Ring of Fire: Klitschko-Solis, Lee-Duddy, Friday Night Fights and More
Friday Night Fights
The start of a new year always makes for a slow boxing news cycle, and there is basically nothing going on right now. It won't be until January 29 that we get the first major fight of the year as far as U.S. fans are concerned, though ESPN2 has put together a solid January schedule for Friday Night Fights, including Peter Manfredo Jr. in the main event this week, along with Edwin "La Bomba" Rodriguez in the co-feature against Aaron Pryor Jr.
On January 21, FNF will be off, but the show returns on January 28 with Cristobal Arreola against Joey Abell in the main event from Temecula, California. Also featuring on the show that night will be Shawn Estrada, who faces Minnesota club fighter Jon Schmidt (10-1, 6 KO). Arreola-Abell is your standard fight for a name guy (Arreola) to look good on TV and get back in the mix, even though beating Abell isn't really going to say much about him. Arreola injured himself last time out against Manuel Quezada, though, so the soft-ish touch upon return isn't unexpected, and it's not like Cristobal has a habit of ducking anyone or anything like that, so it just is what it is. Could be a slugfest.
The Klitschkos
The big news this week centered on the Klitschko brothers. Tomasz Adamek is in the mix to face one of them later this year, and apparently it doesn't much matter which one. For now, David Haye is back off the table and everyone is bitching and whining and accusing each other and refusing to get a fight done. I still think Wladimir-Haye happens this year, but we'll see. The further along it goes, the more David Haye looks genuinely uneasy about the idea of fighting either of them, and that's just how I'm seeing it these days.
As for big brother, Vitali will be facing Odlanier Solis on March 19 in Germany. I don't think Solis will win, but it's not because I don't think he can, so that's a big difference. Solis just doesn't keep himself in peak shape, which can make it reasonable to assume he doesn't focus very well during training. It's one thing to get through the likes of Monte Barrett and Ray Austin while ballooning up to 260-270 pounds on a 6'1" frame, but Vitali is a different animal. The good thing is I'm genuinely curious, because Solis' skillset is legit. So for the first time in a while, I'll be tuning in to a Klitschko fight actually anxious to see how the challenger does.
Andy Lee-John Duddy
It's also been reported that Andy Lee and John Duddy will "finally" meet in March. Lee (24-1, 18 KO) was at first accepted and later rejected as a potential HBO opponent for Sergio Martinez, and because he thought he had that lined up, he lost an ESPN2 rematch with Brian Vera, the only man to beat him so far. Duddy (29-2, 18 KO) has been off the radar since his June loss in Texas to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., where he was pretty well outclassed overall by Chavez.
A few years ago, both Duddy and Lee were considered future challengers for Kelly Pavlik in money fights. Both have big Irish-American followings and can sell in the northeast. But then it all started coming down. Ignoring even Pavlik's career collapse, Lee was upset by Vera in 2008, and realistically has yet to rehab his image despite going 9-0 since then. He's been fighting on smaller cards since then and hopefully fine-tuning himself, and a lot of the fights, to be fair, have been against fair competition. Duddy finally had a decision go against him when he faced Billy Lyell in 2009, and then got beaten by Chavez. The Lyell loss was something that in a lot of ways was a long time coming. He'd escaped by the skin of his teeth against Walid Smichet and Howard Eastman, and I thought he lost the Smichet fight, and felt the two judges' scorecards of 98-92 for Duddy were a disgrace.
Duddy, at 31, is a known quantity. He is an OK fighter, but nothing more, and it seems to me that he's lost a lot of the gusto that "got him over" in the first place. He really isn't a blood-and-guts guy anymore, and seems a bit tentative when the action picks up. He was great at getting his face beaten in while coming forward for a good while, but it seems like he's gotten sick of having his face beaten in, or at least sick enough of that to hesitate with his own offense. Lee, 26, still has upside, and it would be very silly to write him off just yet. The Duddy fight is a good one to tell us where he's at right now. Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway), this isn't the Lee-Duddy moneymaker envisioned a few years ago, but they should do a nice house in Connecticut.
