Ring of Fire: John Duddy Retires, Kimbo Slice Won't Box, Oscar Backs Floyd, and More
John Duddy Passes on Andy Lee, Decides to Retire
Though he says he was offered over $100,000 to fight Andy Lee on the March 12 HBO undercard of Sergio Martinez-Sergiy Dzinziruk, John Duddy has decided to instead retire from boxing. Whether the retirement sticks is anyone's guess, but I think there might be something to this, and I think it might just be the real deal.
Duddy released a statement that said, "In many ways, continuing to fight would be the easy course of action. I have been offered the opportunity to fight Andy Lee on HBO for a purse in excess of $100,000. A win would put me in position to fight for a world championship. This is not an opportunity that I cast aside lightly. For more than twenty years, I loved being a boxer. I still feel that it's an enormous honor to be a boxer. But I don't love it anymore."
Duddy turned 31 last June, seven days before losing a decision to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in San Antonio. Over his professional career, he amassed quite a following, as strong Irish fighters generally do, and became one of the most reliable action stars in the sport for a period of time. As he was building himself up as a challenger in the middleweight division, though, critics pointed out that there were serious flaws in his style, namely that he lacked defense to a troubling degree, and often led with his face, as the cliche goes. Wins over Howard Eastman and Walid Smichet were debated and questioned, and in April 2009 he suffered a shocking upset loss to Billy Lyell, a mediocre midwestern fighter with little power, a guy Duddy was supposed to roll through as he had done others.
The loss came after Duddy had tried to change his style some with new trainer Pat Burns. In his fight prior to the loss to Lyell, Duddy wasn't his usual all-action self in a win over Matt Vanda, though in the 10th and final round of a comfortable decision win, Duddy and Vanda did bang it out a bit. After Lyell, Duddy ran off three wins over Michi Munoz, Juan Astorga and Michael "Murder Man" Medina, the latter of those fights showcased on the Pacquiao-Clottey pay-per-view, and hardly an inspiring performance.
The loss to Chavez was pretty clear, and it seemed during that fight, to me at least, that Duddy just wasn't the same guy he was during his rise to prominence as a would-be contender. In his last batch of fights, he seemed to lack the hunger and desire that saw him through many tough battles. Maybe one of the problems was that Duddy had had tough battles with what weren't exactly the cream of the sport's crop, and he had seen the writing on the wall as far as his limitations went.
At one point, Duddy was under serious consideration to fight then-middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik, after Pavlik had dethroned Jermain Taylor and dispatched of Taylor in a rematch. That fight never came off, and neither did the all-Irish battle between Duddy and Andy Lee, which at one time seemed like a future money match in the division. The timing of the fight this year would have been more a crossroads bout. Lee, still coming back from his first loss in 2008, would have been in line to get arguably his best pro win. Duddy, on the other hand, would have been in line to get back into contention. There seemed to be the intention of matching Martinez with Lee should both win, and perhaps a spirited Duddy victory really would have landed him a shot at the middleweight championship.
But it's not to be. Duddy retires with a career record of 29-2 with 18 knockouts, and while I guess in some respects you could see him as a fighter who failed to live up to his potential, I choose to see him as a guy who probably maximized the natural ability he did have, got close, and just didn't quite get all the way there. And if this is a decision that sticks, he also appears to be a pragmatist.
Oscar Says Floyd Will Beat Manny
Since both guys beat Oscar, he had to pick someone, and he's sticking with Money Mayweather, perhaps in a PR-related attempt designed to lure the cash cow back into the warm embrace of Golden Boy Promotions, after word that Mayweather wasn't happy with their negotiating skills during the last go-'round of "Hey, you guys should fight each other" for Manny and Floyd.
"Believe me I'm also frustrated because I feel, with Golden Boy promoting it, each fighter can make huge money and it will be great fight."
Note: Whenever Oscar de la Hoya starts a statement with "believe me," assume the opposite of what he says is true.
Shocker! Kimbo Slice Won't Box!
In a turn of events that nobody could have seen coming, 36-year-old Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson won't be trying his hand at professional boxing, despite the dollar signs in promoter Gary Shaw's eyes, which are probably even more misplaced than the dollar signs the Shaws had in their eyes with Kimbo and EliteXC. Instead, Kimbo will head to Japan to try his hand at professional wrestling, which is fair enough. Japanese wrestling fans love their spectacles, and Slice is something of a spectacle if nothing else. Slice will be matched with ex-sumo Shinichi "Wakakirin" Suzukawa on February 5 in Fukuoka for Inoki Genome Federation, headed by Antonio Inoki, who boxing trivia buffs or Ali fans might know as the man who fought Muhammad Ali in that painfully awful boxer vs. wrestler bout in 1976, which resulted in Ali landing a few punches and Inoki damaging Ali's legs with kicks from his back. Mostly I just hope this puts to rest the absolutely ridiculous idea that a half-trained, 36-year-old guy with bad knees could come in and do anything notable in boxing, at least just by eliminating boxing as a possibility.
