Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s Idiotic Rant Shows Insecurity, Ignorance
by Scott Christ on Sep 3, 2010 1:54 AM EDT
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PrintThis is not safe for work because of language, and I'll also say if you've got headphones on, turn them down first and work your way up from there. Sound quality is terrible.
"Once I kick the midget ass, I don't want y'all to jump on my d**k. ... Once I stomp the midget, I'm gonna make that motherf***er make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice. ... Rice with a little bit of cat, rice with a little bit of barbecued dog..."
And it basically devolves from there.
This is really the first time Mayweather has talked in a while, and holy hell, could he have not come off worse. "Money" sounds insecure, at a loss for anything intelligent to say, childish, and ignorant. This is a complete waste of time. There is good trash talking, stuff that drives interest in a fight, and then there is "trash talk" that just makes you seem like a stupid 13-year-old trapped in a millionaire 33-year-old man's body. This is the latter. Mayweather has driven zero interest in a fight with his moronic ranting in this video.
Pretty "Madison Avenue," huh?
You stay classy, "Pretty Boy."
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couple things
i hope you werent thinking that when i posted this i was agreeing or advocating this in any way, i wasnt. i just wanted this to be brought to everybody’s attention.
also, we knew floyd is a vulgar guy. and like i said i am in now way agreeing with his rant or saying its ok to say the things he said, i am not at all surprised. ustream has been bad for a lot of celebrities in recent time, athletes included. its too intimate for these guys. their public persona matters too much, and while floyd has played villain in the past this taking it too far even for him. while this may actually be how he is behind close doors, he should have filtered this out.
race is always prevalent in sports, especially in an international sport like boxing where race is a lot of times part of the marketing and promotion. but theres a difference between “playing the race card” (which i thought don king did in a nice subtle way in his comments about him and floyd) and just plain being racist.
long story short… floyd is an idiot..
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
i hope you werent thinking that when i posted this i was agreeing or advocating this in any way, i wasnt. i just wanted this to be brought to everybody’s attention.
No, I know — I just wanted to get it front paged, syndicated, etc.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Floyd just smack talked himself into a lower bracket or completely out of future endorsements.
He should text Tiger if he wants more info on how to use technology and media to undermine your value. The difference is between those two huge btw. Tiger will know how much less he is making and what is no longer his. Floyd won’t ever know how valuable his brand might have been. Sponsors don’t call you and tell you how much they wish they could pay you for your name. The simply just don’t call.
what an ass
Texans 19-0 in 2010-2011 season PERIOD
by battle axe of doom on Sep 3, 2010 2:19 AM EDT reply actions
This is plainly moronic.
What an embarrassment.
"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"
I love boxing usually.
I admire the skilled boxers.
I love to watch a real doozy of a tear up.
I like to see boxers embrace out of respect after a good scrap.
I like the humble boxers too,
There is nothing I like about this guy.
How can anyone look up to him with admiration?
by Phill on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The worst part of this whole thing is Floyd is encouraged
to speak this way, because it brings him some notoriety. And for a guy like him, who plays (maybe) the heel so rabidly, any press is good press.
I know none of these guys are saints, but if a guy in another major sport had this tape come out, there would be massive repercussions. For Floyd? It probably bumps his bottom line at the end of the year up by a tick or two.
There’s good trash talk (see: Chael Sonnen), then there’s this filth that most of us would get fired for saying in a public forum.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
You did catch the whole “demo effigy” thing from Sonnen, right? I don’t know if he’s really on the other end of the spectrum.
But as far as this goes, I’m not at all surprised to hear those sorts of things from Mayweather. It’s a complete shame though.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 3, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
*demon effigy
One day, I will learn to hit all my keystrokes and eat all my vegetables.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 3, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I do consider all the stuff I heard, and all the stuff there is video circulating sites
on the internet documenting the material I know Sonnen said leading up to that fight to be on the other end of the spectrum. He did what you do: he trash talked. Was it 100% clean? Of course not. Was it vulgar? Not really. Was it demeaning? Of course. Were there statement about culture that were offensive? You bet.