Odds and Ends
WBC cruiserweight titlist Krzysztof Wlodarczyk is recovering from knee surgery right now, but is scheduled to fight on April 2 against Francisco Palacios in Poland. He had the surgery in December, a couple of months after struggling a bit with Jason Robinson in what was, on paper, supposed to be an easy fight for him.
Quietly, it was announced that Audley Harrison will keep his purse for the David Haye debacle in November. Boxing sanctioning bodies and governing bodies love doing this kind of thing. They make a big ruckus about how they're going to look into something, and fix what's wrong with this damned sport, by God, and then they wait for most people to forget all about it and send out some news that nothing changed at all, and along we move. Not that I don't agree with the move. You can't punish Harrison for freezing up, and I really feel that way. It's not his fault people bought the hype and then felt ripped off.
FX's "Lights Out" seems to be getting solid reviews after its debut last night. I reviewed the show recently here, so if you missed that, check it out. Did anyone check it out last night? Thoughts?
Speaking of which, who's going to be getting Fight Night Champion upon release? Truth is, I almost surely won't unless I wrangle a review copy (hint, hint, EA Sports), and I'd love to have sort of a community review of the game from those who are bigger gamers than myself. If you're interested in participating, let me know. I figure everyone interested could play the game for a few days, send me thoughts, and I'll put together a front page post.
For those who might be wondering about some of the Boxing Bulletin staffers who did not join our esteemed and wonderful cast, don't worry, they're still out there. Michael Nelson and Patrick Connor (along with our own Andrew Fruman) will be contributing to Carlos Acevedo's excellent blog The Cruelest Sport, while Corey Erdman and Andrew Harrison (along with Anthony Wilson) will be at another great boxing blog, Tim Starks' Queensberry Rules. I cannot recommend both sites highly enough for those of you here who aren't familiar with them. Ivan Montiel can be read at FightFan.com.
On a final note and a bit of an aside, the best thing about Michigan's hiring of Brady Hoke is that in four or five years, the Wolverines will introduce Jim Harbaugh as head coach of the football team. I have nothing in the world against Brady Hoke and I hope it's a success, but I thought the school handled the whole thing really poorly, didn't really give themselves a shot at Harbaugh, and now no matter what the good word is out of Ann Arbor, it feels like they settled on Brady Hoke. And if he fails, I don't think it's going to be his fault, but a cold, hard reality that Michigan ain't Michigan anymore.
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It’s funny, I agree with your take on the Haye/Klitschko fight.
The further along it goes, the more David Haye looks genuinely uneasy about the idea of fighting either of them, and that’s just how I’m seeing it these days.
But the sports coverage over here seems to be uniformly intent on portraying it the other way.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_6636895,00.html
In case you didn’t know, Haye, as well as being the second coming of Joe friggin Louis, also has both ‘true’ World Champions running scared.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
I think that’s bordering on being biased. Wlad had scheduled the whole of his 2011 (Chisora / Adamek) up before the 7th of january. Personally i think both are trying to make the fight at the right time (ie most money) so putting all the blame on Haye when Wlad is clearly dragging it out aswell its unfair.
Anyone want to take a bet that Vitali will get Solis out of there faster than he did Arreola?
Cos while Arreola is 6’4’’ of fat, Solis is 6’1’’ of even more fat.
To paraphrase Kevin Bloody Wilson: “If Solis was about two inches taller, he’d be perfectly round…..”
This will be nothing but a heavy bag session for Vitali.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT8jCMlfMdA
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
comparing arreola and solis is blasphemy.
yes they are both fat but thats pretty much it. theres a pretty big disparity in actual skills between the two.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
would definitely agree
Also I believe Solis is the harder and better puncher of the two.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
if hes not fat.
he wins.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Even
not fat, he probably loses, but not as badly. Vitali, after all, will still be the better boxer.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
i think solis is the better all around boxer.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Huh? Are you a psycho or what?
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
obviously.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 13, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
by Chaos100 on Jan 12, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he is.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
There’s also a disparity of heart, fortitude, and will to win (if not will to prepare).