Odds and Ends
Sergio Martinez gave up the WBC middleweight belt, making Sebastian Zbik the full "champion" of the sanctioning body. Those who have seen Zbik fight but have not stopped calling everyone who holds one of these political trinkets "champion" may be inclined to change their tunes.
Bob Arum and Don King are of course promoting the Cotto-Mayorga fight on March 12, which is the first time in five years that the long-time bitter rivals but always willing business partners (when there's money to be made) have co-promoted. King told FanHouse that it's "going to be a lot of fun," and Arum says King is already talking about matching Mayorga with Manny Pacquiao in November.
UK junior welterweight prospect Frankie Gavin (8-0, 7 KO) is looking for a shot at the British title.
The Fighter did pretty well at the Golden Globes, all things considered, scoring wins for Melissa Leo (Best Supporting Actress) and Christian Bale (Best Supporting Actor). The film was also nominated for Best Motion Picture - Drama, Best Actor - Drama (Mark Wahlberg), Best Supporting Actress (Amy Adams), and Best Director (David O. Russell).
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Duddy’s retirement was always around the corner. A sunuvabitch who looks like Brad Pitt and and talks like Colin Farrell was not long for the boxing world. I guess somebody finally convinced him that boxing would not be his golden parachute.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Yes, He could well make it in Hollywood (or Boston).
He would make a great bank robber or undercover guy. Also, he would do well in an IRA flick.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
An IRA flick?
I pray to God you’re joking – politics aside, the thought of a film glamorising any terrorist group is absolutely abhorrent.
On a non related point I’m glad John Duddy has retired, he always seemed a good guy, if the fire’s gone, the fire’s gone.
Am I the only person who finds Frankie Gavin the most overrated of Warren’s Olympians? (Though Frankie isn’t technically an Olympian.) Less than average power and too willing to brawl, I can’t see him going much further than European level.
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
Am I the only person who finds Frankie Gavin the most overrated of Warren’s Olympians?
Brick thinks he’ll be a P4P guy before too long…. we’ve had a little bet on it, he and I. :)
I agree with you, I don’t really rate him. When we saw him live at Wembley I wasn’t very impressed, and I don’t see him being good enough to emulate a Hatton or Khan.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Sounds like easy money for you mate!
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
nah... we've only bet a drink on it :)
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Yeah, I'm very high on Gavin
We’ll see if he can get the discipline, and he has a lot of questions about intangibles still, but he just has an awesome defensive/offensive mix with good tools and he’s still raw to boot. Hopefully he can find a good trainer to polish him a little.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
There have been many great movies about terrorists. “The Day of the Jackal” was a great flick, for instance.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
But he wasn't a terrorist. He was an assassin.
Terrorists function via terror. He wasn’t trying to cause terror, he was simply trying to kill De Gaulle.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Look up the Jackal sometime and then tell me all about how he wasn’t considered a terrorist.
Or, on second thought, don’t.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I've read the Forsyth book a few times.
Terrorist function through terror, and the assassin was not attempting to cause terror, he was attempting to kill De Gaulle.
I KNOW you know what that distinction means, so I’ll not insult your intelligence by elaborating on it needlessly.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Oh man
In my movie, I will cast Duddy as an IRA “assassin,” not an IRA “terrorist”, if that makes you happy…. and ends this conversation.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Fair enough.
I think he’s more likely to get cast as ‘Gypsy Boxer #1’ anyway :)
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
here are a few represntative films on the subject. I could find no terrist/boxing flicks, however.
Dirty War
The Dancer Upstairs
Black Friday
Michael Collins
Black Sunday
One Day in September
Arlington Road
Paradise Now
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction
Absolutely terrorized Zed….and killed the gimp.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
nAW, HE JUST KO'd the gimp
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Wasn't "The Boxer" arguably a terrorist/boxing flick?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
yeah kind of
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 20, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well, now that you mention it, it was
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Couldn't agree more
re glamorizing terrorists
and re John Duddy.
Don’t know enough about Frankie Gavin
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
And I couldn't disgree more.
