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David Haye not planning any apology for "gang rape" comment

David Haye has no apology planned for his recent controversial comments. (Photo by Michael Steele/Getty Images)

Yesterday, David Haye got into a bit of hot water after it was reported that he'd compared his upcoming fight with Audley Harrison to "gang rape." Here is how Gareth A. Davies reported the quote from the Telegraph:

Haye may have overstepped the mark, nonetheless, with his remark that his fight with Audley Harrison, announced on Tuesday, would be "as one-sided as a gang-rape".

The reaction was, as Michael Marley put it, "as immediate as it was predictable."

Haye has said plenty of outrageous! things before, including promising to beat Jean Marc Mormeck "like Rodney King." Most of the time it's just sort of crass or crude, but not really much of a big ordeal. His t-shirt depicting him holding the severed heads of the Klitschko brothers was defiant and angered some (including the Klitschkos), but it's hardly as if anyone expected him to actually cut their heads off. Hell, at this point, nobody actually expects him to box either of them after he's backed out of fights with both brothers, so the t-shirt, in retrospect, is a joke on Haye at this point.

But as much as I agree that surely David Haye does not actually find rape to be a laughing matter, and as harmless as the comment really was at the end of the day, it just has to occur to someone of Haye's stature that saying it at all is stupid. It's stupid because you're going to get this reaction, and for people who think there's no such thing as bad press, I can't agree there. Haye has garnered almost nothing but bad press since moving up to the heavyweight division. The press he's received has painted him as a loud-mouthed paper "champion" doing all he can to avoid the fights people actually want to see.

And Haye says he won't apologize. On his Twitter page, Haye said, "If I apologised for every stupid/ignorant thing i said, I wouldn't have time for anything else during the day!"

On the surface, it's another minor knee-slapper from a guy who is actually pretty damn funny. But his obsession with his -- in his words -- "classic tasteless" comments is, well, stupid. Why force yourself to say "stupid/ignorant" things at all? Why not avoid it instead of putting yet another log on the fire? It's not as if he's actually dumb and doesn't know what he's doing, so really he's just being phony.

But in the interest of fairness, and because I can see two sides to this, I have to admit a couple of things that aren't anti-Haye right now.

  1. This is not even close to the idiocy that drooled out of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s mouth last week, and at least he isn't going to continue being fake with an apology he doesn't mean or understand.
  2. If we were talking about a stand-up comedian, would this even matter?

Haye's comment was in poor taste for sure. But was it evil or truly malicious? I can't see it that way. Do I think he should apologize? Probably not, unless he really felt bad or wanted to apologize. What's the point of getting another phony apology out of another public figure whom we all know won't mean it? These angered "groups" can probably just decide that they think David Haye is a prick and move on. Do they really need to be placated by a bogus apology?

David Haye's a boxer. He's not someone I'd look to as a bastion of good taste. What he said was dumb, and frankly just pointless, and it was either designed to elicit this very reaction or he's a bad person. So most likely Haye was just trolling here, since I don't think he's a rotten human being or the like. It's annoying, but why give him what he must desire most, which is further attention given, which gives him more opportunity to promote the newest crummy fight he and his team have signed?

Of course, I just spent time talking about it, so I'll just end this by saying his fight with Audley Harrison still sucks and we're all still waiting for him to fight the Klitschkos, as he's been promising for two years.

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Is this not just standard hype-building?

Stuff like this is par for the course in my opinion; Haye wanted to drum up interest in the fight and, like it or not, this sort of choreographed ‘’trash talk’’ is what gets the average man talking and interested in the fight, it is a PPV after all.

by LtfcPete on Sep 9, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

PC Overreaction
1.This is not even close to the idiocy that drooled out of Floyd Mayweather Jr.‘s mouth last week, and at least he isn’t going to continue being fake with an apology he doesn’t mean or understand.
2.If we were talking about a stand-up comedian, would this even matter?

Exactly right.

by BoxAnne on Sep 9, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely.

We like to criticise our sportsmen in the UK for any activity outside of sport. The tabloids literally scour for any dirt, and often provoke these massive overreactions.

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by Oli Goldstein on Sep 9, 2010 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

(That’s not to say I like to criticise our sportsmen; it’s just the general attitude, and it really pisses me off)

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by Oli Goldstein on Sep 9, 2010 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

(That’s not to say I like to criticise our sportsmen; it’s just the general attitude, and it really pisses me off)

ME tooo

I bet Mr Rooney is thinking the same thing as well!

by Sweet science on Sep 9, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, with all due respect, he’s cheated on his wife numerous times now with hookers. I have very limited sympathy with Mr Rooney!

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by Oli Goldstein on Sep 9, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he is a twat for doing it

but lets face it, does it really need to be printed in every tabloid. Its like the sting the Mail did on Lord Triesmen when he’s the head of the world cup bid. I would love for the world cup to be staged here, and they tried destroying that!

by Sweet science on Sep 10, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, the Triesman sting was pathetic. If I remember correctly, the Times and a whole host of other papers turned down that sting because they realised how potentially damaging it could be to the bid. That was truly an embarrassment.

"The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic"

by Oli Goldstein on Sep 10, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oli

thats just our press for you mate!!
 Complete load of over hyped sensationalised half made up crap. I haven’t bought a “news” paper in years. I prefer to believe what I, not what some brainless toe rag writes.

by Phill on Sep 10, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Er, words can have consequences to all.
2. If we were talking about a stand-up comedian, would this even matter?

Ask Michael Richards about the, um, not quite infinite safety net of the stand-up comic. Mayweather, too, thought he was just having fun and maybe doing his standard (poorly-executed and opponent-squashing) bit of showmanship when he opened his foul, fool mouth.

Mayweather’s jabbering was worse, in my opinion. But I’m not Filipino, Asian, gay, or a victim of gang rape, so my opinion isn’t terribly valid.

by El Destruyo on Sep 9, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Ask Michael Richards

This is not the same thing. Richards and Mayweather are a whole other ball of wax. “Rape” is used by today’s comedians quite often to garner the exact reaction (uncomfortable laughs and what have you) that Haye was probably seeking. Like, “Oh no, he didn’t just say that!” The word “rape” is used quite frequently by “edgy” comedians. The stuff Mayweather and Richards said, on the other hand, is absolutely not. I consider David Haye no less a comedian than Sarah Silverman. They both say a lot of crass stuff and they’re equally likely to fight the Klitschkos.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Sep 9, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LIke Richard Pryor once said when Leon Spinks was being ridiculed:

You don’t need to be no entomologist to be the HW Champ!

by FrankinDallas on Sep 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

In the bigger scheme of things, this is poor taste but small potatoes.
On the other hand, saying he’s sorry if he offended anyone doesn’t really take much effort.

by pakinpower on Sep 9, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

It doesn't take effort

But would he really be sorry? I think thats the point being made. Why say sorry when your not? You, being a normal person out of the media spotlight wouldn’t. Just because he’s in the spotlight doesn’t mean he should HAVE to say sorry.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s poor taste, but then again, like Scott said, if he’s a comedien no one would give a fuck.

by Sweet science on Sep 10, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if he apologizes without meaning it at all, what difference does it make? Are the groups upset — or individuals — really going to be placated by a bogus apology from someone who doesn’t care that he offended them?

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Sep 10, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I wouldn't care if he was actually in the ring knocking people out

What is so annoying about Haye and PBF is that they do far more out of the ring to bring attention to them than they do in the ring. It’s like the worst of fame; celebrity without substance.

by pakinpower on Sep 10, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, Boxing is on a downswing.

Pray for Nick Charles

by Kid Blast on Sep 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

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