If it didn’t contain those components, it wouldn’t be trash talk, would it? Within trash talk there are lines you cross and lines you don’t. Part of the difference is that the closer Chael got to his fight, the cleaner and more focused his rhetoric became. The opposite appears to be true for Mayweather.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
I feel like Sonnen had to clean some of the talk up after getting caught in lying about Twitter accounts and everything else.
I see your point of view, although, in using it, I’m not sure where we can say the bright line between offensive and otherwise lies.
Creating racial/cultural binaries is inherently problematic in any case. But even if we ignore that fact – as we so often have to when dealing with the fight game – even a vague understanding of history would probably lead most people to say that directing language about demon effigies and tribal savages toward South Americans is going to offend them just the same as Mayweather’s comments would offend someone who is Asian. If the language of colonization has really been cheapened that much in contemporary society though, then I suppose we are a people of short memory.
Also, Mayweather’s confused understanding of food staples is pretty well on par with Sonnen’s assertion that Brazilians speak Spanish.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sushi
At first my association of sushi with Japan being bone deep, I couldn’t figure out why it was racist—obnoxious, yes, but what’s Japan got to do with it? then I realized, he really doesn’t know, they’re just all Asian to him. Yeesh.
I’ve tried to block out Mayweather-Pacquiao so much at this point that I spent about twenty seconds trying to figure out just who this mystery Japanese boxer he was trying to go in on was. Then it all came back to me.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 3, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You're never going to find a 'bright line' marking the
“OK” and “Not OK” sides of the ammo pile. It’s a necessarily ugly topic, with accordingly ugly material. I’m getting into hairy area here, but I’m trying to demonstrate the point as clearly as I can.
For Floyd to say those things, and not have the media call him on it, is a two-fold problem. Firstly, it’s a problem because every minority group in the USA is supposed to be protected, or at least publicly shielded from comments like his that are directed at them. Politicians, media and other high-profile individuals jump to defend minority groups from statements like this, and demand apologies whenever these types of statements come up, directed at a minority group.
The second problem is in the core of the social group that Mayweather is speaking to. People comporting themselves in this manner have an infectious effect on those who listen to them or idolize them. They hear Floyd say things like this, and they assume that they’re auto-cool, rather than decrying them for the filth they are and demanding he apologize. This directly undermines the entire ‘do unto others’ approach which is one of the few successful ethos for lifting public decency.
I understand we’re always willing to look the other way when someone in our ‘own’ group crosses a line somewhere, but for guys like Floyd the standards should be just that: standards. He shouldn’t be allowed to get away with this just because he is a member of a minority group, and I think until the social pendulum lands on that realization, you’re going to continue having these types of statements being made by high-profile people hoping to garner some attention.
The fact that Manny isn’t American shouldn’t matter here. The public outcry should be the same, if the social standards are to be upheld. My chief complaint with the whole situation is that it doesn’t appear there are any standards at all. I agree with the idea that we shouldn’t sling mud like this at people in a public forum, and that people who do it should be punished in a way that affects them.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Well, it seems that we agree on most everything and just take slightly different views on Sonnen.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 3, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is ok.
I’ll admit that I’m a follower, and have been ever since I saw the body of his best work compiled in the months leading up to the Silva fight. So I’m biased, for sure.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Lost Money x 2
Money is personally lost , and he’s going to lose big money on this. Kiss Reebok-style windfalls goodbye. Eat s**t served by HBO. Don’t expect Verizon to call. He’s not getting a pass on this—he just thinks he is.
Reposted....from above
Floyd just smack talked himself into a lower bracket or completely out of future endorsements.
He should text Tiger if he wants more info on how to use technology and media to undermine your value. The difference is between those two huge btw. Tiger will know how much less he is making and what is no longer his. Floyd won’t ever know how valuable his brand might have been. Sponsors don’t call you and tell you how much they wish they could pay you for your name. The simply just don’t call.
