Boxing Results for Oct. 29-30: Marquez Destroys Concepcion in Rematch, Calderon Barely Wins in Puerto Rico
by Scott Christ on Oct 30, 2011 6:00 PM EDT
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Results: Hernan "Tyson" Marquez KO-1 Luis Concepcion.
Analysis: Well, this one didn't live up to the first fight, but it did have action. Hernan Marquez has finally cemented his status as one of the world's best flyweights, and not just a fluke guy who got a stoppage win in a great brawl against Concepcion earlier this year. Marquez (32-2, 25 KO) made the second defense of his WBA flyweight title with this win, hammering Concepcion (23-3, 18 KO) with gusto in the opening frame, dropping him three times before the referee stopped it. He's the real deal, and when you think back to the way Nonito Donaire dicked around trying to box southpaw against him in 2010, it's kind of amazing. My kingdom for a Pongsaklek Wonjongkam vs Hernan Marquez fight -- I think that might be something of a flyweight Calderon vs Segura.
Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
Results: Ivan Calderon SD-10 Felipe Rivas, Wilfredo Vazquez Jr TKO-3 Roberto Carlos Leyva.
Analysis: This was supposed to be Calderon against 105-pound titlist Raul Garcia, but then Garcia went and lost his 105-pound title to Moises Fuentes on August 27 in a great fight, so Calderon instead went with Felipe Rivas. This fight kind of reminds me of Israel Vazquez vs Angel Priolo a couple years back, except Calderon's eyeball doesn't look like it's made of candy. Calderon (35-2-1, 6 KO) is 36 years old and is, quite frankly, a shell of the fighter he was at his peak. It's one thing to get overpowered at 108 by Giovani Segura, one of the hardest punchers, pound-for-pound, in the sport. It's quite another to struggle with Rivas (9-10-1, 4 KO). I think it's time that the "Iron Boy" consider hanging it up. If he shoots for higher glory at 105, he's just going to lose. He's no longer slick enough to beat the top fighters at the weight. The other fight is, obviously, a comeback win for Vazquez (21-1-1, 18 KO) after his May defeat at the hands of Jorge Arce. Vazquez still wants a rematch with Arce, and I think they should do it. I have a lot more legit interesting in Arce vs Vazquez II than I do Donaire vs Arce, but I couldn't blame Jorge for going for more money and more glory against Nonito.
Cagliari, Italy
Results: Moruti Mthalane TKO-7 Andrea Sarritzu.
Analysis: Mthalane improves to 28-2 (19) and retains his IBF flyweight title with a trouncing of Sarritzu (32-5-4, 12 KO), whose corner threw in the towel.
Thackerville, Oklahoma
Results: Vanes Martirosyan UD-10 Richard Gutierrez, Casey Ramos UD-8 Joselito Collado.
Analysis: Hey, another win for Martirosyan (31-0, 19 KO), who took this thriller on scores of 100-90, 100-90, and 99-91. Gutierrez (26-8-1, 16 KO) hasn't been good in years, and Martirosyan really, really needs to step it up soon. He's trained by Freddie Roach, he's promoted by Top Rank. He has connections. It's getting harder and harder to think that everyone is avoiding him or ignoring him. Ramos (15-0, 4 KO) wins the battle of light-punching prospects over Collado (12-1, 3 KO) on scores of 78-73, 78-74, and 77-74.
Colima, Mexico
Results: Takalani Ndlovu SD-12 Giovanni Caro.
Analysis: Ndlovu (33-6, 18 KO) retains his IBF super bantamweight title despite hitting the canvas in round one. If the South African was looking for an easy first defense of the belt he won from Steve Molitor in March, he didn't find it against the determined Caro (22-10-4, 17 KO), a 27-year-old non-contender who really shouldn't have been given a title shot at all, since he lost his last fight and all.
Atlantic City, New Jersey (Full Recap)
Results: Brandon Gonzales SD-8 Ossie Duran ... Artemio Reyes UD-8 Javier Molina.
Analysis: Corey Erdman suggested on Twitter that Molina is more Non-Alcoholic Paul Malignaggi than the Paul Malignaggi Lite I called him after the fight in the recap, and he might be right. I watched the main event a second time to get a better feel for it. I still think Duran deserved the nod, and there was just nothing about Gonzales that really impressed me. He looked good in spurts, but that's it.
