them both to Montreal as part of their December 18 PPV event main evented by Jean Pascal (GYM) and Bernard Hopkins (Golden Boy), and paying to see a portion of the Super Six, which has been free so far, would probably not sit well with many people, especially considering it's two replacements in the tournament.

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I would welcome this development if the old man can make weight.

And maybe even at a catchweight. The purist in me hates catchweights, but at the same time, I would so much rather see Johnson fight than the other names that have been floated around recently.

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by Matt Miller on Sep 27, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

It couldn’t be at a catchweight above 168 – that would really defeat the point of it being a Super Middleweight tournament, if two of the fighters subsequently don’t fight at or beneath the set weight limit. However, I’ve also got no problem with Glen being in there, and – provided he’s not too far gone – I can see him pinning Green back with sheer volume, and overwhelming him on the way to a decision. Of course, that’s totally dependent on him not being knackered from making weight – but at least this fight is quite interesting.

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by Oli Goldstein on Sep 28, 2010 2:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I feel the same way

At first I felt relief, thinking that this mess could be fixed, and I’m not gonna lie I’ve been a fan of his for a while now (grandpa can still bang with the best!), but then I quickly realized this could never work. It could very well be duct-taped into the super six as a take-it-or-leave-it scenario, but the logistics just dont fit the bill: This is a SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT tourney, light heavies or middleweights can join in, why not, but you have to make weight. I think I stand a chance of making 168 more than Johnson by then, and I’m 5’5" weighing 140 right now X-D. And I would much rather watch him take Green down a notch then let Green slide in by some other pieced-together solution . . . On second thought, let him replace Green. Problem solved

by Mo Christo on Sep 28, 2010 3:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Why not? He would take out Green IMO

BUT HE HAS TO BE IN SHAPE.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Sep 28, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

JOHNSON

Johnson always comes in the ring prepared to make a maximum effort. Making the weight will be difficult for him, but is he does it right he can make it. Glenn is a true warrior and can be depended on to put up a good fight.

by Tex Hassler on Sep 28, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a Bad Idea at All

weight being presumed doable. Glen Johnson’s a really good fighter who deserves the cash, cachet and camera time of something like this. He’s been in condition for every fight for the last two yrs., at least, no reason to expect otherwise.

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by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The Super Six should have dropped Green and become the Fantastic Four. No one needs a Green v Johnson fight.

by ocelot on Sep 28, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

True

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Sep 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not A Good Idea !!! If they can't do it right then don't do it at all !!!

Hells I’m a huge Glen Johnson fan but this idea is absurd !!! What has Glen Johnson ever done at SuperMiddleWeight to deserve this shot ? this is what ails Boxing !!! So fighters who have been campagning at SuperMiddleweight for the last few years and have decent records get bumped aside for fighters with big named Promoters ? Come on Folks !!! Damn Alan Green is undeserving of being in this tournament yet he got in and a title shot as well as a payday to boot !!! Now GJ who has done squat in this division and has had more than his fair chances at the belt ( including his robbery against Chad Dawson ) gets a shot too ? Give me a break !!! If you can’t do it right and by that I mean without the bullshit and politics then don’t do it at all !!! Glen Johnson should get a shot at his revenge against Hopkins who got his chance against RJJ.GJ should not be in this tournament !!! If he is owed anything then this is not the place for him to get his comeupance !!!

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by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 28, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think this is a good idea

Simply put; Glen could probably make the weight, but would come no where near to making it comfortably. I have no interest in watching a totally drained Johnson get his ass handed to him in a one – sided beatdown.

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Sep 28, 2010 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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