Danny Green signs to fight BJ Flores on Nov. 17
by Scott Christ on Sep 7, 2010 5:44 AM EDT
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Danny Green, who holds the minor IBO cruiserweight trinket despite never fighting once at the full cruiserweight limit, will face BJ Flores on November 17 in Australia.
The fight is in a lot of ways the result of some pressure on Green, whose farce of a bout with a shot Paul Briggs earlier this year drew incredible criticism when the unprepared and unqualified Briggs went down and out on the a grazing "blow" just 29 seconds into the fight. The bout even drew some accusations of being fixed, but those are just accusations, of course, and for his part, Green seemed as dismayed as anyone after the fight.
Flores (24-0-1, 15 KO) has never endeared himself to boxing fans, but he's not a bad fighter by any stretch. He's gotten out of his deal with Square Ring Promotions and is putting himself right into a fight with one of the top money men in the division, as well as a fighter whose reputation is fairly strong at the moment, stemming from his TKO-1 of Flores' old boss, Roy Jones Jr., last December. Green has been fighting his bouts no higher than 185 pounds since his comeback last year, but will have to concede more than that for Flores, who has a heavyweight body type at 6'2" with an 80-inch reach.
Honestly, if Flores is in shape and motivated, a big part of me considers him the favorite against Green (30-3, 27 KO). Green can punch, but has never been confused with a solid technician. While Flores is not an exciting sort and doesn't bring tons of workrate or action to a fight, he can be a very effective boxer. Rust may be a factor for Flores, who hasn't fought since last August, and in his downtime even flirted with the idea of going into MMA, but Green himself hasn't been in a truly competitive fight in three years, and I doubt he'll have any designs on overwhelming Flores, who is in his prime years and is pretty sturdy.
The two will meet at Challenge Stadium in Perth.
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Green finally steps up.
Yeah I’d make Flores the favourite. This is the fight I hoped Green would take. I saw the press conference – big size difference – BJ looks like a HW. I see Flores outboxing him.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Green will lose.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Gday Goaty
I don’t have ESPN friday night fights but my old man does and like you he reckons Flores will be too big and too young for the aging Green.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Pretty much
And frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if Green outboxes him anyway. I’ve always seen Flores as like a supersized version of Peter Manfredo, only he’s less aggressive. I mean, how the hell do you not knock out JL Herrera? But Flores doesn’t have the killer instinct to knock out Green, and he doesn’t have the technical prowess to blow him out either, which he would need to do to win on the cards in Australia.
Nice to see Green finally fight someone over 185 though.
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Australia 'aint Germany
Kessler came down here and got a decision over Mundine. The refs can be dodgy but they don’t score. Flores can win on points. Although it is being fought in Green’s hometown of Perth – one of the world’s most isolated capital cities.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
he doesn’t have the technical prowess to blow him out either, which he would need to do to win on the cards in Australia.
Which is what Kessler did to Mundine….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Green has trouble with boxers
Flores is an ex- US Golden Gloves champ. I reckon he may tap into his box of tricks.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Sep 9, 2010 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kessler
did not “blow Mundine out”.He won the fight but Mundine put in a respectable perormance.
Mundine beating Green.Now that’s what i’d call a “blow out”,where Green hardly won a round.
I disagree
Mundine was never in with a chance of winning the fight.
There is a difference, in my eyes, between a shut-out and a blowout.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Mundine v Kessler
WAS competitive . Far closer than Mundine v Green which Kostya Tzyu scored 12 rounds to nil to Mundine .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Green Machine Vs B J Flores !
B J will have to shoot him down in OZ. How true ! Those are the Words of Mr Ted Sares. Love ya work Mate. Green must be given credit for taking on a tough undefeated & avoided Cruiser Weight. I think this could turn out to be a great fight. Green is out to restore his pride as Australia’s number 1 Boxer & is repaying his Perth Fans back after the disaster against once tough Paul Briggs. Flores will def weight more than Green , but once Flores feels Green power shots, he’ll know he’s in for a very very tough fight. I know B J Flores has been calling out Green & the other champions for a title shot & Danny Green has answered the critics and said “Yes” to Flores. Should be a ball Tearer if Flores survives past the 6th round. Remember , Green has never been stopped & has only been dropped twice in his whole pro career. B J Flores better be ready to spill blood as Green comes to War . A big Hello to my main man in the US. Ted " The Bull" Sares.
The last time Green faced a boxer he was dominated by Anthony Mundine. Flores has a seven inch reach advantage and can box. Danny’s 37 so it’ll be interesting to see how long he can sustain that aggressive workrate.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
37 and I just cannot stress enough that the last time he was in a fight with someone who put up any resistance whatsoever, it was 2007 against Stipe Drews. I certainly don’t think Flores is a stud, but he’s not going to keel over on the first whiff of air from a Green jab and he isn’t shot like Jones and Siaca. He’s also a legitimate cruiserweight, which Green is not. Danny hasn’t had to use his gas tank in three years. I’ve found Green’s swelled ego since the Jones debacle to be alternately funny and off-putting, but I did always like him before that. I rooted for him against Mundine (though had no reason to feel he’d win, and he didn’t), and I honestly thought he was going to give Tarver hell with his power (and the likelihood that Tarver would take him too lightly) before Tarver ran away from that fight to pick off the club fighter that Roy Jones is now fighting in October. He may well win this fight, and if he does, it’ll be with pure power, and I think he’ll have to do it early. I wouldn’t be confident in his stamina — nor am I sure it’s bad, either — and no matter how tough a guy is, if his legs are going underneath him, he can be taken out.
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and no matter how tough a guy is, if his legs are going underneath him, he can be taken out.
Except for Chuck Norris.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
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Ugly mugged rangas arent my scene I’d rather fuck Wlads sheila ;-)
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Yeah, he’ll be giving away around 8 kgs (17.6 lbs) to Flores who’s big enough and tough enough to hang with Haye, Ruiz and Chagaev in sparring sessions. Green’s only stamina glitch I can recall was a dehydration issue against tough Kiwi Sean Sullivan in NZ back in 04. But going 11 rounds in three years against weak opposition certainly won’t build fight fitness.
I hear ya on the ego thing. Danny was always cool back in the day when he was climbing the ladder but just lately the bloke’s lost the plot.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Green has never won a decision against a world class fighter
Dann’ys only faced two fighters that were in their prime and that were world class , Beyer and Mundine . In those fights he went 0-3.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
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