No one said anything about glamorizing terrorists. All they said was IRA
I don’t know much about Frankie Gavin either
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Have you seen:
5 minutes of Heaven
have you read
The Ghosts of Belfast
I’m not joking at all. We like gangster movies and watch Boardwalk Empire. For God’s sakes, are we so politically correct that we can’t watch a movie about the IRA? Carlos just one a Golden Globe though I thought The Pacific was ten time better. Let’s not be situational and selective in our criticism. I say it again, Duddy would make a good actor in an Irish film of some sort. Maybe Liam Neeson could teach him how to act. But the kid has great looks and seems to have smarts.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Carlos just won a Golden Globe
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
I haven’t seen it, but I have heard much about it. Apparently it was a cable mini-series, but they also did a big-screen release at the IFC theatre here in New York. Total running time was something like 6 hours… No way Jose!
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Neeson: Great actor.
His turn as Oskar Schindler is one of the most awe-inspiring performances I’ve ever seen.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Yeah, I’ve always been a big fan of books and movies about crooks, mobs, terrorists, hitmen, spies, etc. Maybe it’s a taste thing.
I recall that there was a halfway decent film starring Harrison Ford with Pitt as an IRA guy about fifteen years ago or so, but I can’t recall what it’s name was. It was okay.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
'The Devil's Own'.
Decent film. I had it on VHS, but must have given it away with all the other VHS cassetees I gave to a charity shop.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
I love any book or film that is about Ireland and particularly about the bad times in
the North. Just find that stuff fascinating. English and South African mysteries are good as well, but the Nordic and Scandinavian ones are the very best IMO. I know the one you mentioned. It was good,
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
However, Blown Away sucked big time.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Smylla's Sense of Snow is a good Scandanavian mystery novel.
Peter Hoeg, I believe.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Great one indeed.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
The Swedes are pretty sick. Man they go nreal deep. Got to love it!!!
I mean sick = good when it comes to a good book or movie and the Swedes deliver the bacon.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Arum and King.
Am I the only one who thinks this is their way of saying to Floyd that there is in fact another path to making the fight with Pacquiao happen…..without GBP?
Assuming, of course, that his ‘vacation’ isn’t extended indefinitely with a layover in legal limbo.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
huh
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
i meant that by teaming up once again in a joint promotion
Arum and King are reinforcing their earlier pronouncement and contention that if Floyd were top leave GBP and let King promote him, Arum would be more inclined to get a deal done between Floyd and Manny.
the two promoters holding hands only drives home the point that these two can in fact work together.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Seriously?
There’s a better chance of Manny fighting Ricardo Montalbon in November than Ricardo Mayorga.
by Verklemptomaniac on Jan 19, 2011 12:31 AM EST reply actions
Boxing Movies
The Fighter was, in my humble opinion, the fifth best boxing film ever made, just after Raging Bull, Fat City, Million Dollar Baby, and The Set Up. It’s got me thinking about my favorite boxing movies, and since I like lists, here’s mine:
1. Raging Bull
2. Fat City
3. Million Dollar Baby
4. The Set Up
5. The Fighter
6. Rocky
7. Harder They Fall
8. Cinderella Man
9. Diggstown
10. Rocky II
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I love Diggstown.
(which isn’t the same as saying it’s a good film… lol)
Surprised Rocky isn’t higher on your list.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Rewatching Rocky shows it's still an inspiring movie,
but it’s also a pretty flawed film, with corny acting in many spots, and less than stellar screenwriting, esp compared to gems like Fat City and Raging Bull.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Rocky’s script won an Academy Award, I think. It was a great script, in my opinon.
Another I’d add to your list is “Somebody Up There Likes Me” with Paul Newman as Graziano. A great flick.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I think the original Rocky has been tarnished through association with its subsequent sequels.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
I find some of the writing and plot pacing a bit manipulative and predictable.
But that’s just me. It’s still a great film.
It was nominated for the screenplay but lost to another great movie, The Network.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I think that’s only because it’s been copied by so many inferior films since. Rocky set the bar, and then a million other movies banged their heads against it.
Hell, they even have a TV series that is cracking it’s skull on that bar as we speak. “Lights Out” it’s called. Awful stuff.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Did you see Scott's review of that?
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
I enjoy the show
But I’ve seen the entire first season, and I will say two things:
1. It’s a blatant Rocky copy in a lot of ways.
2. It gets better as it goes along, IMO, but like I said before, I can definitely imagine hardcore boxing fans not getting much out of the show.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 20, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ayesha liked it and has been watching. I can’t remember where they lost me, but it was pretty early, definitely before the second commercial break. Maybe I can’t get past the whole “McRocky: The Series” vibe. The character is even from Bayonne like Wepner, though no one in the show talks like they are from Bayonne, so it’s like they can’t even correctly borrow from stuff that Rocky borrowed from.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I’d try to guess where it might have lost you, but it could’ve been one of 10 things before the first commercial break.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 22, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Fat City is a good one! I saw it on Turner Classic a couple years back, but haven’t been able to find it on dvd since. I’m glad somebody else is a fan!
