Boxing Results: Kell Brook Stops Rafal Jackiewicz, Rodrigo Guerrero and Donnie Nietes Nab Belts
by Scott Christ on Oct 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT
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Not a whole lot went down this weekend, but there were a few notable cards around the world, so let's get to the results. My time on the site may also be limited for the next two weeks, as I have a three-day bachelor party thing in Kentucky this weekend, and then I'm in a wedding the next weekend. Andrew Fruman will be here to cover the Hopkins vs Dawson show on 10/15, as well as the Donaire vs Narvaez show on 10/22 in my absence.
Tijuana, Mexico
Results: Rodrigo Guerrero TD-6 Raul Martinez ... Daniel Sandoval KO-10 Jorge Silva ... Jackie Nava UD-10 Soledad Edith Matthysse.
Analysis: Guerrero (16-3-1, 10 KO) captures the vacant IBF super flyweight belt with the win over Martinez (28-2, 16 KO), which came early due to an accidental headbutt. Martinez was also down in round three, and you can't help but wonder if he regrets going into this fight having not competed in 11 months, dating back to the first fight between these two, which was a highly debatable split decision win for Martinez.
Sheffield, England
Results: Kell Brook TKO-6 Rafal Jackiewicz ... Dale Miles TKO-6 Mihaita Mutu ... Kenny Anderson TKO-3 Paul Morby.
Analysis: Not surprising that Brook (25-0, 17 KO) won, but perhaps surprising that he stopped Jackiewicz (38-10-1, 19 KO), who had never lost inside the distance in his 10-year pro career. Jackiewicz did protest the stoppage, and I suppose fairly, but he was losing the fight in a big way and it wasn't much to see, quite honestly. On Brook's behalf, Matchroom are apparently hunting fights with Paul Malignaggi (pass), Mike Jones (interesting), or Devon Alexander (pass unless he's back on track at 147). Brook wants Amir Khan, but it's probably not going to happen.
Bacolod City, Philippines
Results: Donnie Nietes UD-12 Ramon Garcia ... AJ Banal UD-12 Mario Briones ... Merlito Sabillo UD-12 Rodel Tejares.
Analysis: Garcia brothers Ramon and Raul aren't exactly closing out 2011 with a bang, as both have now lost their titles. Nietes (29-1-3, 16 KO) is a very good fighter, so it's no shame or anything, and won this one on scores of 115-113, 117-111, and 118-110, giving him a title in a second weight class (105 and now 108). Banal (26-1-1, 19 KO) continues to win at home.
Burbank, Illinois
Results: Osumanu Adama TKO-9 Roman Karmazin ... Eric Mitchell SD-10 Derrick Findley.
Analysis: This one reportedly wasn't pretty, as Karmazin (40-5-2, 26 KO) was battered and by all accounts should have turned down the IBF's invitation for a title eliminator, and stuck with the retirement he talked about after losing to Daniel Geale last October. Adama (20-2, 15 KO) is a tough, quality fighter, and if he were to eventually get a shot at Geale, I could see him giving the Aussie some issues. Mitchell (23-7-1, 11 KO) is still fighting at age 42, and this was his first win since 2008.
Other Results
Saint Petersburg, Russia: Dmitry Sukhotsky TKO-2 Nadjib Mohammedi ... Liverpool, England: Tony Dodson TKO-7 Darren Stubbs ... Baja California, Mexico: Ana Maria Torres UD-10 Marisa Johanna Portillo ... Monterrey, Mexico: Jose Rojas KO-1 Eliud Melendez Rocha ... Edmonton, Alberta, Canada: Tye Fields TKO-6 Raphael Butler ... Janks Trotter TKO-1 Jordan Clarke ... Cabo Rojo, Puerto Rico: Manny Siaca TKO-1 Jhon Berrio ... McJoe Arroyo UD-6 Shawn Nichol ... Lincoln, Rhode Island: Vladine Biosse D-8 John Mackey.
