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Juan Manuel Marquez Accused of Steroid Usage: Pacquiao's Reputation Being Damaged By Excuses He's Not Making

Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez had a great, close fight on Saturday. Apparently, that's too much for some to accept. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

The Philippine Star has run with a story that says there's "a disgruntled former member of Juan Manuel Marquez's team" ready to come forward with evidence or proof of a story that Juan Manuel Marquez used steroids to effectively bulk up to 142 pounds on the scales, and 150 pounds on the unofficial HBO scales, in his closely-contested fight with Manny Pacquiao last Saturday.

This is getting out of hand.

It's the latest in a series of excuses being lobbed around on behalf of Manny Pacquiao, who it needs to be said right now has made no fuss of any of this, and remains a distinguished champion -- something he doesn't need a WBO title belt to prove.

But recall that Team Pacquiao currently has a defamation lawsuit against Floyd Mayweather Jr and others, which once named Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya before a public apology earlier this year from De La Hoya dropped them from the suit. That defamation suit is, in large part, due to Mayweather, his uncle Roger, and his father Floyd Sr, allegedly accusing Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs.

Recall, also, that earlier this year, there was a nonsense "article" posted on a sketchy web site that Shane Mosley and Mayweather legitimized for a brief few moments via their Twitter pages, claiming to be an eyewitness account from a former Pacquiao sparring partner, alleging that Pacquiao used steroids.

That article was bogus, the story was bogus, and Pacquiao fans, friendly media, and supporters jumped all over it to call it bogus. So did we.

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Now, this is not about Manny Pacquiao, or Freddie Roach, or Bob Arum, or Alex Ariza, or Buboy, or Mike Koncz -- this is not about anyone officially associated with Team Pacquiao. They are not spreading any of this, they're not giving credibility to any of it. They're not even talking about it.

But the excuses piling up to "explain" Manny Pacquiao's subpar (by his standards) performance, or to explain Marquez's incredible performance, are becoming worse by the day. It's an alarming level of hysterical fanaticism that isn't helping Manny Pacquiao a bit.

There was Marquez stepping on Pacquiao's foot, which was mind-numbing, given that Pacquiao had also stepped on Marquez's foot in the fight, and the fact that in a lefty-righty matchup, these things happen. There was the "mysterious super drink" in Marquez's corner, which was Pedialyte, legal in Nevada.

We've heard that Manny cramped, that he had an argument with his wife, that he had an argument with Ariza, that Ariza was doing too much in the corner during the fight.

I should credit the Star article enough to say that this is added, and that the author (Joaquin Henson) doesn't outright say that Marquez cheated:

Heredia insisted he did nothing wrong in building up Marquez’ capacity to put up a stiff challenge to Pacquiao. The Nevada State Boxing Commission administered drug tests on both fighters before and after their bout. So far, no positive finding has been announced.

While Heredia has a history of distributing steroids to athletes, there is no evidence showing any hanky-panky in working with Marquez.

But then he ends with this, leaving open the possibility that Marquez cheated, despite zero evidence and nothing better than the Mosley/Mayweather-led rumor from earlier this year to support the idea:

If Marquez was on drugs, it’s more to Pacquiao’s credit that despite the steroids, the Mexican still couldn’t swing the decision to his favor. Pacquiao didn’t only throw more but also landed more shots.

When will this end? When will there be an acceptance that we saw a tough fight on Saturday, and that Manny Pacquiao is, in fact, human, and can be tested or even bested on fight night?

Team Pacquiao has given Marquez credit for fighting a great fight. When will their fans and followers do the same? They're doing a disservice to Manny Pacquiao, and hurting his reputation, whether they mean to or not.

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Arum built him up to be super man and he wasn't...

its a painful hangover that the fans will have to get over, with time hopefully.

by Clove_art on Nov 17, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Manny Pacquiao, for whom I have the utmost respect and affection, has never been my favorite fighter. Insofar as I have a single favorite fighter, it has long been Juan Manuel Marquez. That said, all men are mortal, and all men age, get distracted by success and broadening interests, all men have a bad night sometime. For most of his career, MP built himself up, and has been indeed a superman, in and out of the ring. His performance in this last fight does not define him, his whole career and general demeanor do.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 17, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s never been a superman. But he is a superstar. Saturday didn’t change that. If anything is made Marquez a superstar in his own right.

by tacklerford on Nov 17, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Arum created the perception of Manny being unbeatable...

10-1 favotite for a rival that he hasn’t convincingly beat yet? I think the hype machine had Manny as unbeatable…. Thus the fans saw him as unbeatable. Correction: casual fans.

by Clove_art on Nov 17, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

JMM’s horrible previous performance at this particular weight had, y’know, something to do with the odds getting so outrageous. Even JMM’s biggest fans didn’t seem to believe he could be at his best at 144.

by El Destruyo on Nov 17, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but looking back now,

I think it had nothing to do with the weight. I think we put too much emphasis on speculation. Of course, people say Marquez was this and that when he fought FMJ, but no one said wow Floyd coming off a 2 year layoff looked amazing. smh.

I had a feeling prior to last Saturday night it would be competitive. Especially, since Manny didn’t look all that great against Mosely and he hasn’t KO’d anyone since 2009.

by Clove_art on Nov 17, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn’t a grand larceny, more of a purse snatching (with $10 million in it), but I can’t help feeling the same minor bitterness I felt when I chose Lara in the Pick’em game, having Picked JMM this time. I thought he looked great at the weigh-in, and had faith in him to have the key to Pac, as I saw him have in the past. Floyd weighed 160 fight night, which puts that in another category.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 17, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

FMJ’s weight was never disclosed that night so it could have been 145- 205 for all we now.

What is known is that Floyd walks around 150 on any given day… So I dunno where 160 came from.

by Clove_art on Nov 17, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He supposedly sneaked into Marquez’ home and took an illegal drug from his refrigerator.

Are you fucking kidding me? It’s almost hilarious how stupid this shit is. Joaquin Henson has always been a joke of a writer

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Nov 17, 2011 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

To those who believe this story.

I’m sure there would be some who would believe this story about “a disgruntled former member of Juan Manuel Marquez’s team” who is “ready to come forward with evidence … that Juan Manuel Marquez used steroids.”

If you believe this story, please e-mail me. I have a bridge that I want to sell to you.

by MikeCab on Nov 17, 2011 2:00 AM EST reply actions  

The only legit issue I see is cramps, something reported in camp over two weeks ago…and something that Ariza as the S & C coach should be fully accountable for if true.

Ariza needs to put a lid on it. And thus far, no one from Team Pac has made any idiotic statemnets.
Thank God.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Nov 17, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

When you put a cape on a person and they show their mortality it becomes a hard thing to accept.

by tacklerford on Nov 17, 2011 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Fanboys will be fanboys

"Boxing is like dealing with a ho"
-Bernard Hopkins

by erod on Nov 17, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

marquez has always had to some extent manny’s number in terms of timing and counters. he just has the right style to give pacman problems, period.

i’m f’ing tired of a guy looking more buff (he had a different S&C coach this time around, wasn’t drinking is own piss, whatever) and that means he’s on steroids.

no more than floyd has moved up multiple weight classes since his career started, so has manny.

those floyd and manny have moved up a pretty astounding number of weight classes as compared with marquez.

a disgruntled employee? wow. shocker. must be true!

what a farce.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.

by theworldsoldestsport on Nov 17, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

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