Confirmation
of why I choose to ignore that loud mouth idiot !!! I never listened to the interview as I don’t give a crap what he has to say !!! Don’t like him as a person or a fighter so I’ll continue to ignore his punk ass !!! You want respect son then show some respect first !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 3, 2010 5:56 AM EDT reply actions
I'll second that. When you think of guys like Louis, Marciano, Wlacott, Chuvalo, Quarry, Shavers, Wrd, Gatti, and so many
others who showed nothing but respect in there, this kind of thing just makes me wince.
Pray for Nick Charles
AND
were I Manny I would NEVER fight Floyd cause in 20 years when they are talkin about the greatest fighter of the 2000’s it won’t be Floyd that they’re talking about !!! If Manny fights Floyd and loses then all his success will transfer to Mayweather and everyone will say that Floyd could have beaten the fighters that Manny did having never risked anything !!! BUT that said should the fight never happen which is what I hope for then Floyd is forgotten having barely fought the best when they were the best !!! It’s a no win for the Pacman !!! Move on Manny and let Floyd earn his greatness cause age is catching up with him and he’s near the end !!! No fighter escapes Father Time who catches up to all fighters greatest or not !!!
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Sep 3, 2010 6:06 AM EDT reply actions
That's Mayweather
I hope he and MP Fight Next Year. I Woud’t doubt it if Bradley Wins, Floyd will fight him Next.
Stolen Thunder??
Looks as if ‘lil Floyd is reacting to the announced Pac-Margo fight, the thought of Manny fighting in front of 65-70,000 screaming fans is more than he can tolerate, thus a typical Mayweather responce. Does he have an ounce of class, well he did have quite the negative role models in his life but c’mon Floyd, this talk of dining on cats and dogs…WTF? It won’t happen, BUT, Floyd owes an apology for this despicable rant.
Yeah, I’m not a prude or one to demand public apologies, but this is unbearably stupid. Like said earlier, if this was an NFL player, you better believe they’d be punished by the league.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I Agree
If and thats a Big If. Manny Beats Margarito it will make Floyd Look Bad, cause MP is fighting guys Like Cotto,Clottey and Maragrito. Even though 2 of three are Catchweights, those are guys Floyd Didn’t Fight. If MP Beats Margarito, Forget about MP vs Mayweather Fight.
Well Pacquiao still has the last laugh
Until Mayweather mans-up and decides to fight him, Pacquaio doesn’t need a response to this. Mayweather’s refusal to acknowledge Pacquaio’s challenge is his response.
This is no way to respond to Pacquaio’s comments saying that Mayweather needs him. Pacquaio stayed on the topic of boxing.
Until Mayweather signs the contract to fight Pacquaio, none of these comments matter.
If he wants to talk trash and dismiss Pacquaio, do it after you sign the contract to fight him. I wouldn’t have a problem with it then. Ali trash talked Frazier really bad for months leading up to their fight, but remember , it was after the fight was signed. Mayweather and Pacquaio have no agreement to fight and its mostly Mayweather’s fault why they do not have one. I still think Mayweather’s comments were a bit too much. And Mayweather as an African American Male should know how it feels to be stereotyped.
And I know Mayweather gets a lot of racial remarks thrown at him from a lot of Pacquaio fans, but hes supposed to be bigger than that and just brush it aside. Everytime I go on examiner.com theres nothing but racial hate towards Mayweather, you would’ve thought it was the KKK leaving comments down there it was so bad. On numerous sites I’ve seen Mayweather being called the “N” word, monkey, big lips, and other racial names by “Pacquaio Fans” not Pacquaio himself. I’ve never heard Pacquaio, himself say anything like that about Mayweather before, and probaly never will. But Pacquaio cannot controll his fan base and who his fans are and if they want to shout out racial slurs towards Mayweather. I think within a days time, after he realizes some of the stereotypes that he put on Pacqauio he should come to the realization that he was totally out of bounds with his comments and apologize to Pacquaio for his remarks.
