Devon Alexander and Marcos Maidana Match Is Almost Done
by Waldo Rastel on Nov 28, 2011 10:30 PM EST
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According to Ryan Burton of Boxing Scene, Devon Alexander and Marcos Maidana have agreed to get it on. This fight would not take place at junior welterweight, where both combatants have collected trinkets, but at the welterweight limit of 147. For those who do not know, Alexander left Don King and signed a promotional contract with Golden Boy in September. Since both fighters are now under the Golden Boy banner, I would assume that this fight could get done easily. It seems that Golden Boy is targeting either January or February and both HBO and Showtime have shown interest in airing this fight.
I think this is an interesting fight for both fighters, especially in light of each fighter's last three fights. Alexander's last three opponents include Lucas Matthysse, Andriy Kotelnik, and Timothy Bradley. Each of these fighters is a top-level opponent at the 140 lb. limit, and Alexander should be commended for taking on tough competition. However, there is a fairly good argument that Alexander actually lost all of these fights even though the official record only has the one loss to Bradley. In the two other fights, Alexander's high work rate carried him on the cards with his opponents arguably landing the more effective punches in most rounds. In the controversial fights Bad Left Hook scored it 97-92 for Matthysse and 117-111 for Kotelnik, wide scores for the underdogs. It could be argued that Scott simply has something against Alexander, but I do think Alexander truly lost these fights.
Maidana's last three fights have been against Amir Khan, Erik Morales, and a stay-busy fight against Petr Petrov. Maidana lost a close fight with Khan where it looked like Maidana was going to get KO'd early from a vicious body shot, then rallied to almost get a stoppage win in the 10th round. His fight with Morales was pretty close but most thought that Maidana did just enough to win the fight. Morales did reveal a couple of character flaws during this fight. Maidana was made to look slow and one-dimensional. Morales was able to effectively counter Maidana not by being faster but by timing Maidana's punches. Also Maidana's poor footwork was fully on display in this fight.
So this potential fight features two fighters desperate to rebuild their images on the big stage. Can the quick and powerful Alexander dance around Maidana and do some damage to the body? Can the unstoppable force of Maidana that got up from that vicious Khan body shot be able to will himself to victory? How will each fighter deal with the extra weight and will they be able to challenge the big two? All of these questions will hopefully get answered in a great fight. The biggest question is are you excited about this fight? I mean "wHo R u pIcKiNg?!?!?!?!"
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I wonder if the fight will be held in St. Louis since neither is much of a draw anywhere else in the US. Accepting a fight there would probably make the most sense for Maidana economically, but it wouldn’t make much sense if he thinks he can win without a knockout.
Its a Golden Boy fight so maybe LA? I know that Golden Boy would want a fair decision and that might be impossible if the fight is in St. Louis.
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by Waldo Rastel on Nov 28, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose they wouldn’t necessarily be more loyal to one fighter than another, but just like when he fought Khan, Maidana is entering as someone with far less potential at becoming any kind of superstar compared to his opponent. Yes it looks like Alexander simply isn’t very good, but the guy who speaks English and already has huge hometown support would probably make for the more profitable victor.
I'll take Maidana by late KO. I think he'll gut out a tough fight.
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this needs to be the undercard for Ortiz-Berto II...
This fight will be watched by hardcore boxing fans, but by no one else… It will not sell out regardless of where its at. . .Ortiz-Berto 2 is taking place Jan 28 or Feb 11th, around the same time this fight will take place, so it makes sense
Maidana has been in enough good fights to at least be a small draw. Alexander can be marketed more effectively than he has been in the past. They can try to get a decent crowd. No way in hell does it belong on the undercard of Berto – Ortiz II. Maybe a split venue card or something.
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by Waldo Rastel on Nov 28, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
i went to Maidana-Khan in Vegas only 11 months ago and there were only about 5,000 people there…Maidana style is exciting to watch, but people still dont know who he is… since that fight, beating Morales(on a PPV that apparently only me & a handful of people ordered) did nothing to earn him more popularity amongst the non-hardcore fan base. . . Alexander ONCE had potential, but he’s been exposed. . Kotelnik & Matthysse were robbed & Bradley made him quit. . . . he’s lost 3 straight
It could be argued that Scott simply has something against Alexander
Yeah Scott what’s your beef? You are very bias sometimes!
