Roy Jones is returning full-time as analyst for HBO's Boxing After Dark. Show has used 2 announcers since @HBOboxing fired Lennox Lewis.
Dan Rafael's Twitter. Oh happy day. Hopefully he doesn't take the Antonio Tarver route and continue to have ill-advised fights after what should be his post-fight career is starting to take off.
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I hope he doesn't talk over Max the whole time.
He’s got good insight and is articulate, but I never cared for it when he played the “I fought and you didn’t” card on Larry Merchant. You don’t have to have been a top-level pro to have something valuable to say about the game.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 20, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions
This is good news.
I fought and you didn’t"
I thought Foreman did that more than Roy.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
I’d say Foreman did it more, but Roy did it enough to be annoying too. It’s something I really, really hate. Then again, they were doing it to Merchant. Maybe it was their nice way of saying “Shut up, Larry.”
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by Scott Christ on Jan 20, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Right, I don’t deny that Merchant needs to be told to shut up periodically. I just like it when Jim does by explaining why the point Larry is making is so ludicrous, rather than Roy (or George, KB) just throwing out the fact that Merchant didn’t fight.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 20, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. As much as I respect guys who used to fight and their insights into a fight, it’s just lazy broadcast journalism. “Well I’m right because I used to do this and you didn’t, NERD.” That alone is just not a good enough reason to me. But then I hate most sports broadcasters who aren’t Al Bernstein, Steve Farhood, Steve Albert, Nick Charles… so the Showtime boxing guys, except that troll Gus Johnson. By far the worst, if you’re interested (you aren’t), is Thom Brennaman, who is absolutely unbearable.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 20, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll just leave this over here…
http://www.badlefthook.com/2010/4/4/1404862/just-one-more-time-yall-musta
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 20, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Despite myself: I still love that track.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
If he started off every broadcast with this song, then I might die from laughter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoCOg8ZzUfg&feature=related
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 20, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I like that one too, but mainly because there is a highlights clip of Jones with that as the soundtrack, and it's brilliant.
I’ve watched it that many times now that I see that video when I hear that song. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWnMXzgeZo
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Can't say I'm enamored with Menefee either
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by Scott Christ on Jan 20, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I got Al's autograph in Tacoma in December
Extremely cool guy. Some security dude was trying to usher him away and he told the guy to hang on and signed the autograph for me.
It now hangs in a place of honor under my heavy bag with Abner’s, which I also got that night.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 20, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
If you are a Brit, what were you doing in Tacoma?
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
I am not a Brit.
Live in Kittitas County, WA. (Hence the name.) About a two-hour drive from Tacoma, depending on how the mountain passes are. In early December, they were not good, but being there live for the Bantamweight tournament was well worth the hassle.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 20, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'll be damned!!!!!!!!!!
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Which is ahot boxing town and hometown of my good friend Greg Haugen
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
Haugen was a warrior.
Is he still active in the sport? Does he coach PAL down there or something?
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 20, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I lost track of him, but he is heading up some kind of foundation for Autism. He really is
a solid guy. What you see is what you get. Not a phoney cell in his body. The movie, THe Fighter, could well have been about his life.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just move in.
That’s good that he’s in charitable endeavors. They have pictures of him in the bars still. The old school guys remember him for sure.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 21, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hell yeah!
Roy has good insight and point outs good things during the fight. Also, he speaks with charm and charisma. The best counterpoint to Larry’s dribble and Max squeak is Roy. And i dont mind the “I fought” card. Its a good way to say “speak wisely”. And yeah, Foreman played it much more aggressively. Im pumped.
How it helps someone to “speak wisely” is beyond me…
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Jan 21, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions
I think you're being too literal, Mr Gold... :)
maybe “speak knowledgably” or “speak like someone who has been there, seen it and done it”…
lol you’re a tough crowd :D
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
I am absolutely and definitely excited at the idea of having someone who can tell us that you don’t have to go to Vegas to get away from distractions.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Or compare Andre Dirrell to Muhammad Ali....