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A three-day bachelor party? Is that even survivable?
Meantime, you’ve given me yet more homework to do. Not about bachelor parties, I mean, but tracking down some of these fights.
A three-day bachelor party? Is that even survivable?
Well it’s more road trip than party — drive down, get there on Friday night, hang out a little, go on the bourbon tours and get drunk on Saturday, come back Sunday. It’s just that I’ll be out for three days.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Brook vs.
Paul Malignaggi (pass), Mike Jones (interesting), or Devon Alexander (pass unless he’s back on track at 147).
Agree. I look forward to seeing him face the WBA holder or maybe Berto next year.
These opponents mentioned are likely for the Froch vs Ward undercard then?
Eddie Hearn said that he wanted to get Brook some US exposure on that card in the after fight interview.
Hearn said that if Brook gets the 12/17 date it won’t be a fight like this, but just a stay-busy sort of thing for an American debut. WBA beltholder is unfortunately Manny Pacquiao so that seems…unlikely for any time next year. Berto next year would be good, or even Zaveck.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Oct 10, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
the guys ranked ahead of kell brook by the WBA in their latest ranking
champ: senchenko
- brad solomon
- jones
- the magic man
- diego chavez
- m’baye
- brook
- devon
I would like to see him vs Zaveck or Jones….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I can see Berto doing much better against Brook than Zaveck, because I think he’d give Brook more of his own medicine in terms of bodywork and maybe even uppercuts.
I don’t think that Zaveck would have much of a chance against Brook; he doesn’t seem imaginative or creative enough to stay long with Brook.
I think Brook takes out Berto
The American’s defence is as useful as a kick in the balls. Brook is far to accurate and far too patient to get hit with too many of Berto’s big punches and will capatailise with his speed of hand.
I’d probably rank him, maybe just below Ortiz in 4th in the WW div.
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Manny is WBO holder is he not?
Senchenko (couldn’t remember his name til i read nickfoxx’s post) has the WBA.
by Matt Mosley on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Senchenko is a fine fellow…. when his name pops up on the HBO list of title holders. Souleymane M’Baye is also the interm champ…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I just want to see him raise his profile and pick one of these disgusting belts up. :)
Eddie Hearn is still being really careful with him, imo, though has stepped him up since he left Frank Warren.
I think Berton would have a handspeed advanatage over Brook and maybe a very slight edge in power, but for overall skills, slickness and defence/reflexes, it’s Brook all day for me.
He has yet to show his full capabilities, imo, and i think he would edge Berto or Ortiz right now. Of course, that’s just my opinion, but i’ve followed him since around 2007 and i have to say i am very confident in that prediction.
by Matt Mosley on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he'd edge Berto
I think he really would show the world how goodhe is and get him out of there. He oozes class
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, i did say “right now”. In 6 months to a year i think i would agree with what you say.
He’s already very goo but he’s learing and progressing all the time, imo.
What I most liked about his performance
Was that he didn’t go rushing in and he didn’t get carried away when he landed. Most boxers from this island are determined to put on a show and get a stoppage and then get picked off themselves. Brook didn’t rush. Picked his shots. Dispayed a great jab. Went downstairs with some real venom. Stepped back.
He thinks his way through fights and I love that.
I see both the arguments about the stoppage. The pole was not throwing back and was getting caught clean and hard all the more often as it went on. And a stoppage was inevitable. But I still would have liked it to go on just slightly more. (Although it was very good for my Pickem that it didn’t tbh)
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
(Although it was very good for my Pickem that it didn’t tbh)
It was bad for mine! I doubled on “over 7 1/2” and the last thing i need is to be losing point if i want to get Top 20 points (that’s the best i can hope for this season).
Yeah, he’s got a bit of all the best Ingle fighters; Naz, Herol Graham, etc, but for anyone to call him a second Naz is not giving him enough credit.
