Chavez vs Manfredo Results: JCC Jr Stops Manfredo in Five, Stays Unbeaten
by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2011 12:23 AM EST
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Julio Cesar Chavez Jr stopped Peter Manfredo in the fifth round tonight in Houston, retaining his WBC middleweight title and staying undefeated. After an entertaining first four rounds, Chavez hurt Manfredo, then swarmed in for the kill. Referee Laurence Cole gave Manfredo time to hold, take a knee, or throw back, but it didn't happen, and Cole stepped in at 1:52 to end the fight.
Chavez (44-0-1, 31 KO) dominated the first three rounds for the most part, outboxing and outslugging Manfredo (37-7, 20 KO). But in the fourth, "The Pride of Providence" seemed to decide he would go down swinging if he was going to go down, and engaged Chavez in a brawl. Manfredo performed well in the round, and Chavez was willing to meet him halfway and trade big shots.
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Overall, Chavez appeared to simply be a stronger, better, fresher fighter, and that's no surprise. The win lets him keep his belt and his record, but now the question is bigger: When does he fight someone better?
"I want to fight the best," Chavez said after the fight, via his translator. "Sergio Martinez is a great champ. 'Canelo' would be a great fight for the Mexican public. But it all depends on what my promoter says. I fear no one."
Asked about his own future, as Manfredo had said this week if he didn't win he might retire, Manfredo didn't commit to anything, but did say, "I’m not an HBO fighter, I guess. Every time I step up to HBO, I lose."
As for the stoppage, Manfredo said it was quick in his opinion, "but what are you gonna do? ... I knew what I was up against."
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Stoppage
Some fighters wait too long while ducking and dodging, and I think Manfredo pressed his luck.
He’s also been stopped for the same thing before. He has a habit of this.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Chavez just seems to be lacking something. It’s hard to get very excited about his wins and I’m of the opinion that a fight with Martinez wouldn’t even be competitive.
It wouldn’t be. Martinez would have to chop him down, because he IS a big, strong kid who can take a shot, but he’d dominate.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
yup
Sergio would be in for a full night of work. Not tough work, but work nonetheless. Kinda interesting that it would be a match-up of guys w/o amateur backgrounds (I think that’s true). Chavez has more guts than boxing and athleticism. Sergio has a full helping of all of it.
by Sentimental on Nov 20, 2011 1:00 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I dunno, it seems more competitive now than it ever has. Just now I think Chavez could even get into round 5, and if Martinez suddenly gets really old in the ring, I give him a bit of shot.
The Canelo fight would be a big deal too.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 20, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I dont even think Martinez-Chavez Jr is even worth discussing. Total whitewash.
by Chris Celletti on Nov 20, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
Fernando Montiel is having an awful time with Victor Terrazas right now. We’ll have results shortly, fight’s in round 9. Catch the rest on suljos.tv
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Cheers.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 20, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Well he didn’t look with what I saw (10,11,12). It looked like the end for Montiel for me. if you don’t count Donaire wiping him out that is.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 20, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
He fought pretty well, really — Terrazas was just better. Montiel gutted through some bad cuts (his team did a nice job) and put his punches together well. This was more Victor Terrazas’ coming out party than Montiel’s end, IMO.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Surely this puts Rendall Munroe in an even better light, considering that he is one of only two men to stop Terraza?
Not to mention Toshiaki Nishioka who beat Munroe handily.
Of course, it could be partly that Montiel is on the way out.
Also worth noting is that Munroe is moving down to bantamweight to challenge Jamie McDonnell for the European crown.
I know you “are aware” :), i’m just tagging this on.
Good thing Munroe’s moving down. I’d have hated for such a nice man to get whomped by my boy Scott Quigg if Hatton had put that fight together at 122.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Good point.
I suspect Quigg is a big part of the reason for Munroe’s drop in weight.
I also predict that Carl Frampton will lose to Quigg in a really good fight, should it happen, and will move down himself. Frampton looks small for super bantam to me.
+1
Quigg is one of my favouroute fighters. I think he largly domiantes Frampton
by Sweet science on Nov 20, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll take your judgement on that, Scott. I didn’t see enough to make a judgement. All I could do was score the bout on the ‘Lederman facial swelling comparison criteria’, on which case it looked liked Montiel lost clearly.
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by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 20, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
JCC Jr Impresses
I personally thought JCC Jr looked the best he has yet. Utilized his jab well, showed more lateral movement than he usually has. And let’s face it, the guy can dish out punishment as well as take it. I agree with everyone else here that Martinez would win a matchup with Chavez Jr, as he is simply more experienced and a better fighter at this stage. But let’s not forget that Chavez is still growing and developing. I think a lot of people venture to the extremes when talking about him, whether it’s the Mexican superfans calling Chavez one of the top five fighters in boxing today (undoubtedly with images of Chavez Sr still dancing through their heads), or the naysayers who think that Chavez Jr is mostly talk and benefits solely from his father’s legacy and connections.
It’s good to take the middle ground here—while Chavez is surely still developing as a fighter and a young star (and has probably been the recipient of a few hometown or biased decisions), I think it’s also important to recognize what he has done so far in his career. The guy is undefeated, has shown power, an inclination to mix it up in the trenches, and—showed for the first time tonight (at least on prime time TV)—a growing ability to use that reach of his and box his opponent wisely, just as much as bang away. And let’s not forget that he inarguably has the financial and popular support to make him one of the sport’s rising stars. I do think he would lose to Martinez if that were to be the next matchup, but I have to think that the Chavez camp is smarter than throwing their man in against a champion NOW who would, as Scott said, dominate the young man at this stage in his career. But I have to think that it’s on the horizon, maybe in a year or so. In the meantime, I’d love to see Canelo get in the mix. He’s definitely the safer choice for the Chavez camp.
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by HandsOfStone98 on Nov 20, 2011 1:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
He’s legitimately gotten better under Roach’s care, but it’s better against the likes of Duddy, Manfredo, Lyell, and Zbik, and I still think Zbik had a great argument for winning that fight in June.
The key to not hating Chavez is to not take him seriously and just enjoy his fights. He is, if nothing else, a Fun TV Fighter who gets all the political breaks, and while the latter is annoying, at least he’s not boring.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
He isn’t out there putting crappy fights…. he lets his hands go, gives it his all when he is in the ring, and that is all I ask… Unlike some other fighters who always put up crappy fights( Bradley, Dawson, and etc), he actually brings an audience, make a fight watchable, and in my opinion deserves the paydays he gets.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
no
the Manfredo fight only makes Chavez Jr look worse. Manfredo came out weak, yet somehow had JCCJ wobbly the last 2 minutes of the 4th round. JCCJ has a seriously weak chin, and it appears some conditioning problems. Someone like Alverez or Martinez would destroy JCCJ, which is why those fights will never happen.
He's on the way for sure, but
Theres still a lot of smoke and mirrors in his record. He’s probably already better than I thought he’d ever be though.
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