Pacquiao vs Marquez 3: Kellerman, Steward and Lampley Break Down the Fight (Video)
by Scott Christ on Nov 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT
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PrintHere's the HBO Sports team discussing the November 12 pay-per-view main event between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez:
Max Kellerman says that he's heard Marquez isn't training as hard as usual, and calls on some history:
"Marquez, I'm getting reports, has not been taking this fight, or appears not to be training with the same vigor as he has in the past. Pacquiao still looks spectacular. It all adds up to what should be an enormous advantage for Pacquiao. But speaking of psychological incentives for Marquez, it reminds me of The Thrilla in Manila, in a way, where Muhammad Ali was told, 'Don't worry about Joe Frazier. He's done.' Ali didn't train seriously. He heard Frazier wasn't training seriously, either. And sometime during that brutal fight, Ali leans over to Frazier and says, 'I heard you were all finished, Joe.' And as Frazier digs in for another left hook, he says, 'They lied to ya, champ. They lied.''
His colleague, Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward, still believes that the weight will hurt Marquez in the fight, and that he should just come in light:
"I think (the weight) reduces his chances. When he was preparing for his last fight (Michael Katsidis, Nov. 2010) and we interviewed him, he was fighting at 135. He had told us that he was 132 pounds about a week or so before the fight. So at best he's not even really a full lightweight, as far as I'm concerned, he's just between lightweight and junior lightweight. I think 144 pounds will not work too good for him. His frame is not good for that. I think his best weight should come in about 135, 136, regardless what the contract is."
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I’m really not seeing this as anything like the first two fights and don’t think it will be all that competitive.
The weight rise and wear and tear on Marquez are the obvious differences.
It could be competitive early on but i see Manny taking over and starting to dominate.
I think he either stops him around RD 10 or wins clearly on points.
Under Trained?
Who has told Kellerman that Marquez is not training as hard? It would shock me if Marquez were to under train for the biggest fight of his life. Unless, of course, he is referring to Marquez no longer drinking his own urine. Then his source would be Liev Schreiber.
Yeah, if Max heard Marquez isn't training hard that should be a bombshell
Rather than bringing to mind Ali v. Frazier III it brings to mind Jones v. Ruiz in which Jones realized he was going to be taking heavy damage and wanted to reduce sparring load to keep his body fresh.
There isn’t a whole lot Marquez needs to learn about fighting in sparring at this point in his career. I think he realizes that he needs to watch his strength and conditioning and work on speed and accuracy with mittwork.
I wonder if some people interpret Marquez is not training as hard simply because he doesn’t have to dry himself out at all to make weight. You still train hard just don’t have to be as crazy about it in terms of dehdrating yourself.
As far as i’m aware you would only have to work to really shed the last few pounds in the last week of the fight. In training camp you would be anywhere between a few pounds and 10lbs over the weight.
Nowadays dehydrating is not advised and is usually avoided when you have professional nutritionists, etc, on board.
Certainly is up until very close to the fight anyway, if dehydrating is absolutely necessary.
I know the HBO commentators get a lot of slack but...
you have to at least give them credit for emphasizing Marquez’s weight disadvantage and describing the fight as relatively one-sided, instead of focusing on trying to sell the fight.
If anything I think they often undersell fights. And I’m not looking forward to them potentially whining throughout another entire undercard, even if it turns out a fight isn’t so bad. This has happened before.
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