I remember early in March when the first fight fell apart over drug testing Pacqauio was saying that he wanted an apology from Mayweather for linking him to steroids. I didn’t feel that that situation warranted an apology. But this situation definetly does. But knowing Mayweather’s ego, that probaly wont allow him to do it in a timely fashion. He probaly realized that he shouldn’t have done what he did probaly 30 minutes after he did it, but like I said, his ego probaly wont allow him to suck in his pride and apologize. ….Maybe 10 years from now when both guys are retired and sitting with Bert Sugar, Al Bernstein, Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant looking over old boxing footage he’ll do it.
Well,
Worse than expected, and not much was expected. IMO, a chemical emotional imbalance can be triggered from within without blame to an over-adrenaled, or over-testosteroned or whatever health-compromised person, as well as deliberately taken. With that in mind, is it me? Or is this guy, as suspicious as he is about drugs, HIGH? Because he sure to god looks high to me. And 23 yrs in the West Village + 15 yrs in Holyoke, Mass. (dealing with the public in both places at times) have equipped me in plenty for knowing high when I see it. Not saying it’s deliberate, just saying how it looks to me. I always try to like him, never think of him as psycho, but that’s how this looks, and he may be perfectly straight in that rant, but he might want to think about even giving the appearance of HIGH.
I have no way of knowing one way or the other, but Mayweather has been noted over the years for being a guy who doesn’t do drugs or even drink.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Sep 3, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I Do Know That
And hope I’m clear that it’s an appearance, to me, that may well not be a reality, certainly re actually taking something—he does always seem totally pure on that. But the whole thing seems more abnormal than I think he usually is, not that I’m in a position to know how he usually is, but it’s driven-seeming behavior. And we’ve certainly seen him in 24/7, weigh-ins, and other promos, and tho deliberately obnoxious, he didn’t come across like this. This seems crazy.
So Suzanne, the man asks:
“What is a NYC girl living in Massachusetts doing in a place like this?”
I know a handful of women here in the city who share some level of interest in boxing ….but none so astute and/or caring about the sport or it’s participant.
As my now four year old daughter used to say : “How Happen?”
Born Here,
Lived there a long time (23 yrs) (legal proofer, trade journal copyeditor/associate editor, small press editor, like that), family properties (2) needed somebody to take care of them, I came home (15 yrs ago). Still miss NYC, but do love this old, blue-collar, spacious nabe, 5th generation in this house (grew up across town). Always liked boxing as a kid, lost touch in my 30s, got back in touch. Like coming home.
Born and raised in Philly
Where boxing is in the blood …and the gestalt.
Living in NYC for last 30 years so I’m NY though and through.
Great City. Still love it.
Glad you’re back with boxing….and on this board.
Like father like son...
…they both say stupid ignorant shit. I’m all about smack talk but the racial stereotypes cross the line.
I always assumed that if Mayweather were ever to fight Pacquiao, his trash talk themes would be racial insults. “ching chong” and stuff like that. I didn’t expect it to happen before the fight was even signed though.
Yeah, part of me is surprised at the crudeness of it, but I’m not entirely surprised by the racial elements of it. When Mayweather fought Marquez there was no overt racism, but there were definitely observable undertones in 24/7. This is not only racist, but quite ethnocentric as well.
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
24/7
Speaking of 24/7, how ‘bout HBO…they can’t be too pleased with this rant. Would they not be upset if Manny came out callin’ FM a watermelon, fried chicken eatin’ black monkey? How do you continue to promote a homophobic racist like May without a serious apology. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson callin’ FM out for insulting a minority. Calling Manny a fag_ot, this is a serious matter world-wide, everybody is responding, Raphael was just on espnnews, and will be on sportscenter with his story.