He doesn’t land punches and he lost both of those fights clear as day. But I can’t wait for him to flick six-inch short jabs at Maidana and rack up rounds on the Lederman scorecard.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 29, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
I think compubox was developed by connecting whoser whatsits to Lederman’s head, to see fights like he sees fights…
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by Chris Sarda on Nov 29, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I prediction: Alexander will yell for sure.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
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Where’s my English?
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
He hasn’t been properly taught the Tiger Uppercut chant yet, though. He’ll be something to watch when he does.
by El Destruyo on Nov 29, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Methinks Alexander doesn’t extend his punches (reason: look at his pad work. His trainer always brings the mitts to the gloves so he doesn’t have to), and he only has one drive: circling. He never moves forward or leads or becomes more aggressive. Just circles endlessly. I’ll give this one to “Chino.”
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjFqJYu5GLE Check the mittwork.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
He needs a new trainer, or co-trainer! So does Paul Williams!
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
alexander should prolly keep cunningham on, seeing as he’s served as a father figure to him and all that good stuff, but he needs an upgrade in coaching. he’s got the goods, man, he’s just not using them properly. you cant call yourself the great if you’re yelping and throwing phantom jabs all night.
by The Twillness on Nov 29, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
Man, Maidana leaves a lot to be desired as far as becoming anything great, but when you don’t like a boxer, like I don’t Alexander, it’s a guy like Maidana you want him to fight.
Even if Maidana loses on points, Alexander will at least look bad at the end of the fight and become more exposed as lack of heart kind of fighter he is. I hope this fight happens.
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They both have the tools to beat each other, just matter of which version of each shows up on fight night. Maidana has been more consistent so I’ll go with him.
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by Waldo Rastel on Nov 29, 2011 5:12 AM EST up reply actions
He didn’t look that incredible in his tune up fight in Argentina. Then again he still KO’d the guy in 5.
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by Chris Sarda on Nov 29, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
i would be really, really, really, really, i mean really shocked if maidana doesnt blast alexander out of there at some point. honestly, devon doesnt like pressure. when bradley was flailing away at him with his little arms, akexander just looked lost and, for a lack of a better term, pathetic.imagine if that was maidana swinging on him. alexander was able to keep matthysse from gutting him, but chino a different sort of argentinian monster. itll be fun.
tho honestly, im a little sad devon isnt fighting malinaggi. the build up would’ve been hilarious.
Maidana's got this.
Still upset over that gift Alexander was given last time vs Mathysse.
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Kotelnik
I remember that fight…I didn’t log into BLH until it was over, but I remember thinking that Kotelnik won. I felt crazy the whole fight because the HBO guys were making it seem like Alexander was whooping his ass. BLH reaffirmed what I saw.
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my bias against Alexander is this:
1. He doesn’t land his punches. I mentioned that above. He just does not land. Lederman scores a jab that does not land in both of those fights. He did the same for Paul Williams when he had Williams beating Carlos Quintana, which thankfully the ringside judges got right since Lederman and George Peterson might be the only people on earth who think Williams won that fight.
2. I don’t think he takes full advantage of his talent. He is very talented. I was, in fact, VERY high on Alexander while Don King was wasting his formative years.
3. He absolutely, positively, with no doubt in my mind lost the fights against Kotelnik and Matthysse, and neither were close. Those were worse hometown decisions than anything that’s come out of Germany in a while.
Other than that he really seems like a nice kid and he’s by no means a bad fighter.
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4. I couldn’t agree more with #1 thru #3 lol. I think while some guys look busier when throwing punches, at least they are throwing them towards their opponent. It looks like Alexander is shadowboxing half the time, throwing half-assed attempts at extending his arms with no intention of actually trying to LAND punches. Also, as someone mentioned above, I hate that bullshit yelling when throwing punches. Very amateurish, like a tennis player who grunts and yells.
Also as mentioned above, I was kinda looking forward to a buildup of a Paulie/Devon fight lol. Scott, do you know what happened with that possible matchup or also Maidana/Paulie which was rumored recently if I’m not mistaken?
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