If shit starts going bad I doubt Solis will keep coming through the shit storm the way Arreola did.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
the whole part of solis being a much more skilled and talented fighter than arreola flew way over your head
him being a much more skilled fighter and being in shape will not put him in the position arreola was in…
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
him being a much more skilled fighter and being in shape will not put him in the position arreola was in…
Let’s check back with this assertion right after Round 4.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
solis
that fat bastard better get in shape. if hes in shape he wins.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
Are you related to Solis or something?
He could get into marathon shape and not win.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
ugh.
do i really dignify this banality with a response?
guess i just did.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
You're at least Cuban though, right?
What’s the angle?
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is this serious?
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
If it is not blind partisanship of some kind, please articulate for me what in Odlanier Solis’s resume or past history leads you to believe that, if he comes in in shape, he will be successful against Klitschko.
I do not see how that will happen and would like to be edified.
Thanks for your help in this matter.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
i’ll pass
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Then I’ll continue to assume he’s going to get pasted.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
i must say im very hurt and will lose much sleep over this by this but go right ahead, shickadance.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
shickadance
I don’t know what that word means
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
It a Philly thang!
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
2001 World Championship v D. Haye
Haye catches him early but then Solis completely out boxes Haye and beats him post to post. He’s faster, slightly weaker but not much, and looks to have some sort of defense. This is the Solis that could take down a Klitschko. A man that can get to the chin and avoid the jab. However, Solis has ballooned after his amateur career and has lost a good deal of speed.
Also in 2008 he was Iole’s second best prospect in front of Khan and Angulo, so yeah the man has some talent.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 13, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Even an in-shape Solis loses, IMO
Too short, not enough head movement or tight enough defense.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Who the hell does Solis have on his resume that would give anyone any degree of confidence that he can beat a fucking Klitschko? I don’t get it.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a highly-skilled amateur standout with more natural ability than anyone either of them have fought in years, for one thing. I’m really high on his talent, too. I also think he loses, though, and really I think he’d need to be 20 pounds below what he was for Austin to stand a legitimate chance, or in other words, a pro-low for him on the scales.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Povetkin has a real nice amateur pedigree as well.
How would he fare?
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Povetkin’s as good as Solis.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Not that it's relevant to much of anything
But at this point, I’m fairly convinced that several of Solis’s earlier fights were thrown by the opponent. If there’s a promoter I wouldn’t put that past, it’s Oner.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I dunno
I think it was more that opponents were freaked out when they got a couple of rounds into the fight and Solis began sweating Fluffernutter.
by Verklemptomaniac on Jan 12, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
not nearly as good
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
At least Povetkin has fought Chambers and Byrd.
Who has Solis fought? Barrett?
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
I understand where you’re coming from, and I don’t think Povetkin is bad or anything. I’m simply very high on Solis’ ability, even with the admission that he’ll probably never maximize it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 13, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
And don’t forget Audley.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
i want to see him at 235 or 240. hes going to have a rough night otherwise.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 12, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Lee/Duddy
This is the biggest Irish domestic fight in a long time. It’s hugely frustrating it’s not being held at home where it could be a fairly major deal. The fact of the matter is it probably wont even be broadcast live by a tv company here now. RTE usually only pick up fights that happen in Ireland. The best hope is probably for Sky to pick up the Martinez fight.
Other than that a tape delay by one of the English networks
that seems odd
If not for the people running the TV there, then for the fighters themselves. TV rights in Ireland would seem to be something Lee and Duddy would make sure to secure early in negotiations.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Neither guys American fights ever really get shown over here unless they’re on a bill SKY have bought,. Occasionally Duddy’s are shown on tape delay on bbc. Maybe RTE will surprise me, but I doubt it. The fight will probably be at about 2 or 3 Irish time, so it will be difficult to convince them it’s worth investing in.
FX’s “Lights Out” seems to be getting solid reviews after its debut last night. I reviewed the show recently here, so if you missed that, check it out. Did anyone check it out last night? Thoughts?
DVR’d it. Will probably watch it this weekend and render judgement then.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions
As far as "Lights Out" goes
it has a lot of authenticity in it such as using Steve Farhood and Nick Charles in a interview/fight scene. There is also a scene where he is working out and they show his title belts and they look accurate as far as I could tell.