Which, if true that people are outraged over this,
is unfortunate. It makes Mayweather more marketable with the increased notoriety.
HBO or someone should make this a monetary issue. 5%, 10% of his next PPV or something like that. Public conduct like that shouldn’t be tolerated from an apex athlete, let alone rewarded as it appears it is headed.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Real class.
We all know that a lot of “street talk” involves stupid racist words that the speaker generally doesn’t even mean.
But Mayweather is not seventeen years old anymore.
Childish, stupid, ignorant: proof that the true “elites” can inculcate those form the working masses with the lowest priorities.
Money = everything to Floyd. He is America. And he is going to be a sad little man some day.
A Real shame
given his talent doesn’t come with too much class, but not hugely surprising.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Weak and stupid.
If I wake up tomorrow and see that the world has ended, then that means God has finally granted my prayers.
GO Armageddon!!!
Chicken, anyone?
Cats and dogs? A barbecued chicken is more likely.
and the home of the... JETS!!!
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Yeah, with all the
carenderias here, I’ve never seen a spinning cat or dog (although I have seen people bbq’ing dog in their backyards, and for that you can’t blame them since there are probably thirty stray dogs per street corner in this country). I’ve seen chicken, pig, goat and even pictures of bacca (cow) on the rotisserie.
Mayweather’s a moron. A savvy one, but still a moron who needs to be punished. How about we turn some of that federal government muscle against this kind of crap instead of firing endless volleys into the baseball steroid issue?
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Why post it at all?
Maybe a brief article with a synopsis but I think the video is worthless really.
This is what happens when humans get too big for their britches and there’s no daddy to go get a paddle, that’s all.
I don’t want to waste more energy on this kid than he deserves
so I will repeat what I have said often in the past. Floyd, skills and accomplishments aside, is a small man; one whose narcissism and fragile ego interfere with his ability to see the larger picture.
Yes, his ‘game’ has created a notoriety that has brought his name to the attention of a large audience. It has also given him access, since fighting ODLH, to great wealth. But there is wealth and riches….and then there is great wealth sustained by riches.
The former is more fragile and temporal; the later more sustainable permanent.
Mayweather can see each tree as it’s planted but because he has his head so far up his own ass, he’s missing the forest that has grown around him. He need look no further than his TV, his self admitted source of information and culture.
The face seen every night is that of the POTUS, Barack Obama. A black man who has leveraged intelligence and ambition to the highest level. There are many role models that a man in Mayweather’s position could aspire to that have transcended opportunity and taken it to extraordinary levels. There is Tiger. Lebron. Russell Simmons. Jay-Z and countless others .….all of whom knew that getting there was one thing, staying there another.
Floyd, despite his self-image, is small potatoes. Had he any intelligence and/or real integrity, he could’a been a real contender.
I don't know how many people would call Tiger or Lebron role models these days
I don’t want to get too far off track, but I saw a ridiculous poll not long ago. They asked about 1,000 Americans, randomly sampled, whether a number of things are moral or immoral. Adultery got like 92% in the poll, which was the second or third highest of all of the choices (which included things like perjury, mercy killing, polygamy, dogfighting, etc.). I mean adultery is bad and all, but it really does seem to get blown out of proportion a lot more now since Lewinskigate.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Fair enough
Demote Lebron and Tiger….but obviously for different reasons.
Lebron overplayed his hand in employing excessive media.
Tiger forgot a number of Clinton’s rules. First, if you are already the center of attention in a media saturated society, then recognize that everything you do is going to be scrutinized. That same adoring media will become your worst enemy if you’re not careful. Next, if going to cheat on your wife ….don’t. American don’t like adultery…..or so they say. And lastly, if you do (cheat), don’t use phones or text messaging.
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Nobody did anything wrong or anything like that, it’s just that this is about to go three pages deep into the archive and I don’t want anyone going haywire where I can’t track it. There are newer threads to weigh in if you would like.
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