"Mug an old lady, and if you have the right connections the WBO will rank you seventh." -Steve Farhood
by BloodMeridian on Jan 19, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
They showed a digitally remastered version at the film forum last year that blew me away.
Jeff Bridges and Susan Tyrell are just fantastic in that film—such great drunken chemistry.
My avatar image, by the way, is taken from the cover from the book upon which the film is based. Also highly recommended.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Stockton, CA
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
damn straight
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Chavez Jr took Duddy’s heart.
"Your a fool. You were a tool from the very beginning. They used you to force my hand. And either way, you lost. By all rights, I should of killed you. And you know it"
Was that his MK 'Fatality' move?

In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
A couple of jokes come to mind
- Good, he rather needed one.
- So Duddy was a Zelda boss? Does that mean Chavez Jr. can now shoot lasers until he’s hit again? Did he get the hookshot?
by Verklemptomaniac on Jan 19, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
hE DID, i THINK HE REALLY DID.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
didn't expect to hear that Duddy is hanging them up
he doesn’t even look 31.
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But he just can't learn defense. He just can't. It's his achilles heel
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Basically,
Yes. And it’s not that he’s stupid—it’s just, that’s not a temperament that can forgo head-on. Just an impossibility for his temperament, to any significant degree.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
yeah
He tried, and it wound up getting him beat by Lyell. It’s just not what he’s good at.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 20, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
On the other hand it helped him beat Vanda. But, uh, you know.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Right. Reckon he’d have beaten Vanda anyway, just would’ve been bloodier.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 22, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Good for John Duddy
If he means it, a good example for all. Here’s to a Graziano-type after-boxing career for him, which is not out of the question, would be fun and lucrative for him, and wouldn’t hurt brand boxing either.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
"I don't know how a man decides what's right for his own life, it's all a mystery."
Even a greater mystery when that man has been taking hits to his dome all his life. I wonder how much cash he has left from the Chavez fight. Maybe 100 K just doesn’t seem like much to him, but that would have been a nice retirement gift to himself. He probably would have lost, but its not like Lee is a destroyer. Although its refreshing in this sport to see somebody not just showing up for a check.
"Mug an old lady, and if you have the right connections the WBO will rank you seventh." -Steve Farhood
Why
didn’t Duddy announce his retirement a few weeks ago instead of going through with setting up the fight with Andy Lee and having everyone thinking what would be a decent C-level fight to look forward to on the Martinez undercard would actually happen?
After all,the Lee side sent out a press release only the other day saying the fight was set.
I’m expecting a Danny Green style u-turn in 9 months or so with Duddy stating that “the fire has been reignited”.
Green “got a feeling in his stomach,kind of like an epiphany” that it was time to hang em up only to make a comeback around a year later.
Maybe Duddy just didn’t want another L on his record.
For once,
I think Oscar is correct. Not that his motivations aren’t obvious with the quote. All things being relative, and without out of the ring distractions, I think Floyd UD’s Manny. My heart always says otherwise, but my head thinks it to be true.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
me too for now
And I really, really, really think it’s not only a great event, but if they ever hook up (before it’s too late and one of them has lost something big), it will be a GREAT fight.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 19, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I have now changed on that. I now think Manny manhandles Floyd. My reversal is based on Floyd''s
inactivity.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Exactly.
He’s been able to get away with that before, but not against MP, and not at 34. It’s been since Dec. ‘08 when he beat Hatton, against whom he had to fight hard to get a decision (vs what MP did to Hatton)—since’08 in other words that he was in a real fight. Relative to fighting MP, JMM was too small, SM was too old, to really qualify as legitimate challenges to his talent. He’s smooth, but I don’t think it’s going to save him. Maybe thinking with my heart, but at the very least it’s too close to call.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Floyd didn't beat Hatton by decision.... :/
All your other points I agree with.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
My mistake--
I was remembering him awaiting the formal announcement, and then, all happy, hovering over his then-tiny children, and for some reason remembered it as a UD
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Same with the Oscar and Manny scenario. Manny manhandlles Oscar and Floys is extended.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Meant for Boxanne
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Plus he may be crazy
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
He being Floyd
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
John Duddy always seems like a really likeable gy and I enjoyed watching him fight – glad he’s getting out while the going’s good, and I hope he can find something productive to do so that he can stick to it.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)

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