The only thing Naz had over Kell was P4P power (and even then not by much).
Brook is much more well rounded, much better technically and is multi-dimensional, can be aggressive or can counter punch, fight on the inside and the outside.
As you mentioned, i love that jab. he didn’t even jab as good as he can on Saturday, imo.
And the bodypunching is pretty sweet too.
Shrewd pick if you went for “under 7 1/2” considering Jackiwewisz had never been stopped.
I was pretty sure he’d stop him, but i thought it would be between 7-9 rds.
I was thinking it was gunna be an early night where Brook really blasted him out
But he was much more impressive than that in picking him apart.
I also watched the N’dou fight last night and Brook also looked slightly more physically mature too. only a good thing
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And yeah, the i would haver liked to have seen him really put Jackiewisz away, but with someone like him he would probably just keep taking big shots and would have gone down eventually, bu twould have taken much more of an unnecessary beating, and that’s how fighter’s gcan et hurt.
It did seem a bit premature but the ref was closer to the action than we were and there was no reason for him to stop it if he didn’t think it was the right thing to do, considering that jackiewisz really did have no shot at winning.
I didn't hate the stoppage as much as some
Im more of the Steve Smoger school. The boxers are there to fight at the end of the day. But it was clear Brook was a cut above and was not going to let his man in the fight, and he was starting to ship some big shots. Any earlier and it would have been premature
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He oozes class
That’s about as good and as simple a description of Brook as i’ve read.
by Matt Mosley on Oct 11, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah, you’re right. Duh. I mixed up my WB’s, because Brook has been in line for the WBO for a while so I instantly went there.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Oct 10, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That stoppage against Jackiewicz seemed to come out of nowhere. He had just stopped a couple of shots with his gloves, and then suddenly it was over.
Jackiewicz was getting teed off on and his face was getting busted up. I don’t know if you watched the whole fight and i can agree that it was a bit of an early stoppage, but honestly Jackiewicz couldn’t land a shot on Brook, so just went into his shell and was getting slowly and methodically beaten up. He was just trying to survive.
Even though he is known for taking punishment and starting to come on strong as the fight goes, he was doing nothing to suggest that he had any chance of winning.
The ref did him a favour, imo.
by Matt Mosley on Oct 10, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree on the Jackiewicz stoppage but found the stoppage in the Miles vs Mutu fight on the same card deeply weird, also the failure to call a KD against Miles early on. Michael Alexander was the referee.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
the kd of miles was absolutely, positively a punch, not a slip as ruled by Referee Alexander, and then when Mutu was kd’d, Mutu really looked perfectly good to go and the ref just couldn’t be bothered—Miles is here for his win, and he’s getting it, seemed like.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Good fight other than that
I swear they were swinging from the hills (My mates that came round to watch the card were getting a little dis-interested so it might have been a different fight)
by Sweet science on Oct 11, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree. Jackiewicz hadn’t landed a good in the entire fight. It was one-sided to the point that it was not even remotely competitive. The ref did everybody a favour. Jackiewicz is not even known for being a puncher, not that the ref should really consider that when a contest is so one-sided.
I also enjoyed the Johnny Nelson bit where he went on about how Brook had beaten a ‘world class’ opponent, as last week he was refusing to admit that the p4p number 3 was any good!
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
by Eoin_not_ian on Oct 10, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Rafal wasn’t landing F-all and the fight was pretty dull. It was an early stoppage, but whatever. I don’t feel like I was missing anything.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Oct 10, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Still struggling to buy Brook as a legit prospect
Hes been pro for what, 7yrs, and he still isnt past domestic level and Polish non-contenders. Yet Sky are hyping like this guy is prime RJJ.
by Shitali Klitschko on Oct 10, 2011 3:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yes he has been a pro for 7 years, but he also turned pro at 18 and had problems outside of the ring while he was still maturing.
