Can Kermit Cintron Shut Down the Canelo Hype Machine?
Lee Payton takes a look at the challenges that Kermit Cintron might pose for Saul Alvarez in tonight's junior-middleweight clash.
By now we know everything there is to know about Kermit Cintron, the boxer, and it's not all good. We've seen him fold under pressure on more than once occasion, so why would anyone believe that he could pull off a huge upset tonight in Mexico? Frankly, it seems like he is getting this opportunity because the danger is long gone.
Saul Alvarez clearly has everything going for him, but I don't consider this to be the sure thing his handlers are hoping for. If they picked Cintron because they figured he provides an opportunity for their client to shine on HBO, they may have made a mistake.
I don't really blame them, as it is easy to write off the Puerto Rican-American at this point. In his last fight he looked skinny, weak and powerless in winning an uninspiring decision over Antwone Smith, a fighter he should have been able to have his way with. The fight before that was supposed to kick off a new promotional contract with Top Rank, but he lost on the cards to tricky contender Carlos Molina, who thwarted him with some old school boxing craft.
In Cintron's defense, he hadn't fought in over a year when he laced 'em up for Molina, and he came in under 150 lbs for both of his last two fights. While he might have thought he had a chance at the Manny Pacquiao sweepstakes by moving back down towards the welterweight limit, trying to boil down that low at this stage of his career likely did more harm than good.
This is a guy who came into the ring as a light heavy for his win over Alfredo Angulo. He is at least a full-sized jr middleweight now, and I like the fact that he came in at the limit for this fight. If he's 100% of whatever is left physically, he should come into the ring in the high 160s, which is what his opponent usually comes in at. People grow over the years and trying to shrink back down seemed to sap his strength and explosiveness. In short, I believe his recent form has been a bit of a mirage. But would he be getting this chance if he looked good last time out? I doubt it.
Even if you consider Cintron to be past his prime (and there is plenty of evidence to support that) he is still the best fighter Canelo has ever been in against, yet you would never know it if you went by the betting odds. Alvarez, facing his most dangerous opponent, is favored by 10-1 according to some bookies. Personally, I don't think the young man's talent or skills justify those odds. They may be right in the end though because the favorite has major advantages in categories that have nothing to do with fighting. Does anyone think Cintron is going to get the decision if the fight is at all close? He needs a knock out. At least he seems to realize it.
So what kind of shot does he have? It's almost impossible to back Kermit these days, but I think he can at least force people to take a more realistic look at what Canelo can actually do in there.
Stylistically, this doesn't look like a walk in the park for the Mexican youngster. Alvarez, despite being built like a pressure fighter, spends most of his time on the outside looking for spots to counter with explosive power combinations. He fancies himself a boxer/counter puncher and it has worked thus far, but how effective will that style be against a taller, rangier fighter who is in no hurry? It sure doesn't sound like a recipe for an exciting fight or a showcase.
I'm interested to see if they will be arrogant enough to experiment with the shoulder roll defense Canelo tried to make work against Alfonso Gomez. I would advise against it, as it is a style developed to take advantage of aggressive fighters. If anything, Alvarez should be the one pressing, as he does his best work at mid-range or closer, but that's not really his thing, is it?
When I look at the young man, I see a fighter with no identity, and that is something that needs to be figured out before he gets too close to the top. Right now, he's a guy who looks like he should be bobbing, weaving and letting his offense win fights. Instead, he gives you flashes of potential and a lot of messing around on the outside, trying to be cute. Maybe the reality is that he just doesn't like getting hit back. Who knows how he will respond if he gets whacked clean by a guy who can swat a little? There are too many unanswered questions for me to be certain that he is just going to dominate a decent veteran who knows first hand how cruel, difficult and unfair this sport is.
The hype machine doesn't mention a fighter's flaws, but do not let that fool you into thinking they don't exist. Canelo is pretty robotic in his movements, lacks consistent head movement and inches around the ring on stiff legs. When was the last time you saw him get low or bend his knees? It just seems like he is content to fight in a style that is not suited for his body because, so far, he hasn't been touched up much. So why change anything?
I think trying to beat a guy like Cintron from the outside is the wrong way to go about business, so there will come a time when the young fighter has to make a choice, and that's when we'll find out what he's made of. Will he stick his nose in there, or will he do what he has been doing with the expectation that the judges will be on his side?