The drawbacks were the fight scenes were iffy at best. It looked like these guys never put gloves on until they shot the scene.
All in all, it was a good start to the show and if it doesn’t go down the dramatic life story with no boxing it could be a really good show. We will have to wait and see if that happens or not.
Duddy is made to order for Pavlick's comeback.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
If Lee doesn't beat him first
But unless Lee has made big changes since the last time I saw him (admittedly a while ago), then Lee is made to order for Pavlik as well.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I meant my statement to stand alone, but yes, Lee is also made to order. I think KP beats both
of these guys in the same month. Lee has pop but can be popped. Duddy as nothing (anymore). Either one is perfect for KP.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Fnc review
I can try to throw up a review once I get the game. I played round three and four fairly extensively and I had complaints about the system. The revamping of the punch system and the addition of the heavy punch should make for an interesting game. I really hope that the footwork gets a little more realistic.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 12, 2011 2:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Will Fight Night Champion be available for PC gamers?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
No,it won't be out for PC
A demo for Champion is supposed to be out next month(not sure about the date). I capture gameplay and put on the blog for everyone if that is cool.
I will probably be getting FNC when it comes out. Like waldo47 I played the other games in the series alot. I thought 4 was ok but there is still work that needs to be done. I can also write up a review
"A hero has faced it all: he need not be undefeated, but he must be undaunted." - Andrew Bernstein
I totally agree on Harrison, SC.
You can’t punish Harrison for freezing up, and I really feel that way. It’s not his fault people bought the hype and then felt ripped off.
Sometimes, in any sport, you just freeze. As much as it’s disappointing, to punish that (especially in boxing, when to make a mistake is to be soundly beaten in the face by a guy who is probably more than adept at doing so) is to punish someone for being human. Harrison should and may well be remembered as one of the great snake-oil salesmen, but being deprived of a purse is (in my opinion) something that should be kept for corruption, and I do not believe that cap fits too well on Audley. A loud-mouthed delusional never-has-been he may be, but not being good enough to beat David Haye, or freezing at the biggest moment of his career, is not something he should be treated as a criminal for.
Otherwise, this guy would also be facing criminal charges:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZtLJbC42e4
An article about the guy is here:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/262792.html
But the salient point is that in the semi-final of this competition, he bowled amazingly, for figures of 4-44, taking out four England internationals. He then froze BIG-TIME in the final, and far from being able to replicate that form, could not produce even a club-cricketer’s form, and completely lost the ability to bowl the ball at all.
My point? Simply that in high-pressure situations, it does happen. I wish Audley would shut up and go away, but I do not think he should be treated like a criminal just for being found wanting and letting the pressure get to him.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
So they say Froch-Johnson might be in Montreal in May. Sweet! Finally a high profile fight in Qc that doesn’t involve a local boxer. I seem to remember Holt-Bradley doing not too bad, it should be a hoot!
i wonder what the attendance and atmosphere is going to be like without locals.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 13, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure they'll find a way to get some decent profile locals on the undercard
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
of course. im talking more about them during froch v johnson
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
by sonofapsycho on Jan 13, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
tad off topic
but how come this site takes so long to fully load? im having the problem both at work and my home. i hit the reply button and nothing happens. i have to hit stop then hit reply for it to work.
the page is actually loaded, all the comments and everything is showing but it still seems to be working. anyone know what im talking about or have the same issue? just a bit annoying is all.
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
It's the ads.
The ads take forever to load, and sometimes just don’t load right, so sit there for ages doing F-all…
And until the ads are all loaded, the site isn’t deemed by your browser to be ‘fully loaded’.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
I’ve had it sometimes. It’s usually one of the ads, which I have no control over, for anyone who’s ever wondered.
Also you can always go here if the problem won’t go away: http://www.sbnation.com/pages/contact?community_id=105
That’ll get the word out to the tech people and they might be able to pinpoint exactly what it is and get rid of or fix a bad script or whatever.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 13, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
SOLIS
Solis will not get in top physical condition and even if he does he does not have the skill to compete with Klitschko. Solis will probably not make the 12 rounds. He is a good prospect if he would just take his profession seriously.

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