Absolutely!! :D
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Wow, am i the only one who thinks he’s mediocre at best, and pales in comparison to rival Antonio Tarver on the mic?
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
RJJr.'s Delivery
is less slick, but I think his insights are better, by a smidge. I like both of them at the mic.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
bq, I like both of them at the mic.
KRS 1 tops them both. Cookie for anyone who gets the reference…
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 21, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Knowledge Rains Supreme Over Nearly Everybody
by FrontHandMan on Jan 21, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 22, 2011 5:46 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
welcome back DC, a rather belated Happy New year and that ;)
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Hey Brian
A very happy, if belated, New Year to you too! Did you have a good one?
So, what’s all this stuff about flamewars?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 22, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
hey
it wasn’t very rock and roll, but it was ok, a quiet one. Hope you had a good Hogmanay ;)
Ah, flamewars….just a few arguments escalating and not the best…undercurrent, but I think its all good now. You didn’t miss out on much, really ;)
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
i dunno about that, i still think tarver and foreman give great thoughts. tarver discusses like the jab to the solar plexus to stablize opponents, about intangibles, and little things a boxer does in the ring. i also think foreman has way more boxing knowledge than i woulda expected from this big powerful brawler. in the dela hoya mosley 1 fight, he called a good fight talking about how mosley was using the right or switching southpaw to nullify the left hand, and other important insights. that’s just me. holler!
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
I definitely like Tarver better.
And he and Bernstein have built a great rapport, which contrasts sharply with Roy’s contentiousness with Merchant.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 22, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I think for me and maybe for some others it’s partly RJJr.‘s contention with Merchant that is liked, altho’ not the only or most important thing—matter of personal taste, they’re both good.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
See above
I have no problem with people contending with Larry, I just prefer when they articulate why he’s not correct at a given moment, instead of just resorting to pointing out he wasn’t a fighter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88v5JHDLRHw
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 22, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Here continues my debate why I like AT over RJJ
Transcript for RJJ for Amir Khan vs. Marcos Maidana round 1:
RJJ.: Khan wants to shake hands and this cat mumbles with a left hook! laughs
Jim- I don’ think he’s terribly interested in shaking hands.
RJJ: No he’s not. laughs.
RJJ: Well don’t get hit with that overhand right (referring to khan)
RJJ: Oh he hurt him with that.
30 secs later: laughs at a Larry Merchant comment
RJJ: Maybe he (Maidana) didn’t realize that Amir Khan can punch too.
RJJ: The hand speed is so different and so phenomenally different. Khan has so much more hand speed than Maidana that he’s throwing Maidana off.
Jim Lampley: Right, Maidana cannot believe that Khan can throw a 4 punch combination before he responds.
RJJ : And have power on it
RJJ: Oh! Ohhhhh! (when maidana goes down from body shot)
Jim lampley : and he’s gonna get up!
RJJ: But he don’t want to, but he don’t want to though..
Larry Merchant: If he got up Roy, he wanted to get up.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
Antonio Tarver calling Ward Kesser Round 1;
AT: I think it’ll do well (the 18 X 18 ft. ring vs. 20 × 20 ft.) for Andre b/c if any one of these of these fighters are able to move and be versatile, it would be Andre.I mean he’s known for his quick feet.
AT: (On Kessler) No he’s not (a fast starter). You know he takes his time, he set up and mumbles his guy. he sees what he can get away with . and then he executes. that’s a sign of a veteran fighter. A veteran champion
AT: Most definitely and coming as the challenger it’s very important that you dictate that first round, that you’re not going anywhere. That you’re here for the long haul.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
I just read both of those
and I really fail to comprehend your point.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Ditto
Is it a denouncement of both, or a statement that Tarver is the less poor choice?
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 25, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing about those posts says to me that Tarver is any better than Jones, unless I'm missing something.
I mean, I could put up photos of these guys as teenagers, and that makes just as strong a case for either as a better commentator in 2011 as these two ‘transcripts’ do. In other words, there is nothing here. :/
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
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