I'm looking forward to finding out the answer.
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I like this article and agree on the fact that Cintron should do better at 154. However, unless he turns up as a totally different fighter than the Molina fight, then I am still going to give an emphatic ‘no’.
I would really love Cintron to prove me wrong and be competitive for at least 4 rounds.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
This is basically where I am on Canelo. He shows flashes of brilliance and he’s pretty poised for a guy so young, but he’ll need to impress against better competition before I start flipping out too much.
Thing is, I don’t think Kermit is the answer to the Canelo hype machine. I just don’t see him being able to keep Canelo off of him and his chin ain’t the best.
I can't pick Kermit
but hopefully he gives Canelo something to think about in there, and I think he is capable of that.
If Canelo presses, he can have a lot of success, but I think he sees it as quite risky. We’ll see.
I have no doubt Cintron is stronger at 154 than 149 and change.
Karma
for what Canelo (allegedly) did to Archie Solis??
Great analysis. I don’t think this fight will be as easy for Canelo as people are making it out to be. Keep in mind Canelo wasn’t exactly spectacular against Matthew Hatton. I think Alvarez will win a controversial split decision.
Keep in mind Canelo wasn’t exactly spectacular against Matthew Hatton.
He won every round and landed 47% of his punches. How good does he have to be?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 26, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Stoppage?
Or is that too much to ask against the #22 welterweight in the world, even though you weighed in to fight against him at 151.5?
Canelo’s too slow for welter and too small and not powerful enough for junior middle or middle. He also lacks a lot of polish despite having been a pro from, what, 16?
The guy is waiting to be exposed. The first time they step him up, he’s getting shown for what he is.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
Show be tell. - Ann Wolfe
by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 26, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Guess he is still waiting, Kid
"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist." --Ayn Rand
In boxing, that's the ultimate "Damning with faint praise."
Pile up the damage. Close his eyes. Step on the gas. Be the superstar.
Or not. Either way is fine with me.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
Show be tell. - Ann Wolfe
by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 27, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
But you have to give the guy credit for getting the job done, and he is no clown in there
like Broner with that combing of his hair and shaving routine. Guy comes across as challenged.
Canelo is all about business. Just doing his job. Just winning. 39-0-1
"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist." --Ayn Rand
he is no clown in there
Floyd will make him look like a clown. Maravilla will make him look like a clown. Frankly, JMM would make him look like a clown.
The clown is in the opposition. If they’re going to give him a KO the first time he does anything notable against Alfonso Gomez in order to save his marketability, what does that tell you about what he would do against real opposition?
Tell you what. Don’t put him in against Kirkland. I insist. Put him in against the ghost of what’s left of Angulo. See how that goes.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
Show be tell. - Ann Wolfe
by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 27, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Or not. Either way is fine with me.
I don’t think this is true, given your apparently personal issue with Alvarez and his career.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 29, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Kermit has been unreliable vs a level that Canelo hasn't gone near yet
Standing straight up on the outside vs a taller, longer fighter is not smart, but that’s how Canelo fights. He should force Kermit on his heels. We know he doesn’t like pressure, but Alvarez doesn’t do pressure, so I think it will be interesting. The style matchup is not a bad one for Cintron. This is not Tall Paul or plaster fists bearing down on him, so we’ll see.
Lee, you are still trying to pump up Cintron for this fight huh lol. Well, good for you. I would be pretty happy if Cintron can win this one, I’m just not sure it’s plausible. But good article representing the other side of the equation as otherwise it’s pretty much 100% on here in favor of a Canelo whitewash (me included lol).
Nice win for Canelo but he still needs to shorten up that hook. His defense looked better to me as well. I was very impressed with the power of his right hand shots. He is very heavy handed.
Cintron was totally shot after taking those body punches. Something was very strange about him tonight. After the third round, he had no idea where he was. I did not like the way he looked in there. Scary.
39-0-1. The Canelo hype/machine/steamroller—or whatever it is—moves forward and a fight with Chavez Junior down the road becomes even more likely. However, a Cotto-Margo winner would make some real $$$$ sense as well. The options are broadening for both fighters and I think either one could square up nicely with Cotto or Margo at his juncture.
"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist." --Ayn Rand
good post
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Thanks, bro
"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist." --Ayn Rand

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