Salinas, California
Results: Eloy Perez TKO-6 Ira Terry.
Analysis: I'm only surprised that Terry (24-7, 15 KO) lasted as long as he did against Perez (23-0-2, 7 KO). Eloy is no puncher, but Terry has been crumbling for a while now, and this six-round outing was the longest he's lasted in his last five, all of which he's lost, all by stoppage. Perez, 25, will likely find himself in line for some type title shot next year.
Chester, Pennsylvania
Results: Franklin Lawrence TKO-2 Raymond Ochieng.
Analysis: I'm not saying that the 36-year-old Lawrence (17-2-2, 12 KO) is beating the most notable competition, but he seems like someone that could emerge as a potentially dangerous contender. He's probably better than Ray Austin, anyway. He's knocking guys out, fighting frequently, and has said he'd like to fight a Klitschko. Of course, everyone would like to fight a Klitschko.
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Do you think we'll get to see Pongsaklet Wongjomkam v. Hernan Marquez?
It’s a great fight. I wonder if showtime or even HBO would do it? Too small?
If it happens
It happens in Thailand. But I doubt it does. Pong has never shown any interest in unifying, and Marquez will never be his mandatory.
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by Brickhaus on Oct 31, 2011 3:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was so happy for Hernan Marquez, he is a very good fighter, that I woke up at 6 in the mourning anticipating to watch the rematch. Conception came out thinking all offense again and forgetting about defense and payed for it. Marquez is getting better and better and could end up upsetting Wongjomkam if the fight is not in Thailand of course. I think Donaire was just way too massive for Marquez and Mepranum was just too slick. Which could be the reason why Wongjomkam could be too good for Marquez.
by 36_chambers_ofdeatH on Oct 30, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
Despite what pple think.. size does matter… there’s a reason JMM was ineffective agst Floyd, even though Floyd was the “faster guy”, or Hernan Marquez was ineffective agst Nonito… size does matter even if you give the “well even if they were the same size they would have won anyway” mentality… b/c if they were the same size, the punches that the bigger fighter would mock would actually hurt… JMM hit Floyd with quite a few clean punches which did nothing, and we see Hernan Marquez just weighing in 3 lbs lighter made him a much greater force in that weight category. Just sayin… otherwise put Floyd with other “top 10” p4pers like Bhop, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, or Wladmir Klit… Andre Ward could beat Floyd now and brag he beat the “2nd p4p” fighter in the world… the same way Floyd did with JMM. Boxing is weird…
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Hernan Marquez just weighing in 3 lbs lighter made him a much greater force in that weight category.
I really don’t think it’s the three pounds in this case. I believe he’d be effective at 115 now, too. Just not against Nonito Donaire. Luis Concepcion is a pretty good fighter, but he’s ten light years behind Nonito Donaire. There’s nobody at 112/115 with Donaire’s talent.
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by Scott Christ on Oct 31, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and not saying that Donaire’s size didn’t play a role in that Donaire vs Marquez fight. It did. It was obvious. Two different thoughts I had there.
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by Scott Christ on Oct 31, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Not aimed at you Scott, just a point in general:
I understand this talk about Donaire being bigger than all his opponents but i mean, come on, some are still saying that now when he’s up at bantamweight (the Narvaez fight deserved criticism admittedly) and has moved up two divisions.
Sure, he might be a natural featherweight but at the end of the day he gets down to the weight limit like any other fighter in the division.
Look at Paul Williams, for example. He was a huge welterweight who looked like a middleweight but then found out he really wasn’t.
Tommy Hearns did the same but he could compete at the higher weight.
Who knows how high Donaire can go but i am sure of one thing; it’s his talent more than anything that wins him his fights so impressively.
Who knows what his best weight class is yet. He may flourish at the higher weights or he may find his limit before he (and we) expect.
It’s not like he towers over his opponnents or anything. He beats them fair and square.
(don’t mention Victor Conte :)
I mean, no way in a million years in my mind does a fighter with Donaire’s abilities ever lose to a guy like Hernan Marquez, all pound for pound, equal size things being taken into consideration.
It’s just obvious that Donaire is the better fighter, and Marquez’ success since losing to Donaire only makes ND look all the better, imo.
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