He blew away all his domestic comp by KO or TKO and Jackiewicz was not a “Polish non-contender”. He had beaten Jan Zaveck and lost a close decision to him in the rematch. Zaveck then went on to give Berto a good fight. Consider how much easier Brook dealt with Jackiewicz than Zaveck did.
Lovemore N’Dou was neither domestic level nor a non-contender either. he had fought Saul Alvarez in his previous fight and has been in with one world class fighter after another.
Imo, Brook gave him more of a beating than Alvarez did.
Brook was stalling and/or being held back but he is making the push now with Matchroom and is still only 25, not even in his peak years yet.
You are entitled to your opinion and yes, Sky do overhype all their big prospects, but please get the facts right if you are going to criticize the guy.
He might be past prospect stage in terms of age, but not in level of competition. Fair enough he isnt the only guy wrapped in cotton wool bt talking about a Malinaggi fight is a disgrace and isnt proving anything. I sort of hold him in the same regard as Bute, in that its obvious theres talent there bt its hard to gauge how much because the opposition is so sub-standard.
by Shitali Klitschko on Oct 10, 2011 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with what you say about Malignaggi being a pretty ridiculous choice of opponnent and i balked when Ryan Rhodes even mentioned his name. To me, Mike Jones would be the ideal next step.
I know what you mean about him being unproven and i agree. I don’t even hold him in as high a regard as Bute and i’m a fan of Brook.
I just think there is big potential there but now is the time that he’s got to start making big moves and proving himself.
he’s just treading water at the moment, imo, and fighting Paulie would be a big disappointment to me.
Considering most fighters at his weight turn pro in their early 20’s, the way i see it Brook has just had those extra years to learn his craft and has that extra experience that most other fighters his age don’t have.
I see it as a plus. Like is said he’s just approaching his best years and that is why they are giving him the push now. I also think he made the right move going to Matchroom.
He's now one of the top dogs at matchroom
And will be the top dog in two years once Froch has gone past his sell by date. With Warren he was bit-part. Never allowed to flourish
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree
especially with the last sentence.
That’s a major part of why he has been held back, imo.
Also, i really agree with what Froch and co. were saying on Saturday.
He’s that good and talented that until he gets a belt and a higher profile he’s going to be avoided because all the top dogs are gonna see him as too big a risk for too little reward.
That’s why they are getting him stateside asap and making the moves that they need to.
He’s in a good position as he is though, with his rankings, etc. He just needs to keep winning and Eddie should take care of the rest, hopefully.
Really like Hearn
Just seems like a top bloke.
Lets be honest. We know the result if he faces Paulie. Any hardcore boxing fan would. But Paulie definatley has name value (over here and in the states) and can still sell a fight. So I would probably make that fight if he is to box over the pond on the Froch undercard.
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s that good and talented that until he gets a belt and a higher profile he’s going to be avoided because all the top dogs are gonna see him as too big a risk for too little reward.
Excactly why a Khan fight won’t happen untill he goes to the states so all the more important and refreshing that that seems to be happening
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You are going to be more familiar with Kell Brook than I am (I’ve only seen his last 2 fights), but I think Brook is more of the Andre Berto level moreso than the Mike Jones level. What do you think?
Yes, i’d agree Sam. I think that;s a fair assumption. I see him beating Jones and being on alevel playing field with the likes of Berto and Ortiz. Of course, he has to prove that and if he can beat those sort of guys, maybe move up to the likes of Khan, then Mayweather.
He’s got a lot of work to do yet though.
Kenny Anderson
I wish theyd stop billing him as ‘the guy who NEARLY KO’d Groves’. Its really not as impressive as they intend it to be and it kinda sells him short.
by Shitali Klitschko on Oct 10, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
But other than that
He would be completley unknown. I hadn’t heard of him till then. It’s what put him on the map.
by Sweet science on Oct 10, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Tye Fields still fighting ugh..
Why dont we ever see the headline "Psychic
wins lottery" in the newspapers?
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